FSU-Women & FemDom?

[tsr1959]

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What is it that you have not been able to find locally that drives you to FSU?  I find that rather odd.

I worked from 1989 to 1991 in Budapest - the iron curtain was away only few month and I met a lot of FSU-women.

Which the less possibilities they had, each of them was presenting herself as "Queen". Totally opposite to the mainstream of the women in Germany and Austria.

I was in relations with women from Middle Europe as well as from foreign countries (like China, Hungary, USA) - but the FSU-women met my imagination at best.

[Lily]

BTW - how independent is a woman, which is relocating in a foreign country for a marriage (or LTR leading to m.) in general?

My take would be that she should be pretty independent in order to be able to face such a drastic change. The fact that she does this for the man is helpful, but in a number of instances she will have to confront the reality on her own, without his assistance.

[Belvis]

Do you believe, that FSU-Women would like such a offer or is that an insult?   

I think FSUW would feel embarrassed hearing the offer, not   insulted. Not many of them know about BDSM. BDSM elements are exploited in russian movies, mainly in humour way, so it would be hard for her to accept it seriously.
   I heard about one woman from Moscow who was converted in domina by her occasional German friend, but the odds are against you if you're not searching at thematic sites. Besides scammers may get some advantage in this type of complicated relationship.

[mies]

Which the less possibilities they had, each of them was presenting herself as "Queen".

you need to meet my mom. Dad often complaints that she presents herself as a "Queen" and that she is too domineering. Her domineering is a mind-boggling experience. It blows my mind completely every time we meet. And she is same age as you are. 

On a second thought.. nah.. she is happily married already.

[Ranetka]

I´m nearly 50 years in BDSM - have never need one...

Can I ask how old are you?

[Olly]

Can I ask how old are you?

Yes I am interested too 

[ML]

Are you ladies interested in his age, because you are interested in him;

or are you readying an attack?

[Ranetka]

Are you ladies interested in his age, because you are interested in him;

or are you readying an attack?

We are just curious.

[mies]

if 1959 is his yob, he is likely 53 now. Which means he started having experience with FemDom at the early age of 3. on the other hand, maybe 1959 is just a randomly selected number. Or maybe it's a year when he came out of the closet.

[noelscot]

Last days I lurked around and used some searches for, but not many threads did contain discussions about FSU-Women & FemDom (in which I´m interested....    ).

Most the opinion was present, that FSU-Women are more into "strong" men, which are the heads of family.

OK - but my experiences shows me, that I´ve met a Ukrainian girl 7 years before in RL which lived 5 years in Austria and she showed all signs of a FemDom. I asked her frankly on first evening - she was surprised, told me that she is not experienced with but very interested. Unfortunately our both life surroundings did not really fit at this time.

On Lavaplace I came some times in contact with women, which I would not classify as scammer - skype, phone & more - everything was possible and never I was asked for money or other support. The problem was always, that I don´t really have a settled life - not less money, just restless & busy and very in my businesses. In confrontation with my BDSM-affinities around 70% was open minded for and with some I had nice chat evenings....   

So I do not think it will be difficult to find a woman which is interested in FemDom again.

I stopped last year with my search, but now I´m starting again. With an change in my paradigm concerning my work. I want to involve a Lady as my "Head Mistress" (unofficial *g*) in my company. Official as "personal consultant" resp. "personal coach" for me. So she is paid with her own salary and can accompany me on all business travels and events too.

She don´t leave her financial independence (can save the earned money fully, because I´m paying naturally for our common life), feels that she is important and needed. She is involved in decisions and that can make it easier for her in her FemDom-role.

On the other hand she can, if the necessary skills for an open position are given, develop in the company on other ways too.

Do you believe, that FSU-Women would like such a offer or is that an insult?

 
   

Here she is, dude:
 

 
 

[Olly]

Are you ladies interested in his age, because you are interested in him;

or are you readying an attack?

Yes i interested, because of that:

if 1959 is his yob, he is likely 53 now. Which means he started having experience with FemDom at the early age of 3. on the other hand, maybe 1959 is just a randomly selected number. Or maybe it's a year when he came out of the closet.

[tsr1959]

I´m 53 years old (1959) and reflecting myself I can say, that desires, which can clearly dedicated to BDSM (dominance/submission), began in kinder garden.

And I tried always to play games with such components.

If you think around you will find a lot in your own life too - but not directly recognized by you!

But with these games I developed and with approx. 12 years first "typical" sado-maso practices need to be explored...  *g*

Hope your curiosity is feed now....   

[Olly]

Hope your curiosity is feed now....   

Yes, thank you 

[Faux Pas]

if 1959 is his yob, he is likely 53 now. Which means he started having experience with FemDom at the early age of 3. on the other hand, maybe 1959 is just a randomly selected number. Or maybe it's a year when he came out of the closet.

Might have been the first time he got kicked in the nuts 

[Olly]

Might have been the first time he got kicked in the nuts 

I think it isn't polite. He doesn't ask to discuss his own life and reasons of his addictions.

[tsr1959]

I think it isn't polite. He doesn't ask to discuss his own life and reasons of his addictions.

   Thank you - right seen! 

[Faux Pas]

I think it isn't polite. He doesn't ask to discuss his own life and reasons of his addictions.

You're right it's not but, it is pretty funny  This is a forum for the purpose of discussion and this question was asked. The fact that FemDom is being discuss in this manner and here on this forum I find quite humorous.

 

[Ranetka]

To the OP.


You offer a salary in exchange of services. IMHO, you should be looking for a professional or semi-professional.
If one is honestly looking for marriage, offer of being a kept woman is not attractive, femdom or not.




Out of curiosity, why FSU? Is it an accent thing?

[mies]

You offer a salary in exchange of services. IMHO, you should be looking for a professional or semi-professional.
If one is honestly looking for marriage, offer of being a kept woman is not attractive, femdom or not.

Agree with this fully. Although, in some acute cases, the person who is "kept" may not view it that way, or may not realize that she is kept. She may view it as she only receives (money, attention, job, etc) what she is entitled for. For example, it may elude her attention that she gets paid for her *services* but rather she will think that she got a job, and salary, and a .. well, a guy who is eager to do anything for her, - because she is so freaking awesome. Mind is a curious mechanism. Sometimes irrational and illogical.

[Ranetka]

Agree with this fully. Although, in some acute cases, the person who is "kept" may not view it that way, or may not realize that she is kept. She may view it as she only receives (money, attention, job, etc) what she is entitled for. For example, it may elude her attention that she gets paid for her *services* but rather she will think that she got a job, and salary, and a .. well, a guy who is eager to do anything for her, - because she is so freaking awesome. Mind is a curious mechanism. Sometimes irrational and illogical.

There are lots of women on dating sites who are in fact professionals or will be happy and expecting to be "kept". My point is OP in fact is looking for Domme escort, so why to bother with dating site at all?

[mies]

There are lots of women on dating sites who are in fact professionals or will be happy and expecting to be "kept". My point is OP in fact is looking for Domme escort, so why to bother with dating site at all?

 my guess is that he wants to find the "natural" D. Not the one who does it for money, but the one who is that way, who does it because she enjoys it and because this is the "role" she feels most comfortable in. As in almost everything, the best experience and result is achieved when you are dealing with the person who is both naturally talented/predisposed and experienced/skilled. But again, I'm just hypothesizing here, and maybe the OP has different motives. Probably for him it's easier to be on terms with scenario of helping the woman with whom he has a "click" rather than bringing a prostitute to his company. It is quite possible that some women with unusual tastes go to escort service because it's harder for them to find matches among average population pool. At the same time, probably more common is the reverse situation, when escort service workers are  increasing the variety in their "product/service line" in attempt to capture greater customer base. And generally speaking, it is less damaging/risky to be a Dom than to be a Sub, imho.

[Eduard]

You can find anything at all on Russian sites if you look long enough. Just came across this personals ad (sorry don't have the time to translate it now):

Запись от 17.08.12 18:17

  Генг Бенг Вечеринка - любимая тема для встречи.
Татьяна 26 лет БИ. ...Сергей 36 ГЕТЕРО.
Хотим найти приятных людей для которых секс - это не самоцель, а продолжение общения. С которыми приятно и в сауну сходить. ...и отдохнуть душой и телом. Говорим сразу - спермотаксикоз не лечим !
Варианты встреч:
1. С девушкой ЖМЖ или ЖЖ
2. С парнем МЖМ, если очень понравится Татьяне.
3 Фотосессия с Татьяной без секса.
4. С парами МЖМЖ - девушка в паре может быть и моложе 30 лет. ...
5. ГЕНГ БЕНГ. ...оговаривается отдельно. Организуйте. ...и пригласите.
По поводу парней - реально оценивайте свои возможности. на вопрос СКОЛЬКО ? отвечаю - даже не пытайтесь ! И будьте пооригинальнее - сделайте предложение от которого я не смогу отказаться.
Кто из парней может НЕ ПИСАТЬ :
1. Парни с отсутствием интеллекта на лице - дибилоиды.
2. Не русские
3. Работающие охранниками, грузчиками и пр хрень
4. Младше 30 и старше 40 лет
5. Не москвичи в т.ч. и командировочные.
6 С пивными животами - на дух не переношу
7. Письма у кого начинаются
- подмигиваниями
- привет
- как дела
- встретимся ?
- посмотри на мой член
- я тебя хочу
- и все в этом духе
8. Анкеты без фото ( высылать не надо )
9 Бороды и усы не люблю
10. Би парни и геи         

[ML]

Agree with this fully. Although, in some acute cases, the person who is "kept" may not view it that way, or may not realize that she is kept. She may view it as she only receives (money, attention, job, etc) what she is entitled for. For example, it may elude her attention that she gets paid for her *services* but rather she will think that she got a job, and salary, and a .. well, a guy who is eager to do anything for her, - because she is so freaking awesome. Mind is a curious mechanism. Sometimes irrational and illogical.

Quite aside from the Dom idea . . . doesn't your description fit very well many 'traditional' long-term and married situations?

The 'entitlement' idea that has been discussed here previously.

And, as you note, the mind can provide the reasoning that such is perfectly OK, or that what the person is doing is not, in fact, acting in an entitlement manner.

[mies]

Quite aside from the Dom idea . . . doesn't your description fit very well many 'traditional' long-term and married situations?

The 'entitlement' idea that has been discussed here previously.

And, as you note, the mind can provide the reasoning that such is perfectly OK, or that what the person is doing is not, in fact, acting in an entitlement manner.

In a way, yes. Most of the MOB RW are "princesses" who believe they are entitled to meet their Prince Charming, but not all of them are "queens." Princess will whimper "next morning:" "my bed was so uncomfortable," the Queen will make her western husband whimper if she doesn't get what she wants. Here I am talking purely about psychological profiles, not sex plays. 

Sometimes women can take "dual" roles with different men. At the "russian brides" forum somewhere on the web there was a post recently from a woman who is married to the AM, for many years (10+). The AM took care of her and her son, raised her son as his own, now the son graduated from college and left their home. And woman cannot decide whether she should leave her husband or stay with him. According to her, her husband is a "hamster" - brings "goods"/income/everything home, and is meek and harmless. He also knows that he does not "deserve" the perfect woman like his wife, and worships her. This is why she chose him - because he does anything she wants and gave her everything she asked for, including college tuition for her son. She also has a long-term lover, who has 6 records of assault, battery, and assault with a deadly weapon. According to her - sex with him is unreal, and he wants to marry her and asks her to divorce her husband. But she likes the financial security of her marriage, and feels somewhat attached and grateful to her "hamster husband."
I hope this "hamster husband" is not one of our forum members. Otherwise I feel truly sorry for him, how he's being used by woman he probably loves. Maybe he even naively thinks "we passed the 10 year mark! She definitely loves me and isn't scamming me! We passed 13-year mark! Our marriage is a blessing!" (

[ML]

I hope this "hamster husband" is not one of our forum members. Otherwise I feel truly sorry for him, how he's being used by woman he probably loves. Maybe he even naively thinks "we passed the 10 year mark! She definitely loves me and isn't scamming me! We passed 13-year mark! Our marriage is a blessing!" (

The husband is not; but the woman is a member of this forum who hasn't posted for quite a while.