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[Solted5]

GOOD LUCK.

Dear,the picture you posted as your main isn't your picture.It's a fake picture from internet. You accuse other people of being fakes but you are a fake by yourself.................................................................. .....................

[Solted5]

I could not resist. I had to come back one more time to answer this.

Unlike you, I do not post fake pictures, fake names and steal other peoples money. If I say something I mean it. If I post something it is true.

I was willing to sign the IMBRA form that has all my legal information and submit it to the agency to get your info. That has been my argument all along. If you you or the agency still do not get it, GOD SAVE YOU ALL. AMEN.

Stop calling me to chat please on UkraineBridesAgency because i don't have a slightest desire to talk to you anymore. You showed your true nature.I find you are not worth of my attention anymore.Sorry

[Patagonie]

Dear Solted5

I can understand that you could be angry but defending your name or your reality has nothing to do with the subject.

The subject is that you obsiouvly tried to keep the customer enslaved to the agency
May you tell us and explain us a good reason to NOT accept this customer to pay the money needed to a direct communication and after you started to try to make him guilty and greedy.
Explain us WHY you don't want to talk directly with him ?

post of the customer
"Initially she sounded genuine. I asked her, if she will be ok if I pay a one time fee of one hundred dollars to the agency to get her contact info. She never answered it straight, and went on that she wants to know more about me, hence would like to chat on this site. I told her that the reviews of this agency are not great and hence I'm willing to pay a one time fee to get your info so that we can communicate directly and know more. She went on defending the site owner with many responses, which sounded like copy + paste. She started questioning me , cant you spend 20-30 dollars a day to know more about your future life partner, Am I not worth 20-30 dollars ???"

[AC]

Thank you for your question.Anyway let me slightly remind you that it is not your business where i look for a soulmate,in my city or in Africa or in Space or on Ukrainebridesagency etc.It souldn't bother you as long as you are not my boy-friend.

It is our business.  A pro-dater is much worse than a prostitute.  For all we know you are married with children and clearly you being on a pay for play site is just to make $$$.  Put your profile on a free site if you are sincere.  You won't do it, because you're not.

[AC]

Okay,let me tell you WHAT i love. I love tolerance and brains.I love when people don't offend each other,i love when people have equel rights no matter what countries  they are from.

If it was equal nobody would need to pay to communicate with you.

[AC]

Mike, don't blink man, she's fake. The agency has many pictures of the girls just in case. They send the pictures to men from time to time to keep them on the site and keep the dough coming in. They lure you with the glamorous pictures, then once you are hooked, they send you more real ones to show you they are genuine. It's part of the scam.

   It's likely not her but an interpreter (Perp).

[Solted5]

Dear Solted5

I can understand that you could be angry but defending your name or your reality has nothing to do with the subject.

The subject is that you obsiouvly tried to keep the customer enslaved to the agency
May you tell us and explain us a good reason to NOT accept this customer to pay the money needed to a direct communication and after you started to try to make him guilty and greedy.
Explain us WHY you don't want to talk directly with him ?



post of the customer
"Initially she sounded genuine. I asked her, if she will be ok if I pay a one time fee of one hundred dollars to the agency to get her contact info. She never answered it straight, and went on that she wants to know more about me, hence would like to chat on this site. I told her that the reviews of this agency are not great and hence I'm willing to pay a one time fee to get your info so that we can communicate directly and know more. She went on defending the site owner with many responses, which sounded like copy + paste. She started questioning me , cant you spend 20-30 dollars a day to know more about your future life partner, Am I not worth 20-30 dollars ???"

Solted5 here.Firstly the reason is i actually knew that man for several days on the site .That is 7 or 8 days,we spoke at least two or three times only in text chat.He sent me one letter only containing his pics,not much info about himself.That is not enough ammount of time i would give my contact information to a man in such case .If a man is really seriously interested in a woman he will not hustle her in Sake of 20-30 saved dollars on the site. He will understand she needs some time to get to know him.After i politely explained i need to know a bit more about him.He just said BYE and came here to write all that negative and abusive stuff .And one more reason why i decided to give us some more time to know each other better because it seemed to me he was rather interested in sexual relation than in a relationship itself as a whole thing.He suggested me to meet in India in January and to know each other in person.When i said that i would prefer to stay in a separate room because it's a normal thing for a first meeting of a man and a woman. Raj (jetmike74) was not satisfied with my decision.He suggested one room for us and said he was not looking just for friends to stay in separate rooms.That made me think i would want more time to know him better before i share my contact info. I am not for pure sex in UkraineBrideAgency.I am looking for a successful relationship.Why i didn't give up on him? I liked his pics he sent to me in a letter and yes in the beginning he seemed nice.I hope i have answered your question.

[Solted5]

  It's likely not her but an interpreter (Perp).

You are mistaken. I don't use an enterprete.My english is just too good for that.

[Solted5]

It is our business.  A pro-dater is much worse than a prostitute.  For all we know you are married with children and clearly you being on a pay for play site is just to make $$$.  Put your profile on a free site if you are sincere.  You won't do it, because you're not.

I would recommend you to stop your abusive posts. You don't have any rights to judge me because you don't know me.And spreading out your fantasy would work much better when doing some other stuff,i hope you understand.

[AC]

I would recommend you to stop your abusive posts. You don't have any rights to judge me because you don't know me.And spreading out your fantasy would work much better when doing some other stuff,i hope you understand.

A typical response from Boris who hopes to protect the reputation of his agency.  Caveat Emptor!

[AC]

You are mistaken. I don't use an enterprete.My english is just too good for that.

Really?  I suggest you start; not that any agency interpreter from Ukraine is up to par.  I also suggest that if the OP wants to date women from the FSU, he makes a profile on Mamba or other such and look for the FSU women already in the USA who are fluent in English, and more importantly understand American culture.

My second bit of advice is that if you do want to spend thousands flying over there, then avoid pay per play agencies at all cost.  For example it might be possible to find this Julia Solted on VKontakte, and don't be surprised if she did not know about this conversation.  OTOH I would still probably avoid her at all costs, as she or he clearly puts $$$ above any chance of real romance and love. 


Next!  It's a numbers game OP time to move on to a much better prospect.

[CDW]

Vihrat Kohli

JetMike, You shouldn't asked ladies to visit you in India or anywhere else during the initial meeting.  If she said was true, then the initial meeting should be in HER country.  Be a gentleman and go visit ladies country and learn their culture and appreciate the beauty of UKrainian architecture, nature, etc

[Solted5]

Really?  I suggest you start; not that any agency interpreter from Ukraine is up to par.  I also suggest that if the OP wants to date women from the FSU, he makes a profile on Mamba or other such and look for the FSU women already in the USA who are fluent in English, and more importantly understand American culture.

My second bit of advice is that if you do want to spend thousands flying over there, then avoid pay per play agencies at all cost.  For example it might be possible to find this Julia Solted on VKontakte, and don't be surprised if she did not know about this conversation.  OTOH I would still probably avoid her at all costs, as she or he clearly puts $$$ above any chance of real romance and love. 

Next!  It's a numbers game OP move on to a much better prospect.

who are you or what are to suggest me what i should do and what i should not do.Think about it please. What might be possible or not might be possible ends up in your mind if talking about my personality. I explained clearly who i am and what is my purpose. And such thing as your miserable fantasy is far from my interest;)

[AC]

who are you or what are to suggest me what i should do and what i should not do.Think about it please. What might be possible or not might be possible ends up in your mind if talking about my personality. I explained clearly who i am and what is my purpose. And such thing as your miserable fantasy is far from my interest;)

You clearly do not understand or comprehend English very well.  My post was and is for the benefit of the OP and any other person reading, not for you. 

There is nobody here who is interested in paying your website to communicate with you.  Game over, you lost.  Better luck next time, Boris.

[jetmike74]

At some stage this conversation has to end. No point going on and on.
All of us have shared our thoughts and opinions. Everything is out here. A new reader can make his/her own judgement.

Now time to sit back, think, learn and be wiser. At least that is what I will take from this conversation.

And I have no hesitation in admitting that I have learnt a lot. Still a novice and only 2 weeks old in this pursuit.

And Seniors, Thank you for all the support. I have picked up all of your sincere suggestions.

I have some news to share. I have got some good, genuine leads in my pursuit of happiness. One of it happens to be a young ukrainian couple  who were in college along with me when I was pursuing my MS. They were good friends and I had lost touch since then. I reconnected with them. Guess where, on linkedin.

Will keep you posted guys.


Take care All.

[Patagonie]

Solted5 here.Firstly the reason is i actually knew that man for several days on the site .That is 7 or 8 days,we spoke at least two or three times only in text chat.He sent me one letter only containing his pics,not much info about himself.That is not enough ammount of time i would give my contact information to a man in such case .If a man is really seriously interested in a woman he will not hustle her in Sake of 20-30 saved dollars on the site. He will understand she needs some time to get to know him.After i politely explained i need to know a bit more about him.He just said BYE and came here to write all that negative and abusive stuff .And one more reason why i decided to give us some more time to know each other better because it seemed to me he was rather interested in sexual relation than in a relationship itself as a whole thing.He suggested me to meet in India in January and to know each other in person.When i said that i would prefer to stay in a separate room because it's a normal thing for a first meeting of a man and a woman. Raj (jetmike74) was not satisfied with my decision.He suggested one room for us and said he was not looking just for friends to stay in separate rooms.That made me think i would want more time to know him better before i share my contact info. I am not for pure sex in UkraineBrideAgency.I am looking for a successful relationship.Why i didn't give up on him? I liked his pics he sent to me in a letter and yes in the beginning he seemed nice.I hope i have answered your question.

Dear Solted, if you say the truth, hoping that you have not deleted the mails, so i can understand your reasons and why you were cautious. I wouldn't go to India with a stranger of course. It is not a good start for a relationship.

Newbies : you date the lady AT HOME (where she lives), it is more respectful for her, and you avoid a BUNCH of potential problems.

[Faux Pas]

At some stage this conversation has to end. No point going on and on.
All of us have shared our thoughts and opinions. Everything is out here. A new reader can make his/her own judgement.

Now time to sit back, think, learn and be wiser. At least that is what I will take from this conversation.

And I have no hesitation in admitting that I have learnt a lot. Still a novice and only 2 weeks old in this pursuit.

And Seniors, Thank you for all the support. I have picked up all of your sincere suggestions.

I have some news to share. I have got some good, genuine leads in my pursuit of happiness. One of it happens to be a young ukrainian couple  who were in college along with me when I was pursuing my MS. They were good friends and I had lost touch since then. I reconnected with them. Guess where, on linkedin.

Will keep you posted guys.


Take care All.

Before you trot off jetMike, two questions please, I don't know if it's the actual woman you chatted with or an agency shill. Which is it?  Please clarify this for us as well as, did the one bedroom for an India trip conversation take place?

[jetmike74]

Dear Solted, if you say the truth, hoping that you have not deleted the mails, so i can understand your reasons and why you were cautious. I wouldn't go to India with a stranger of course. It is not a good start for a relationship.

Newbies : you date the lady AT HOME (where she lives), it is more respectful for her, and you avoid a BUNCH of potential problems.

Yes, I did offer India, EU and Dubai. With the current conflict going on there, I was not sure how safe it would be for me to go there. Possible, a rookie mistake. I was just concerned about my safety and getting stuck there, if anything escalates with Mr. Putin feeling the pressure because of sanctions and slide in prices of crude oil.

It is my nature not to take undue risks. That approach has served me well over the years. And it is possible that approach may not work here.

One other comment is I'm a law abiding citizen. That is the reason, I offered to pay a one time fee to the agency. There is a limit to how far I can go and spend money when the other party involved does not make any effort to help the cause in a legitimate way. I expect my future partner to be FINANCIALLY RESPONSIBLE and not bankrupt me.

[Brasscasing]

Before you trot off jetMike, two questions please, I don't know if it's the actual woman you chatted with or an agency shill. Which is it?  Please clarify this for us as well as, did the one bedroom for an India trip conversation take place?

Yep. I'm starting to smell a jilted suitor.

Dear,the picture you posted as your main isn't your picture.It's a fake picture from internet. You accuse other people of being fakes but you are a fake by yourself.................................................................. .....................

Solted, how did you come to this conclusion?

Brass

[Patagonie]

Yes, I did offer India, EU and Dubai. With the current conflict going on there, I was not sure how safe it would be for me to go there. Possible, a rookie mistake. I was just concerned about my safety and getting stuck there, if anything escalates with Mr. Putin feeling the pressure because of sanctions and slide in prices of crude oil.

It is my nature not to take undue risks. That approach has served me well over the years. And it is possible that approach may not work here.

You shouldn't date her abroad,
Sooner or later, connected or not, you will have, and without any previous meeting, to HELP her.
The traditional dating in FSU is simple : the man is supposed to pay ALL. You propose : you pay.
So before the meeting you will have to manage all logistics. If the woman is a nice lady and have a good paycheck she will let you know and will help during the process, but by default she is not obliged to do this.
So i let you guess how things can quickly blow away, and after men thinks that they have been scammed, which is not. Just she didn't feel enough the travel, met and other guy (local generally), or want to spend her vacation differently, or the family puts her under pressure .....
I have wasted one round ticket that i put in the trash like this, and lost other 1000 $ an other time. IN both cases i met the ladies in their cities before (and with one i spend i don't know more than 25 hours and she was totally INTO me), and even today i have no proofs or no reasons to believe that they were scammers.
So you t only travel with her when you have dated her, but you travel ONLY when she is your girlfriend. If not you are simply multiplying  the chances to  crash.

Thank you both to have bring some honesty. This gives a lot of informations for any newbies and it is better to know for men and for women, hoping that smart FSU women would also, or could also understand men's viewpoints.

[jetmike74]

You shouldn't date her abroad,
Sooner or later, connected or not, you will have, and without any previous meeting, to HELP her.
The traditional dating in FSU is simple : the man is supposed to pay ALL. You propose : you pay.
So before the meeting you will have to manage all logistics. If the woman is a nice lady and have a good paycheck she will let you know and will help during the process, but by default she is not obliged to do this.
So i let you guess how things can quickly blow away, and after men thinks that they have been scammed, which is not. Just she didn't feel enough the travel, met and other guy (local generally), or want to spend her vacation differently, or the family puts her under pressure .....
I have wasted one round ticket that i put in the trash like this, and lost other 1000 $ an other time. IN both cases i met the ladies in their cities before (and with one i spend i don't know more than 25 hours and she was totally INTO me), and even today i have no proofs or no reasons to believe that they were scammers.
So you t only travel with her when you have dated her, but you travel ONLY when she is your girlfriend. If not you are simply multiplying  the chances to  crash.

Thank you both to have bring some honesty. This gives a lot of informations for any newbies and it is better to know for men and for women, hoping that smart FSU women would also, or could also understand men's viewpoints.

Thanks Bro for your feedback.

It never got far enough to discuss the logistics. I was planning to arrange and pay for everything. That was never a concern for me. My main concern was the refusal to accept my proposal to request her information officially and her insisting on spending money everyday to chat with her. It did not make any sense and raised genuine concerns for me. I would prefer to spend 1000 dollars on a gift for someone I love than a dating agency.

This is my last day of vacation. I will be getting back to work tomorrow. So, all of you will be seeing less of me in the next few days.

Have Fun Guys. Take Care.

[CDW]

Yes, I did offer India, EU and Dubai. With the current conflict going on there,

Not in Ivano-Frankestein  where she comes from!

[AC]

Not in Ivano-Frankestein  where she comes from!

Correct.  Stay around and read some more jetmike74.

[AC]

You shouldn't date her abroad,
Sooner or later, connected or not, you will have, and without any previous meeting, to HELP her.
The traditional dating in FSU is simple : the man is supposed to pay ALL. You propose : you pay.
So before the meeting you will have to manage all logistics. If the woman is a nice lady and have a good paycheck she will let you know and will help during the process, but by default she is not obliged to do this.
So i let you guess how things can quickly blow away, and after men thinks that they have been scammed, which is not. Just she didn't feel enough the travel, met and other guy (local generally), or want to spend her vacation differently, or the family puts her under pressure .....
I have wasted one round ticket that i put in the trash like this, and lost other 1000 $ an other time. IN both cases i met the ladies in their cities before (and with one i spend i don't know more than 25 hours and she was totally INTO me), and even today i have no proofs or no reasons to believe that they were scammers.
So you t only travel with her when you have dated her, but you travel ONLY when she is your girlfriend. If not you are simply multiplying  the chances to  crash.

Thank you both to have bring some honesty. This gives a lot of informations for any newbies and it is better to know for men and for women, hoping that smart FSU women would also, or could also understand men's viewpoints.

 

[notforone]

who are you or what are to suggest me what i should do and what i should not do.Think about it please. What might be possible or not might be possible ends up in your mind if talking about my personality. I explained clearly who i am and what is my purpose. And such thing as your miserable fantasy is far from my interest;)

You haven't posted for like an hour. You're probably in the flower shop counting the money?

If she was bothered about his sexual advances why didn't "she" cut him off? instead "she" wanted him to stay on and continue to pay.

$100 for her contact??? Only morons pay to get contacts. You couldn't produce a girl in India or anywhere else because the girl in the pictures is probably not even local in ivanowhatever.

You didn't make your boss any favors with these posts.