Insight from Russian wife

[calmissile]

I would if I could, but it's blocked here on copyright grounds.

Sorry about that.  It works ok in the US.

[kennethsc]

My guess would be that the book for ladies should better be written by a man instead, provided that the topic would be how to select, to attract and to keep a man. Wrong?

Lily,
I don't know about anyone else but I intend to treat my wife like a queen. I'm on this forum to find out how to do that.
The fears of "sex slave" and stuff like that are well-founded in a few cases, one that I know of.
And the fears of American men of scammers and VAWA accusations are well-founded in some cases.
For a number of very valid, public reasons this accusation wouldn't work on me.
So I hope I can find a sweet spot in between.
I hope history will never label me as one of the "sorry bunch!"
Fact is, the really sorry bunch for me has been my own government which cannot get their stories straight or get everyone on the same page.
I could write a book about the stupidity I've seen.
I still have a lot of questions I haven't found the answers to yet.
I don't know whether to prepare for joy or disaster.
Thanks for your input.
You're a valuable resource and appreciated.
Kenneth
kennethschu@hotmail.com

[ECOCKS]

I would if I could, but it's blocked here on copyright grounds.

Blocked in Poland as well.

[Anotherkiwi]

Blocked in Poland as well.

Have you moved?  I thought you were still in Azerbaijan.

[ML]

Lily,
I don't know about anyone else but I intend to treat my wife like a queen.

Huge mistake.
Soon, she will be treating you like a servant/slave.

[kennethsc]

ML,
I'm 57 years old and I'm not a fool. I left someone I loved deeply because she tried that.
You assume too much.

[ML]

ML,
I'm 57 years old and I'm not a fool. I left someone I loved deeply because she tried that.
You assume too much.

Not assuming anything.

Treat a woman (man) as a queen (king), they will start treating you as slave/servant.

Now; to really assume something:

Assuming your treated your previous mate as queen, you got the slave/servant treatment in return that you referred to.

[kennethsc]

And that assumes all women are like that.

[GQBlues]

...I don't know about anyone else but I intend to treat my wife like a queen.

Likely saying you'd like to treat that special someone *accordingly* is the better way. Treating someone like a *queen*, LOL...good luck with that. Agree with ML.

....For a number of very valid, public reasons this accusation wouldn't work on me....

Yeah...Spitzer used to think like that.

...I hope history will never label me as one of the "sorry bunch!"
Fact is, the really sorry bunch for me has been my own government which cannot get their stories straight or get everyone on the same page...

Yup...so onward you go to seek a wife from land governed by a group of very honest politicians. Yes, indeedy!

...I could write a book about the stupidity I've seen...

I've just gotten some fresh material myself.

....I still have a lot of questions I haven't found the answers to yet.
I don't know whether to prepare for joy or disaster.....*his email addy here*

1. Lesson numero uno. Unless you don't mind getting royally spammed, I suggest you remove your email address. If you have the need to send it, do so in a PM.

[Faux Pas]

ML,
I'm 57 years old and I'm not a fool. I left someone I loved deeply because she tried that.
You assume too much.

Einstein said the definition of insanity is "doing the same thing over and over again yet, expecting different results"

[ECOCKS]

Have you moved?  I thought you were still in Azerbaijan.

Yes, just got to Poland one week ago. Spent a few days in Kyiv then on to Warsaw for some vacation and looking at where we will go next.

[Muzh]

ML,
I'm 57 years old and I'm not a fool. I left someone I loved deeply because she tried that.
You assume too much.

It seems you have to treat your RW like shit to get somewhere. It seems to be working for some.

[kennethsc]

muzh,
Nah, can't do that. Never been able to. And there is some wisdom to your words. Seen guys treat the sweetest girls like garbage and they were all over them! Go figure!

[mendeleyev]

Muzh, everyone knows that such things really depends on who takes the biggest bite out of the wedding bread!

Mrs M at our wedding at first took the biggest bite. Then she made me do it again as in her words (paraphrased) "I'm going to allow you to be the head of our home so you should to take a bigger bite."

I obeyed.

[Muzh]

Muzh, everyone knows that such things really depends on who takes the biggest bite out of the wedding bread!

Mrs M at our wedding at first took the biggest bite. Then she made me do it again as in her words (paraphrased) "I'm going to allow you to be the head of our home so you should to take a bigger bite."

I obeyed.

Get the fcuk outta here. Really?

The exact same thing happened to me and I have pictures to prove it.

Worked out great, didn't it? 

[jone]

Yeah, neither one of you are the heads of your homes.  Hehehehehehehe.

[mies]

An interesting point about communicating with the FSU women and giving them some assurance.

I had to spend three weeks assuring a woman that she would not be 'Taken to Germany and used as a sex slave' as was reported recently on Ukrainian television.  Apparently there was a lady who was interviewed.  She explained that the man had met her on a chat site, convinced her to marry him and gotten her to go to Germany.  Once there, she said that she was forced to perform sex for money and that her new husband was nothing more than a pimp.  She escaped and made her way back to Ukraine where she told her story.

Unfortunately, my American humor cut in and I made the mistake of teasing my woman with the (hilaraiously funny) idea that I was bringing her here to California to be a sex slave.  She didn't think that it was too funny.  I know this idea still circulates in the back of  her mind.

a good joke, bad moment to bring it up. When I heard jokes like that in the past (happened once or twice), I used to say "no, you will be my sex slave."

[Lily]

Lily,
I don't know about anyone else but I intend to treat my wife like a queen. I'm on this forum to find out how to do that.
   

May I ask you two questions:
- What do you mean by treating your wife like a queen?
- What is your own interest in treating your wife like a queen? What do you think you achieve, or try to achieve by this treatment?

[jone]

a good joke, bad moment to bring it up. When I heard jokes like that in the past (happened once or twice), I used to say "no, you will be my sex slave."

Damn, woman,

Where were you when I was looking??????

I look especially good in leather!

-j

[kennethsc]

May I ask you two questions:
- What do you mean by treating your wife like a queen?
- What is your own interest in treating your wife like a queen? What do you think you achieve, or try to achieve by this treatment?

Lily,
Interesting questions. Treat her with respect, which many men don't do today. If, as the bible says, "...the two become one flesh," why do many men today treat a part of them with such disrespect?
My own interest? The bible also tells us to "esteme others higher than ourselves" and I feel that if we both do this we will be happy. I think it's a good model for a happy marriage. My interest is to achieve her happiness!
I'm very interested in your in-put.
Kenneth








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[Lily]

In my eyes, the second question would be of more importance then the first one. Actually, I asked it in order to see what is basically a 'royal treatment' for someone, as I was not quite sure about the meaning. In my view, some FSU women may incidentally get it as a spoiling treatment, where one is a king and the other is slave. In the thread, people noticed that. Suggest not to use this term with the FSU people.
Treating with disrespect is not a contrary for the royal treatment, you know. These are just two different things that are seen on completely different types of people. You should not even think of disrespectful people, you are not related to them. If I correctly understand you, treating life a queen basically equals to a normal treatment. Right? If it is, just forget it an don't use the term.

[mies]

Where were you when I was looking??????

most likely, married 

[kennethsc]

In my eyes, the second question would be of more importance then the first one. Actually, I asked it in order to see what is basically a 'royal treatment' for someone, as I was not quite sure about the meaning. In my view, some FSU women may incidentally get it as a spoiling treatment, where one is a king and the other is slave. In the thread, people noticed that. Suggest not to use this term with the FSU people.
Treating with disrespect is not a contrary for the royal treatment, you know. These are just two different things that are seen on completely different types of people. You should not even think of disrespectful people, you are not related to them. If I correctly understand you, treating life a queen basically equals to a normal treatment. Right? If it is, just forget it an don't use the term.

Lily, Thanks. I have a friend from the Ukraine who worked at the bank. Very intelligent, beautiful and hard-working. Her ex-husband treated her like a house maid with "benefits" that he bought and paid for. Such a stupid man! I understand from some these forums that this happens frequently.

[Faux Pas]

Lily, Thanks. I have a friend from the Ukraine who worked at the bank. Very intelligent, beautiful and hard-working. Her ex-husband treated her like a house maid with "benefits" that he bought and paid for. Such a stupid man! I understand from some these forums that this happens frequently.

It works both ways

[ML]

Treat her with respect, which many men don't do today. If, as the bible says, "...the two become one flesh," why do many men today treat a part of them with such disrespect?  The bible also tells us to "esteem others higher than ourselves" and I feel that if we both do this we will be happy.  My interest is to achieve her happiness!

OK, when you put it in these terms, it is  the same as I do.  But no Queen aspect involved.

So, as Lily stated, get rid of the Queen word.
And the women are no slouches when it comes to treating men in general and significant others with disrespect, as you can witness right on this board.

In your first posts, you came across as a 'pedestal builder,' which we have already met our quota for.  Perhaps it is not true in your case;  but rather some mis-intended  words.

Best to you.