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Re: Pursuing FSUW 101. The procedures
« Reply #50 on: July 21, 2015, 03:15:12 PM »

Read the below links if you don't believe me. Info like this isn't hard to find on the internet.

http://russianaccelerator.com/russian-superstitions
http://web.stanford.edu/group/ccr/ccrblog/2010/03/flowers_in_russia.html

The internet is wrong about Yellow flowers being ONLY for funerals. Why do they
have a couple of dozen yellow flower combinations in EVERY florist shop in the FSU?
It's because you can give yellow flowers to anyone EXCEPT your wife/girlfriend. For
a wife/gf it signals the end of the relationship. You can give yellow flowers to her
babushka without her thinking that you are praying for her to die. You can buy
yellow flowers for an office party. You can buy Yellow flowers for a centerpiece for
New Years and nobody will think it's for a funeral.

FSUW are not for entry level daters
FSUW don't do vague
FSUW like a man of action. Be a man of action 
If you find a promising girl, get your butt on a plane.
There are a hundred ways to be successful and a thousand ways to f#ck it up
Kiss the girl, don't ask her first.

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Re: Pursuing FSUW 101. The procedures
« Reply #51 on: July 21, 2015, 04:02:12 PM »
The internet is wrong about Yellow flowers being ONLY for funerals.



Those websites are not wrong. They never said it's "only" for funerals. It's the color of separation. It can be given at funerals, a daughter leaving home, somebody leaving their job, or at a breakup. When yellow flowers are used with other colors, it has a entirely different meaning.
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« Reply #52 on: July 22, 2015, 06:24:53 PM »
WOVO = Write One, Visit One
WMVM = Write Many, Visit Many
WMVO = Write Many, Visit One
FSU = Former Soviet Union
FSUW = Former Soviet Union Women
FSUM = Former Soviet Union Men
AW/WW= American Women/Western Women
RW = Russian Women
UW = Ukrainian Women
AM = American Men
RM = Russian Men
UM = Russian Men

GCG--Green Card Girl (meaning women who marry just to immigrate)
DV--domestic violence
Mule-- A man who marries a GCG Green Card Girl

AWEB – anastasiaweb.com
ADATE – anastasiadate.com (same as AWEB)
HRB – hotrussianbrides.com
RLM – russianlovematch.com (same as HRB)
AOB – army-of-brides.com (also, a-pretty.com, hanuma, and hundreds more)

EM – elenasmodels.com

AFA – A Foreign Affair (url – loveme.com – many guys don't know this)

LL – lucklovers.net

Fat Uri or Hairy Boris  is the name we give to guys who pose as women to scam you.
SMS =Text on a mobile phone

FSUW are not for entry level daters
FSUW don't do vague
FSUW like a man of action. Be a man of action 
If you find a promising girl, get your butt on a plane.
There are a hundred ways to be successful and a thousand ways to f#ck it up
Kiss the girl, don't ask her first.

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« Reply #53 on: July 22, 2015, 06:28:07 PM »
Tip on getting a good apartment rate

Go to http://www.airbnb.com
 
Do a search for your dates and you will note when you view a property you can contact the owner/agent direct.

Don't make a booking, just write to a few of these contacts with your actual dates and try to get some deal. You don't want to be paying the advertised 'daily tourist rate'.

If you haven't used airbnb before then you have to register but its worth the hassle.
FSUW are not for entry level daters
FSUW don't do vague
FSUW like a man of action. Be a man of action 
If you find a promising girl, get your butt on a plane.
There are a hundred ways to be successful and a thousand ways to f#ck it up
Kiss the girl, don't ask her first.

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« Reply #54 on: July 22, 2015, 06:31:52 PM »
Excuses vs Solutions

A serious FSUW will find a way to overcome any problem known to mankind if they
are romantically interested in a man. Conversely, they will generate endless problems
and excuses if they are not. You only want a woman who is romantically interested in YOU.

If an FSUW is romantically interested in you she will borrow her sisters phone and lean out
the window with a coat hanger in her hand in a rainstorm to improve cell phone reception
just to talk to you on the phone if her phone dies. She will move mountains, solve intricate
problems and deal with all sorts of inconveniences to be with you.

If she is not interested in you then her phone will stop working, relatives will become sick,
her computer will catch a virus, the hard drive will crash and it will explode into a ball of
flames. The internet will cease to work in her city, She will be required to work 24 shifts,
and will need to donate a kidney to save a loved one.

If she has a legitimate excuse then she will often offer an alternative. I can't talk to you
at 9:00 pm because I must do XYZ with my Mother at 9:00 pm, I can talk to you at
10:00 pm.   

A serious girl will want to talk to you on the phone and on Skype.
A non serious girl will only want to speak to you on an agency site
where a proper commission will be paid.

Once you start hearing excuses in bunches you need to move on. You are wasting your
time and you are missing out on finding the girl for you. The sooner you dump this girl
the sooner you will find your girl. If she makes excuses why she doesn't want to meet
you in person then you are wasting your time, the girl isn't serious.

You MUST win the girls heart. She really wants you to but you must put in the work to
do it. You need to make the first move. You should be the one to initiate sex, especially the
first time. If she's not ready yet then she's not ready yet and will tell you. This is not a deal
killer in the FSU like it can be in the West. If they are serious THEY WANT YOU TO SEDUCE
THEM!
Every not butt-ugly Russian girl has been hit on by Russian men, they understand
you are a man. It's better to hit on the girl too early than too late. Of course it's better to do
this at the perfect time. They want to know that you are sexually attracted to them, if you
wait too long they will begin to think that you are either a wienie or not attracted to them or
both. 

« Last Edit: July 22, 2015, 06:49:24 PM by 2tallbill »
FSUW are not for entry level daters
FSUW don't do vague
FSUW like a man of action. Be a man of action 
If you find a promising girl, get your butt on a plane.
There are a hundred ways to be successful and a thousand ways to f#ck it up
Kiss the girl, don't ask her first.

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Re: Pursuing FSUW 101. The procedures and the dating websites.
« Reply #55 on: July 26, 2015, 02:19:56 PM »
Please try and post a professional looking picture of yourself. Not just a snapshot or camera photo.

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« Reply #56 on: September 14, 2015, 02:49:21 PM »
You are new at this and know very little Russian. Here is a website that
has many different excellent Russian phrases. It's been mentioned in
other threads but those threads have been buried for years.

This site gives you a list of many must learn phrases and many romantic
phrases. Did you know that every Russian name has several tender nicknames?
For example if your girls name is Svetlana she can be called SvetlAna, SvEta,
SvEtochka, SvetlAnka, SvEtik and the site has an mp3 recording so you
can hear how to pronounce them.

Here is the site
http://www.meighan.net/alexander/

I highly recommend learning at least half of the phrases

I would also highly recommend looking up the pet ways to say your girls
name. She will really like at least one of them and it's your job to find out
which one.



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« Last Edit: September 14, 2015, 02:51:12 PM by 2tallbill »
FSUW are not for entry level daters
FSUW don't do vague
FSUW like a man of action. Be a man of action 
If you find a promising girl, get your butt on a plane.
There are a hundred ways to be successful and a thousand ways to f#ck it up
Kiss the girl, don't ask her first.

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Re: Pursuing FSUW 101. The procedures
« Reply #57 on: September 23, 2015, 07:36:56 AM »
I would also highly recommend looking up the pet ways to say your girls
name. She will really like at least one of them and it's your job to find out
which one.

More efficient . . . call them all Honey Bunny.
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« Reply #58 on: September 23, 2015, 02:55:33 PM »
More efficient . . . call them all Honey Bunny.

LOL, That's what I call my girl an she loves it. Even refers to herself that way..... :D
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« Reply #59 on: September 23, 2015, 05:13:36 PM »
Quote
Here is the site
http://www.meighan.net/alexander/

@2tallbill wow! thank you for the link. I will surprise and tease my Russian girlfriend with a few basic quotes from this site until she goes ok My Pat, where do you pick these quotes :)

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Re: Pursuing FSUW 101. The procedures and the dating websites.
« Reply #60 on: November 14, 2015, 01:16:24 PM »
Does anyone have experience with BridesandLovers.com?

Just looking through the site, there seem to be a lot of women there.  But that might be a scam.  The site is also very aggressive about sending multiple e-mails per day with women supposedly expressing interest.  That seems a little to good to be true, because I have not even yet posted a photo! 

I'm thinking that a good way to test one of these sites is to set up a profile, before paying, and NOT post a photo.  Also put only the bare minimum in terms of description.  Then, wait to see how aggressive the site is about trying to pull you in.  If lots of apparently attractive women are expressing interest, you should have some major doubts.

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« Reply #61 on: November 14, 2015, 01:28:44 PM »
Just looking through the site, there seem to be a lot of women there.  But that might be a scam.  The site is also very aggressive about sending multiple e-mails per day with women supposedly expressing interest.  That seems a little to good to be true, because I have not even yet posted a photo! 



You know the answer after reading this thread. Why ask us? You're hoping somebody says it's a legit place? If your dream girl is in there, chances are she probably doesn't want to get to know you but you can Google her name, city, a few physical stats, and "marriage agency" or "dating site" or other combinations of words to see if she pops up at another agency doesn't play tricks on you.
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« Reply #62 on: November 15, 2015, 01:17:18 PM »
I wrote this elsewhere but decided to put it here as well.

Here are three pieces of advice that all men should keep in mind.

FSUW are not for entry level daters: If you are a beginning dater, stop
and get some local experience first, before dipping your toe in international
waters.

If you expect a scam everywhere you look, you will find a scam
everywhere you look:

Paranoia big destroyyyyaaa! You can wreck more international
relationships by falsely accusing an FSUW of being a scammer.
Want to avoid a scam? listen, watch her face and eyes and remember
what she says. The scammers will out themselves if you just pay attention.
The good girls will enjoy your attentiveness. It's a win-win

Never marry a woman you don't know if you only have two weeks of vacation
a year then you are barking up the wrong tree. It's impossible to know a woman
with only two weeks of boots on the ground. If you have limited vacation time,
change jobs, offer to work weekends and holidays and get more time for travel
or don't pursue a foreign woman.


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FSUW are not for entry level daters
FSUW don't do vague
FSUW like a man of action. Be a man of action 
If you find a promising girl, get your butt on a plane.
There are a hundred ways to be successful and a thousand ways to f#ck it up
Kiss the girl, don't ask her first.

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Re: Pursuing FSUW 101. The procedures and the dating websites.
« Reply #63 on: December 02, 2015, 08:51:15 PM »
True said avoid pay per letter scam agencies.
Now workers and translators have confessed and come forward and told the truth about Uadreams scams and similar date site agencies scams et and other things also shown.
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« Reply #64 on: May 28, 2016, 10:39:17 AM »
After arrival for a 4 week or so visit:

1) call the 3 or so gals that are first on your lists that you have already scheduled dates with in the above procedure.  This is to touch base and assure them you are really there.  Later you call the other gals on your list 3 days or so before their scheduled time.
2) I had business meetings most mornings; so I scheduled mid-afternoon restaurant meetings with the gals at around 2-3 PM.  This had advantage of virtually empty restaurants and absence of smokers.
3) I had told the gals to free up time for this [ I had already insisted that the gals take an afternoon off from work.  Those who only wanted to meet after work and weekends were dropped in the earlier email exchange process] and for the entire evening as we could have some fruits and wines later.  I never said it would be the entire evening or night or anything about a sleepover, etc.  They could read it anyway they wanted.
4) Depending on how the meal meeting went:
a) I would thank them for meeting with me and wish them well; or
b) We would go for a walk in the city parks, etc.
5) We would talk about a future meeting and I would put them in a taxi; or
6) We would go to my apartment for the fruits, wine, look at my pictures, listen to music, maybe sing some karaoke, maybe dance, maybe do some light making out, which may or may not lead to heavier stuff.
7) We would call a taxi for her; or
8) She would stay the night.  I never pushed this.
9) Continue this procedure for 10-15 days with new gals.
10) Because some dates would end after the first afternoon meal and others would end after a walk in the park; this left empty time starting at day 3 or so for late afternoons, evenings and nights.  This would  allow for phone and SMS calls to previous gals who you want to meet for 2nd, 3rd, etc. times.
11) The gals that you started meeting multiple times, you start talking with them about future days that you can spend consecutively with them which implies sleepovers.
12) By the time you have met with all 10-15 gals, you are probably down to 3-6 who you end up spending a lot of time with the last two weeks or so of your trip.

Yes, of course a person can't do the above if he lacks:

a) A strong personality and leadership skills.
b) Analytical ability.
c) Ability to perform complex scheduling and coordination tasks.
d) A good memory and recall of facts, people, faces, names, places, etc.
e) Confidence in yourself.
f) Ability to tell a lot of jokes and have great humor in general.
g) Comfort around women in general.
h) Social skills in general.
i) Good written and oral (both type) skills
j) Ability to talk about most anything with most anybody.
k) Ability to avoid meeting with women lacking English skills.
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Re: Pursuing FSUW 101. The procedures and the dating websites.
« Reply #65 on: August 02, 2016, 08:32:29 AM »
I am looking at the list. I had already checked out fdating.com and luckylovers.net. Both seemed to have lots of scammers. May be I am just a scammer magnet.  :D Invaluable education on this site enabled be to detect and terminate contact with scammers of course.

Is there an update to the site listing seen at the top in terms of which are best?

Thanks.

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« Reply #66 on: August 02, 2016, 09:35:21 AM »
I am looking at the list. I had already checked out fdating.com and luckylovers.net. Both seemed to have lots of scammers. May be I am just a scammer magnet.  :D Invaluable education on this site enabled be to detect and terminate contact with scammers of course.

Is there an update to the site listing seen at the top in terms of which are best?

Thanks.

All dating websites will have their fair share of fake profiles and scammers. Its up to you to use your common sense in filtering out the undesirables. The recommended sites listed will give you a fair chance at finding some good ladies looking for real relationships.
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« Reply #67 on: August 02, 2016, 09:37:39 AM »
May be I am just a scammer magnet. 


Every man attracts them because you're writing to the same sexy girls they do.  ;) Scammers are also less selective and better at attracting men than normal women are.
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« Reply #68 on: January 12, 2017, 12:13:27 PM »
The race doesn't always go to the swift, nor the battle to the strong but that's
the way to bet. A guy can do everything wrong and still have success but he is
far more likely to fail. These are methods or guidelines to improve your chances
at success.

What can you do to improve your chances?

1. Figure out what you want: If you don't know what you are looking for will
 you recognize it when you find it? Decide if you are a visit one or a visit many guy.

2. Make a plan: Plan your work and work your plan. Always look for ways to
improve your plan and your tactics. Don't make the same mistakes again and again.

3. Make a back up plan: It's very rare for a guy to find the girl of his dreams
on his first trip. Far more often things don't work out especially in a visit one situation.
If you want to simply tour around the country and be a tourist it's better than locking
yourself in your room feeling sorry for yourself, but it's not nearly as good as having a
plan of action to meet others.

4. Improve yourself: You will attract more hotter, higher quality women if
you are in reasonable shape, speak a few words of Russian, have clean clipped
nails and are stylishly dressed than if you look like you've just rebuilt your Harley.
If you utilize your ear hair in your comb-over then you won't as readily attract the
highest quality women as someone who keeps his ear and nose hair under control.

5. Stay in an apartment NOT A HOTEL!: I could list a hundred reasons why,
but there are always a fairly large number of jack asses men who will ignore
this.

6. Visit them in their city for your first trip There are many reasons to do
this. There are some reasonable exceptions to this and I would be happy to discuss
them, but this is the best advice to improve your chances, especially for newbies.
A. Don't go on a joint vacation with them for a first trip.
B. Don't stay in their apartment 
C. Don't try to hop around to a half dozen cities where various girls are located.
D. Don't rent an apartment with a separate bed for them.

7. Take this one step at a time:
A. Don't bring a ring or visa paperwork with you on your first trip.
B. Don't fall in love before you meet in person
C. A cafe is a good place for a first date, save a romantic dinner or the
tickets to the ballet for a future date when you know you have chemistry.
D. You don't go shopping

8. Stop and smell the roses, wherever you are be there. While it makes
a lot of sense to spend your time seeing new girls if you haven't found one to
pursue exclusively don't go to St Petersburg without seeing the Hermitage.
(I did that) For goodness sake have FUN! if you aren't having fun dating
beautiful and exciting women then you are doing something wrong.

9. Be prepared to kick any girl no matter how hot she is to the curb If
you can't do this then date girls at home.

10. Be the one driving the bus! for a first date, you are the one who picks
the venue, etc. Don't allow a hottie to lead you around by the penis nose.

11. If/When you meet a perfect candidate then stop dating other girls and pursue her.
Let her know your intentions and get her out of circulation.

12. Don't leave without a plan to meet again unless you don't want to meet again

13. Review, correct mistakes and improve After each conversation, each date,
each meeting, each trip you should be getting progressively better and better at this.

« Last Edit: January 12, 2017, 12:27:49 PM by 2tallbill »
FSUW are not for entry level daters
FSUW don't do vague
FSUW like a man of action. Be a man of action 
If you find a promising girl, get your butt on a plane.
There are a hundred ways to be successful and a thousand ways to f#ck it up
Kiss the girl, don't ask her first.

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Re: Pursuing FSUW 101. The procedures and the dating websites.
« Reply #69 on: January 12, 2017, 03:32:01 PM »
Do Learn Russian..

Do try to make local friends...

Do eat new foods..

Make sure you get on the good side of her parents...



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« Reply #70 on: January 12, 2017, 04:25:44 PM »
Do Learn Russian..

You don't have to be fluent - in fact, you aren't going to be living there, so don't bother with anything more than the basics.  Learn the Cyrillic alphabet to help you get around when you're on your own, and learn at least a few helpful phrases in Russian or Ukrainian, depending on where you are going.  The ABSOLUTE basics are obvious:

Hello
Goodbye
Please
Thank you
Yes
No
Where's the toilet?  :devil:

Good luck!

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Re: Pursuing FSUW 101. The procedures and the dating websites.
« Reply #71 on: January 12, 2017, 08:51:04 PM »
The ABSOLUTE basics are obvious:

Hello
Goodbye
Please
Thank you
Yes
No
Where's the toilet? 

You forgot:

Do you wanna .........?
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« Reply #72 on: January 14, 2017, 03:27:38 PM »
You forgot:

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FSUW are not for entry level daters
FSUW don't do vague
FSUW like a man of action. Be a man of action 
If you find a promising girl, get your butt on a plane.
There are a hundred ways to be successful and a thousand ways to f#ck it up
Kiss the girl, don't ask her first.

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« Reply #73 on: August 08, 2017, 02:03:40 PM »
As per my 'orders' from ML! :)

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Pursuing FSUW 101: The procedures and the dating websites.
« Reply #74 on: September 23, 2017, 04:40:24 PM »
AJ posted this in another thread. I didn't want to see it get lost, so I copied it here
so that newbies could learn from his experience and success.



So vast majority if crash and burns at such suspect agencies , is over a METHODOLOGY, 
of a guy chasing a girl out of his league.


This methodology, wouldn't be generally successful in his home town,  at a free site of FSU
women, or with fsu women he met at the park.

If he dated FSU women his age, in relative attractiveness to his looks and and status, it
would not matter if he met them off a ppl site ,a free site or the park, we wouldn't even
be having this discussion.

So to think the crappy ppl.sites, are the real heart if the issue cracks me up.
The men's expectations are.

They travel to a poor economy, a culture and society where corruption is a way of
life and accepted as status quo, then think *where* they find the woman has much
bearing on any given woman's ethics.

The reason guys should avoid ppl, is because they are like moths to the flame, they
write the ten hottest youngest women, or as close to it as the personally dare, and
wonder why there are issues. They can't bring themselves to correspond with the
thousands and thousands  of women in just one city on such sites they'd consider
average.


I know a pile in Nikoleav that are quite attractive, early to late 30s and never get
a sincere letter in 3 or 4 years. They then typical give up, as they never really felt
it possible anyway.

To label all agency girls as unethical, over the percent that are mercenary, is silly.


To wade through the ppl bad agency crap, we say is too tough.
Its, only too tough because men are men.

I married someone 19 years younger, and breathtakingly beautiful inside and out,
so admit the glass house  .

My wife was 28 when we met.
So don't take it harshly, I'm throwing pebbles not stones!

But I don't hide behind crappy excuses, or blame mercenary girls for any failure
of my own. I own my actions, every one of them, poor or not, and frankly had no
problems telling a good person from a mercenary one.

If I did not,  I'd have mitigated my losses and taken my lumps.
In fact I'd have probably felt *good on ya girl* and know I was as culpable as she,
and just moved on.

It's about attitude. Its about realistic expectations,
And it's about knowing what you have to offer as a partner
(very little of that worth is measured financially)

I've made decent money some years ad zero some years,means nothing.
My wife has worked ,and would gladly carry us, if I was unable to at any given time.
She's never had to ,but the attitude of a team, a partnership in life as a family is
fundamental to how she thinks,reacts, lives.
As long as its a husband she loves & respects this is typical of an FSU woman s mentality .

So guys going on  about a subset of 20 yo smokinhotkovas, being totally mercenary,
is actually a bit amusing .

These are not the guys a model looking 20 to 25yo NYC or LA socialite is regularly dating,
and within that group of girls  ,there is a pretty good percent of mercenary status climbers.

So yes guys should avoid flying to NyC to meet them, unless buying very high end items
is their idea if true romance right?

« Last Edit: September 23, 2017, 04:42:24 PM by 2tallbill »
FSUW are not for entry level daters
FSUW don't do vague
FSUW like a man of action. Be a man of action 
If you find a promising girl, get your butt on a plane.
There are a hundred ways to be successful and a thousand ways to f#ck it up
Kiss the girl, don't ask her first.

 

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