I'll give you guys some feedback based on what I experienced in russia

[missAmeno]

Few days after I arrived in UK (not knowing word in english) I manage to end up in some part of London that I had no idea where I was. My bag was stolen and I had no penny in my pockets. I managed to find closest police station and have been trying to explain police officer on duty what happened. It was late evening and Bank Holiday. No one in police station spoke either Russian or Italian so I have no clue how much they understood of what I have been trying to tell. Guy drawn on paper how I can get to closest underground station and gave a note of £20 from his wallet (that I can buy ticket and safely get back to place I was staying at). I didnt want to accept but he insisted.
Sometimes we meet nice people, it happens 

[Spoon]

Few days after I arived in UK (not knowing word in english) I manage to end up in some part of London that I had no idea where I was. My bag was stolen and I had no penny in my pockets. I managed to find closest police station and have been trying to explain police officer on duty what happened. It was late evening and Bank Holiday. No one in police station spoke either Russian or Italian so I have no clue how much they understood of what I have been trying to tell. Guy drawn on paper how I can get to closest underground station and gave a note of £20 from his wallet (that I can buy ticket and safely get back to place I was staying at). I didnt want to exept but he insisted.
Sometimes we meet nice people, it happens 

Police officer vs Thief Taxi driver

Of course I would expect nothing less from Her Majesty's Constabulary

[AmericanBoy]

^^^ my future wife.. I'm still working on the ring =PP   [ edit, not you spoon... Miss Ameno ]

You guys think I'm full of shit with the girls interested in me. Here's another conversation with that girl. THis girl had been with her boyfriend for 3 years. She was one of the ones I posted a picture of....

[Daveman]

^^^ my future wife.. I'm still working on the ring =PP

Now it's obvious you're not telling the truth.. Spoon is already married...

You guys think I'm full of shit with the girls interested in me. Here's another conversation with that girl. THis girl had been with her boyfriend for 3 years. She was one of the ones I posted a picture of....

...

Rather than worry as to whether or not everyone believes you... what are some (summary) of the overall conclusions you have drawn about Russian and her daughters?

[AmericanBoy]

Police officer vs Thief Taxi driver

Of course I would expect nothing less from Her Majesty's Constabulary

her point is you can meet nice people. Again you guys try to look for anything to disprove everything that is written. I rode taxi's every day, twice a day, for 3 months straight, and it only happened 3 times.

[missAmeno]

^^^ my future wife.. I'm still working on the ring =PP   [ edit, not you spoon... Miss Ameno ]

AB, darling, as I said you have few weeks to work on ring  and about wedding we talk after ring   



On the serious note AB you dont have to prove anyone anything.

[mendeleyev]

AB, Tyumen is quite a jump from Moscow, but you didn't travel thru Russia? How did you get into the country? I'm interested in what you saw in travels and what you thought...

[Spoon]

her point is you can meet nice people. Again you guys try to look for anything to disprove everything that is written. I rode taxi's every day, twice a day, for 3 months straight, and it only happened 3 times.

Sorry AB, just yanking your chain Can't say I had much use for taxi drivers in Moscow or St Pete, I followed good advice though when we did use one.....and let my Wife do the negotiating.

Funny how the driver kept winking in the mirror and saying...'you Hugh Jackman? No?' still.....no discount.

[tfcrew]

It's not truth in question here.
It's tone.

Russian girls seem to not have very much loyalty.
 
 

A general statement. Generalizations generally tend to be wrong.
Why not grow up?
Seek loyalty and it will be found.
Best of luck there

Karl
 

 

[AmericanBoy]

Now it's obvious you're not telling the truth.. Spoon is already married...



Rather than worry as to whether or not everyone believes you... what are some (summary) of the overall conclusions you have drawn about Russian and her daughters?

I already said it in the beginning. The russian women are great, minus a few things!

-Extremely beautiful, love to look good wherever the go. When I hit moscow airport it was likea  different planet. All I could here was " click click click" from the high heals. Even girls who shouldn't be all dolled up tried. Which is good.
-caring
-good house wives
-Hard workers
-thoughtful
-VERY jealous
-Very sexual
-Brash at times
-Russian girls seem to be much much stronger than american girls, mentally. Probably because they have such a difficult life and russian guys don't always treat them well. That could be a flaw for some of you guys too, if you're too nice. The last girl I was with told me if I wasn't so mean to her she wouldn't like me so much
- Very stubborn

I think their culture and way of life is much different than ours.. I think finding a young 18-20 year old girl would be ideal. She hasn't really had the chance to start life yet and can easily adapt to an American life. If any of you are worried about age a good gap doesn't seem to be an issue. I was with the 18 year old and I was 28. She asked my age and I knew she was young so instead of asnwering I asked her the same question. She said 17 and I told her she was just a baby and her and her friends said no no no its normal for Russia. The main thing was the cheating, it seemed to be the norm there. Girls with husbands and kids, girls that had seriously relationships. None of that seemed to matter.

[LAman]

I don't think he was searching for a bride, and this thread does fit in the description of the "Experienced" section.

Experienced or Experiences

[AmericanBoy]

AB, Tyumen is quite a jump from Moscow, but you didn't travel thru Russia? How did you get into the country? I'm interested in what you saw in travels and what you thought...

I meant I didn't do traveling as a tourist. I went straight to where I needed to go. I even stayed in the airport at moscow during my 17 hour layover. When my plane arrived in tyument, it was 4am and I went straight to the hospital. I actually have a video of Russia driving through the streets when I first go there. I'll see if I can find it

[AmericanBoy]

It's not truth in question here.
It's tone.
 A general statement. Generalizations generally tend to be wrong.
Why not grow up?
Seek loyalty and it will be found.
Best of luck there

Karl

think how you want, but it truth that is in question here. Almost everything I've said is deemed to be a lie & I feel my generalization is extremely valid and I've explained why.. Maybe I met a bad batch of people while I was there,  who knows but it's what I saw non-stop

[Boethius]

It's not truth in question here.
It's tone.
 A general statement. Generalizations generally tend to be wrong.
Seek loyalty and it will be found.
Best of luck there

Karl

I agree with all of that.

[Boethius]

AB, it is a generalization.  Not all RW are like the ones you were with.

If you'd been "hanging" with a different type of crowd, your experiences would've been different.

[AmericanBoy]

That's what you guys don't seem to understand. I met people from ALL over russia and saw it with almost everyone. I was in 800 bed facility and probably saw 3 different waves of people roll through and these people travel from all over russia and the world for treatment. I'd say at most 10% were natives from that town.

[Boethius]

Yes, of course, a young American knowing no Russian will be able to tease all those taxi drivers in Russia who will then decide they don't really need money for gas so they will refuse all payment....

It's just an example, not meant to be taken as the literal truth in AB's situation.  My point was, these things to happen.  If AB wishes, he can post.  Plus, he was with a Russian, so should've been able to converse.

Throughout my life, I've had many people do many kind things for me, often going out of their ways to do so.  I have tried to return the favour. 

Have you never done this?  Bought a beggar a cup of coffee, or filled someone's gas tank, or given someone short of money in a grocery line enough change to complete their purchase?

[Misha]

Anything can happen, but are they likely to happen, that is another question   

[Eduard]

AB, it is a generalization.  Not all RW are like the ones you were with.

If you'd been "hanging" with a different type of crowd, your experiences would've been different.

+1

[AmericanBoy]

Anything can happen, but are they likely to happen, that is another question 

& if it didn't happen to you then it doesn't happen..... correct? You're too funny, guy. You hang onto some of the dumbest details. I asked that girl why she was in awe when she met me but she got offline.

 Honestly,  I know it doesn't happen in russia often. I actually told 3 people and they were shocked too

Alina who you read above

Alex. He joked and said one of 2 things, either he was drunk and forgot to ask or I wa drunk and don't remember correctly

Lena- Said the boy couldn't have been Russian.

The fair was only 80 rubles. The hospital was only a 5 minute drive from my house and I guess they were happy to meet an american.

[Boethius]

Anything can happen, but are they likely to happen, that is another question   

Whether something is "likely" to happen is irrelevant.  I have had many things that were very unlikely to happen actually happen to me in my life,  My husband has even more such occurrences.  I posted several, but am editing them out, but for one.

My husband was in the Soviet military, and was on board a ship that had a stand off with an American ship.  They were so close together, they could yell at each other.  Three years later, he was sitting at Hydropark in Kyiv, when an American Ukrainian came up and asked "Guys, do you have any water?"  My husband recognized him from that ship (he'd been yelling at them in Ukrainian).  He asked him about it to confirm, and sure enough, same guy.  Now, how likely was it that an American from Cleveland would meet a Soviet in Kyiv that he'd had an encounter with in European waters three years earlier?   If I read that in a book, I'd view it as implausible fiction.

[AmericanBoy]

There was actually a discussion recently about this issue. A Russian guy form American was trying to figure out how to make some girl interested in him. I told him don't do it. He thought he could win her with money and the American life. I told him the same stuff that I'm saying here and he was defending these girls like he knew them. We went back and forth then russians began to chime in.. The discussion was pretty short but here are a couple views from natives.

and let me clarify really quickly. There are good and bad everywhere and people cheat everywhere. I'm not saying it's impossible to find a good russian girl or every russian girl is cheater, and I never did say that. I was simply giving you guys my opinion on what I saw, which was a lot of cheating. It's something for some of you guys on the search to think about, thats all.

Alexandr
***** , typical.... sorry but it just happens all the time to foreigners, I know a lots of expats here who are my good friends here, so it happens to them all the time... russian girls are difficult....no one really knows what the hell they want...
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Alexandr
Seducing one is not difficult, but if you one something more serious then just "sex" it's always a problem....
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Nickolay
You posted a pic about 'real russians' who do not drink vodka etc. That refers to cliche about Russians as they are viewed from aside especially west side, that kind of cliche is called 'klukva' (cranberries) in ru-net. I thought you are from Russia and represent our local protest-patriotism group of people. OK, you're a Canadian as it seems.
Now let talk about girls, I personally helped one girl financially for 5 years, it seemed to me as marry soon and get happy life. I was cheated in truth. That is classic psychology they haven't seen good family life, their fathers, neighbors often were broken people who really drank alcohol as water. That is like growing up in ghetto. .
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Irina
**** haha you are crazy, I do not want to disappoint you but it seems you gonna fail, so, you'd better give up that idea.if she is a normal girl.Plus, if you care about money so much and want a Russian girl, then go to any resort when you earn money and bet you'll find some Russian girls who care about money as well and in fact, that's all what they care about.
 yes, ***** =)never trust Russian girls=)and about cheating so damn right you are=) hope, at least that will make **** pause to think
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[AmericanBoy]

This was the pictured I posted if any of you guys care. This is the way I think this boy saw russia oppose to what russia is really like. Some of it, of course is, but it's not all villages like people assume.

[acctBill]

That's what you guys don't seem to understand. I met people from ALL over russia and saw it with almost everyone. I was in 800 bed facility and probably saw 3 different waves of people roll through and these people travel from all over russia and the world for treatment. I'd say at most 10% were natives from that town.

I'm sure most of AB's supporters consider me as one of his skeptics.  This post just reinforces my skepticism.  Why would a foreigner take a planned trip to Tyumen, Russia for medical treatment, bypassing undoubtedly better hospitals in Moscow, St. Pete, Yekaterinburg and probably several other cities?

A foreigner with no connection to Russia, who speaks no Russian.  Really this is absurd. My wife knows of no reason why a hospital in Tyumen would be preferable to a hospital in Moscow or to any competent hospital in the US.  Perhaps someone from that part of Russia could help?  Are the doctors and hospitals that much better in Tyumen?  Is Tyumen known for medical tourism? 

   

[Boethius]

I do, because I suspect I know the type of medical procedure AB had done.  Not absurd if you know this (and I think my speculation is correct).