From Heaven to Hell... with a broken heart.

[Shadow]

When will you quit stalking her ?

[mikeyUSA]

When will you quit stalking her ?

Budy,   at this time, I'm about one second away from writting her an "I know you freaking scammed me" email.  Im about ready to email her and tell her"You have 3 months to repay me" email.    i mean, I am just so pissed.    I look at her picture now, and see Evil Evil Evil.  No love.   She freakin scammed me to fly to another city and meet a man.  SCAMMMMMMMMM

[Shadow]

Budy,   at this time, I'm about one second away from writting her an "I know you freaking scammed me" email.  Im about ready to email her and tell her"You have 3 months to repay me" email.    i mean, I am just so pissed.    I look at her picture now, and see Evil Evil Evil.  No love.   She freakin scammed me to fly to another city and meet a man.  SCAMMMMMMMMM

And if she does not repay you what are you going to do? Fly to Russian and get arrested - if you are lucky?
She did not scam you, she took advantage of the fact that you have zero idea of when a woman tells you to get out of her life.

[mikeyUSA]

And if she does not repay you what are you going to do? Fly to Russian and get arrested - if you are lucky?
She did not scam you, she took advantage of the fact that you have zero idea of when a woman tells you to get out of her life.

Of course not. I'm going to take a couple days to cool down... realize that i was scammed.

[LAman]

Hi guys, I know I said I would not view her profile, but I did, and Im sorry.  Here is what she just posted on her profile.

Karembeu ... I fall in love.

Вот бывает, встретишь человека и чувствуешь – это тот, кого ты искал всю свою жизнь. А ему покер, он за хлебом идет.)) ахах
(translation: That's the case, find someone and feel - is the one you been looking for all my life. And he's poker, the bread is.)) Ahah).

..............  So basically,  I just paid to fly this women to another city to meet another guy. She freaking scammed me.  She met him, fell in love, and freaking scammed me.   Freaking scammed me.   I am sooo very angry with her right now for scamming me.

Scam???? She asked for money and you gave it to her......what did she promise you?????
You should be angry with yourself....no one to blame but yourself because you feel 'you did not get your money's worth'.  jeez!!! Your not healing....your just rolling around in mud.....

[mikeyUSA]

I am just so angry with myself, with her right now.  So very angry.   "And his poker, he goes for bread..."   I can only imagine what this means.

I am so very angry with myself, and also with her.  I will take a couple days to cool down.  Please please please bear with me. Please bear with me. 

[CDW]

..............  So basically,  I just paid to fly this women to another city to meet another guy. She freaking scammed me.  She met him, fell in love, and freaking scammed me.   Freaking scammed me.   I am sooo very angry with her right now for scamming me.

It is called prostitute!  You paid her to have sex with another man.   Are you sure you want to be with a prostitute?

[Shadow]

You are angry because a woman that you have finished a non-existent relationship with has found another person ?
If there is any love or even friendship you should be happy for her.

It is called prostitute!  You paid her to have sex with another man.

That is called a proxystute?

[CDW]

I thought you weren't going to send her money?

[LAman]

I am just so angry with myself, with her right now.  So very angry.   "And his poker, he goes for bread..."   I can only imagine what this means.

I am so very angry with myself, and also with her.  I will take a couple days to cool down.  Please please please bear with me. Please bear with me.

Mikey.....when one has issues with somthing, they need to get dealt with.....if not, then they turn into hurt and if they continue grow into anger.....and finally into hate, which is a rage spirals one's life. Deal with your issues.....they are a lot longer than just this RW.......she is just one of many.....get help, please....your life is worth it!!!!

[CDW]

The most important thing that you are not the only person who is a victim.  You have just inspired thousands of victims (future men).  You have made her easier to scam someone else in the future.  The next person will be as victim as you are - thanks to your so-called "generosity".

The more men will send money, the more easier scammers will become.

NO THANKS TO YOUR "GENEROSITY"

[LAman]

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[mikeyUSA]

I thought you weren't going to send her money?

No, I didn't send her more money.  This was two weeks ago, when she gave me the "Job oppurtunity scam".   I had my assumptions that I paid for her to visit another man, and it is now confirmed... and also, "she is in love"....   and "His poker, he goes for the bread".   I'm just so angry with everything right now. Again, please bear with me.

[Belvis]

Вот бывает, встретишь человека и чувствуешь – это тот, кого ты искал всю свою жизнь. А ему покер, он за хлебом идет.)) ахах
(translation: That's the case, find someone and feel - is the one you been looking for all my life. And he's poker, the bread is.)) Ahah).

Just to be accurate. Right translation:
It happens, you see a man and feel - he's the one you were looking for all your life. And he does not care about you, he's passing to buy a bread.

Budy,   at this time, I'm about one second away from writting her an "I know you freaking scammed me" email.  Im about ready to email her and tell her"You have 3 months to repay me" email.    i mean, I am just so pissed.    I look at her picture now, and see Evil Evil Evil.  No love.   She freakin scammed me to fly to another city and meet a man.  SCAMMMMMMMMM

 :-\I start to understand why she has decided to move on.

[mikeyUSA]

:-\I start to understand why she has decided to move on.

Yes, yes, i know...   I'm just hurt right now.  You know how emotions can be.  With any person, not just me.   

Of course I would not do such a thing.  I would never do such a horrible thing because I do understand in the back of my mind, it was truly my fault.   I just need to cool down, move on, and get over this.   And  you know what?  You guys are such a great help, and I truly do need you all to slap me around, becuase as soon as you guys did,  I felt better.  please bear with me.

[Patagonie]

The most important thing that you are not the only person who is a victim.  You have just inspired thousands of victims (future men).  You have made her easier to scam someone else in the future.  The next person will be as victim as you are - thanks to your so-called "generosity".

The more men will send money, the more easier scammers will become.

NO THANKS TO YOUR "GENEROSITY"

I agree with this post, my conviction after three years is that men are massively making scammers by their attitude (i don't speak about the mafia network which are dealing with everything to get money from you).

[Patagonie]

Mikey, you send this money or not, to her ? The price of a round trip flight ?

[Ranetka]

Just to be accurate. Right translation:
It happens, you see a man and feel - he's the one you were looking for all your life. And he does not care about you, he's passing to buy a bread.

 :-\I start to understand why she has decided to move on.

My variant of translation.......And he does not give a fukc (покер=похер), he's just passing by.

[ML]

My variant of translation.......And he does not give a fukc (покер=похер), he's just passing by.

OK, so she found the man she had been looking for . . . but he is not in love with her.  So she really doesn't have a new man.

Yes, she scammed Mike, but still didn't find her true love.

I think it classifies as scam because she just  didn't ask Mike for money.
She lied to him about the purpose of the money.
He thought he was helping her in her life to find a better job.

[Shadow]

OK, so she found the man she had been looking for . . . but he is not in love with her.  So she really doesn't have a new man.

Yes, she scammed Mike, but still didn't find her true love.

I think it classifies as scam because she just  didn't ask Mike for money.
She lied to him about the purpose of the money.
He thought he was helping her in her life to find a better job.

And if she found a job and is moving out of Kamchatka then he did.
If I was not married and would fly to Moscow for a job interview I would also not mind having a date on the side.

[ML]

The most important thing that you are not the only person who is a victim.  You have just inspired thousands of victims (future men).  You have made her easier to scam someone else in the future.  The next person will be as victim as you are - thanks to your so-called "generosity".

The more men will send money, the more easier scammers will become.

NO THANKS TO YOUR "GENEROSITY"

This is true and something I have been saying here for many moons.

And, related, is the idea of overpaying the FSU helpers.
Often here we hear men state (and even brag) that they paid extra to interpreters, helpers who find apartments, helpers in getting tickets, etc.

This sounds very noble until you realize that these helpers then decide to increase their prices to something which is out of line with what they can really earn in their local economy.

This then leads to hard feelings between these helpers and incoming foreigners (and even local persons), which leads to bad attitudes by the helpers, which then leads to a drop off in their future business, etc., etc.

Note:  Not saying that these helpers are scammers, but overpaying them leads to the same problems for the next persons that follow from men paying scammers.

[Ranetka]

OK, so she found the man she had been looking for . . . but he is not in love with her.  So she really doesn't have a new man.

Yes, she scammed Mike, but still didn't find her true love.

I think it classifies as scam because she just  didn't ask Mike for money.
She lied to him about the purpose of the money.
He thought he was helping her in her life to find a better job.

Can I just say that a single RWs life (esp un-employed and with a mouth to feed) does not necessary rotates around MOB dating life. She might have went for the  interview and we have no idea where and how she met this man. We don't really know, it's all his speculations.


Personally I think she used the last weapon available to get rid of a man - take him for an expensive shopping/ask for money. Agree it was not very pretty asking him for money. However having made my opinion about Mikey reading this thread - I can only imagine how "enjoyable" this whole experience was for her - think what you want of me - these $$$ were well and truly deserved.

[mikeyUSA]

Mikey, you send this money or not, to her ? The price of a round trip flight ?

To clarify, at 3 weeks after our trip, she asks for money for a trip for a 'job oppurutnity'.  This was ? 2 weeks ago?.   No, I have not given her anything else since. In fact, I have not even spoken to her in the last 1.5 weeks.

[Jumper]

RW....  again, through everyone here, and again, I started this thread with a heartbreak.... I learn, that I have been "mikeyed". Scammed so she could visit the 'other guy'.  Again, I have learned so much lately.      I am much more stronger now.     Yes, I am sure there were a lot more feeling for her, than her with me.  Yes, I understand that if her child needs money for a doctor, that I will not give it... and yes.....   as someone said tonight at my local pub "She told you, without telling you, that she met someone else, and she is finally moving out of her home town".

I am picking up the peceases, and you guys, out of anyone, have been the most help so far, so please, keep slapping me in the face.

no slap needed. you are doing just fine at it.


you fell in love with an image of *some* woman, not a specific woman,
and the first one that showed even slight interest you plugged into your dream/fantasy.
she ultimately dint live up to the unrealistic expectation. no one could have.
it isnt her fault,  its yours.


The money was all you as well, you had no solid relationship, by any stretch of the imagination and sent her money? if she lived in Miami,Dallas,  LA or NYC would you have done that?
if so- why?


what she did with the money is irrelevant considering you had no relationship.
Money you give to acquaintances ..what do you expect them to use it for? you cant give
 and have strings attached?


why did you even look at her profile?
she clearly told you it was over and to leave her alone.


you keep saying you have moved on and by every action you havnt at all.
dude get over her, it was a fling, it means nothing to her, and should mean nothing to you.
why you are even wanting closure is beyond me. its like you are intentionally trying t find something t be mad about so *you* can end it ,instead of her blowing you off?


Just forget it, and her.
It aint that hard,you are the only one making it that way.

[mikeyUSA]

Can I just say that a single RWs life (esp un-employed and with a mouth to feed) does not necessary rotates around MOB dating life. She might have went for the  interview and we have no idea where and how she met this man. We don't really know, it's all his speculations.


Personally I think she used the last weapon available to get rid of a man - take him for an expensive shopping/ask for money. Agree it was not very pretty asking him for money. However having made my opinion about Mikey reading this thread - I can only imagine how "enjoyable" this whole experience was for her - think what you want of me - these $$$ were well and truly deserved.

What is "MOB"?