New marriage seeker

[iloveukrayinkas]

Hello there russian women community!! My name's F3r, 30 yrs old, and I'm joining this community
to learn more from FSU women and the way things work in order to get married with
a wonderful russian woman.
I'm kinda sick of cold approaching, the normal dating game, of the club/bar scene and of being introduced to uninteresting women by family and friends. So this is why I'm looking for
a woman who is not only beautiful but that you KNOW she wants to get married and form a family. Of course I'm aware that you have to go through most of the standard dating procedures but perhaps it's easier if you know the other end is ready for marriage also.
I know that taking up a marriage agency for communicating is a BIG step towards finding that special lady so I'll need all the information and advice I can get.
I've already been scammed before by an agency, long story short? It was by Anastasia Rape who denied getting my fiancee(if she even really existed in the first place) on the phone. I tried contacting her like 3 or more times but "they couldn't reach her". I called in to complain but they did nothing in order to set things straight. The lady also told me she had sent me a post card, which NEVER came, so obviously something was very fishy!  Now I'll be very cautious since not everything is as it seems.

So I'll be seeing you guys around and hope that I can help you guys as well.

Have a great day

F3r!

[Muzh]

Well F3r, 

Do some research and ask questions. That's what we are here for.

Also, the unfortunate fact is that majority of agencies are Anastasia Rape so don't expect much difference.

Still, with perseverance you can find yourself your soulmate.

Good luck.

[Larry1]

Welcome to the forum.  It's a good place to learn about searching for a wife in the countries of the former Soviet Union.

I've already been scammed before by an agency, long story short? It was by Anastasia Rape who denied getting my fiancee(if she even really existed in the first place) on the phone. I tried contacting her like 3 or more times but "they couldn't reach her".

How do you have a fiancee whose existence you're not sure of?  How did the two of you become engaged?

[GQBlues]

...How do you have a fiancee whose existence you're not sure of?  How did the two of you become engaged?

...It was by Anastasia Rape who denied getting my fiancee (if she even really existed in the first place) on the phone. I tried contacting her like 3 or more times but "they couldn't reach her". I called in to complain but they did nothing in order to set things straight. The lady also told me she had sent me a post card, which NEVER came, so obviously something was very fishy!  Now I'll be very cautious since not everything is as it seems....

 







Welcome to the MOB!


LOL! It always remind of the silly line in a movie titled Mystery Men. it was during a scene when the group was trying to recruit a new superhero to add to their group, and one candidate came to the desk to apply...

Capt. Furious:    "So, what's your power?"
Invisible Man:    " I'm the Invisible Man!"
Capt. Furious:    "Really?!? How come I can still see you?"
Invisible Man:    "Duh! That's because you're looking!"
Capt. Furious: (puzzled) " OK, let me get this straight...you're the Invisible Man but you become invisible only when no one's looking?"
Invisible Man:     "That's right!!!!"


Are we clear now?

[Lily]

[quote author=iloveukrayinkas link=topic=16232.msg337984#msg337984 
I'm kinda sick of cold approaching, the normal dating game, of the club/bar scene and of being introduced to uninteresting women by family and friends. So this is why I'm looking for a woman who is not only beautiful but that you KNOW she wants to get married and form a family. Of course I'm aware that you have to go through most of the standard dating procedures but perhaps it's easier if you know the other end is ready for marriage also.

 
Cold approaching, you say? Why do you call it cold approaching? How is an online contacting different from what you call cold approach?
 
As a Russian woman, I have no idea about the bar or club scenes. Í probably have to look them up in the old American movies

[JohnDearGreen]

How is "not being able to contact her" a scam?  Did they charge you for attempted phone calls?

As a Russian woman, I have no idea about the bar or club scenes. Í probably have to look them up in the old American movies

In the 70's disco days, about 50% of US couples met in night clubs and bars.  Today it is more like 10%, with 40% meeting online.  Statistics show neither method to be more or less successful than the other.

[lordtiberius]

Welcome Wife Hunter.  My only advice is the following

1) Make your own way and listen to your gut
2) Don't listen to the so called experts they are most depraved degenerates stuck in the 70's and like to dream kill because they can't get over their failures and their own mortality.  These communities can be toxic and the gang stalking and bile is worse than the culture shock, the broken heart and the rip off schemes of Boris and Natasha
3) There are no rules to this but there are best practices
4) if you get a phone call or message to hang out with a Brit who looks like a good looking version of 007 and he invited you to Lucky Pub, go
5) Don't Quit.  If some of the resident idiots can find love in some of the most dangerous places in the world, why should your happiness be any less?

Good luck in your search. 

[Ade]

As a general rule of thumb, my advice would be to ignore most of what lordtiberius says.

[LAman]

Welcome Wife Hunter.  My only advice is the following

5) Don't Quit.  If some of the resident idiots can find love in some of the most dangerous places in the world, why should your happiness be any less?

Good luck in your search.

My, my, can you be talking about yourself???? ))

[Misha]

I'm looking for a woman who is not only beautiful ...I've already been scammed before by an agency

It all depends what you mean by a beautiful woman. A real woman who is beautiful, or a beautiful photo that was taken in a studio, by a photographer and photoshopped to ensure perfection? The two are very different things, and agencies tend to sell illusions based on the latter. However, if you want to meet real women, there are many options including free Russian dating sites and other sites that offer reasonable rates and direct contact so you can get the agency out of the picture ASAP.

[Muzh]

As a general rule of thumb, my advice would be to ignore most of what lordtiberius says.

I'll second that.

[Brianinaz]

I've already been scammed before by an agency, long story short? It was by Anastasia Rape who denied getting my fiancee(if she even really existed in the first place) on the phone.

Fiancee? So, you were engaged to a woman you never met? Wow, if so please stop what you're doing and spend the next couple of months reading other peoples experiences and take notes about what to do and what not to do. Please tell me that was a typo.

[ML]

Fiancee? So, you were engaged to a woman you never met? Wow, if so please stop what you're doing and spend the next couple of months reading other peoples experiences and take notes about what to do and what not to do. Please tell me that was a typo.

I thought it was even  worse; because my Alzheimers was working  I  first read 'phone' as 'plane.'   

[Brianinaz]

I thought it was even  worse; because my Alzheimers was working  I  first read 'phone' as 'plane.'   

Too funny.....I hear a train whistle off in the distance!

[mendeleyev]

Good advice from Lordtiberius. 

[Stirlitz]

I know that taking up a marriage agency for communicating is a BIG step towards finding that special lady so I'll need all the information and advice I can get.

Not really. It can be like running in circles. Like an ass having a carrot attached to its head swinging in front of him. There is a better approach that actually works.

[lordtiberius]

Good advice from Lordtiberius. 

one alibi OP

ALWAYS HEED the words of mendeleyev

[calmissile]

To the OP....

The first thing I would recommend is for you to thoroughly read the free E-Book on this site...

http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?action=ezportal;sa=page;p=47

Secondly, a general consensus exists that newbies should make contact with potential FSUWomen via free sites that do not charge for exchanging letters and also allows you to exchange contact information.  Extensive correspondence on Skype will help sort out the scammers and those just wasting your time.  Even at that, there are no guarantees but it does reduce the risks and allows you (over time) to get to know someones personality, etc.

There is no single approach that works well for everyone and nearly every approach has worked for some people.  Unless you are wealthy, you might find it very expensive to make trips to Ukriane to find your love by chance meeting.

Good Luck

[JohnDearGreen]

Welcome Wife Hunter.  My only advice is the following...

You left one out:
6> Never rent an apartment without a bed.
Bed type: Pull-out Sofa.
 

Pull-out Sofa

[flitabout62]

It all depends what you mean by a beautiful woman. A real woman who is beautiful, or a beautiful photo that was taken in a studio, by a photographer and photoshopped to ensure perfection? The two are very different things, and agencies tend to sell illusions based on the latter. However, if you want to meet real women, there are many options including free Russian dating sites and other sites that offer reasonable rates and direct contact so you can get the agency out of the picture ASAP.

It's always been my experience that women get more attractive physically as my feelings for them develop.  I suspect would be true for many men.  The more important aspect is whether the women matches your personality and you are both interesting enough together to develop the type of relationship that lasts a very long time.   

[mies]

a woman who is not only beautiful but that you KNOW she wants to get married and form a family. Of course I'm aware that you have to go through most of the standard dating procedures but perhaps it's easier if you know the other end is ready for marriage also.

Welcome

The part in bold is the most un-romantic thing I've ever heard in my life. No wonder you have little luck with girls you meet locally.
Second point: why you keep saying that you like Russian women whereas you plan to date Ukrainians?
It's like I'd say "I love Swedish men" while dating Norwegians.

[lordtiberius]

You left one out:
6> Never rent an apartment without a bed.
Bed type: Pull-out Sofa.
 

Pull-out Sofa

So you are saying this place at $ 48 a night is a rip off?

[JohnDearGreen]

So you are saying this place at $ 48 a night is a rip off?

I'm saying swap out the LCD TV for a bed. 
I wouldn't sleep more than one night on a sofa mattress.
UA TV is worthless anyway.

[Anotherkiwi]

I'm saying swap out the LCD TV for a bed. 
I wouldn't sleep more than one night on a sofa mattress.
UA TV is worthless anyway.

Especially if you don't speak Ukrainian or Russian!

[lordtiberius]

I'm saying swap out the LCD TV for a bed. 
I wouldn't sleep more than one night on a sofa mattress.

And you can find a place this nice with for $ 48 a night with a real bed?