Women with Children - more strongly worded advice

[Southpaw1982]

That's cool if you don't believe it was a mistake.   You certainly don't make it sound like it was a terrible experience for you unless you are trying to paint your ex in a bad light.  Then it seems it was a problem.  You can't have it both ways.



You're making it all of our business when you post on here.

Please, not trying to paint anyone into anything. He has already screwed himself. My problem was not the jobs I had to work, my problem was his attitude. Like he would be very indirect saying that he bounced his account and we had no money for groceries, then my mom would be whining and saying she had to go back to hospital to run some tests, stuff like that. It Was just easier to suck it up and do what I had to do to take care of business. But if you choose to . . . because of that, you are not taken seriously by me. There was much bigger picture... Beyond your understanding unfortunately...
 

[GQBlues]

Only when I take acid man. 

Well, sue me...I had to Google the damned thing. 

[LiveFromUkraine]

Well, sue me...I had to Google the damned thing. 

Ok, I think I am missing something now.  I don't know what that is and I don't want to google it because I'm scared.


Yeah, I missed that in her post.  I stopped reading when she talked about defecation.      I would rather be ignorant on this one

[Southpaw1982]

That's part of your problem, you call your relationship with jmana a dead end when you both share a son together.  You can keep the gross stuff to yourself, I don't believe your stories and don't need to visualize that nonsense.


Both of you guys are self centered and should never have been parents.

Don't. I know what happened in my life. You don't visualize half of it. Stop spending time on it then.

[GQBlues]

Ok man, I think I am missing something now.  I don't know what that is and I don't want to google it because I'm scared.


Yeah, I missed that in her post.  I stopped reading when she talked about defecation.   

Yeah...the first thought to come to mind was that comedy flick. I can't think of that actor's name though not Leslie Neilson.

 

Just now remembered. The 'Pink Panther' first came to mind.
 

[Southpaw1982]

Ok, I think I am missing something now.  I don't know what that is and I don't want to google it because I'm scared.


Yeah, I missed that in her post.  I stopped reading when she talked about defecation.      I would rather be ignorant on this one

I posted pictures. You refuse to take my word, hell with it, you can't ignore the evidence

[LiveFromUkraine]

I posted pictures. You refuse to take my word, hell with it, you can't ignore the evidence

Well, I gotta admit, you have me wondering now just for the fact there is a Pink Flamingo.  I believed the porn stuff because he even admitted it.  I thought it was just regular porn if there is such a thing.  Not any Pink birds or other raunchy stuff. 


I am sad now because I feel like I lost my innocence.


Interesting talk about porn and shows how porn can mess you up.

[LiveFromUkraine]

Yeah...the first thought to come to mind was that comedy flick. I can't think of that actor's name though not Leslie Neilson.

 

Just now remembered. The 'Pink Panther' first came to mind.

Yeah, Pink Panther with Peter Sellers.

[Southpaw1982]

Well, I gotta admit, you have me wondering now just for the fact there is a Pink Flamingo.  I believed the porn stuff because he even admitted it.  I thought it was just regular porn if there is such a thing.  Not any Pink birds or other raunchy stuff. 


I am sad now because I feel like I lost my innocence.


Interesting talk about porn and shows how porn can mess you up.

He even admitted he watched soilders getting beheaded in Irag because he was "bored"... Didn't that worry you at all? Then he says I am boring... Yeah, I am boring... I don't want that thing in my butt or no thanks, I don't want to pee on you kind of boring. What is next? I am sorry, I have to keep an eye on him to make sure he doesn't pull anything funky on our son...
Gosh, I am really mad at myself... I am done with this topic already I need to just stop posting.. and pray...

[BillyB]

pray...

Praying is not going to help when you won't help yourself. Forgive and forget. That was one of the answers to your prayers a long time ago. You want a miracle? God gave you some, your brain and the ability to make choices. There was no reason for you and jmana to be fighting here which opened you both up for criticism and ridicule. Remember after your first post you and jmana talked on the phone, cleared confusion, were not going to bring up unpleasant memories, and told us it was none of our business? That didn't go too well. It's not too late for you guys to get back on the phone again and agree to never bring up unpleasant memories. You both have the intelligence to know what's best. Do you have the maturity to accomplish it?

[Muzh]

There's been far too many posts in this thread the past day or so to keep up with.
Can someone please write a synopsis of the salient parts for me? 

That would be like asking for the Cliff Notes for War & Peace. 

[Muzh]

If you've seen a Jerry Springer show..... enough said 

Heh, that didn't stop you from watching AND clapping in approval of burning her at the stake. 

[jmana]

Please, not trying to paint anyone into anything. He has already screwed himself. My problem was not the jobs I had to work, my problem was his attitude. Like he would be very indirect saying that he bounced his account and we had no money for groceries, then my mom would be whining and saying she had to go back to hospital to run some tests, stuff like that. It Was just easier to suck it up and do what I had to do to take care of business. But if you choose to . . . because of that, you are not taken seriously by me. There was much bigger picture... Beyond your understanding unfortunately...

OMG, when the F did we EVER not have groceries???  You are the biggest liar I've ever known, congrats for making that milestone.  And printed out pics of people pooping on each other?  WTF are you talking about??  You are an idiot, and your sense of reality is warped.  Yeah I watched Pink Flamingos by John Waters, so did millions of other people, I have it on DVD, it's a great movie!  I highly recommend it    It's a brilliant and biting satire of society's obsession with fame and the lengths one will go to in order to achieve it.  Kind of reminds me of you and how far you were willing to go for fame, even willing to take your clothes off for photographers in hopes it would make you famous.  You aren't that far off from those people depicted in that movie now that I think about it....

[Gator]

Even after all of her mistakes, you suck up every post she makes like a little puppy drinking water for the first time. 

Go ahead LFU, say "Good Boy GQ"  and tickle his tummy. 

Your reasoning in this discussion has impressed me, particularly your directness in phrasing it.

[Southpaw1982]

OMG, when the F did we EVER not have groceries???  You are the biggest liar I've ever known, congrats for making that milestone.  And printed out pics of people pooping on each other?  WTF are you talking about??  You are an idiot, and your sense of reality is warped.  Yeah I watched Pink Flamingos by John Waters, so did millions of other people, I have it on DVD, it's a great movie!  I highly recommend it    It's a brilliant and biting satire of society's obsession with fame and the lengths one will go to in order to achieve it.  Kind of reminds me of you and how far you were willing to go for fame, even willing to take your clothes off for photographers in hopes it would make you famous.  You aren't that far off from those people depicted in that movie now that I think about it....

In 2004 when you were begging me to pay  $400 for food order with Cisco using my dance money. I have that note. What me to post that too?
People pooping on each other, I did not make it up. I found that in your filing cabinet...You even brought it to work to show guys at Bellefonte job ( Cerro Metals, I believe) ...is that why you got fired? For bringing disturbing images to work? You Amazing TY membership... LOL you are the one that is whacked. Have fun with that.

I did not know you stalked my nude image on the beach, it was taken by my husband for my port ( I was not completely nude/exposed, I had little sticky petals covering  privates and it was not because I wanted fame, wbut your opinion does not matter, you are nobody!)
What part of, "even if you had million bucks, I would not want anything to do with you" don't you understand? 

I have nothing to gain by lying. Just sharing my experience... Heck with you...the evidence remains lol

[Southpaw1982]

Praying is not going to help when you won't help yourself. Forgive and forget. That was one of the answers to your prayers a long time ago. You want a miracle? God gave you some, your brain and the ability to make choices. There was no reason for you and jmana to be fighting here which opened you both up for criticism and ridicule. Remember after your first post you and jmana talked on the phone, cleared confusion, were not going to bring up unpleasant memories, and told us it was none of our business? That didn't go too well. It's not too late for you guys to get back on the phone again and agree to never bring up unpleasant memories. You both have the intelligence to know what's best. Do you have the maturity to accomplish it?

Billy, he can't...he has to have the last word...lol

I don't have to be nice to him, my opinion will never change, I know what I saw and based on that evidence I formed my opinion of him a long time ago. OK? I will not go back and change it now. He will be caught by HSI someday. He can run, but he can't hide...Truth always comes out, you can defend him all you want Billy, it will not change who he is unless he gets some help regarding his extreme porn issue.

[jmana]

In 2004 when you were begging me to pay  $400 for food order with Cisco using my dance money. I have that note. What me to post that too?
People pooping on each other, I did not make it up. I found that in your filing cabinet...You even brought it to work to show guys at Bellefonte job ( Cerro Metals, I believe) ...is that why you got fired? For bringing disturbing images to work? You Amazing TY membership... LOL you are the one that is whacked. Have fun with that.

I did not know you stalked my nude image on the beach, it was taken by my husband for my port ( I was not completely nude/exposed, I had little sticky petals covering  privates and it was not because I wanted fame, wbut your opinion does not matter, you are nobody!)
What part of, "even if you had million bucks, I would not want anything to do with you" don't you understand? 

I have nothing to gain by lying. Just sharing my experience... Heck with you...the evidence remains lol

Begging you?  I never begged you for anything.  And you making it seem like we didn't have food to eat so you went and stripped, is a hell of a lot different than asking you (after 2 years of you stripping) to give me some money to help the restaurant I just opened stay afloat rather than you constantly sending it to your mother so she can party and feed her alcohol addiction.  And no, I never got fired from any job, more lies out of your ugly mouth.  I was laid off, and I had a new job within a week.  And no, I never searched out anything about you, I could care less, it was other people that came to me with all the pictures you had online, people that couldn't believe how stupid you were to post stuff like that were your son could find it.  It wasn't me either that found out you had several profiles on thedirty.com!  Talk about sleazy. 

[jmana]

unless he gets some help regarding his extreme porn issue.

You are such an idiot.

[Gator]

Yeah I watched Pink Flamingos by John Waters, so did millions of other people, I have it on DVD, it's a great movie!  I highly recommend it    It's a brilliant and biting satire of society's obsession with fame and the lengths one will go to in order to achieve it. 

Pink Flamingos is a notorious film.  I watched it in the 1970s as part of the experimentation my generation was embracing.  The film had many perverse acts.  I believe those who rave about it see more than what is actually there. 

I doubt that a recent immigrant from the FSU could grasp the campy theme, particularly at the end when a fat drag queen picks up a real, fresh dog turd and puts it in her mouth.  Divine admits this was not in the script (assuming there was a script).  She/he/it simply got caught up in the moment and ad-libbed.

 
You describe this as a "great film."   I assert few people will agree with you.  So what are the odds that an 18-yo from Eastern European culture would understand it, much less like it.  It was too much.  And on top of this it seems that you have shown coprophagia photos to her.    Not only idiotic, it harmed the goal of building a loving relationship with Southpaw.    It really bothered her, so much that she still talks about it 12 years later.   

You seem to have a good side such as taking on the responsibility of raising a young boy.  And I guess you were doing this alone when he was really young and needed much attention.  That's splendid.  Then you have a darkside - this interest in the extreme.  If you are still  intrigued by the  eating of shit, seek help.  If not, how do you convince Southpaw you are a changed man?   

[Muzh]

Don't worry, there are men here that will automatically accept what you say because you're a woman.  They say they believe in equality but it's a farce when in reality they automatically take up the side of a woman.   These men are more like drama queens and need to make up things to help support their fragile egos.   

LMFAO
 
I think you got that backwards. Only men with frail egos will immediately suspect the woman, especially if she is a no-nonsense type, because these women are threatening to their manhood.
 
Everytime I see a man being accusatory of "sassy" women all I have to do is look at what they post and how docile they like their women.
 
You don't have to submit women to prove you are a man.
 

[Southpaw1982]

Begging you?  I never begged you for anything.  And you making it seem like we didn't have food to eat so you went and stripped, is a hell of a lot different than asking you (after 2 years of you stripping) to give me some money to help the restaurant I just opened stay afloat rather than you constantly sending it to your mother so she can party and feed her alcohol addiction.  And no, I never got fired from any job, more lies out of your ugly mouth.  I was laid off, and I had a new job within a week.  And no, I never searched out anything about you, I could care less, it was other people that came to me with all the pictures you had online, people that couldn't believe how stupid you were to post stuff like that were your son could find it.  It wasn't me either that found out you had several profiles on thedirty.com!  Talk about sleazy.

Oh, let's bring my dead mother up...Get a life lol  And you are just so "beautiful" lol and so honest...Watching porn and doing drugs, watching pink flamingos and solders to get their head chopped off for your country...Then leaving porn links on your son's phone make it totally ok, because you are so perfect...Ahhh...
Just because I had a son, my life isn't over... and I am happy that I am in a good shape. And what was posted is not porn like there is no cucumber in my butt and nothing is exposed like the stuff you are into.

So you can go and screw 19 y. o hookers it makes it totally ok... I do have haters, sure...More successful I am more haters I will have LOL Not worried about it lol   

[Muzh]

It didn't accidentally popped up.  He was on a site that was either a porn site or was tied enough to porn it would pop up those kind of things.

Oh, like cookies?

[jmana]

Pink Flamingos is a notorious film.  I watched it in the 1970s as part of the experimentation my generation was embracing.  The film had many perverse acts.  I believe those who rave about it see more than what is actually there. 

I doubt that a recent immigrant from the FSU could grasp the campy theme, particularly at the end when a fat drag queen picks up a real, fresh dog turd and puts it in her mouth.  Divine admits this was not in the script (assuming there was a script).  She/he/it simply got caught up in the moment and ad-libbed.

 
You describe this as a "great film."   I assert few people will agree with you.  So what are the odds that an 18-yo from Eastern European culture would understand it, much less like it.  It was too much.  And on top of this it seems that you have shown coprophagia photos to her.    Not only idiotic, it harmed the goal of building a loving relationship with Southpaw.    It really bothered her, so much that she still talks about it 12 years later.   

You seem to have a good side such as taking on the responsibility of raising a young boy.  And I guess you were doing this alone when he was really young and needed much attention.  That's splendid.  Then you have a darkside - this interest in the extreme.  If you are still  intrigued by the  eating of shit, seek help.  If not, how do you convince Southpaw you are a changed man?

First of all, it's a great film in that John Waters basically said he didn't give a crap about convention, and made a film that was so off the wall, so weird, that at the time nobody understood it.  It's full of bad acting, it's poorly filmed, the script sucks, but it proved that he could make a movie for next to nothing ($10,000) and turn a very good profit on it, and to this day it is a cult classic and people still watch it.  How many other $10,000 films from that era do people still watch??  Was it a great movie to show someone with zero sense of humor?  No.  But at the time I didn't know she had no sense of humor.  Also, this whole thing about "showing" photos to her.  I really don't even know what she is talking about.  I do know that she went through all my stuff when I was at work, so it's hard to tell what she found, or what she thinks she found    I've never had anyone invade my privacy like she did.  She'd go through my computer on a daily basis looking for anything to bust me on.  I feel bad for her 3rd hubby, I can see why the 2nd one went back to drinking so quick after he married her.   

[jmana]

.Watching porn and doing drugs, watching pink flamingos and solders to get their head chopped off for your country...

Oh yes, that's all I do, watch porn, do drugs, watch pink flamingos, and look at soldiers getting their heads chopped off.  In fact that's what's on my computer at all times, a constant loop of girls with cucumbers in their butts, and soldiers getting their heads chopped off.  Whoops, there goes another head, hahaaha!!!  Oh, and another cucumber right up the poop shoot!  Wow I could do this all day, if it weren't for the drugs getting in the way, and the pink flamingos, forgot about that, gotta watch the pink flamingos.  Yeah, I really hope someday you realize how crazy you really are.

[Southpaw1982]

First of all, it's a great film in that John Waters basically said he didn't give a crap about convention, and made a film that was so off the wall, so weird, that at the time nobody understood it.  It's full of bad acting, it's poorly filmed, the script sucks, but it proved that he could make a movie for next to nothing ($10,000) and turn a very good profit on it, and to this day it is a cult classic and people still watch it.  How many other $10,000 films from that era do people still watch??  Was it a great movie to show someone with zero sense of humor?  No.  But at the time I didn't know she had no sense of humor.  Also, this whole thing about "showing" photos to her.  I really don't even know what she is talking about.  I do know that she went through all my stuff when I was at work, so it's hard to tell what she found, or what she thinks she found    I've never had anyone invade my privacy like she did.  She'd go through my computer on a daily basis looking for anything to bust me on.  I feel bad for her 3rd hubby, I can see why the 2nd one went back to drinking so quick after he married her.   

My third hubby feels bad you and he does not watch porn and has no addictions like that. My second hubby had a drinking problem to begin with and he helped me a lot in life. Is this really necessary to address irrelevant stuff to the subject? Why are you attacking my character? What the f did I ever do to you other than just left you alone with your fantasies?