How and where to find the AM who would like to live in Russia (or Europe)

[Vasilisa]

Eventually I'd like to go back to Russia, the problem is that I can't find the man who would like to live in Russia.
Also the question is what kind of work (except for teaching and working in the Russian offices of the Western firms) this person could do.
The risky point is that this man can be easily spoilt by the local RW after moving to Russia.

So, maybe some members can give some ideas or share their stories? 

[Eduard]

Eventually I'd like to go back to Russia, the problem is that I can't find the man who would like to live in Russia.
Also the question is what kind of work (except for teaching and working in the Russian offices of the Western firms) this person could do.
The risky point is that this man can be easily spoilt by the local RW after moving to Russia.

So, maybe some members can give some ideas or share their stories? 

Yes, this is always a possibility  Guess you'll have to keep him om the leash in Russia! 

[Vasilisa]

Yes, this is always a possibility  Guess you'll have to keep him om the leash in Russia! 

That was why I mentioned Europe as "Plan B"

[Slumba]

Why not look for a European man?  I mean, one that is already living in Europe. 

Unfortunately Italy and Spain are both having economic problems - but then again, you only need to find 1 man, not the entire nation 

[Vasilisa]

Why not look for a European man?  I mean, one that is already living in Europe. 

Because I am in the US and I don't believe in long-distance dating

[Slumba]

Because I am in the US and I don't believe in long-distance dating

It is OK if one of the people in a marriage, has the shock of living in a different culture. 

However, the shock of an American man moving with a Russian/slightly-American woman to Europe, would really be a difficult test for both of you. 

If you could find a guy who has already lived in another country (even Canada is different enough, from my experience) for a length of time, then the risk would be much less. 

Even someone who has worked just about anywhere outside the USA for a minimum of 6-9 months, would better understand what is involved, and, better able to deal with things during the adjustment period.

I have to admit, it sounds pretty interesting though!  Good luck...

[Jumper]

Eventually I'd like to go back to Russia, the problem is that I can't find the man who would like to live in Russia.
Also the question is what kind of work (except for teaching and working in the Russian offices of the Western firms) this person could do.
The risky point is that this man can be easily spoilt by the local RW after moving to Russia.

So, maybe some members can give some ideas or share their stories? 

It's an interesting side topic that a RW would think about this..


especially when so many men claim there is no difference in women or fundamentally dating within the two cultures.

[Eduard]

It's an interesting side topic that a RW would think about this..


especially when so many men claim there is no difference in women or fundamentally dating within the two cultures.

So many? How many? I only can think of 3 or 4 members here. Any one who has lived in both Russia and the US knows that there is just a slight little difference... maybe like 180 degrees?!?! But I have no stats on that, just life experience 

[Jumper]

  to be fair, i think it is the culture/situation that is mostly different?




as humans are more alike than not.


but the factors driving such a large difference seem worth looking into considering the nature of the forum.
Its been hashed a lot of times here, but mostly by men,and few who lived long term in both cultures.


I just find at amusing some men , fret, or muse , over  a RW relocating here will have more choices and opportunities in the dating/romance  world.


While a RW relocating a western man to Russia has the same  slight *worry*
and thats a pretty solid reality that he would be pursued.

[milesaweek]

I have posted lightly. I am the son of a father that has a direct and immediate interest in a RW, in small town near St. Petersburg. ( She is early 50's, and he is 60)

He will visit in March, 2013. I believe he is inclined to seriously consider staying in Russia ( as much as the visa requirements permit)

any general advice? I would love to consider and give to my father in small doses and make sure that he is considering everything. I will not have much persuasion, but only ask that he not be too surprised.

Thank you

[Eduard]

I have posted lightly. I am the son of a father that has a direct and immediate interest in a RW, in small town near St. Petersburg. ( She is early 50's, and he is 60)

He will visit in March, 2013. I believe he is inclined to seriously consider staying in Russia ( as much as the visa requirements permit)

any general advice? I would love to consider and give to my father in small doses and make sure that he is considering everything. I will not have much persuasion, but only ask that he not be too surprised.

Thank you

If the woman is genuine, kind and loving your dad will be very happy there. PLus St. Pete is an awesome city so they can visit often. She will love and cherish him and take care of him like hardly any AW would so you can consider you dad a very lucky fellow. If she is genuine... but at this age it's more likely that she is than not.

[Eduard]

to be fair, i think it is the culture/situation that is mostly different?

indeed!

as humans are more alike than not.

Indeed!

but the factors driving such a large difference seem worth looking into considering the nature of the forum.

You said it 

I just find at amusing some men , fret, or muse , over  a RW relocating here will have more choices and opportunities in the dating/romance  world. While a RW relocating a western man to Russia has the same  slight *worry*
and thats a pretty solid reality that he would be pursued.

Vasilisa has a good reason to worry, she lived in both countries and knows the real deal. Lucky for her though, many WM are not as spoiled by women's attention as the local RM. So they are nor as likely to stray or leave. But unlike here in the US they will have many opportunities and lots of temptarion all around them in Russia.

[milesaweek]

Ed,

You leave me hanging here!

what are some talking points with my father on issues of "genuineness" at this age?

Your other recommendations are noted on woma
Your thoughts?

[Eduard]

Ed,

You leave me hanging here!

what are some talking points with my father on issues of "genuineness" at this age?

Your other recommendations are noted on woma
Your thoughts?

Somehow he should figure out whether she sinceraly likes him as a man, has attraction and respect for him. The opposite of that would be a woman who is looking to improve her living conditions and to use a man in order to accomplish that. This can be any woman and not just a FSU woman. The only difference is that getting in a relationship with a FSU woman one has to deal with the language barrier / limited communication and cultural difference. But on the bright side, single Russian women of her age group practically have no options of local men so many of them would look at your dad as "God sent" and treat him accordingly. I'd say there is a good chance that he will be well taken care of and very happy.

[Misha]

Eventually I'd like to go back to Russia, the problem is that I can't find the man who would like to live in Russia.

Wouldn't it be easier to find a Russian man already living in Russia    Logically, best to move first and then look for a guy.

[ML]

I have posted lightly. I am the son of a father that has a direct and immediate interest in a RW, in small town near St. Petersburg. ( She is early 50's, and he is 60)

He will visit in March, 2013. I believe he is inclined to seriously consider staying in Russia ( as much as the visa requirements permit)

any general advice? I would love to consider and give to my father in small doses and make sure that he is considering everything. I will not have much persuasion, but only ask that he not be too surprised.

Thank you

Big drawback for retiree living anywhere outside USA . . . medicare does not cover any expenses.  So he will have paid into it for X years, and get no benefits, unless he visits back in USA, which will make for very expensive medical care.

[GQBlues]

I have posted lightly. I am the son of a father that has a direct and immediate interest in a RW, in small town near St. Petersburg. ( She is early 50's, and he is 60)

He will visit in March, 2013. I believe he is inclined to seriously consider staying in Russia ( as much as the visa requirements permit)

any general advice? I would love to consider and give to my father in small doses and make sure that he is considering everything. I will not have much persuasion, but only ask that he not be too surprised.

Thank you

My immediate response, at his age, is the weather and the darkness that surrounds the region during wintertime. Having said that, I don't know where he's from as he may well be from a snowbelt region, USA, Alaska even, but the fact places like Florida, Mexico, and other warm places are ideally the choice for many old folks (Canadians, too eh) sort of give one to pause about moving to a place like St Pete. Better he experiences this even once before making final arrangements.

Then couple that with the fact, even at the present time, Russia cannot *yet* be considered retiree-friendly.

[milesaweek]

Thanks for the pointers.

He is 60-medicare doesn't kick in until 65- have to check whether corporate retiree policy or usa gov't health care offers benefit.

My father is all Sunbelt. Northern latitudes are a problem ( to my mind); good point. maybe they will be snowbirds?

Hopefully he will be "God sent" and " God received"

Again, thank you!

[Eduard]

Thanks for the pointers.

He is 60-medicare doesn't kick in until 65- have to check whether corporate retiree policy or usa gov't health care offers benefit.

My father is all Sunbelt. Northern latitudes are a problem ( to my mind); good point. maybe they will be snowbirds?

Hopefully he will be "God sent" and " God received"

Again, thank you!

yes, St. Pete winters are going to be something to get used to if he is used to the warmer climate. But I'm sure his woman will keep him warm and comfy. If possible he should try to spend winters in Florida and summers in St. Pete, that would be perfect. He can even get a place in St. Pete Florida, so the transition is going to be very smooth, no confusion! 

[Chicagoguy]

My wife occasionaly mentions that I do this but I honestly believe I could not handle it.
However, I do know one American who lives in her hometown and has done this. He admits that he had fallen on hard times and this was his best out. Mainly needed cheaper living. He is married to a very nice retired MD and has his SS checks deposited to American bank and just goes to ATM machines in Russia.
They both seem very happy.

[Misha]

[size=78%]Also the question is what kind of work (except for teaching and working in the Russian offices of the Western firms) this person could do. [/size]

I did not reply to this question. Unless the guy works for an American company and can do all his from Russia (likely some kind of computing work), the answer is pretty much nothing. Other than teaching English or working as an expat for an international company in Russia, there really isn't much of a need for Americans employees who likely wouldn't speak any Russian...

[CDW]

Eventually I'd like to go back to Russia, the problem is that I can't find the man who would like to live in Russia.
Also the question is what kind of work (except for teaching and working in the Russian offices of the Western firms) this person could do.
The risky point is that this man can be easily spoilt by the local RW after moving to Russia.

So, maybe some members can give some ideas or share their stories? 

The most simplest logic for you is to find a Russian man !!!

[Darth_Budda]

What part of Russia are you going back to?

Seems to me that their "could" be some economic bright spots in the eastern part of the country for a American?

I think i read some were that the government was planing on investing to boost mineral production and such....
 

[Slumba]

What part of Russia are you going back to?

Seems to me that their "could" be some economic bright spots in the eastern part of the country for a American?

I think i read some were that the government was planing on investing to boost mineral production and such....

That is really a good point!  Provided Vasilisa finds a guy who works in drilling/mining or oilfield or natural gas production, it could work.  Like a guy with a degree in mining engineering.

I do not know how polished / kulturniy such guys are, however.  I doubt they know their zinfandel from their cabernet sauvignons...

[Eduard]

The most simplest logic for you is to find a Russian man !!!

I suspect that Vasilisa knows that her options of Russian men are going to be very limited.