Looking for a reputable marraige agency

[larryleibo1]

I have used Elena's Models. They have changed their mode and now it is hard to use.

I want some feedback on which cities to look in and which agencies to contact for profiles and to visit.

 

I used one on my visit and was dissapointed in the lack of service and follow through. I spent days with nothing to do after introduction dates were cancellled.

Which cities have been good for you in term of the women?

I also had one girl I met in Belarus.she was from Siberia. we hit it off in Belarus. We got together in Dominican Republic for 2 weeks, but on the last days, she decided that it was not going to work out. Despite everything we had a nice time, but now I need to start again.

 

Larry

[Vaughn]

Why, Larry, except for the nice car, your garage looks just like my livingroom did before my fiance arrived!

Some have a negative opinion about Yoshkar-Ola, but that's where my wife is from, an overnight train ride from Moscow. The train ride, BTW, has been the venue for many a relationship blossoming, mine was no exception. Y-O is a smaller city, maybe 250,000 people, and has a great number of beautiful and available women. Some on these boards will question their levels of education and sophistication - well, they make a case for general superiority of urban girls - fair point, but I could also compare women of Cincinnati, for instance, with women from New York City, and make the case for the Ohio lady. (I'm from New York, so no flak, please) The women I met there on my three visits were all well-spoken, educated, friendly and street-wise. Yes, men have been scammed in Y-O, so its reputation's been tainted like other locales. There are several reputable agencies there, but I'll only mention two of them, since I personally know the owners/managers of each: Natasha Borisova runs Sweethearts, and Larisa Zhukova runs a newer agency called A Y-O Bride. (I am connected financially to neither) Larisa and Natasha run honest businesses. Their translation rates and services were extremely reasonable, and although they rarely failed to remind me of an approaching holiday for gift-giving, they never tried to sell me up on services Elvira and I did not require. After our first visit, we only used the agency for e-mails and an occasional gift of flowers, and pretty much made our own arrangements after that. I personally know seven men who found their wives through these gals, and we all share a positive opinion of them and the ladies they represent. They are smaller in size, but offer nice personal service; hell, they even met my train without having to, nice touch. Contact me privately if I can give you further information.

With all the married guys here, I'm sure there's a wealth of other good agencies to be mentioned.

Vaughn          

[Bruce]

Larry - You should answer some questions about yourself so I could give you my best 2 cents.  What are you looking for in a marriage agency in the FSU ie. what sort of services do you want?  Where are you looking to go?  Do you want one on one service or are you looking for the social or are you looking for the tour approach?  Why are you looking for a marriage agency?  Why am I asking?  Well, maybe you speak Russian well enough to go it alone with or without a guide / interpreter.  Maybe you just want a guide / interpreter to help you out / keep you out of trouble.  How many times have you been to the FSU?  Where have you been?  How much time do you have?  Maybe you have enough time to take a crash language course in a city you may be interested in somewhere in the FSU?  Without details its hard to know what my advice would be for you.  I assume you are looking to meet alot of girls hoping to weed them out to find the future Mrs. Larry.  I hope the girl you pick out appreciates a red vette.

 

[Jack]

Hey Larry, I see we both have similar looking garages!
 
Larry their are many good marriage agency out there. As well their are a lot of not so good agencies. You have agencies who differ in the way they do business. Some agencies sell addresses, some do not. Some agencies require you use only their services when dealing with their ladies, many agencies do not care what interpreters you use or whose flats you rent.
 
In my opinion Larry I think you will have better success in dealing with agencies who will sell you the ladies contact information and allow you to deal with her directly thru whatever means you choose.
 
You will hear of good agencies and bad agencies Larry. Their are many good ladies who have, unknown to them, signed up with a bad agency, just as you have bad women who have signed up with good agencies. Bad girls, good girls, can be with any agency.
 
Some of the better sites to buy ladies addresses from,....
 
The Angleica agency.  www.bluesapphires.net     The owner, a guy from Texas, is a good and honest fella. They work with a lot of independent agencies and most all perform to the standards set forth by mangement. Mangement has and will remove agencies doing funny business and they have done a pretty good job of policing themselves. The only agency in this franchise I would advise caution with today would be an affliate in Lugansk.
 
AFA.   http://amazingrussianbridesonline.com   Lots of new ladies added weekly. Big data base of good ladies. When they are advised of scammers they will usually remove. Biggest negative, very large data base to keep track of.
 
European Connection www.russianladies.com and Anastasia 
http://www.russianbrides.com   Both agencies have lot's of beautiful ladies who they get lot's of attention. The old 80-20 rule really applies here. 80% of all the guys are writing the same 20% of ladies. Their are lot's of diamonds in that 80% group. In my opinion you should buy addresses only from these two sites and avoid the E-700 and Anastasiascamweb services.
 
WorldClass www.world-class.com ,  A Pretty Woman  http://aprettywoman.com , Cherry Blossoms  www.cherry-blossoms.com and Scanna  http://www.scanna.com   

are pretty good sites. Do they have scammers? Sure they have scammers, all agencies do. But they have a lot of sincere ladies. Just use common sense. The 9's and 10's are also looking for 9's and 10's.
 
 


Kharkov

 
www.bridge2bride.com
 
www.kharkovgirls.com
 

www.allukrainebeauties.com
 
Lugansk
 
www.lugan-girl.com
 
www.gloriagency.com  
 
Dnepropetrovsk
 
www.cindyagency.com/
 
www.antina.com
 
Krivoy Rog
 
www.cindyagency.com/
 
www.aukrainianlady.com
 
 
Odessa
 
www.alphadating.com
 

www.premier-v-marriage-agency.com
 
www.loveclub.com.ua
 
www.adam-and-eva.com

 
 
Kiev
 

http://www.bridgeoflove.com.ua/
 
 
Kherson
 
www.khersongirls.com
 
 
St. Petersburg
 

www.fortuna.spb.ru
 
www.ksenia-dating.com
 
www.ikarinter.com
 
 
Moscow
 

www.vestafortune.ru
 
www.moscow-lady.com
 
Tver
 

http://www.lifetimepartners.com/index_ltp.php
 
Ivanono
 
http://www.lifetimepartners.com/index_ltp.php
 
Novosibirsk
 
www.siberianbrides.com
 
 
Volgograd
 


www.anastasya.com
 
http://www.alloc-net.com/
 
Vinnitsa
 
www.ladyorchid.com
 
www.bogdana.net
 

[Stirlitz]

Quite a comprehensive list, but I will dare to add something. Here are the agencies my clients used and were happy:

• www.online-dating-ukraine.com
• www.charming-lady.net
• www.elenasmodels.com
• www.russian-women.net
• www.russian-women-personals.com

[Bruce]

Larry - Jack and Stirlitz have given you alot of leads for buying addresses / agencies to check out.  I do not know how lazy or adventerous you are, if you want to even write girls at all, if you want to visit many or one girl or go to many cities etc.  Vaugn already told you about the city and agencies there, one of which helped him meet his wife.  Jack has not included his own agency www.firstdream.com which is of course a very reputable agency that includes alot of options for you to look at - including highly touted socials, if that is your cup of tea.  Also, I highly recommend www.goldenringbrides.com for as full a full service agency at a reasonable price I believe exists on the market.  Additionally, an interesting service in Tver (Russia) which competes for the lifetimepartners branch of goldenringbrides is www.tverromance.com  I mention tverromance only because the interpreters from lifetimepartners decided to break off from lifetimepartners and form their own agency.  www.behappy2day is another agency in Tver.  This is the agency I used to meet my wife, but from what I understand they have been since engulfed by the long arm of one of the "big three" agencies and are now no longer as reputable as they were when they first started.  In any event, I highly recommend that you give Marc Dayton, from Goldenringbrides a call as well as calling Jack just to listen to their advice concerning the process of finding and marrying a girl from the FSU. 

Of course, until you fill us in on your own situation ie. questions I listed above it is tough to really give you my best advice / answer.

[Bruno]

A lot of good link up there... but why use agency... are you ready for some adventure ? I don't think... "I spent days with nothing to do after introduction dates were cancellled"... you was in FSU and you have stay at hotel... where is the hunting spirit... when you have stay in hotel, hundred of woman was waiting you in disco, in the market, in the street... please move on, take your future in your own hand...

If you wish the quantity, visit http://freepersonals.ru/ ... more of 12000 woman each day... very good place for try to detect scammer... they have several scammer but more of 80% of woman are honest... and it is free...

If you wish stay busy, take part of a official trip... in 1994, i was responsible from a camp in Modolva organised by "Natuur Punt"... a belgium organisation who protect the nature... and the nature was really beautifull... appreciate Moldovan nature below...



I was the only man between all the young ladies... in middle of nowhere... and i was really tired after these 2 week camp ... but i was not here for be married, only for a lot of fun... and two of these lady like bonus :cool:

A agency cannot help to change yourself... you need to learn to be a fighter, to use your time fully, to use all opportunity... Before start again your quest, you need learn why it was misluck... don't allow other to make the work in your place, it is you who wish find a woman, not a agency... Several people have post that the best method for find a RW is to be in Russia... and you was in Russia and you have stay in your hotel... you have miss a real opportunity... if you act like this again, i plan more misluck, agency of not ...

[line]
We got together in Dominican Republic for 2 weeks, but on the last days, she decided that it was not going to work out. Despite everything we had a nice time, but now I need to start again.

[line]

And she have certainly a great time too, free holliday... perfect scammer... she wait the last day for say that you are not the right man... and you wish start again... make the same mistake maybe... analyse yourself and when you feel you ready, start again but not now... first think a little... maybe you can read the thread over "deseperate"

I don't understand the other people who have not see that you have some problem with the process and who send you direct a lot of URL... they have only see the second ligne of your post where you ask about agency but not the rest of the post... Larry is a almost a newbies and we send him back between the wolf, without help him to be ready...

[jb]

I can only hope that Larry isn't sending that photo to prospective brides with his introduction letter.

[Jack]

Yea jb, and I was hoping not a whole lot of 16 and 17 year old boys were reading or they might be interested in attending Bruno's summer camp.

[Bruno]

[line]
I was hoping not a whole lot of 16 and 17 year old boys were reading or they might be interested in attending Bruno's summer camp...

[line]

No chance for the young boy... all the ladies was 18 of more... study at university... and this can was only for woman... i was there for learn to these people how to use material for work in forest ( chain saw, ... and other big material )...

But these ladies have not interest in nature work.... only fun... now, each year, we organize a other type of camp in July... both young woman and young man come in Belgium for learn about our specific nature... these young are from around the world ( last year : ukraine, poland, italia, moldova, roumania, UK, and some of Africa )... but these time, we choose people who make university study in connection with nature...

And in my work of gardener, i have the command of ten man... only me are from Belgium, all other are people are refugee...

This allow me to stay in contact directly with the world... actually, i have two man refugee from russia...  but i know several young refugee woman from russia... it is the first place i have try to search a russian woman... in Belgium

 

[Jack]

Bruno, my mistake. By looking I thought these were some very young looking girls. I thought one, maybe two might be 18.  A few look so young. Ok, guess I will tell my 21 year old son to go ahead and look .

[Marc Dayton]

Well my 2 cent,s id first know what you want then find the service that best fits your needs.

Also the post about 3 agency,s in Tver one of the 3 has made some of the black list site,s so be shere to check all services, and agencys before picking one.

Bruce. I know you mean well, but you should check out some of the black list sites.

 

[Bruno]

Marc, in several case, don't trust black list... several black list are owned by a marriage agency, they put woman from other site... see antiscam.org ... the owner is fired from a other network because he have scam practice... now he is owner from several site and a anti scam site !!!

I can make a long list from bad anti-scam site... don't trust everything you read and search more information... usualy, forum are good place for forge your own meaning...

[Goombah]

Any recommendations on black list sites to use?  

I dream of the day when scammers don't last a week.  Half of us are computer programmers or ex-computer programers - we should be able to come up with something - plug in e-mail, name, letters received, and pattern match!

Kevin

[Marc Dayton]

Bruno,

Well this site is a freind of Kevins that I am thinking about, and 100% the agency that he list in Tver, well lets just say it makes good reading, and you men on the board can make up your own mind,s

[Bruno]

Marc, my big fault... some correction over my previous post ... again the little detail who lead to mistake ... i was speaking about a other antiscan site.... i give the URL of the bad one ...  http://www.anti-scam.org ... and not http://www.antiscam.org

[Marc Dayton]

The point of my post was just toget men to look and see whats out their to help them. Sometimes I see what I belive is bad info. I don't want to say its bad. Just trying to get men to understand that they need to look with their eye's too.

Check all agency no matter what you here about that agency! Its just plain smart.

[Bruce]

Marc, I agree with you completely.   Once I mention an agency (not yours of course - which I believe as I stated is the best full service agency in the business) is "working" with one of the big three agencies that is enough for me to put them on my suspect list for anyone seriously interested in finding a high quality wife from the FSU.   I thought that was quite clear from my post. 

[Jack]

an agency is "working" with one of the big three agencies that is enough for me to put them on my suspect list for anyone seriously interested in finding a high quality wife from the FSU. 

Bruce, when you refer to the big three are you referring to Anastasia, AFA and European Connection?

[Bruce]

Jack - my opinion of the big tour agencies is for any guy to stay away.  I make no bones about it.  Perhaps a newbie who is totally afraid of travel may want to use them - but why use one of the big three when he could accomplish the same with your agency or an agency's like Marcs.  I do not want to name them by name, but they all charge 3000 plus dollars for roughly 10 day trips to different places in the FSU.  OK, it includes travel, but big deal - guys are royally getting hosed by them economically for perhaps lowest chance of all approaches to meet a quality woman.  All for what - eye candy.  We have seen them move through the bigger cities in the FSU to smaller and smaller markets like a plague, ruining the hopes, expectations and opinion of FSU women.  They have been a magnet for girls of low character, ie. prostitutes, green card girls and other scammers.  I have personally been to socials from two of the three agencies and learned the hard way through my own eyes that the chance for me to meet a high character girl was extremely low.  Sure I could have met a beautiful Miss tonight, but I did not come anywhere close to meeting Miss right.  Having met alot of American men on tours and during the time I have used other smaller agencies in the FSU who used the big agencies and were disappointed I believe all three are very similar in that they do not know the women in their program nearly well enough to know anything about the girl's character (heck, sometimes they do not even know if she exists or is a photo), are slow to pull girls photos off their websites, do not check on their girls in anything close to what I would call a frequent manner, often have never met the girl other than when they take a girl's photo at one of their tour events, drive women away from the process by marginalizing women at their events through the cattle market approach.  They just advertise in town that they will be holding a "social" on such a such date to meet American men and that drinks and food will be provided to women who attend in local publications, along with whatever women happened to write / send their photos to their office who live close by.  It is all pot luck.  I would not recommend that any guy trust pot luck when searching for their wife to be in the FSU.  I strongly believe a man, by using a reputable full service marriage agency in the FSU such as Marc's, or by using your agency for ala carte services, to attend your parties or 100% immersion and dedication to your approach, or by getting a translator / guide connected to or who knows the type single women a client is looking for to help him get by with everything are the three best ways for an average guy to find what I term a high quality / character girl from the FSU.  One other point -  I believe purchasing addresses from any of the big three companies is high risk as well.  Though you can find a girl who actually exists, especially with AFA, it still is all up to the guy to do everything he can to know about the girl.  How well is she even checked by any of the big three........................for the occasional girl who drops into their regional office and submits photos, a little.  What percent of girls do they have any follow up conversation what so ever, other to contact when they get "business" from a client I believe is virtually none (maybe a few people in their regional office staff have friends).  Once an agency gets too big, and goes to so many places any sense of the personal service I believe a good agency will provide to both men and women in the process is virtually erased.

[Michelangelo]

Ok, ready for some good news?

On my last two days in Ukraine this week, I could not visit the girl in Zhitimer I had been writing to for 4 months because she was sick with the flu.

So I flew to Keiv and went to one of the "good agencies
" listed on this page.  I first looked through their profiles online and then at their office.  I picked out the most beautiful and attractive girl of about 2000 (according to my taste). I paid 10 bucks for the address, called her up and asked her to dinner.  She said "yes," and we had an amazing night.  I will be getting back to her in the weeks ahead.  So in this case, the agency was a life saver.  But note that they did sell me the address...many agencies will not do this.  Also note that I picked a girl out with level 3 English because I wanted to be alone with her.

[Hryvnia]

Looking for a reputable marriage agency
in Kiev try
 http://www.russian-women-ukraine-brides.com/

[BillyB]

Looking for a reputable marriage agency
in Kiev try
 http://www.russian-women-ukraine-brides.com/

Hryvnia,

Are you posting as another member elsewhere named LGB? Your two posts are similiar in style and that guy has a tendency to revive old threads to "help" people with links to agencies, some leading men to AnastasiaWeb.

[Oiler]

Jack - my opinion of the big tour agencies is for any guy to stay away.  I make no bones about it.  Perhaps a newbie who is totally afraid of travel may want to use them - but why use one of the big three when he could accomplish the same with your agency or an agency's like Marcs.  I do not want to name them by name, but they all charge 3000 plus dollars for roughly 10 day trips to different places in the FSU.  OK, it includes travel, but big deal - guys are royally getting hosed by them economically for perhaps lowest chance of all approaches to meet a quality woman.  All for what - eye candy.  We have seen them move through the bigger cities in the FSU to smaller and smaller markets like a plague, ruining the hopes, expectations and opinion of FSU women.  They have been a magnet for girls of low character, ie. prostitutes, green card girls and other scammers.  I have personally been to socials from two of the three agencies and learned the hard way through my own eyes that the chance for me to meet a high character girl was extremely low.  Sure I could have met a beautiful Miss tonight, but I did not come anywhere close to meeting Miss right.  Having met alot of American men on tours and during the time I have used other smaller agencies in the FSU who used the big agencies and were disappointed I believe all three are very similar in that they do not know the women in their program nearly well enough to know anything about the girl's character (heck, sometimes they do not even know if she exists or is a photo), are slow to pull girls photos off their websites, do not check on their girls in anything close to what I would call a frequent manner, often have never met the girl other than when they take a girl's photo at one of their tour events, drive women away from the process by marginalizing women at their events through the cattle market approach.  They just advertise in town that they will be holding a "social" on such a such date to meet American men and that drinks and food will be provided to women who attend in local publications, along with whatever women happened to write / send their photos to their office who live close by.  It is all pot luck.  I would not recommend that any guy trust pot luck when searching for their wife to be in the FSU.  I strongly believe a man, by using a reputable full service marriage agency in the FSU such as Marc's, or by using your agency for ala carte services, to attend your parties or 100% immersion and dedication to your approach, or by getting a translator / guide connected to or who knows the type single women a client is looking for to help him get by with everything are the three best ways for an average guy to find what I term a high quality / character girl from the FSU.  One other point -  I believe purchasing addresses from any of the big three companies is high risk as well.  Though you can find a girl who actually exists, especially with AFA, it still is all up to the guy to do everything he can to know about the girl.  How well is she even checked by any of the big three........................for the occasional girl who drops into their regional office and submits photos, a little.  What percent of girls do they have any follow up conversation what so ever, other to contact when they get "business" from a client I believe is virtually none (maybe a few people in their regional office staff have friends).  Once an agency gets too big, and goes to so many places any sense of the personal service I believe a good agency will provide to both men and women in the process is virtually erased.

I am new to this forum but not to the RW search as I have searched and gone through almost every type of service in the last few years. What Bruce has said is very true. The mass market networks are not the way to go generally. The prettiest women get tons of lettesr that go directly to the trash bin. Socials are a waste as often the best ones are picked over by preferred insiders. I HATE these networks which have ruined every city they swept through!

The absolute best way to meet a good RW is to have a ex-pat job there if you can swing it. This way you can act normally and are perceived normally by the local people as well.

Since this is not practical for the majority of us who only have 2 to 4 weeks vacation time to spare, one has to be very selective in chosing agencies.

Use the recommendations here, but also ask for references before you use any agency. If they don't reply or are vague, then you can move on to another. This is an important decsion in your life so don't treat it lightly.

Donald

[Oiler]

Marc, in several case, don't trust black list... several black list are owned by a marriage agency, they put woman from other site... see antiscam.org ... the owner is fired from a other network because he have scam practice... now he is owner from several site and a anti scam site !!!

I can make a long list from bad anti-scam site... don't trust everything you read and search more information... usualy, forum are good place for forge your own meaning...

This is very true as on the Internet anyone can post anything. Generally if you get a good cross section of opinions to concur, you could be assured of the truth.