Interviews from 3 KhersonGirls ladies

[LAman]

It's a no-brainer - the one with the biggest boobs of course!

Pitbull...is that standing up or laying down???

[knighta]

Legs cannot be fixed.

Not true.

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/york-man-grows-inches-surgery/story?id=15776730#.UNvkAXcgSf4

[CDW]

You don't need Einstein to figure out who Lady A, B, C are lol

[CDW]

This happens all the time with my guys. The one they think is going to be "the one" turns out to be different in person or some issues come up when we meet. But one of the "back up plan" girls turns out to be awesome... you just never know until you spend some time together.

What if all these 3 girls turned out to be awesome ???  I hate to choose !!!

[CDW]

3 women are not  enough  because you could bomb out with all three and have several days to watch TV in your room.

If the "KhersonGirls" were in Kiev, I would be happy for a 3-day trip, but in Kherson, long way for just 3 day trip!!

When I find the lady, I hope 3rd (maybe 2nd meeting) will be in Kiev, or maybe in Odessa where I can cut down hours in travelling.  If the lady wants "taxi" trip to Kiev from Kherson and back, then I will drop her too.

[mendeleyev]

That's why I ended the relationship with a lady because she had forgotten my birthday even though we mentioned about it 9 days before.  I told her if she is genuinely interested in me, she wouldn't have forgotten my birthday.   I told her the relationship is based on two ways - not a one-way street.   Just looked at Elenas Model, she is STILL looking!

She is writing multiple guys at this stage as you are writing multiple ladies.

I'd think it unrealistic to expect each one to remember a birthday when you've not yet met. Of course she is still looking, you've not yet met but sent a 40 question exam, expected her to remember the birth date of a man she' never seen while both of your are still writing others, and you lectured her about what you expect in a relationship. Hope things are not this intense in person.

I'm guessing that she is thankful to move on. I mean no disrespect my friend but frankly, if I were her I'd be still looking too after going thru this experience. Relax and take your time and unless you are absolutely the epitome of divine perfection yourself be cautious about demanding it of a lady you've never met.

The exam is a questionable idea (I'm being kind) but they're good questions at the right place/timing. Nothing like a checklist to answer before you've had time to meet and get to know how a lady responds and feels when considering important questions. Each person is different and you can't stuff her into a computer program and evaluate her against others via written exam. Each of them is a unique person. Some folks are great but don't test well. Others test well but fail in real life. These are great questions to ask (usually not all at once) after you're somewhat comfortable with each other and some trust has been established.

Rip up the test, apologize for sending it in the first place and go over and get to know each woman as an individual.

When I find the lady, I hope 3rd (maybe 2nd meeting) will be in Kiev, or maybe in Odessa where I can cut down hours in travelling.  If the lady wants "taxi" trip to Kiev from Kherson and back, then I will drop her too.

Be careful about coming across as demanding and cheap.

I'm fairly good with languages and when I tell you that I've never met a fluent English speaker who has never lived in an English speaking country, trust me. Were she and I talking, I'd give her every benefit of doubt and clarify questions such as about a taxi. It could be that "taxi" is a way to introduce the concept of travel and when thinking of travel time, taxi seems most reasonable. Don't assume that she is a demanding witch just because she knows that train or bus schedules are long and inconvenient.

Maybe her heart is pure and she is hoping to maximize every moment spent near you? You won't know that if your first response is to give a lecture.

If you're not too pissed at me already, here is some advice:

She: I'd love to meet you but I must travel from Kherson to Kyiv. Is there a taxi?

Normal guy: I'm sure there is but would you be willing to take the train or a bus?

She: You are only here for a few days and I can only arrange 2 days from work unless you come in summer when I can dedicate a week to show you my city and my family. A train will take 13 hours, the bus is 11 hours.

Normal guy: I really want to meet you and hope that we like each other. A taxi is 3-4 hours and will allow us more time to spend together. I've done some research and it seems that a normal taxi fare is between ___ and ____ price. If you can meet me in Kyiv I'll have your taxi fare both ways. I'm willing to make that investment in our potential relationship.

If she countered with a price that is OTT as compared to normal fares then I'd bulk, otherwise like the locals say, "I'm too poor to buy cheap stuff" and that goes for investing in a long-term relationship as well.

[CDW]

She is writing multiple guys at this stage as you are writing multiple ladies.

I'd think it unrealistic to expect each one to remember a birthday when you've not yet met. Of course she is still looking, you've not yet met but sent a 40 question exam, expected her to remember the birth date of a man she' never seen while both of your are still writing others, and you lectured her about what you expect in a relationship. Hope things are not this intense in person.

She wasn't part of the 40-question exam.  She wasn't even on the Kherson Girls.  I found her via Elenas Models.

It doesn't matter if she is writing to multiple guys or not, still she should show interests because I wouldn't forgot her birthday.   We talked about it 9 days before!!!!  And she told me that she wasn't writing to anyone else - only me.  Serve her right for either way - 1) forgot my birthday, or 2) lying to me!

[CDW]

Normal guy: I really want to meet you and hope that we like each other. A taxi is 3-4 hours and will allow us more time to spend together. I've done some research and it seems that a normal taxi fare is between ___ and ____ price. If you can meet me in Kyiv I'll have your taxi fare both ways. I'm willing to make that investment in our potential relationship.

About future meetings:

1 meeting in Kiev +  her in the taxi      OR   2 meetings in Kiev + her in the bus/train
I prefer 2 meetings!!!

I am not very wealthy man like you.  I do not throw money on rubbish.  I would rather give money to charity rather than throwing them away.

She is from Ukraine, and they are used to hard life, but you are giving them "luxury".   If they want "luxury" then why I should fly in "business" class.  "Luxury" life can wait - when she is in England with me!!

If she complains about "too far", then travelling to England isn't for her!!

If she doesn't want to travel by bus/train, and prefer "luxury" than she isn't for me. 

Because I am from other country, I do not want them to expecting luxury life every seconds she is with me.

The real point is that I am NOT afraid of losing her, because I can always find another.  I wish her the best of luck in her search, and also good luck in spending the rest of her life in Ukraine !!!

I can guarantee you that I will find a woman who doesn't take advantage of "luxury" when meeting with me. 

[mendeleyev]

I am not very wealthy man like you.  I do not throw money on rubbish.

Happy to hear that I'm wealthy. My wife will be excited because even though today is our anniversary, after all these years I must have been able to hide that from her. 

So a woman asking about a 3.5 hour taxi ride is rubbish?

CDW, you are looking for a wife in the wrong part of the world.

She is from Ukraine, and they are used to hard life, but you are giving them "luxury".

Again, I'm probably not as "wealthy" as you imagine. However whether rich or poor, I am a man and real men don't take advantage of someone else's economic condition. I have no idea of what your idea of "luxury" is but if my wife were stuck somewhere I'd make sure she had taxi fare if the taxi was 3.5 hours and the train was 13. My wife is too important to me, too valuable to me, to treat her like rubbish.

Truth: rarely do we men treat women as well as when we're in pursuit. I can only imagine how life would be for her after you've won the chase.

[Patagonie]

I rewrited my previous post because it was difficult to understand. 

[Patagonie]

I just received a letter from a woman that I had originally considered in Moscow.  She was an absolute beauty.  But talk about high maintenance.  She has learned every trick in the book to get her way paid.  She said all of the right words and would have married me in an instant.

But I saw her five to ten years down the road complaining that life wasn't serving her chocolate strawberries and that she had to be with the children (if she wasn't so into her self that I could convince her to have some).  I saw her as an alcoholic couch potato and will have none of that.  Big head thinking.  I am very happy with who I wound up with.

If a woman has been conditioned to expect certain things in life, there is nothing you can do to undo that.  But if your woman just has desires and goals, maybe you can convince her to help you acheive them together and that is the best of all worlds.

I was showing my gal some of your posts this evening.  She said that every woman wants a big house.  But a big house to a Ukranian woman is alot smaller than a big house in the US or England.  Meet the women.  If you feel that they cannot be happy with a good man, throw 'em by the side of the road.

-j

"If you feel that they cannot be happy with a good man, throw 'em by the side of the road."
+1
Everybody have some dreams, if you ask them to express it they will tell you, nothing wrong with this. Now if you tell to this people that a house in a city like London is half million $ and this is 14 years of an average salary .....
It becomes interesting to notice her reaction ... in term of adaptation. Does she want a man who can fill high maintenance life based on her expectations or does she sorts men on a human basis, with them offering an acceptable support of course ? Where does she put the trigger ? What is her filter ?
I remember a trip in Kharkov. She was my top 1. in three meetings i understood that :
      --> she had been spoiled by her mum and want to continue to be spoiled.
      --> She was having the typical european demeanor, quite contrasting among her ukrainian pairs : me first. I understood that she would have spend a parrallel life, me filling the bank account to let her enjoy what she want to do.
     --> I also realized that she can be hot (first meeting) and cold (last meeting), herself let escaping a phrase meaning that she was having some depressive traits.
     --> And to finish i also understood that she was having a spanish guy in target.
     --> She was also more weighed than her photos, this was not a problem. The problem was this extra kilos were the beginning of a long list for the next two decades.

I left the scene after the third meeting and focused on others girls.

Just to tell like Jone said : some can tell you the right words you want to hear but have secret agenda. Others can tell you their naive dreams and in fact can be genuine and adapt themselves to a good man for a true love story.

[calmissile]

She is writing multiple guys at this stage as you are writing multiple ladies.

I'd think it unrealistic to expect each one to remember a birthday when you've not yet met. Of course she is still looking, you've not yet met but sent a 40 question exam, expected her to remember the birth date of a man she' never seen while both of your are still writing others, and you lectured her about what you expect in a relationship. Hope things are not this intense in person.

I'm guessing that she is thankful to move on. I mean no disrespect my friend but frankly, if I were her I'd be still looking too after going thru this experience. Relax and take your time and unless you are absolutely the epitome of divine perfection yourself be cautious about demanding it of a lady you've never met.

The exam is a questionable idea (I'm being kind) but they're good questions at the right place/timing. Nothing like a checklist to answer before you've had time to meet and get to know how a lady responds and feels when considering important questions. Each person is different and you can't stuff her into a computer program and evaluate her against others via written exam. Each of them is a unique person. Some folks are great but don't test well. Others test well but fail in real life. These are great questions to ask (usually not all at once) after you're somewhat comfortable with each other and some trust has been established.

Rip up the test, apologize for sending it in the first place and go over and get to know each woman as an individual.

Be careful about coming across as demanding and cheap.

I'm fairly good with languages and when I tell you that I've never met a fluent English speaker who has never lived in an English speaking country, trust me. Were she and I talking, I'd give her every benefit of doubt and clarify questions such as about a taxi. It could be that "taxi" is a way to introduce the concept of travel and when thinking of travel time, taxi seems most reasonable. Don't assume that she is a demanding witch just because she knows that train or bus schedules are long and inconvenient.

Maybe her heart is pure and she is hoping to maximize every moment spent near you? You won't know that if your first response is to give a lecture.

If you're not too pissed at me already, here is some advice:

She: I'd love to meet you but I must travel from Kherson to Kyiv. Is there a taxi?

Normal guy: I'm sure there is but would you be willing to take the train or a bus?

She: You are only here for a few days and I can only arrange 2 days from work unless you come in summer when I can dedicate a week to show you my city and my family. A train will take 13 hours, the bus is 11 hours.

Normal guy: I really want to meet you and hope that we like each other. A taxi is 3-4 hours and will allow us more time to spend together. I've done some research and it seems that a normal taxi fare is between ___ and ____ price. If you can meet me in Kyiv I'll have your taxi fare both ways. I'm willing to make that investment in our potential relationship.

If she countered with a price that is OTT as compared to normal fares then I'd bulk, otherwise like the locals say, "I'm too poor to buy cheap stuff" and that goes for investing in a long-term relationship as well.

+1 Mendy.  I had the same feelings about the clinical drill he was putting the gals through.  I tried his approach in the beginning of my adventure, but soon learned that it was not well received at the other end.

His approach comes across to me like and engineer (me) shopping for a piece of test equipment with all the rigid specifications submitted in advance.  It works for business, but it seems to not work well for romance.   

The FSU women I have met expect romance in the old fashion sense, and once they decide to pursue the relationship, the sensitive questions can be slowly discussed.  For me it seemed to work better to focus on the personality and romantic compatibility first.  I'm not really sure there is a shortcut to this process.

FWIW for CDW....... The women that were the most offended by the tests and specifications were the professional women such as doctors, lawyers, professors and businesswomen.  Exactly the kind of women I was seeking.  Fortunately, I learned the lesson early and changed my approach.  I now have a gal that exceeds all of my requirements and expectations............. Romance first!

[CDW]

If you think you can afford her in taxi, then why don't you give her computer, iPad, that fancy £100 dress from the shop window she likes!!!

About £470  taxi fare just for both ways  Kherson-Kiev & Kiev-Kherson   (That's the cost of TWO air round-trip air fares between London & Kiev)

About £60 on luxury bus from Kherson-Kiev & Kiev-Kherson.

If it was romantic, then she would really be happy taking on buses.

£410 could buy her a new laptop computer or one iPad if she takes on buses! 
It will be worth time taking on the buses!

If you are happy for the £470 plus a laptop, then why don't you give £410 to needy people in Ukraine - charity!!!

Maybe you ought to have BUDGETING lessons, because many ladies complaint that men do not visit as much as they wanted to!!

[CDW]

(same as above posting) duplicate error

[Chelseaboy]

+ 1
I wouldn't pay for a taxi from London to Glasgow,instead of catching a train or bus for myself.
 
So,i certainly wouldn't pay out   £470 ( 755 USD) for taxi's for a girl i hardly even know.I find the idea frankly ridiculous.
 
The expression "A fool and his money are soon parted" comes to mind,and of course that's a very common occurence for foreign bride-seekers in Ukraine.

[CDW]

+ 1
I wouldn't pay for a taxi from London to Glasgow,instead of catching a train or bus for myself.
 
So,i certainly wouldn't pay out   £470 ( 755 USD) for taxi's for a girl i hardly even know.I find the idea frankly ridiculous.
 
The expression "A fool and his money are soon parted" comes to mind,and of course that's a very common occurence for foreign bride-seekers in Ukraine.

+1 to you too

[Eduard]

It doesn't happen often, but I'm... speachless after reading this thread 
The only thing I can say is "Hi Jim! Love you, brother, but you are wasting your time"
  

[mendeleyev]

If you think you can afford her in taxi, then why don't you give her computer, iPad, that fancy £100 dress from the shop window she likes!!!

You brought up computers, ipads, and fancy dresses. I agree, why would you offer ?

My first point is that a woman is not rubbish.

My second point is that you seem very rigid and inflexible. Instead of dropping her for mentioning a taxi, why not talk to her and discuss it, and then come to a decision even if it means that she takes the bus or train. I know plenty of FSU women who take the bus and train every day but have rarely taken a taxi anywhere but inside her city. You seem to assume that she knows the price and that may not be the case. A normal guy is not going to make the mistake of assuming that she knows prices of a taxi and is trying to rip you off until he has a discussion.

[mendeleyev]

"Hi Jim! Love you, brother, but you are wasting your time"

Love you too, brother and wish you a happy new year!

Yes, I think my time is being wasted. 

[Faux Pas]

CDW

Take this as you will, makes me no difference. I find your entire approach appalling and degrading to these woman you hope to progress a relationship with. You'd just as well check their teeth, gums and size up their tits at the first sight and meeting.  IMHO, any woman who would continue to communicate with you is either very desperate or has an alternative agenda. Neither would bode well for you in the future. As long as you have been at this it would appear that you have a learning disability as you have learned well, not much of nothing.

You are not open to learning and instead use the forum for a sounding board rather than a learning tool. Your entire approach is the very same one might use to buying a puppy. The women that agree to meet you will be directly related to the type of communication you have had beforehand. Enticements included. You are fishing for users and prodaters and I assure you, you will find them. Any decent woman will stay miles away from you. Good luck to you in any event.

[jone]

Gentlemen,

CDW is an honest man trying to figure out how to make this stuff work for him.

My take on this (and I was being very subtle about it at the onset) is that people approach FSU dating in two different ways on this site.  The first way is the way I go about it.  I'm probably abit to cocky and confident as I have always been able to be happy with the people around me.  (Remember, I'm the guy who discovered a gal was a pro-dater and then took her out anyway because I thought I would enjoy it - and did.)  If  a woman was enthused enough to meet with me, I was all in.

The other extreme is what we are seeing here.  CDW is trying to figure a possible outcome in advance of his trip.  My recommendation has been consistent since the outset.  Do not judge women by the responses to the questionnaire.  (It is not my style to send anyone a questionnaire and I received some from women when I was exploring - I always cast aside those women.) 

CDW you have to meet the women.  You cannot judge in advance.  Find women that meet your base criteria in appearance and personality type and just meet them.  Don't over think it.  And don't worry about this thread.  I really understand where you're coming from.  The topic can be talked until it is talked out - and then some.  But after hearing everyone's advice, you will go no more prepared than you already are.

But I sincerely have one more thought for you as you are mulling over all of these posts.  And it is one that ML would give you:  Enjoy yourself.  You are at a time in your life when you are actively seeking a spouse.  Enjoy the experience.  Have fun with it.  Sometimes it's more about the ride than the destination.  This is a great adventure.  Too much planning or thinking can spoil it for you. 

Good luck,

-j

[Ranetka]

CDW,


instead of a long post I prepared I just want to


wish you the best of luck and


I look forward to reading your trip report.


 

[CDW]

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[CDW]

As long as you have been at this it would appear that you have a learning disability as you have learned well, not much of nothing.

How am I learning disability when I have BSc Joint Degree in Mathematics & Statistics and own fashion business???  Care to explain that, you old fart!

Hey you big FROG IDIOT, a learning disability person wouldn't know how to write here!   

Hey, you FROGHEAD, Politics people always made arguments against other party - are they also learning disability?

Go away, FROG! 

[CDW]

CDW
Any decent woman will stay miles away from you. Good luck to you in any event.

Your WRONG!!  Any decent woman will want to have me!   

Only women who will stay away from me are:  scammers, pro-daters, materialistic women!!!

Decent women are looking for LOVE, but scammers, pro-daters, materialistic women just like your wife attract YOU!!