Bizzare, Weird and Scary 1st Meeting

[Gator]

I don't know about that but I think I may have mentioned something about being lactose intolerant in the past though. 

You could always spit rather than swallow, a practice followed by many RW.   

[calmissile]

You could always spit rather than swallow, a practice followed by many RW.   

Now that's a new bit of useful information we have not heard before.   

[Aloe]

Yes, this "spiritual" stuff of going to a person who "sees the future" and can "un-jinx" you is a normal thing for many women of all classes of the society. It is really shocking how many are into this stuff

[Aloe]

My mom is also sure she can sense the future  and she went multiple times to those persons i really hate it. What i hate even more is her telling me when i was younger about what those people "saw" in MY future. Arrrrrrghh. In so many ways, this is a mean thing to say, my mom is a wonderful example on what NOT to do in a marriage and when raising children. The only thing she got right is the obvious love. But that's about it. I'd do EVERYTHING else differently. Lol. Did i mention she was a rocket scientist? She is very smart academically. But in life... oh dear, hold on to your socks.

[Handycam72]

My mom is also sure she can sense the future  and she went multiple times to those persons i really hate it. What i hate even more is her telling me when i was younger about what those people "saw" in MY future. Arrrrrrghh. In so many ways, this is a mean thing to say, my mom is a wonderful example on what NOT to do in a marriage and when raising children. The only thing she got right is the obvious love. But that's about it. I'd do EVERYTHING else differently. Lol. Did i mention she was a rocket scientist? She is very smart academically. But in life... oh dear, hold on to your socks.

 
I remember when in my early 20s I visited a couple of them, not one thing they got correct, apart from I would get older.
 
I have come across this mentality a couple of times, it does strike me as dated and old fashioned. The same people often claiming they have a great intellect, but nothing on the level this person did. She even started quoting references from the bible and staing it is a factual life guide (there were zero religous tones in any conversation prior to meeting) during her rant and stating she is very experienced in life and the world.
 
Although with her great intellect (she spoke very good English) she did not realise that when I suggested to her "with all this great intellect and ability to change people, your on another planet, I am sure I have seen your eyelids blink from the sides instead of like humans from top and bottom (then proceeded to demonstrate how her eyelids blinked)" she took that as compliment, anyone normal would of realised I was stating she was not of this world and out there with the fairies.
 
It is a shame really, as when behaving in a normal rational way she was a good person.
 
I just hope she never meets a newbie, they will be put off for life.

[calmissile]

Yes, this "spiritual" stuff of going to a person who "sees the future" and can "un-jinx" you is a normal thing for many women of all classes of the society. It is really shocking how many are into this stuff

Aloe,  I am glad you brought up this topic.  I do not remember reading it in any of the E-Books and thought my experience must have been a fluke.  Hopefully, the authors of the books will add more about this so that it will not be a shock if men experience it with their G/F. 

My experience with my FSU G/F was to take a trip to Zap by train to see her 'psychologist'.  I was execting that we were going to a clinical psychologist in a office setting.  It turned out to be a lady in her flat.  I sat on a couch and watched the process.  My G/F was laying face down on a padded table.  Music was playing softly and scented candles were lit.  The 'psychologist' was slowly moving her hands above her body and talking in Russian to her.  It might have lasted about 20 minutes.  That was about all that happened.  Train back to home.  I wish I had been able to understand Russian to know what was being said.

The next scary moment was when she told me that she wanted to practice this 'psychology' as a business when she got to the USA.  I can imagine how that would go over.  I never  brought this topic up in a thread because I assumed it was something rare and unique to my G/F.  It seems by your post that it is not that uncommon

[Boethius]

The next scary moment was when she told me that she wanted to practice this
'psychology' as a business when she got to the USA.  I can imagine how that would go over.

You're talking about a country with pet psychologists, pet psychics - see this - personal readings for your pet at $300 an hour
 
http://www.sonyafitzpatrick.com/
 
and it is not unknown to prescribe prozac for depressed dogs.
 
And you think that business couldn't make it???

[OlgaH]

Yes, this "spiritual" stuff of going to a person who "sees the future" and can "un-jinx" you is a normal thing for many women of all classes of the society. It is really shocking how many are into this stuff

There are psychics everywhere in the US. Very often I see commercial eds on different TV channels advertising the psychics from California and how people are happy with the results      

[calmissile]

Quote from: Aloe on Today at 02:08:09 PM
Yes, this "spiritual" stuff of going to a person who "sees the future" and can "un-jinx" you is a normal thing for many women of all classes of the society. It is really shocking how many are into this stuff 

Quote from:  OlgaH
There are psychics everywhere in the US. Very often I see commercial eds on different TV channels advertising the psychics from California and how people are happy with the results

Olga,
Your probably right!  Based on late night TV ad's it would appear that you can sell anything to American's.   

Aloe,
I was curious if we have any married men that have wives that practice this sort of thing. Or is it a sign to RUN like hell?   

   

[Spoon]

Aloe,
I was curious if we have any married men that have wives that practice this sort of thing. Or is it a sign to RUN like hell?   

   

On the contrary - sounds like a trip to a good accountant, set up a business/marketing plan would be a good step (to retirement )

My experience with this sort of thing doesn't involve my Wife (thankfully) except the usual Russian superstitions, such as a moment sitting on the side of the bed before a trip, looking in the mirror if you need to return to the house to fetch a forgotten item.

My MIL, on the other hand believes in a few more 'strange' ideas - such as the meticulous cleaning of the apartment we stayed at in St Pete....every single hair removed from the bathroom - in case a 'Witch' was to find them and give us the 'Bad Eye' My wife explained the procedure to me, all while rolling her eyes

[Chicagoguy]

My wife can "read" people - or so she says. She calls it intuition and I have to admit she is usually correct. Mainly good and bad people. But I am sure many prople can do similar.
 But what was more surprising was when she told me she can "see things". Her only example was how police on several occasions came to her to help solve a missing persons crime. Twice she told them where a body was and once where the person was and that they were fine. Other times she saw nothing. She soon stopped helping because it spooked her too much.
She is a strong believer in Positive Mental Attitude and a book by John Kehoe.

[Faux Pas]

My wife can "read" people - or so she says. She calls it intuition and I have to admit she is usually correct. Mainly good and bad people. But I am sure many prople can do similar.
 But what was more surprising was when she told me she can "see things". Her only example was how police on several occasions came to her to help solve a missing persons crime. Twice she told them where a body was and once where the person was and that they were fine. Other times she saw nothing. She soon stopped helping because it spooked her too much.
She is a strong believer in Positive Mental Attitude and a book by John Kehoe.

For the FWIW department, 15 or so years ago I was at a business conference. The entertainment one particular night was a carnival atmosphere, literally. Popcorn, cotton candy (among the cocktails) jugglers ect, included in the assorted sideshow acts was a gypsy fortune teller. She held my hand for a considerable time while talking to me mostly very mundane small talk. Almost instantly she got serious and told me a number of specific worries I had at the time. I was much surprised as nothing we talked about would have given her a clue. She told me how they would likely turn out without any alternative. She was on the money on all points and a few that didn't come to past until many, many years later. She told me some things financial to be weary of, she was exactly right.

I've never been to a fortune teller before or since and how this woman knew what she knew was beyond me but she missed nothing and was very specific. I did prior and still do now believe 99% of the proclaimed psychics are hokey. I have no explanation for this woman. I was sure she was only in a costume playing a sideshow gig but she did indeed know.

[ECOCKS]

I never had much respect for anyone who thought this stuff was real.

That said, I did date a gal a couple of times who was fascinated that I had been fully hypnotized once. She wanted to know all about it and kept asking questions about what was in my mind while it happened? Did I remember? all that sort of thing.

She clearly believed (or wanted to believe) that magic and the supernatural were real.

Personally, I believe some people have a better-developed sense of intuition than others but have no belief in the whole psychic powers thing. Neither do the vast majority of Americans despite our fascination with the subject in movies.

[Boethius]

I do believe people can have psychic powers, because my Grandmother had very strong psychic powers.  As I grew up with this, I have always been open minded about it.  I "met" online many years ago, on a large American forum, a guy who was also psychic.  He lives in San Francisco, where there are institutes devoted to psychic study, and he introduced me to some of the readers there.  Anytime he discussed it, he was met with skepticism, even ridicule, but I did tell him I believed what he'd posted.

He did a reading for me, and as with Faux Pas, he hit on things that he knew nothing about, mostly to do with one of my sons.  It was something I had never ever discussed, and there is no way he could have "cold read" this, it was so specific.  Also, no money changed hands, he does this in furthering his gift.

I do believe some people have more developed senses of intuition and psychic ability, and I think it is rare.  I think a lot of paid psychics are charlatans, but I think there are a lot who really do wish to help people.

[GQBlues]

For the FWIW department, 15 or so years ago I was at a business conference. The entertainment one particular night was a carnival atmosphere, literally. Popcorn, cotton candy (among the cocktails) jugglers ect, included in the assorted sideshow acts was a gypsy fortune teller. She held my hand for a considerable time while talking to me mostly very mundane small talk. Almost instantly she got serious and told me a number of specific worries I had at the time. I was much surprised as nothing we talked about would have given her a clue. She told me how they would likely turn out without any alternative. She was on the money on all points and a few that didn't come to past until many, many years later. She told me some things financial to be weary of, she was exactly right.

I've never been to a fortune teller before or since and how this woman knew what she knew was beyond me but she missed nothing and was very specific. I did prior and still do now believe 99% of the proclaimed psychics are hokey. I have no explanation for this woman. I was sure she was only in a costume playing a sideshow gig but she did indeed know.

I had 2 experiences with these folks. The first one was at Venice Beach, of all places, LOL. I was trying to prove a point to my buds that these things were nothing but a scam. I went in and got the usual things with tarot cards, etc...paid my dues then left.

We walked further down the boardwalk and saw another one, and this was the banger to my point because I told them if these guys were for real, then they should be telling me the same thing, no?

In I go...no more than a minute I sat down and she took my hand, she looked at me and said - I sense you just went to see someone else with a gift no more than 45 minutes ago(about a mile or so apart)...the hair on the back of my head did stand a little..heebee jeebees, man.

3 months later, I was out for dinner with a gal, along with my buddy and his GF, when we drove by a fortune teller. The gals thought it would be cool for us to stop by for 'fun'. Everyone took their turns, girls were giggling, the butter's getting hard and the eggs were cooling (props for Chickie Baby). Finally, I was the last one to go. In the back of my mind I really didn't want to do this based on that previous experience. The experience is just giving me the creeps. But, the feeling of not looking 'cool' with the company was a bit stronger than the feeling being scared sh!tless. So 'IN' I go again.

Now this lady got me frazzled. She was telling me things no one, except my closest family, knew. She told me things that happened to me back on the islands. People I know, what I did for work, etc...Then she started telling me things that weren't very pleasant. I was in dire personal conflict with that. She told me that there was a way for me to undo some of things if some candles were made to burn. But of course there are fees for this. As soon as she said this, everything went out the window as it rang loudly like a scam to me. I was almost convinced after that this was nothing but a hoax, but then she said....(paraphrased)

"...your skepticism should've been banished 3 months ago when two ladies of the kind tried to convince you there are those like us with gifts...".

Man. I started to sense Linda Blair with those sleepy eyes in the room, you know. Standing behind me. That numbing, warm feeling you get when something eery was starting to wrap itself around you. Then it all seem to hike up through the back of your neck, then the tingle on your ears...then Boom!

Yup. That's the feeling alright! Holy sisters of mercy, man.

That jilted me so bad, the first thing I did the next morning was call my priest. I was in total conflict, man. I'm not really religious, but the teaching of "..no one before God.." compelled me to check with my church. I asked Father Gentry if there are in fact people with these gifts, and  if believing in them somehow losing my faith to the church.

He said 'yes'. He believes there are those born with the gift. Then 'no'.

But he also threw caution that there are far more of those that are fake. To this day, I still don't know what to believe. But that's just me...

[Ade]

I do believe people can have psychic powers, because my Grandmother had very strong psychic powers.  As I grew up with this, I have always been open minded about it.  I "met" online many years ago, on a large American forum, a guy who was also psychic.  He lives in San Francisco, where there are institutes devoted to psychic study, and he introduced me to some of the readers there.  Anytime he discussed it, he was met with skepticism, even ridicule, but I did tell him I believed what he'd posted.

He did a reading for me, and as with Faux Pas, he hit on things that he knew nothing about, mostly to do with one of my sons.  It was something I had never ever discussed, and there is no way he could have "cold read" this, it was so specific.  Also, no money changed hands, he does this in furthering his gift.

I do believe some people have more developed senses of intuition and psychic ability, and I think it is rare.  I think a lot of paid psychics are charlatans, but I think there are a lot who really do wish to help people.

There is no such thing as "psychic powers". Never been proved. Never will be. And scientists have tried and tried to find some, any objective proof that there is a possibility but nothing. Even the military of various superpowers with their huge resources have tried to find evidence of these supernatural abilities; do you know how much of an advantage it would give a country to possess these? And, nothing. Not a sausage. They couldn't even find Osama bin Laden in plain sight.


Any time this seems to work, it's just luck & coincidence, self-delusion, trickery, or normal intuition, which is just your conscious and subconscious mind using all your senses to formulate a likely outcome from existing data - for instance, the body language of a person you're talking to, intonation of their voice, the weather, the news you heard in the background that didn't consciously register... all these things and so many more pieces of data allow your mind to build many simulations of the world around you and you don't even realize you're doing it. From these models you can sometimes extract what seem like the most amazing leaps of intuition. We have all had these moments at one time or another.


Seriously, I am truly disappointed that you would believe in this. 

[newjason]

My wife can "read" people - or so she says. She calls it intuition and I have to admit she is usually correct. Mainly good and bad people. But I am sure many prople can do similar.
 But what was more surprising was when she told me she can "see things". Her only example was how police on several occasions came to her to help solve a missing persons crime. Twice she told them where a body was and once where the person was and that they were fine. Other times she saw nothing. She soon stopped helping because it spooked her too much.
She is a strong believer in Positive Mental Attitude and a book by John Kehoe.

I also have an ability similar to this. I do not believe in psychics or esp or fortune telling or any of that sort of thing.  Intuition is a good word for it.  It is very hard to explain what it is exactly, but it is something that some people have and some do not have.
When I "see things" they are more along the lines of an unwelcome event or tragic disturbance, death,  pain,  usually very extreme things that don't happen often. And they are always very close to the time before the event.
I would not say it is like "seeing" for me, its more like...
Like sitting in your house , and you realize that you forgot to lock  the door as an unwelcome intruder walks in...
My dad makes fun of me and tells me I am sensing a disturbance in "the Force"
But surprisingly the comparison is Apt.

[Aloe]

Wait, wait! I had a psychic moment once! I came into the kitchen intending to drink yoghurt out of a carton in the dark, when i suddenly felt the urge to turn on the light to inspect my yoghurt on the subject of flies swimming in it. So i did, and whaddaya know, there was a fly swimming in it! First and last time i've ever seen a fly swimming anywhere, so what are the chances that on that specific night i felt urged to check my yoghurt for flies by peeking through the hole into the carton? hahahaha

Back on topic though, i think that woman is just crazy. And even if she wasn't crazy, which she is, anyone beating themelves on the chest proclaiming themselves smarter than everyone sounds like someone to be avoided  

[Vinnvinny]

You could always spit rather than swallow, a practice followed by many RW.   

I would never do that and after I had taken the time to prepare and deliver a tasty dish full of natural produce and protein, I would be most upset should this happen to me. 

[Belvis]

There is no such thing as "psychic powers". Never been proved. Never will be. And scientists have tried and tried to find some, any objective proof that there is a possibility but nothing.

I kept the same attitude for a long time, until the emergency had happened with my close friend 8 years ago. His wife starts to lose consciousness of severe headache, painkillers didn't help. They made tomography of the head, 2 times. In both cases the diagnosis was clear: inoperable tumour in her brain. A few doctors they consulted told them the categoric statement: she may live a couple more months, or little longer. No hope from the public health services, and they have two kids of school age.
O.K., nothing to lose for them, so they turned to a psychic in Moscow. They talk with him. He asked to leave a her photo, then he made a few phone conversations with her. In a couple of weeks she feels much better, the 3-d tomography shows no sign of tumour. The last doctor they asked provided no explanation, but asked the phone number of that psychic.
My friend became interested in religion since. They tried the service of the psychic for their relatives. The results were mixed or controversial, so there is no firm evidence of the psychic power. 
The official orthodox church point is: psychics can help with the help of the devil.

[ghost of moon goddess]

You're talking about a country with pet psychologists, pet psychics - see this - personal readings for your pet at $300 an hour
 
http://www.sonyafitzpatrick.com/
 
and it is not unknown to prescribe prozac for depressed dogs.
 
And you think that business couldn't make it???

This reminded me of a pet confusion service: Your pet is suffering from what the Vets haven't found a word for? 
Well, we can definitely  say that your pet badly needs to be confused!

Confuse-a-Pet Cat Ltd   

[Ade]

I kept the same attitude for a long time, until the emergency had happened with my close friend 8 years ago. His wife starts to lose consciousness of severe headache, painkillers didn't help. They made tomography of the head, 2 times. In both cases the diagnosis was clear: inoperable tumour in her brain. A few doctors they consulted told them the categoric statement: she may live a couple more months, or little longer. No hope from the public health services, and they have two kids of school age.
O.K., nothing to lose for them, so they turned to a psychic in Moscow. They talk with him. He asked to leave a her photo, then he made a few phone conversations with her. In a couple of weeks she feels much better, the 3-d tomography shows no sign of tumour. The last doctor they asked provided no explanation, but asked the phone number of that psychic.
My friend became interested in religion since. They tried the service of the psychic for their relatives. The results were mixed or controversial, so there is no firm evidence of the psychic power. 
The official orthodox church point is: psychics can help with the help of the devil.

There are always stories like this. There are many spontaneous remissions that occur without the intervention of "psychics" or prayers from the faithful.  And there are countless people who die no matter how many "psychics" they visit or how many prayers are said; my ex-wife's mother included. I can assure you, whatever spontaneous  remissions occur after a visit to a psychic healer, they would have happened anyway.


And, sometimes, it's just an incorrect diagnosis to begin with.

[Belvis]

There are always stories like this. There are many spontaneous remissions that occur without the intervention of "psychics" or prayers from the faithful.  And there are countless people who die no matter how many "psychics" they visit or how many prayers are said; my ex-wife's mother included. I can assure you, whatever spontaneous  remissions occur after a visit to a psychic healer, they would have happened anyway.


And, sometimes, it's just an incorrect diagnosis to begin with.

Yes, I know the reasonable explanation. So it makes sense  seeing  a psychic healer to increase the probability of an incorrect diagnosis or sudden remission 

[SANDRO43]

http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=10887.msg214005#msg214005

[GQBlues]

Well, for the psychics amongst us, I had to come forward and let everyone here know...

I am a gifted psychic. Yes, I have the gift and the power.  I wanted to hold off telling anyone but the power is really more a curse than a blessing. I know it's difficult for many of you to believe me, but..this I can say just to prove that point...

Within the following month, the following will occur.

a) A newbie will sign-up and profess he's headed to FSU for RWs - and blame AWs for this decision.

b) Jack will have an argument with someone.

c) Eduard will promote his services somewhere in a thread.

d) The age gap subject will be once again discussed.

By these accounts, now you know why I feel being psychic, such as myself, is a curse.

"He once went to a fortune teller - to warn her"






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