Bizzare, Weird and Scary 1st Meeting

[Boethius]

There is no such thing as "psychic powers". Never been proved. Never will be. And scientists have tried and tried to find some, any objective proof that there is a possibility but nothing. Even the military of various superpowers with their huge resources have tried to find evidence of these supernatural abilities; do you know how much of an advantage it would give a country to possess these? And, nothing. Not a sausage. They couldn't even find Osama bin Laden in plain sight.


Any time this seems to work, it's just luck & coincidence, self-delusion, trickery, or normal intuition, which is just your conscious and subconscious mind using all your senses to formulate a likely outcome from existing data - for instance, the body language of a person you're talking to, intonation of their voice, the weather, the news you heard in the background that didn't consciously register... all these things and so many more pieces of data allow your mind to build many simulations of the world around you and you don't even realize you're doing it. From these models you can sometimes extract what seem like the most amazing leaps of intuition. We have all had these moments at one time or another.


Seriously, I am truly disappointed that you would believe in this. 

LOL.  Sorry, there are many things that are unexplained and beyond scientific knowledge at present.  Just because it cannot be proven doesn't mean it does not exist.


Good one, moon goddess.

[Muzh]

I would never do that and after I had taken the time to prepare and deliver a tasty dish full of natural produce and protein, I would be most upset should this happen to me. 

I guess you'll never be a wine taster. OR if you become one, you'll be a very happy one. Just don't drive home. 

[Muzh]

HEY, where did you get my picture???
 

Well, for the psychics amongst us, I had to come forward and let everyone here know...

I am a gifted psychic. Yes, I have the gift and the power.  I wanted to hold off telling anyone but the power is really more a curse than a blessing. I know it's difficult for many of you to believe me, but..this I can say just to prove that point...

Within the following month, the following will occur.

a) A newbie will sign-up and profess he's headed to FSU for RWs - and blame AWs for this decision.

b) Jack will have an argument with someone.

c) Eduard will promote his services somewhere in a thread.

d) The age gap subject will be once again discussed.

By these accounts, now you know why I feel being psychic, such as myself, is a curse.


 

"He once went to a fortune teller - to warn her"






~ Stay thirsty my friends ~

[Gator]

LOL.  Sorry, there are many things that are unexplained and beyond scientific knowledge at present.  Just because it cannot be proven doesn't mean it does not exist.

Yes, just as the best minds thought the world flat.   The more you learn, the more you realize how little you know.  While Ade does not attach much value to faith, he can take comfort that in his lifetime no proof will be forthcoming to dispute his position.

[GQBlues]

HEY, where did you get my picture???

Interesting. I thought it was mine.

[Ade]

LOL.  Sorry, there are many things that are unexplained and beyond scientific knowledge at present.  Just because it cannot be proven doesn't mean it does not exist.

And so everything that we don't currently understand has to be attributed to the supernatural? Sounds a little medieval to me.

[Muzh]

Interesting. I thought it was mine.

Oy, my long lost twin. Call the National Enquirer.

[Ranetka]

Within the following month, the following will occur.

a) A newbie will sign-up and profess he's headed to FSU for RWs - and blame AWs for this decision.

b) Jack will have an argument with someone.

c) Eduard will promote his services somewhere in a thread.

d) The age gap subject will be once again discussed.

By these accounts, now you know why I feel being psychic, such as myself, is a curse.

 

"He once went to a fortune teller - to warn her"




~ Stay thirsty my friends ~

Correction: Jack will have an argument with Eduard. 

[Boethius]

And so everything that we don't currently understand has to be attributed to the supernatural? Sounds a little medieval to me.

No, I think you have it backwards.
 
There are phenomena that we, in our primitive state, cannot comprehend.

[SANDRO43]

And so everything that we don't currently understand has to be attributed to the supernatural?

That may not be its best definition. If you say that there's something that "we don't currently understand", you're implying that it exists , although no generally accepted explanation is available for it.

Maybe it's an ability that humans possessed long ago, and evolution bypassed it in most but a minority still retain .

[GQBlues]

Oy, my long lost twin. Call the National Enquirer.

Well, before we do that, just make sure we're on the same page, much less DNA, so here's 30 checklist items and let me know if this is *you* as they are *me*.

• He lives vicariously through himself.
• He once taught a German shepherd to bark in Spanish.
• He never says something tastes like chicken – not even chicken.
• He’s been known to cure narcolepsy, just by walking into a room.
• He once had an awkward moment, just to see how it feels.
• His beard alone has experienced more than a lesser man’s entire body.
• Even his enemies list him as their emergency contact number.
• He’s a lover, not a fighter, but he’s also a fighter, so don’t get any ideas.
• When it is raining, it is because he is thinking of something sad.
• His shirts never wrinkle.
• He is left-handed. And right-handed.
• If he were to mail a letter without postage, it would still get there.
• He has amassed an incredibly large DVD library, and it is said that he never once alphabetized it.
• You can see his charisma from space.
• The police often question him, just because they find him interesting.
• He once punched a magician. That’s right. You heard me.
• If a monument were built in his honor, Mt. Rushmore would close… due to poor attendance.
• His blood smells like cologne.
• His organ donation card also lists his beard.
• On every continent in the world, there is a sandwich named after him.
• He doesn’t believe in using oven mitts, nor potholders.
• His reputation is expanding faster than the universe.
• His cereal never gets soggy. It sits there, staying crispy, just for him.
• The pheromones he secretes have been known to affect people miles away, in a slight but measurable way.
• His hands feel like rich brown suede.
• He owns three sports cars and rents five.
• He once taught a horse to read email for him.
• He once brought in $13 million at a charity bachelor auction, which was a lot of money at the time.
• Respected archaeologists fight over his discarded apple cores.
• He can speak Russian...in French.

(#s 4, 9, & 23 are just hysterical to me)

[Ade]

No, I think you have it backwards.
 
There are phenomena that we, in our primitive state, cannot comprehend.

Ah, so anything we can't reproduce at all or objectively document under controlled conditions is somehow beyond our comprehension? Even though those same phenomena are perfectly comprehensible to "psychics" once the objective measuring devices are off?


Don't get me wrong, I know very well there are phenomena out there that we do not yet understand but none of them involve psychics. And I'll stand by that until you present me some peer reviewed objective research on the matter from a reliable source.

[alex330]

There is a 1 million dollar prize offered by the James Randi Foundation for proof of any supernatural or psychic powers.
Thousands have applied and nobody has ever won.

[Boethius]

Science just isn't there, yet Ade.  There is a good book you should look at, though, The ESP Enigma.

Thousands have applied and nobody has ever won.

Not so certain it is thousands, because many of those who applied were mentally ill.  As a result, the foundation changed its protocol six years ago.

http://www.rense.com/general50/james.htm
 
BTW, do you remember James Randi was all over the place years ago?  That "challenge" was to get lots of free air time for his organization.  But, he disappeared, mostly, from the airwaves after being accused by an underaged boy of trying to seduce the boy.  Initially, Randi denied it.  But then, tapes of inappropriate conversations between Randi and underaged boys started appearing.  At the time, Randi claimed they were fake, that his "enemies" had made the tapes.  He later shifted his explanation to "It was a joke.", and finally, that he made the tapes at the request of the police.  So, I can't give to much credence to the statements of a lying pedophile.
 

[Ade]

Science just isn't there, yet Ade.  There is a good book you should look at, though, The ESP Enigma.

Whether science is there yet or not is irrelevant. The fact that no psychic has yet been able to perform their trick while being observed in a controlled environment isn't.

[Vasilisa]

That was an interesting story, thank you for posting.
As for the blood test I don't see anything bad about it at all. We don't live in the world where people  get married at 15 being virgins and have one sexual partner till they die. I'd do the same and expect that from my boy friend if our reationship are getting serious.

[Muzh]

Well, before we do that, just make sure we're on the same page, much less DNA, so here's 30 checklist items and let me know if this is *you* as they are *me*.

LMFAO
 
Here's a few I found:
 
"His personality is so magnetic, he is unable to carry credit cards."
"He can share inside jokes with people he just met."
"He wouldn't be afraid to show his femenine side..., if he had one."
"His mother has a tatoo that reads "Son."
"At museums, he's allowed to touch the art."
"He once challenged his own reflection to a staring contest. On the fourth day, he won."
"People hang on his very words, even the prepositions."
"His charm is so contagious, vaccines have been created for it."
"He is the only man to ever ace the Rorschach test."
"Every time he goes for a swim, dolphins appear."
"Alien abductors have asked him to probe them."
"If he were to give you directions, you'd never get lost. And you'd arrive at least 5 minutes early."
"His legend precedes him, the way lightning precedes thunder."
"It is true that he owns three sports cars, and drives five."
"He graduated college before the 7th grade."
"He taught a penguin how to fly."
"He doesnt blink when he sneezes."
"He can rhyme purple with orange.

[Gator]

There is a 1 million dollar prize offered by the James Randi Foundation for proof of any supernatural or psychic powers.
Thousands have applied and nobody has ever won.

Excellent point. 
 
When Boethius and Ade were discussing this, I was not limiting it to paranormal, supernatural and pseuoscientitific phenomena.  If limited to the psychic, I would be more in Ade's camp. 
 
Yet there are more inexplicable phenomena other the psychic.  For example, where does miraculous recovery from cancer belong?  I met one UW who definitely believed in miracle healing.

[Belvis]

The fact that no psychic has yet been able to perform their trick while being observed in a controlled environment isn't.

In physics there is  so called observer effect, i.e.  the act of observation will change the phenomenon being observed. 

[missAmeno]

Excellent point. 
 
When Boethius and Ade were discussing this, I was not limiting it to paranormal, supernatural and pseuoscientitific phenomena.  If limited to the psychic, I would be more in Ade's camp. 
 
Yet there are more inexplicable phenomena other the psychic.  For example, where does miraculous recovery from cancer belong?  I met one UW who definitely believed in miracle healing.

Oh now I am curious in what category would apply experience of seeing something that person physically was not able to see?

[Boethius]

Whether science is there yet or not is irrelevant. The fact that no psychic has yet been able to perform their trick while being observed in a controlled environment isn't.

No one's been able to prove love while being observed in a controlled environment either, but I don't assume it doesn't exist.

[Daveman]

No one's been able to prove love while being observed in a controlled environment either, but I don't assume it doesn't exist.

Where does love actually exist?  Is it not the same place which houses both Santa Claus and God? 


I think the mind transforms energy.. thoughts *are* a form of energy.  Now, the power (for lack of a better word) which could be focused, manipulated, etc. is potentially enormous. 


Weird manifestations occur all around us.. such as women who spend time together tend to align their cycles.. what causes that? is that from a period (you figure out if the pun was intended) where being ostracized alone for days was truly dangerous?  I mean really, what sane animal would attack such a cluster?  The males of whatever species would psychically know better; the females would empathize.


I guess I'm kinda a paranormal agnostic.  I don't really deny the possibility of most things (Santa Lives!), but I don't embrace them either. 

[OlgaH]

Where does love actually exist?  Is it not the same place which houses both Santa Claus and God? 

Dave, it is so simple as children would say 

http://www.religioustolerance.org/love_is.htm

Rebecca- age 8: "When my grandmother got arthritis, she couldn't bend over and paint her toenails anymore. So my grandfather does it for her all the time, even when his hands got arthritis too. That's love."

Chrissie - age 6: "Love is when you go out to eat and give somebody most of your French fries without making them give you any of theirs."

Elaine-age 5: "Love is when Mummy sees Daddy smelly and sweaty and still says he is handsomer than Robert Redford."

Tommy - age 6: "Love is like a little old woman and a little old man who are still friends even after they know each other so well."

[Ade]

No one's been able to prove love while being observed in a controlled environment either, but I don't assume it doesn't exist.

Actually, I think they have documented physical evidence of changes in the brain when people are experiencing romantic love. That's a damn sight more than anyone has ever gone to prove the existence of any psychic phenomena.

In physics there is  so called observer effect, i.e.  the act of observation will change the phenomenon being observed. 

Yes, but an effect occurring at the quantum level does not necessarily translate well or directly to the macroscopic scale. If they did, it would be an even weirder world than it is. In mediocre terms, it's just an excuse used by many a con artist to get around the fact they can't do what they promised and usually goes well with, "woah, that's never happened before", and "it worked earlier" as well as, "it was really this big, but it got away, honest".

Yet there are more inexplicable phenomena other the psychic.  For example, where does miraculous recovery from cancer belong?  I met one UW who definitely believed in miracle healing.

It has nothing to do with miracles or faith healing. These spontaneous remissions happen all the time. I would suggest they happen more than people know because a lot of people never get sick enough to be diagnosed before their cancers go into remission. If anything is "miraculous" it's our immune system and how amazing it is at keeping us healthy. Psychic healing does not work in precisely the same way that homoeopathy doesn't and, conversely, it works when it does for exactly the same reasons and those are gullibility and the placebo response.

[Handycam72]

That was an interesting story, thank you for posting.
As for the blood test I don't see anything bad about it at all. We don't live in the world where people get married at 15 being virgins and have one sexual partner till they die. I'd do the same and expect that from my boy friend if our reationship are getting serious.

 
If the blood test was for STDs, I could understand that one...but it wasn't. It was because I drink beer occasionally and she believed I had a yeast infection from beer due to having a couple of small skin tags on my face which I said I was going to have removed.