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[andrewfi]

I'd have to agree with Manny, going from the photo,
she's more average Brit than slender.

Lets be right gents and ladies.
That is a woman who, in American terms, looks like she needs a good few dinners to get her up to a healthy weight and is thus considered very slender. For the rest of us she is a woman in normal condition.

[LiveFromUkraine]

Lets be right gents and ladies.
That is a woman who, in American terms, looks like she needs a good few dinners to get her up to a healthy weight and is thus considered very slender. For the rest of us she is a woman in normal condition.

UK has what I believe to be a 24% obesity rate (America is at 34% from recollection) and that isn't including the people who are fat.  The woman in the picture isn't modelesque skinny, but I find it difficult to believe that she is considered an average brit unless you are also including all the EE gals that have migrated.  Especially when you consider her age (I believe in the 30's).


As for American terms, you would be considered very, very healthy. 

[Gator]

On the photo of the blonde woman with the older chap you linked?

With respect to the lady, and I don't know her age, whilst she is not a fat lady, she is not what I would call slender of thigh. Probably European average.

For her height (relative to him - assuming he average), slender would be UK size 8 or less. She is more of an average size (UK) 10/12. My guess is she is circa 60 kgs. Slender for her height might be 54kgs, which that lady isn't.

Reminds me of mendy's comment on makeup.
 
The important point is that CC3 likes her.

[Brillynt]

The important point is that CC3 likes her.

Exactly, as CC3 is fond of saying. 

[ML]

That is a woman who, in American terms, looks like she needs a good few dinners to get her up to a healthy weight and is thus considered very slender.

As usual, these discussions get twisted because various persons have different ideas about what a particular word means.

And the discussions are further confused by those who like to change a word or add a word, and then pretend  like they are discussing the same thing as originally started.

I started this by saying  the gal had 'slender thighs.'
Now Andrew has changed it to 'very slender' and is referring to the entire body.

I had made up a chart type listing of the gradations (in my view) from emaciated up to extreme obesity some time in the past, but can't locate it  right now.

For now, I repeat, in my classification the gal has slender thighs.
For me, this is not the same as saying she has very slender, thin, skinny or emaciated thighs.

Also this does not rule out the idea that her thighs may be average (while at the same time being slender) for any particular sample group of women.

Average can refer to an absolute measure and to a relative measure.

[Boethius]

UK has what I believe to be a 24% obesity rate (America is at 34% from recollection) and that isn't including the people who are fat.  The woman in the picture isn't modelesque skinny, but I find it difficult to believe that she is considered an average brit unless you are also including all the EE gals that have migrated.  Especially when you consider her age (I believe in the 30's).

So what?  Ukraine's obesity rate is at about 21%, with 53% of the population overweight.  Not too far off UK stats.

[mendeleyev]

Reminds me of mendy's comment on makeup.
 
The important point is that CC3 likes her.

If my comment led anyone to think it was critical, my apologies. I feel that she has a natural beauty that doesn't need massive enhancements.

Just my personal opinion.

[Gator]

If my comment led anyone to think it was critical, my apologies. I feel that she has a natural beauty that doesn't need massive enhancements.

Just my personal opinion.

Exactly.  I am certain that no offense was taken by anyone unless they were looking for a fight.

[andrewfi]

ML, if I were referring to you specifically, believe me you'd have known about it.
Don't get too sensitive it does not do you any favours.

[LiveFromUkraine]

So what?  Ukraine's obesity rate is at about 21%, with 53% of the population overweight.  Not too far off UK stats.

Good for Ukraine. That has nothing to do with what I said.  If you want to discuss my statements, please try to be more specific.

[Boethius]

Good for Ukraine. That has nothing to do with what I said.  If you want to discuss my statements, please try to be more specific.

It certainly does.  You referred to the UK's obesity rates as evidence that Manny was wrong, because, by inference, he must be used to seeing many large (UK) women.  No one ever says Ukraine is full of overweight women, notwithstanding the fact its levels of girth are not too far off that of the UK.

[LiveFromUkraine]

It certainly does.  You referred to the UK's obesity rates as evidence that Manny was wrong, because, by inference, he must be used to seeing many large (UK) women.  No one ever says Ukraine is full of overweight women, notwithstanding the fact its levels of girth are not too far off that of the UK.

Oh geez, your whole argument is based on what others are saying. 

Has anyone said UK is full of overweight women?  I have heard a few pommies state that. Does that make my statement true then?


The woman in the picture isn't even fat.

[cc3]

I have to say that cc3 looks very appropriate and nice with both AW in his photos.
But to seriously believe that this not so bad looking UW finds an old man who is probably older than her father "the most intimately desirable man she has ever met" - come on! Someone is in serious need of a fork - to take pile of noodles off of their ears. 

Her father deserted her and her mother when she was an infant...no love lost there!

After staying with me tonight, in my apt in Luhans'k, until midnight-thirty, when she had to return home to her teenage daughter, she sent me an sms saying, among other endearments, "I LOVE you more than I can realize."

You, pitbull, have not one scintilla of romance in your heart and cannot realize that people fall in love with whomever they will, regardless of your personal standards. If I did not believe her feelings for me to be genuine, I would not be here. I have no problem finding companionship anywhere. What I want is love and a committed relationship. As disturbing as it is to your sense of appropriateness, this woman truly loves me, and I, her. So, get over it...after all. you are stuck with Ade.

[cc3]

cc3, most Eastern European women aren't heavily into makeup to the same extent as AW.  She is pretty and seems comfortable in your presence.  I (jokingly) think that the use of warpaint on some AW has to do with American's native Indian heritage, or at least that is my opinion of things sometimes in the land where cosmetics seem to be sold by the gallon.

Nice photos, by the way.  Natural beauty doesn't need much refinement.  You and I on the other hand.....

PS, in agreeing also with some of Boethius' thoughts, often the way RW/UW describe intimate isn't necessarily physical.  We all must remember that unless a gal has lived in a Western country and spoken English in the manner that it is spoken in our country, she is mentally translating while she speaks.  Sometimes as the brain is translating, there is a mental "word search" going on in her vocab catalog.  Intimate can be a broadly defined term in language although locally it may be used more often in the physical sense.  Unless I heard the Russian or Ukrainian terms used in a specific context, I'd think of it as she being comfortable/relaxed/at ease with you and in searching for English words those phrases might fit perfectly as to what a lady means when using the English word intimate.

That being said, congratulations because from the photos it seems that she indeed is comfortable/relaxed/at ease with you and that is truly what matters.

Thank you. Sorry for the delay...switched to a Kindle Fire (don't - no Cyrillic keyboard) for my latest trip to Luhans'k and have been offline for about 10 days.

[cc3]

Lipstick of course. A little eye liner even, sure.  But a completely new face with foundation, etc, after breakfast.  Rarely.

She wears only a little eye liner and muted lip coloring.

[cc3]

cc3,
Nice photos.   Your lady is a very attractive woman.   You look great together.
I hope the two of you find everlasting happiness together.

Sorry for the delay...thank you very much.

[cc3]

cc3,
 
What others may say about you is not important.  What is important is how you and Nina feel about each other.  Lovely woman!   With your experience I would think that you know whether a woman is really into you or not.  I wish the two of you complete happiness.

Gator, thanks so much...have been offline with botched-up computer change and traveling back to Luhans'k. Nina and I are immensely happy (I've only been away 3 weeks).

[pitbull]

Her father deserted her and her mother when she was an infant...no love lost there!

After staying with me tonight, in my apt in Luhans'k, until midnight-thirty, when she had to return home to her teenage daughter, she sent me an sms saying, among other endearments, "I LOVE you more than I can realize."

You, pitbull, have not one scintilla of romance in your heart and cannot realize that people fall in love with whomever they will, regardless of your personal standards. If I did not believe her feelings for me to be genuine, I would not be here. I have no problem finding companionship anywhere. What I want is love and a committed relationship. As disturbing as it is to your sense of appropriateness, this woman truly loves me, and I, her. So, get over it...after all. you are stuck with Ade.

Hey, hey, hey. let's separate flies from cutlets here. 
I fully believe this much younger woman could have fallen in love with you. You must, as a package have really great qualities - like treat her better than any man did, substitute a father figure, teach her, provide for her intellectually and materially and so on...
However, when talking about fitness and pure sexual attractiveness - as in what would sexually turn a woman her age on - I just don't buy that you are the highest, best quality male specimen she has ever met and she desires you (on a purely physical attributes) more than any other man she has ever met. Just looking at your photo. She is grossly exaggerating or/and has been exceptionally unfortunate and unsuccessful with men, period.
Let's just flip this situation. It's like, imagine a fit guy in his late 30-s saying that one of those older AW in your photos, though super fir for their age (late 60-s I presume), is the most sexually desirable woman he has ever met. I bet most 40-y.o. guys on RWD won't sleep with them under any circumstances. 
 
So nah, still don't buy it.
 
 

[cc3]

I'd have a question for you cc3.
 
You write that a drawback in your relationships with AW was mainly in the fact that they regarded you mostly as an activity friend and were not interested in a long term live in relationship with you. What you described looks actually not as a GF but as an activity friend, provided that no intimacy.
 
Could I suggest a hypothetical here? What if Robin were more feminine looking, with long wavy hair, wearing high heels and dresses outside of her athletic activities, and romantically involved with you? What if she would desire you? Would you still prefer Nina to her?

Lily, please forgive my reply delay. I have been unavoidably offline for about the last 10 days.

Robin was not only into her marathon running and cycling, she was also devoted to her cardiology nursing profession and happy owning, and residing alone in, her new California home. She had been married to a minister for 16 years and had become an evangelical Christian. The only man that she would ever fully re-engage with, as she told me, would have to also be an evangelical. In the meantime she was happy to have a running and cycling partner, and that was as far as it was going to go. I tried to guide our relationship to a more personal and romantic level, but she resisted and I gave up. I guess that's what happens when one searches for a mate on "Fitness- singles.com".

As far as Nina goes, now that we are totally committed to each other, I would prefer her over any woman in the world! By the way, Nina doesn't wear high heels. She has to walk so much, after marshrutka dismount, to visit the pupils whom she tutors, that she wears practical traveling shoes.

[cc3]

Yeah, I have to agree with your hubby Pitbull.
I wonder if CC3 has a mule suit in the closet?
 
GOB

You are ignorant or have not read much on this forum. I more than once cited that my fiancee is absolutely not interested in emigrating to the US. We will be married here in UA and will reside in Luhans'k as she completes her university course work. We will take maximum advantage of my airline employee travel benefits to make numerous trips to western Europe and the US when she has study breaks.

No mule suit in my closet. Are you in need of one????

[cc3]

Maybe she has the mule suit since they plan to live in Ukraine.

You got it, LFU!!! She's my mule to Ukraine!   

[cc3]

I really like her slender thighs !!!

And, although he looks no younger than his stated age; I am quite envious of his athletic ability in distance running and he exudes great vitality.  I don't doubt his 'intimacy' ability.  And, unlike most of us, he is not a coward.

I'm a Marine....

[GQBlues]

LOL, pitbull....

Anyway, I'll give cc3 a bit of credit if he does in fact run 9-min mile for a 68 year old. I'm certain any other man his age in the world of MOB would easily keel over short of an 1/8 of a mile at that pace. Heck, even YOUNGER MOBer, I bet. As long as cc3 also realizes he was a such patsy for only topping 7-minute mile when he was in his 30s...

That said, it's safe for me to assume that fitness is more than a huge part of your life cc3. As you should know by now, not too many FSUWs are particularly into athletics as much as someone like you are. If there's one thing I can note as a disconnect with wifey and I, it is sports. She does her best to accommodate this part of me. She's learned to play tennis, snowboarding, roller-blading, occasionally plays golf and would go and shoot hoops now and then. In the summer, we'd go ride bikes and when just chillin' on the beach, she'd even paddle out with me on her boogie board...but even with this - I still won't qualify her as 'athletic'. At least not the type I'm used to be with.

All other things in our relationship is outstanding, but there are moments I miss AWs seeming studied readiness and propensity in sports. I taught my sweetie everything she knows and enjoy, sports-wise, and I have no regrets. Matter of fact, I am grateful.

It's just that I sometimes miss not having to 'teach' anything at all - like it used to be before....Not sure if that makes sense.

[cc3]

I was just re-reading this again. 

Eager libidos but only interested in athletic activity?

A little confusing to me.

You know, ML...it was confusing to me as well. I met both of them through a site called "Fitness-singles.com"

Our initial writings to each other were, to me, those of people searching for long term, intimate relationships. But, once we were together, the running, cycling, and tennis (in the case of Suzi) seem to take priority over all other considerations. If we weren't working out, we were planning the next day's workout.

So, my perception of their eager libidos is based on the way they presented themselves digitally, before I physically met them. Coincidentally, they both put me through an "audition run" when we were first together. Robin's audition wasn't too bad: 6 miles on the beach in Mendocino County. Suzi's was a Bataan Death March: 8 miles in July, in hilly North Carolina, in the heat of the day!

[cc3]

Yeah LFU..... That plan will last about as long as he stays healthy and given the OP's age, well...... 
Then back to the "Good Ol' USA" for health care treatments. 
 
GOB

PS.... I know, it has been stated here before on RWD by a member that lived in the FSU and that I respect: "GOB, do not disturb the fantasy".

Hey, dude...it's called airline staff travel privileges...the US is only hours away from Luhans'k for me, not dollars. I've been flying back and forth to eastern Europe for 7 freaking years and repeatedly round trip to western Europe for 26 years, so there's no fantasy involved.