Do Average Guy stand a chance in MOB

[viny1984]

Hi Guys,

I am a newbie who wishes to test the water of MOB. Now as most of newbie’s have some concerns so let me give you some brief about self.

I am 29 Year old guy from Australia who was born and brought up in strict and conservative environment in India due to which I could never develop skill to attract women. Situation is so bad that in 29 years I have dated just once despite being highly educated and financially well-off.

Now for obvious reasons I want to try the MOB, I would like to given my history with women and I not being from Caucasian (being India) do I stand a chance.  Also, how does Australia rank is Eastern European women’s priorities via-a-via US, UK and Canada.

Also, do you recommend I directly take a tour (as recommended by few) or create an online profile and start nitrating with girls online?

All replies shall be appreciated.
Regards,
Viny1984

[TheTraveler]

before embarking on this journey, i recommend you get started with some local slumpbusters.

[newjason]

Hi Guys,

I am a newbie who wishes to test the water of MOB. Now as most of newbie’s have some concerns so let me give you some brief about self.

I am 29 Year old guy from Australia who was born and brought up in strict and conservative environment in India due to which I could never develop skill to attract women. Situation is so bad that in 29 years I have dated just once despite being highly educated and financially well-off.

Now for obvious reasons I want to try the MOB, I would like to given my history with women and I not being from Caucasian (being India) do I stand a chance.  Also, how does Australia rank is Eastern European women’s priorities via-a-via US, UK and Canada.

Also, do you recommend I directly take a tour (as recommended by few) or create an online profile and start nitrating with girls online?

All replies shall be appreciated.
Regards,
Viny1984

Hi Viny
If you can't attract women in your city, why will you attract women in the fsu?

No there is no obvious reason.  Please explain this obvious reason why you are so well suited for a MOB?

oh, and welcome...

[viny1984]

Hi Viny
If you can't attract women in your city, why will you attract women in the fsu?

No there is no obvious reason.  Please explain this obvious reason why you are so well suited for a MOB?

oh, and welcome...

Thanks for responding mate. I never said I am well suited. In fact this is the very premise of my asking this question.

The "Not So Obvious Reason" is my inexplicable failure to attract any good, bad or ugly females for companionship locally forcing me look beyond international boundaries.

In fact my exact question is given the fact I am not aesthetically blessed (only 5' 7'' tall and dark skinned) with little experience in romantic relationships do I stand a chance in FSU.

Hope this helps.

[newjason]

well Viny,
this may not be what you want to hear.
I think you already know the answer.
But i will tel you my opinion.

Understand that this FSU MOB route is like the the big leagues.
If you can't play in the minor leagues, and your averages are poor, you are not likely to have success ANYPLACE not just the FSU.

So, as of right now, from what you have described, I'd say you have a lot to learn first before you might be ready for the big leagues.
So don't give up hope yet. But don't go rushing over there either.

I think you will need to practice and develop some social skills and some character that will make you an attractive man that women will want to be with.

The Traveler  gave some great starting advice.

I don't want to embarrass you , but if the FSU is on your future , you will need to learn to be frank.

Do you know what an escort is?

Traveler said slumpbuster

it basicly means go out and get yourself some sex.
You are not going to be pick and choose here, just sex (with a female)  (human) lol
You may even consider a female companion who is on the payroll, who can help you develop your confidence and cure your fears and misconceptions about women.  Kinda like a life  and sex tutor..

Do you have any friends at all?

Have the guys take you out and ask some girls who catch your eye if they would like to have a cup of tea and  vegemite toast
I am serious.
She might say no, but if you can make her laugh, that is a start. just keep asking other women, if one says  no, then  move on to the next.

[newjason]

there are a  few members here from down unda who will probabbly  be along to chime in too.  I/O and anotherkiwi  I can guess may have similar advice, but let's wait and see. 

BTW,  I know there are lots of girls in NZ who are very very  fine...

[Patagonie]

You are only 29, which in fact is young for getting married wiht a FSU women.
Your first goal is to meet women, have fun, party, and get acquainted with them.
In few years it will be time to think marriage and you will have the right age.
I would advice you to enter in the PUA world and make a workshop as soon as possible.

If you don't know how to drive a car, why do you want to have one ? This is not very elegant but it gives you a clue.

[CDW]

Viny

I have never seen any FSU women with any Indian, but it doesn't mean they do not like being with Indian men.  If your confidence is low, then it will be much harder for you to find one.

You need to Hit Em' For Six!  You need to be as confidence as 'Virat Kohli' in the circketing world.

Confidence is one of the key factors to be in a successful relationships especially with FSU.

[Belvis]

just keep asking other women, if one says  no, then  move on to the next.

Jason, your advice sounds good. I have recalled immediately the russian anecdote about  poruchik Rzhevsky.
________________________________________________

Kniaz Andrei  asks Rzhevsky:
- Tell me, poruchik, how did you come to be so good with the ladies? What is your secret they fall in love with you so quickly?
- It's quite simple, mon Prince. I just come over and say: 'Madame, would you like to f$ck?'
- But poruchik, you'll get slapped in the face for that!
- Oui, 9 of them slap, but 10th will f$ck.
________________________________________________

[Shadow]

What are your good points ? Your age is a plus, and you say that your finances are in order.
You did not mention yet if you have the possibility to travel, or if you are actually used to travel and make your own arrangements doing so. On this would depend your next step.
If you are used to make your own travel arrangments, use the various dating sites. If not, first get a hang for traveling, if possible by a tour.

Now we get to the more troublesome parts. Your looks and inexperience with women. As for your looks, I do know a Russian woman married to a Pakistani man, and their looks are pretty close. So you will probably find someone interested in you.
This leaves the major concern : inexperience. I understand the Indian culture, and know that in many cases the parents make the choice, which somehow in your case seems to have gone haywire. The inexperience is in general not su much of a problem (you can catch up pretty fast I am sure), but your mindset is.
You have to use your intellect to figure out which women are really interested in you as life partner, and which are more interested in having a good time on your wallet. As you need experience for this, you will either have to be really lucky, or expect to make some (probably costly) mistakes.
You are young enough to make mistakes, if you have the finances and the spare time to travel nothing should stop you.
But as you are inexperienced, do not limit yourself to the FSU. You might try to notice that local girl who smiles when she sees you more than to other customers, or someone anywhere else in the world.

[Anotherkiwi]

there are a  few members here from down unda who will probabbly  be along to chime in too.  I/O and anotherkiwi  I can guess may have similar advice, but let's wait and see. 

BTW,  I know there are lots of girls in NZ who are very very  fine...

True...and yet I'm also looking to the FSU 

[Anotherkiwi]

Thanks for responding mate. I never said I am well suited. In fact this is the very premise of my asking this question.

The "Not So Obvious Reason" is my inexplicable failure to attract any good, bad or ugly females for companionship locally forcing me look beyond international boundaries.

In fact my exact question is given the fact I am not aesthetically blessed (only 5' 7'' tall and dark skinned) with little experience in romantic relationships do I stand a chance in FSU.

Hope this helps.

First,    Viny - hopefully you won't be too discouraged by the response so far (and those you're likely to get when the North American members wake up!).
 
Firstly, I don't think height should be too much of a worry - while there are many FSUW taller than you, there are many more who are shorter.  In my limited experience most seem to be happy enough if the guy is taller than them, and some are quite happy to be with someone who is shorter than they are (I had one date with an FSUW quite a bit taller than me, and it was quite interesting for both of us).
 
However, your colour is going to be the difficult part.  Everyone on here will tell you stories of how they know an FSUW, or a friend of a friend, who is married to an Indian/Pakistani/Sri Lankan/Egyptian etc.  While these stories may be true, this is very much the exception.  The average FSUW wants to marry somebody "European" (i.e. WHITE), and you will see this in the vast majority of women's profiles on any marriage or dating site.  So, while your chance of success is possible, realistically it is miniscule.  Unfortunately most women will not bother looking past the photo to find out anything about you - it may be shallow, but it's a fact of life.  Heck, men are just the same when they look at photos of women on these sites!
 
Even though you seem to have struck out so far in Australia, I honestly think you would have a far better chance of success there, or here in New Zealand.  I live in a neighbourhood with a very strong Indian presence, and I know several Indian/white couples in Auckland, so I don't see why you can't go looking in that direction if you find that your local Indian community doesn't have anyone that you would consider dating.  As for the being unable to attract even someone who looks like the back end of a bus, how hard have you tried?  Did your parents try to arrange a marriage for you with somebody who was totally repellent?  It sounds like your background has got you so tied up in knots that you're scared to even ask - if that's true, then don't even think about the FSU!
 
Whatever you decide - good luck!

[Globetrotter]

Sure.........difficult, but possible.  You have been given advice to "get some experience" which is good advice.  To know yourself, and to have self confidence is key!!!  If you don't have this, you are "pissing up a rope". 
 
I think you might ask yourself as to what you want.  If you think these FSU women are easy women to know, or understand, you would be wrong.  Even Phillipinos or Chinese or South Americans...lookout, if you think this way.
 
Why not look in India?  Some of the prettiest girls I have ever seen were in India.  I think if you stay close to your heratige, and what you know, and your religion, food, etc.,  you are better off.
 
I have been in many relationships in the last 10 years and traveled to more than 50 countries and every continent over the past 30 years.  Different than you, I am half Slavic (Polish) and some German, and Irish (an average American).
 
When you cross so many cultures, languages and cultural ties, the risks increase.
 
I agree with other posters as to "getting some experience" even if you must pay for it.!  There are many FSU girls who post here, and maybe they will also give you advice.
 
Good thing is you are very young....and at the end of the day, you know best...but if I were you, I would look in India for long term success....but again, you know best!
 
 
 
 
 

[Daveman]

Guys,  the irony here is rather humorous...


On the one hand, a member was blasted into oblivion taken to task for allegedly being part of certain industry, and yet now it seems that partaking of the fruits of that very industry is being recommended as a possible solution..


so let's make it official, RWD's Official Position neither condones nor recommends any member participate in any activity which is illegal.


Daveman's personal official position - this is just too funny.

[Shadow]

so let's make it official, RWD's Official Position neither condones nor recommends any member participate in any activity which is illegal.


Daveman's personal official position - this is just too funny.

Now I am getting in to a problem with this.
You are using the word 'illegal', however the question is how to define this.

Prostitution is legal where I live, so is personal use of certain softdrugs.
Does that mean I can recommend it, but you can not ?

TBH I recommend neither to anyone, but that is besides the point...
 

[CanadaMan]

Guys,  the irony here is rather humorous...


... so let's make it official, RWD's Official Position neither condones nor recommends any member participate in any activity which is illegal.


Daveman's personal official position - this is just too funny.

Daveman I think you over-reacted on this one.

There are many ways to procure sex with money.
Many are not illegal.

Also, the work that our fellow poster was/is doing was/is not illegal. Possibly immoral, but not illegal.

[Daveman]

Now I am getting in to a problem with this.
You are using the word 'illegal', however the question is how to define this.

Prostitution is legal where I live, so is personal use of certain softdrugs.
Does that mean I can recommend it, but you can not ?

TBH I recommend neither to anyone, but that is besides the point...
 

Excellent question.  To which I'd have to answer with something along the lines of "anyone should use his/her best judgment on what is posted on a forum and with the advice, if any, that he/she chooses to take"   

[Daveman]

Daveman I think you over-reacted on this one.

There are many ways to procure sex with money.
Many are not illegal.

Also, the work that our fellow poster was/is doing was/is not illegal. Possibly immoral, but not illegal.

Not really an "official" reaction but more or less something I personally found just ironically funny..     

[Globetrotter]

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Dave...........what you sayin?  He's OK no matter what advice he gets, which I think is wonderful!
 
PS:  If a certain poster comes gunning for me, is it OK if I reply if I am polite, and not personal?  If not, I don't want to post here anymore.  You know best!
 
 
 
 
 

[Daveman]

Dave...........what you sayin?  He's OK no matter what advice he gets, which I think is wonderful!
 
PS:  If a certain poster comes gunning for me, is it OK if I reply if I am polite, and not personal?  If not, I don't want to post here anymore.  You know best!

I am simply saying that it's funny... nothing more nor less.. relax... 

[Eduard]

Hi Viny,
I think that there is a woman for every man on this planet and FSU is one of the easier places to find one. I've worked with Indian guys before and although it took about twice the time and the effort compared to Caucasian men they were able to find a match in the FSU. One thing you probably want to avoid is MOB industry. Look outside of it and you can find your match, granted you have realistic expectations.
Good luck!
Ed

[Chicagoguy]

I never thought I would say this but if you have extra money and time you might try a tour. Although you might never meet anyone special it might be interesting for you. A vacation that is different.  Sort of a way to see if you want to continue. BUT BE CAREFUL. There are some real schlock outfits in this game.
I have no experience with this but I have read good things about Jack Bragg. I imagine there are more.

[GoodOlBoy]

Viny1984 welcome to RWD. 
 
I have never been to Ukraine, but many times to Russia.
You didn't post your picture here, but if you are dark skinned, be careful about any plans to Russia.
There are elements living there that don't like people of color and aren't afraid to show it.
 
I remember reading something posted before by another member I respect. It went something like this: "Dating in the FSU is not a get of of jail free card for the inexperienced or the socially inept, actually quite the opposite."
 
If you are dating in Russia, you need "game" guy.
 
Best of luck no matter what you decide to do.
 
GOB

[ML]

. . . create an online profile and start nitrating with girls online?

WOW . . . is this word really used in this context in Australia?

I didn't know that the process of interacting with women was supposed to produce nitroglycerin or trinitrotoluene, etc.

[ML]

. . . forcing me look beyond international boundaries.

Beyond international ! ?

Are there hot Klingon gals?