Sex with FSU women

[solomon]

Sex after three or four dates together (or even days)? I have experienced this with only one girl who later struck me as a slut and then as a scammer. I can be aggressive, laid back, or something in between and the best I can get is a one-way ticket to a Gulag.

Solomon 

[Taz]

What are you actually asking? Are you asking what is the normal time before a woman will sleep with you or what? There is no rule book they read and say I will sleep with solomon after X or Y days.

Each woman is has her personal feelings about when she will sleep with someone. If you impress a woman the time table is normally faster than some guy she doesn't think much of.

[solomon]

My apologies, but I thought I was communicating clearly. The vast majority of the people have said that 3 or 4 days is usually the litmus test and if it does not work out by that time then I should move on. I have met a girl for example who may go on holiday with me for a week and still nothing may happen even if things are going well between us. Even though it appears I have either found a virgin or a psycho, she lived with a 30 year old man for a year.

I would like to think that the girls think something of me if they continue to want to meet with me. I am not buying them things.

[Turboguy]

Solomon,

I have to agree with Taz a little here.  Everyone is unique, everyone has their own morals and ideas, everyone has their level of attraction and ideas of proper behavior. 

If it were me, personally, I would not look at the 4 day mark as the point where if I was not having sex, I would move on, but I might look at what was happening at that point.   If after 4 or 5 days I was getting to kiss her cheek at night and when we met, I might think the chemistry was not there and move on.   I have had that happen and have moved on a number of times.

My all time record for thinks progressing with a Russian gal was 15 minutes after we met.  Did I think she was attracted to me.  No, of course not.  I thought she was not the kind of gal that would hop in the sack with anyone after 15 minutes. 

With my former fiancee we did not have sex on my first visit of 5 days but we did have some fairly passionate times and were not too far from it.   It was enough I thought she was attracted and yet of course respected her.  

[catzenmouse]

I agree that there is not set mark for this. If you have chemistry and  if she is attracted to you then you will know it. Some are more  aggressive and some are more reserved in this.

Ken

[LatinSwede]

Me and my Odessa Dyevoshka both agreed to a strict closed door policy on the bedroom.  It's not for me to discuss with my bandmates, or anybody else.  She is not to discuss it with her lady friends at tea, or any place else.  What we do in the privacy of our intimate setting, is an adventure that only the two of us will know about.  It's not dirty or naughty in the right time and place.  How ever, we are not a webcam couple.  If one is really interested in how others "do buissness", there is a special section in the back of the video store.

[groovlstk]

I don't think Solomon is looking for advice on what to do behind closed  doors, he's looking for a barometer on how to gauge a woman's interest  level based on her willingness to have sex.

Guys can go on and on about how all women are different, but I don't  buy it. An FSU girl knows a guy is in town for X amount of days.  Certainly, even for a conservative girl, her mores and desires have to  grab the express train when a foreign guy arrives because his time with  her is very limited. If she likes him enough to want a relationship,  she will not risk losing him by waiting to have sex when they meet  again. If you spend a few days with a girl and she knows you're headed  home and resists sex but wants to see you again... Forget it, she's not  into you.

 

[Elen]

It's silly to have a sex just because a girl is afraid to lost "him"  If he is ready to drop you because you had not sex with him after 4 days in reality then скатертью дорожка to such "fiance" - fogret him

[catzenmouse]

I have to agree with Elen on this one. If sex is the only way that you can continue a relationship then it is not a relationship but just sex. There are plenty of ways to know that she is interested in you without jumping into bed.

Ken

P.S. groovlstk: Love the new look! Kind of an AfroElvis...

[Turboguy]

Personally I both agree with you and disagree with you Elen.   To me I think there should be whatever is natural and comfortable for everyone involved.   For some that might be quick or slow.  I don't think sex in four days is some magic benchmark for moving on. 

I do think if after 4 or 5 days you are still at the quick peck on the cheek stage you are probably wasting your time.   You either have someone who is not romantically interested in you or have someone who is basically not affectionate either of which would qualify her as someone I would not want as my partner for my life. 

[Elen]

Now it's a stick of two ends like we say here If you Turbo see a girl who does not show "enough" for you "romantic" after first meeting in reality like not good partner for future life and would prefer to deal only with girls who are able to have sex with almost "stranger" ( whatever a "reason would be - limitted time, "chemistry", train wich is ready to leave and etc)  then you are in a great risk to marry to you-know-who

[Turboguy]

I think you misunderstood me Elen. 

Probably if a girl had sex with me after the first meeting I would think she would have sex with anyone after the first meeting including my next door neighbor and the mailman and would not think she would be good wife material.  I am not saying that in a few instances where you have built a stong friendship with letters and mail It might happen in a more natural way and I would not find that a consdieration.

I am saying basically that if at that magic 4 day mark some have sited you are still pecking her on the cheek at the beginning of the day and the end of the day the girl is probably not that attracted to you and if anything is just wanting some nice dinners and probably by that point has also taken you shopping.

My point was more the opposite.  I don't think you should necessarily say that if I have not had sex at the end of the 4th day I am going to dump the girl.   Lets say just in theory that after the first day you kissed her on the cheek, after the second day you got a real kiss,  the thrid day there was some kissing, the forth day got some rather passionate kisses.  I would look at that as possibly the relationship progressing and feel like she was attracted at least.   I have had times I have seen girls for 5 days and the each day started and ended with a peck on the cheek.  It does make me feel like there is not any real attraction and that I am wasting my time.   I just belive that realionships are individual and move at thier own natural pace but if there is no movement, no progression then that is a bad sign.

 

[Elen]

Okay it's all a matter of time boders wich everybody sets for him/herself - just only those boders should not depend on nationality, time limits and money spent at your trip

[Oosik]

Well Elen, you are usually pretty quick to tell us your opinions.

How long do you wait?


Or perhaps I should say, how long do the women in your group of friends wait?

[Bruno]

Well Elen, you are usually pretty quick to tell us your opinions.

How long do you wait?

Elen don't wait anymore, she is already married...

At a general level, you have no defined timing... one women can be more fast that the other but the main factor is the man... a ugly poor old werstern jerk can maybe stay waiting the rest of is life... women are free to choose with who, why and when she make love... for a same woman, delay can change... same married, try to forget the birthday of your wife and you will game with your own hand during several weeks...

Don't be silly about delay for go to bed... you need charm the lady and maybe you will be rewarded...

[Elen]

Well Elen, you are usually pretty quick to tell us your opinions.

How long do you wait?


Or perhaps I should say, how long do the women in your group of friends wait?

 Women  "in my group" of freiend were married to boys who they knew like "friends" for long time before due to studying/working together.  As for sex then it "happened" in  1-1,5 months after friendship moved in "dating stage"

[Albert]

Turbo and others continue to be so thick headed about this.  Women can play you any way they want.

Turbo, let's say the gal you met in L.A. recently, held out for 7-10 days or whatever before sex with you (assuming you were with her that long.)  You would be here singing her praises.

Meanwhile she is EXACTLY the same woman and has sex with other guys on first date.  It was only you she held out on.

When is this going to sink in????

[Albert]

How many dates will a guy keep going on with a gal without sex?  Well it depends on his sex drive.  The lower his sex drive, the longer he can wait it out.

The same applies to the gal.

If you are a guy who likes sex, then it is really nice to be with a gal who really likes sex also.  Not just that she will have sex because she knows you want it . . . .  but a gal who is really into sex for her own pleasure also.

If a gal can hold out for a long time before first sex, then she can hold out for a long time after marriage also.

[Turboguy]

Turbo and others continue to be so thick headed about this.  Women can play you any way they want.

Turbo, let's say the gal you met in L.A. recently, held out for 7-10 days or whatever before sex with you (assuming you were with her that long.)  You would be here singing her praises.

Meanwhile she is EXACTLY the same woman and has sex with other guys on first date.  It was only you she held out on.

When is this going to sink in????

When is it going to sink in.  NEVER, because I don't agree with it.  Sure, I will agree that women play men anyway they want sometimes.   If she held out for 7 to 10 days would I still be singing her praises,  Yes, of course.  She would be the same person.  I mentioned this before but one of the things that bothered me was that she came to LA without ever asking about the sleeping arrangements.  You would probably think of that as good.  I didn't.   Personally I think a gal can date a guy for a few days without having sex and still have a strong sex drive and that doesn't mean she is having sex with all the other guys on the first date.   I am sure I would not be very happy with a gal who did not like sex but frankly I would not have the least bit of interest in a gal who had the same ideas about sex that you do.  You would be.  Thats fine.  We just have different ideas, way different. 

I guess I look at it a little like if a gal jumps into the sack with every guy who buys her a burger at McDonalds she will hop in the sack with anyone she can find including the mailman and next door neighbor after you are married.  It is just not the kind of woman I want.   I am not saying that a gal who holds out for 5 days still won't hop in the sack with the mailman or next door neighbor but the odds are a little bit better.

 

[BillyB]

Women can play you any way they want.

While sitting in a restaurant, a man is thinking of how to get into the woman's panties and the woman is thinking of how to get into a man's wallet. You have to know the rules to play the game. Not. All you need to do is figure out the women and men that play games and avoid them.

There are women that want to feel wanted and loved with no strings attached but they have enough brains to get to know a man before they have sex with him. Sorry, I have no respect for women that spreads her legs for a man before they get to know him. One date is not enough to get to know someone. Can any of you men out there invite a man you met for the first time to spend the night in your home?  Just think about the women who does that and lets the guy pork her. Borderline insanity. Definately not marriage material.

Find a woman that has standards and doesn't play childish games.

[PeeWee]

How many dates will a guy keep going on with a gal without sex?  Well it depends on his sex drive.  The lower his sex drive, the longer he can wait it out.

The same applies to the gal.

If you are a guy who likes sex, then it is really nice to be with a gal who really likes sex also.  Not just that she will have sex because she knows you want it . . . .  but a gal who is really into sex for her own pleasure also.

If a gal can hold out for a long time before first sex, then she can hold out for a long time after marriage also.

Why does whether she has sex with you within a certain time frame or not have anything to do with the relationship? You make it sound like it's a prerequisit to having a long term relationship. If the woman is wonderful in everyway then does the emphasis have to be on sex? Which is more important to you? The sex or the relationship if you could choose only one of the two options? If you choose sex then what does that say about your relationship with her? If you choose relationship then the sex is not so important. If you must have sex then why not buy a prostitute for for that while you continue to build your relationship with your future wife? To say that if she does not have sex with you with in 3 or 6 dates then what is that saying aobut you, as a person? It says that you have an agenda that might just place more importance on sex and not taking the time to find out if she is the one for you.

Some of you guys border on the immature when it comes to this stuff. Sex is only one part of many parts of building a solid and lasting relationship. To hear it told here one would think that sex is the cornerstone of your relationships with a woman.

Peewee

[mike15]

It is not when, but the quantity and quality....

[PeeWee]

[user=947]mike15[/user] wrote:

It is not when, but the quantity and quality....

Quantity? Mike, have you ever been married before? If so you must know that guys that have been married for more than a few years actually get less sex than their brothers who are not married. Once she has a child or two then all sex stops for the rest of the marriage. This is why so many married guys have mistresses. For men the sex drive does not end like it does for women. I don't think RW are any different than the American sisters are in this regard. More sex before marriage, until she hooks you, and then after marriage the weight comes one, the hair gets shorter, and then kiss the sex good bye. I would never judge a potential partner based inpart on quantity and quality of sex. Both will change with time. Marry the woman for whom she is, not for what she does.

 

Peewee

[Elen]

One more males' excuse for having nistress :?

[PeeWee]

One more males' excuse for having nistress :?

Why, you don't think that a man would find sex with another woman if it was not coming from his wife? Men are men. Sex is biological. Of course he will go else where.

Peewee