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Re: "You can keep your plan" but...
« Reply #100 on: March 03, 2014, 02:44:25 PM »


If you like your language...you can keep your language.



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Re: "You can keep your plan" but...
« Reply #101 on: March 06, 2014, 11:06:27 AM »
Obama Promises Illegals: Obamacare Sign Up Info Won't Be Used for Deportation


read all about it here
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obama-promises-illegals-obamacare-sign-info-wont-be-used-deportation_784228.html
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Re: "You can keep your plan" but...
« Reply #102 on: March 06, 2014, 04:28:23 PM »
Viva El Presidente Baracko salvador de los inmigrantes pobres.
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Re: "You can keep your plan" but...
« Reply #103 on: April 01, 2014, 01:47:26 PM »
Hey Obamacare works...just watch the video just made today.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/video/obama-debunks-health-care-bill-critics-portland-10263858

Oh and by the way..........April fools.
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Re: "You can keep your plan" but...
« Reply #104 on: April 01, 2014, 02:06:22 PM »
Oh and by the way..........April fools.



Good one. Two year old video.
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Re: "You can keep your plan" but...
« Reply #105 on: April 01, 2014, 03:43:31 PM »

Good one. Two year old video.
Now this one is 2 hours old again on April 1...
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This afternoon President Obama, with a grinning Vice President Biden behind him, announced in the White House Rose Garden that sign-ups for his signature health law had exceeded original projections.
  Some 7.1 million Americans have signed up for Obamacare, the president said, by far exceeding the revised projection of 6 million insured after the disastrous roll out of the HealthCare.gov website in October.
The president was clearly enjoying delivering the news: "This law is doing what it's supposed to do," he said. "It's working. It's helping people from coast to coast." He seemed bemused by the continuing efforts of Republicans do undo the legislation. "Why are folks working so hard for people not to have health insurance? Why are they so mad about the idea of people having health insurance?"
Republicans were quick to jump on what a spokesman for House Speaker John Boehner called Obama's "victory lap." "This law continues to harm the American people," said Boehner spokesman Michael Steel. "Every promise the president made has been broken: healthcare costs are rising, not falling. Americans are losing the doctors and plans that they like – especially seniors suffering under President Obama’s Medicare cuts. Small businesses are afraid to hire new workers, hobbling our economic growth. That’s why we must replace this fundamentally flawed law."
But Obama had already brushed off such criticisms.

 http://www.latimes.com/local/abcarian/la-me-ra-obama-aca-signups-surpass-projections-20140401,0,2386687.story#ixzz2xg2rQota
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Re: "You can keep your plan" but...
« Reply #107 on: April 01, 2014, 05:38:46 PM »
Supposedly 7 million people signed up and now Obama is claiming it is a success.  So, roughly, 2 percent of the population signed up and now they are victorious. haha
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Re: "You can keep your plan" but...
« Reply #108 on: April 01, 2014, 08:51:06 PM »
Supposedly 7 million people signed up and now Obama is claiming it is a success.  So, roughly, 2 percent of the population signed up and now they are victorious. haha

What they won't mention is how many of those who signed up are actually *paying* subscribers and how many are the freebies.

Secondly, they extended the sign-up from the original deadline multiple times because of lack of enrolees when all the time they were adamant about delaying the law in Congress last October.

Moreover, the employee mandate is now being changed re: Union complaints.
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Re: "You can keep your plan" but...
« Reply #109 on: April 01, 2014, 08:57:09 PM »
What they won't mention is how many of those who signed up are actually *paying* subscribers and how many are the freebies.

Secondly, they extended the sign-up from the original deadline multiple times because of lack of enrolees when all the time they were adamant about delaying the law in Congress last October.

Moreover, the employee mandate is now being changed re: Union complaints.


Yeah, I know, they are very hush hush about who signed up after all the money they put into the whole process and marketing.  I do know they need to screw over enough youngsters in order to pay for most of that 7 million.  haha


I just find it funny how success is a merely 2% sign up.  Man, I wish I lived in that reality, things would be a lot easier.   :P

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Re: "You can keep your plan" but...
« Reply #110 on: April 01, 2014, 09:02:40 PM »
Wasn't the original driving impetus of this law was the 40/20 million uninsured Americans? What happened to those losers considering only *7 million* signed up?
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Re: "You can keep your plan" but...
« Reply #111 on: April 01, 2014, 09:11:25 PM »
Wasn't the original driving impetus of this law was the 40/20 million uninsured Americans? What happened to those losers considering only *7 million* signed up?


The number keeps changing.  haha  I think they originally had some goal of 7 million sign ups which is why they are claiming success.  Like you said, no one knows how many are paying or not.  I can't see many younger people paying those fees instead of the tax hit next year. 


They are trying to get dems reelected so they need anything to help offset this monstrosity.  I don't have much faith in the voters so it may just work.   :(   I mean, there are suppose to be polls that are stating close to 50% are in favor now.  I don't know how accurate those are but nothing surprises me any longer.

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Re: "You can keep your plan" but...
« Reply #112 on: April 01, 2014, 09:42:12 PM »
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Re: "You can keep your plan" but...
« Reply #113 on: April 01, 2014, 09:51:04 PM »
Tom Coburn's Obamacare comments about Obamacare

When Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla., pointed out that the majority of
cancer centers in the country aren't covered under Obamacare while
arguing that the law's problems go beyond early website issues,
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., dismissed the critique
as too "in the weeds."

Coburn, a medical doctor battling cancer, panned the coverage offered
to cancer patients.

"Nineteen of the cancer centers in this country, only five are covered
under Obamacare," he told the Washington Examiner Tuesday, a data
point he attributed to the low payments the Affordable Care Act provides
for those treatments.

"You know, it's a market, and what they've done is they've priced it
where these cancer centers, a lot of them, aren't going to participate
because they don't get paid to cover the costs," he said. Coburn, who
is retiring at the end of this year, said his cancer center initially refused
to accept the government health insurance, but has since reversed that
policy.

Reid suggested that Coburn was taking too narrow a view of the law.
"Dr. Coburn is very good at getting into the weeds and trying to find
something that he thinks makes sense, but I think we need to look at
the overall context of this bill," he replied when asked about Coburn's
comments during a Senate press briefing. "It really brings a lot of people
in from the cold so that they have the ability to get health insurance,
which they've never had the opportunity [to do] before."

Reid hailed the White House's announcement that seven million people
had enrolled in insurance through Obamacare, but Coburn said the statistic
is a "numbers game."

"You had six million who lost their insurance, how many net new people got
covered? How many who lost their insurance don't have insurance today?"
Coburn asked. "And is it affordable? ... The ones that lost their insurance now
have [Obamacare], and we don't know what that number is. I guarantee you
three-quarters of them are paying a significantly higher cost, have a higher co-pay
and a higher deductible."

http://washingtonexaminer.com/harry-reid-dismisses-cancer-patient-tom-coburns-obamacare-concern/article/2546634
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Re: "You can keep your plan" but...
« Reply #114 on: April 01, 2014, 10:11:43 PM »

but study shows just 858,000 newly insured Americans have paid up!



It's bs that these stats are not open to the public.  So much for transparency.

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Re: "You can keep your plan" but...
« Reply #115 on: April 02, 2014, 08:55:20 AM »
Is it just me, or does it seem like Barack Obama just likes to hear himself talk?
I find myself turning the channel consistently to anything else when he appears on TV in yak mode.
Three more years :deadhorse:
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Re: "You can keep your plan" but...
« Reply #116 on: April 02, 2014, 09:25:32 AM »
Is it just me, or does it seem like Barack Obama just likes to hear himself talk?
I find myself turning the channel consistently to anything else when he appears on TV in yak mode.
Three more years :deadhorse:


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