Women with Children - more strongly worded advice

[GQBlues]

I already did in a previous post.  You either didn't want to address it or decided to skip it like many other posts you didn't want to answer.

No you didn't. I asked you this..

"At your leisure, show me exactly where did SP dealt with drugs where people died because of it. Take your time. "

...I'm just hoping to keep firing for as long as humanly possible so I don't worry about blanks. 

Well they are if you have to resort to taking things out of context. I am certain you didn't miss these posts fairly conveniently, yes?

...While I agree neither one approached  their situation commendably, however, one of them made a move in life to better oneself, regardless what other folks think of the manner in which she chose to get that education....

....They both made bad judgments before, and bad decisions are fairly common for young people who figured they got all things in life figured out. But only one of them is still making it today. ...

...As for the stripping, based on what I read, again unless I'm mistaken, stripping was introduced to SP through jmana's sister who already was stripping for money. Based on the income/marriage situation at the time, what normal 19-20 (foreign - likely one who didn't know any better) women who wouldn't had seen just the 'money' temptation of it all considering money was at a premium and with a new born son during their tumultuous marriage AND having your husband actually support it because finding another means for supplemental income in lieu of is not even a consideration..

...I would hazard a guess that very  few decent, respectable married man would entertain allowing their wife strip for the benefit of earning money to pay their bills. I wouldn't, I doubt you would too.

Which now leaves us to what?

...Who ever said it was? certainly not me. What she got OUT of stripping, education, is. You are so caught up with her stripping and never once considered what her situation at the time was. 4 years removed from her own country  with no support system, yet you state what you would do had it been you. I would hope anyone born into this country would already be fully aware of what they can do and their available options in life. But reality dictates otherwise because the fact is, many folks born into this society still do not and many resort to even worst environment SP ever did....

Blank is as blank does, don't it?

[Southpaw1982]

Another stooge who have difficulties reading but unfortunately, one of the mods censored cut my post so you have an excuse if you missed it.

But speaking of hitting the whorehouse during his wife searching trip....is this too an 'inference' or is it fact?

 

I started a new thread in that regard...

[jmana]

But speaking of hitting the whorehouse during his wife searching trip....is this too an 'inference' or is it fact?

What's this?  Did I miss this one?  Please enlighten me!

[GQBlues]

What's this?  Did I miss this one?  Please enlighten me!

Obviously that's not a possibility. Read whose post I quoted.

[jmana]

Obviously that's not a possibility.

No seriously, did she accuse me of going to a whorehouse?  If so, I'd like to know. 

[GQBlues]

No seriously, did she accuse me of going to a whorehouse?  If so, I'd like to know.

Read whose post I quoted, man!

[GQBlues]

I started a new thread in that regard...

Really? Where? 

[jmana]

Really? Where? 

Just search out "porn" and you'll find any thread she starts, because that's apparently the only thing this woman thinks about.

[BillyB]

  So it's not worth trying to agree to anything with her, because this is what she does when we come to an agreement, she goes and does crap behind my back to mess it up!  She's done this every time we've been on good terms. 

I take that as a "no", you're not going to make that call.


How about you southpaw? Can you call jmana, apologize and promise you will never say anything hurtful about jmana again? When you take the high road, you're never wrong.

[LiveFromUkraine]

No you didn't. I asked you this..

"At your leisure, show me exactly where did SP dealt with drugs where people died because of it. Take your time. "

Well they are if you have to resort to taking things out of context. I am certain you didn't miss these posts fairly conveniently, yes?

I already answered that post so you will need to go back, reread and try to comprehend.  I can break it down in smaller sentences for you, ok?
 
You asked me where you posted the ends justifies the means.  I did so... now you are twisting in the wind again trying to cover your ass.

Taking things out of context.  haha  This coming from a guy who accuses a guy of kiddy porn and then simply says she made some mistakes.  Unreal, I can't help but laugh.

[Southpaw1982]

I take that as a "no", you're not going to make that call.


How about you southpaw? Can you call jmana, apologize and promise you will never say anything hurtful about jmana again? When you take the high road, you're never wrong.

Billy, I am already sorry he has to live with himself... He is least of my concerns. I also apologized for leaving him last week ( again)  because it was necessary. I am not sure why he is so mad...?
Even if he had money like he says that is all I care about, it would not help him to keep me, even if we had 3 kids... I would not stay.  We never matched and never meant to be. He can't bully me into submission. He is upset because I brought up a few facts he never mentioned...it pissed me off he misrepresented me as some bimbo with no personality and a bad mother. My motherhood duties do not include pleasing jmana.  It is hard for me to understand you dear men... You push us away and then want us to be a certain way etc etc... Did he ever mentioned we went to a marriage counseling?  Even the therapist said we had to split.  There is nothing there. He needs to learn how to love and let go.

[GQBlues]

I already answered that post so you will need to go back, reread and try to comprehend.  I can break it down in smaller sentences for you, ok?
 
You asked me where you posted the ends justifies the means.  I did so... now you are twisting in the wind again trying to cover your ass....

No you didn't. This is what you said...

"Show me where I said she did.  At your leisure.  Stop being obtuse GQ.  You can see based on the context what I was talking about.  I said it many times I don't agree the ends justify the means and used that as an example."

The context you used was a drug dealer with people dying to support your argument. You're the one being obtuse by using it to support your silly argument because that example is not remotely pertinent, much less similar as a presentation to base your argument in. LOL.

Talk about creative writing and soap operas, yes?

Taking things out of context.  haha  This coming from a guy who accuses a guy of kiddy porn and then simply says she made some mistakes.  Unreal, I can't help but laugh.

That's the best you can do, LIU? Nice try with deflection though. Keep trying. You might even come close to making a point after all.

Did you conveniently and intentionally missed those posts I gave you? Or are you really this dense?

[LiveFromUkraine]

No you didn't. This is what you said...

"Show me where I said she did.  At your leisure.  Stop being obtuse GQ.  You can see based on the context what I was talking about.  I said it many times I don't agree the ends justify the means and used that as an example."

The context you used was a drug dealer with people dying to support your argument. You're the one being obtuse by using it to support your silly argument because that example is not remotely pertinent, much less similar as a presentation to base your argument in. LOL.

Talk about creative writing and soap operas, yes?

That's the best you can do, LIU? Nice try with deflection though. Keep trying. You might even come close to making a point after all.

Did you conveniently and intentionally missed those posts I gave you? Or are you really this dense?

Do try and keep up bro because I will only say this one more time.  I will try and keep sentences short for better comprehension. 


I quoted your post several times.

So how anyone got there matters very little as long as they actually reached where they wanted to go. Educate themselves and get their career. You can think very little of that, so what, jmana thinks so, too.

I said it matters a lot and used the drug dealing as an example.  Cmon dude, you still with me?  Sure you are!  I have faith in you my man.


I stated this before, I stated this again.  Twist brother twist.


I did see those post and all of the posts about how jmana was a kiddy porn addict who whacked off while his stripper wife worked.  It's hard to take anything you say seriously with all of your creative licensing.


Making mistakes is ok as long as you are a woman, eh? 


She made the stripper mistake a couple of times.  She made the marriage mistake 2 times and hopefully she has it nailed now with her 3rd husband.  I even caught her in a lie about it yet you still white knightin the hell out of her. 


Even after all of her mistakes, you suck up every post she makes like a little puppy drinking water for the first time. 



It's all good man.  I have nothing but love but that could be the dope talking.

[GQBlues]

LOL.

So tell me again why use an example that largely has nothing to do with the discussion or what happened between these two?

And you feel as though you actually WERE making a point? Drug dealers / people dying?

If your conviction was solid and grounded to begin with, you need not bring an extreme sampling that has NO RELEVANCE to the discussion. You can't be this weak.

If that wasn't enough, you then introduce that particular case dealing with the gal from Duke University.

Then you extract what I said out of context when all the while there were multiple posts posted counter to what you would like to tag me with.

Try again.

[Southpaw1982]

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I said it matters a lot and used the drug dealing as an example.  Cmon dude, you still with me?  Sure you are!  I have faith in you my man.

She made the stripper mistake a couple of times.  She made the marriage mistake 2 times and hopefully she has it nailed now with her 3rd husband.  I even caught her in a lie about it yet you still white knightin the hell out of her. 



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I never considered stripping a mistake. It was the only high paying skill I had at the time and I helped  everyone with that money. My first marriage was just plain ugly, second one - is none of your business at all. And third one- you are right about that. I nailed it. No porno debiles here. Lol

When did I lie to you? I don't recall. Ask again.

[LiveFromUkraine]

LOL.

So tell me again why use an example that largely has nothing to do with the discussion or what happened between these two?

And you feel as though you actually WERE making a point? Drug dealers / people dying?

If your conviction was solid and grounded to begin with, you need not bring an extreme sampling that has NO RELEVANCE to the discussion. You can't be this weak.

If that wasn't enough, you then introduce that particular case dealing with the gal from Duke University.

Then you extract what I said out of context when all the while there were multiple posts posted counter to what you would like to tag me with.

Try again.

Your right dude, taking your clothes off for strangers, grinding on them and on poles for dollar bills is nothing like porn.  You got me there.


Don't I feel silly.

[GQBlues]

Your right dude, taking your clothes off for strangers, grinding on them and on poles for dollar bills is nothing like porn.  You got me there.


Don't I feel silly.

LOL. There you go again...ditch, deflect and run...

[LiveFromUkraine]

I never considered stripping a mistake. It was the only high paying skill I had at the time and I helped  everyone with that money. My first marriage was just plain ugly, second one - is none of your business at all. And third one- you are right about that. I nailed it. No porno debiles here. Lol

That's cool if you don't believe it was a mistake.   You certainly don't make it sound like it was a terrible experience for you unless you are trying to paint your ex in a bad light.  Then it seems it was a problem.  You can't have it both ways.



You're making it all of our business when you post on here.

[LiveFromUkraine]

LOL. There you go again...ditch, deflect and run...

Maybe you need a nap.  You seem to be having a hard time understanding.

[GQBlues]

Maybe you need a nap.  You seem to be having a hard time understanding.

Same as above. Ditch, deflect and run. Drug dealers and people dying...LOL.

[Southpaw1982]

Your right dude, taking your clothes off for strangers, grinding on them and on poles for dollar bills is nothing like porn.  You got me there.


Don't I feel silly.

Well, jmana was cool with it apparently. Do u think I cared about a dead end relationship? Lol  I made the best out of that crap and moved on. Before I ever even had sex with him I found a printed image of a man defecating on a woman's face and he made me watch "pink flamingos" with him. Just saying.

[LiveFromUkraine]

Same as above. Ditch, deflect and run. Drug dealers and people dying...LOL.

Hey man, just going based on your logic which means as long as those drug dealers are getting educated it's all good.  Jmana should have been taking a class on porn and everything would have worked out.

[LiveFromUkraine]

Well, jmana was cool with it apparently. Do u think I cared about a dead end relationship? Lol  I made the best out of that crap and moved on. Before I ever even had sex with him I found a printed image of a man defecating on a woman's face and he made me watch "pink flamingos" with him. Just saying.

That's part of your problem, you call your relationship with jmana a dead end when you both share a son together.  You can keep the gross stuff to yourself, I don't believe your stories and don't need to visualize that nonsense.


Both of you guys are self centered and should never have been parents.

[GQBlues]

Hey man, just going based on your logic which means as long as those drug dealers are getting educated it's all good.  Jmana should have been taking a class on porn and everything would have worked out.

Fair enough, Live.

'Pink flamingo'?

[LiveFromUkraine]

'Pink flamingo'?

Only when I take acid man.