Women with Children - more strongly worded advice

[Southpaw1982]

Oh yes, that's all I do, watch porn, do drugs, watch pink flamingos, and look at soldiers getting their heads chopped off.  In fact that's what's on my computer at all times, a constant loop of girls with cucumbers in their butts, and soldiers getting their heads chopped off.  Whoops, there goes another head, hahaaha!!!  Oh, and another cucumber right up the poop shoot!  Wow I could do this all day, if it weren't for the drugs getting in the way, and the pink flamingos, forgot about that, gotta watch the pink flamingos.  Yeah, I really hope someday you realize how crazy you really are.

I am very-very-very disturbed by what I have seen while I was married to you. I don't know who you are now! All I see you act like a childish freak trying to cover what happened. Which makes me even more worried, because I am hoping you have finally canceled your "Amazing TY"  membership.

[LiveFromUkraine]

LMFAO
 
I think you got that backwards. Only men with frail egos will immediately suspect the woman, especially if she is a no-nonsense type, because these women are threatening to their manhood.
 
Everytime I see a man being accusatory of "sassy" women all I have to do is look at what they post and how docile they like their women.
 
You don't have to submit women to prove you are a man.

Nah, I think I got it right.  I wouldn't know about women submitting since all of my relationships have been with what you call "sassy" women. 

You were the one talking about making your sister submit to what you want if she decided to be a stripper.  Maybe that is why you keep talking about submitting women because deep down that is what gets the old noodle going for ya.

Another failed attempt at storytelling gramps.  Try again and this time I hope you can do better for your own ego's sake.  It's funny how transparent you are.  You are all about equality but some woman comes online and your lose your balls immediately.  Funny and sad dude. 

[GQBlues]

...I have nothing to gain by lying. Just sharing my experience... Heck with you...the evidence remains lol

...and that pretty much should sum up all these, SouthPaw. This thing we call the MOB is a casserole of misfits, social rejects, and losers. The likelihood of meeting/finding one of these roaming the streets of any MOB region is fairly high. jmana was young and still is today. Hopefully in time things will get mellow with him or someone like him.

One of the worst thing I believe in this pursuit aren't just the typical losers, but those that are in the late 60s and 70s that actually believe their presence in a *marriage* has anymore use other than their bank accounts. These guys will always have to live with the fact they are one nice pair of shoes away from dying alone.

They are immediately followed by the career MOBers. Marry one, then divorce, then back to the MOB. Their lives are showered with women-repellant at home and their only source and chance for any type of gender interaction are in the MOB and whorehouses.

And yes, these gorillas are in the midst.

(un)fortunately, jmana will always be the father of your child. Drop the hostility with him for the sake of your son. His only connection with you is your son. You're no longer obligated to breathe a breath in your day for his benefit any longer. Sometimes the very best 'revenge' is not saying anything, just him knowing what you think of him and be done with that. Silence can sometimes be far more telling and lethal.

Good luck and stay around a while but be done with this thread.

I'm curious however about something. If you already addressed this and I didn't see it before, kindly repeat it for me. How did you find this site and this thread?

[jmana]

My third hubby feels bad you and he does not watch porn and has no addictions like that. My second hubby had a drinking problem to begin with and he helped me a lot in life. Is this really necessary to address irrelevant stuff to the subject? Why are you attacking my character? What the f did I ever do to you other than just left you alone with your fantasies?

Watching porn and being addicted to it are 2 different things, I don't know why you can't understand that concept.  And if he's telling you he's never looked at porn, well he's lying.  And I'd be a little concerned quite frankly if he's telling the truth

[jmana]

I am very-very-very disturbed by what I have seen while I was married to you. I don't know who you are now! All I see you act like a childish freak trying to cover what happened. Which makes me even more worried, because I am hoping you have finally canceled your "Amazing TY"  membership.

I don't even know what the hell you are talking about.  I don't and never had a membership to anything.  Why would I pay for anything anyway??  And what's up with you and "Amazing TY"??  Now I'll have to google it to see what it is, because you seem obsessed with it, must be some good sh_t.

[jmana]

I'm curious however about something. If you already addressed this and I didn't see it before, kindly repeat it for me. How did you find this site and this thread?

Because she's always looking to stir up crap with me, that's how.  She'll stalk me out (and anyone I'm in a relationship with) till the day she dies.

[Muzh]

Go ahead LFU, say "Good Boy GQ"  and tickle his tummy. 

Your reasoning in this discussion has impressed me, particularly your directness in phrasing it.

Lame. 

[Southpaw1982]

Watching porn and being addicted to it are 2 different things, I don't know why you can't understand that concept.  And if he's telling you he's never looked at porn, well he's lying.  And I'd be a little concerned quite frankly if he's telling the truth

You speak for my husband now? I have been with him for 3 years before we married, he never looked a porn even once, he has been exposed to some magazine in the past, but never intentionally looked at it daily like you did or do, who knows now? Now, that is a real man and I am very lucky.

[BillyB]

Truth always comes out, you can defend him all you want Billy, it will not change who he is unless he gets some help regarding his extreme porn issue.

I'm not defending him. I've already assigned jmana the majority of the blame for your marriage falling apart. As head of the household, he shouldn't have allowed certain things to happen that eroded the marriage.

he has to have the last word...lol

From my point of view, it seems you both want to have the last word. It's also apparent you both refuse to change your behavior. Your son will see these hostilities and may have to choose sides or reject you both.


Did you enjoy the support you received here? Do you enjoy seeing people join you in bashing your ex on the internet? What value are you getting from it? Interaction with your ex during visitation exchanges won't be pleasant. Someday your son may repeat his parent's mistakes and waste his life away in part because you two seem incapable of moving on and getting over it. He doesn't have a parent that he can respect an learn from.


 Some people have enabled you two to continue your fight with support. Some people have given you both good advice to stop and move on. You mention the word "pray" a few times so I take it you have faith in God. Have you heard "You reap what you sow?" If you plant a bad seed in life, you're going to get bad results. Think about what you both need to do to get good results.

[jmana]

You speak for my husband now? I have been with him for 3 years before we married, he never looked a porn even once, he has been exposed to some magazine in the past, but never intentionally looked at it daily like you did or do, who knows now? Now, that is a real man and I am very lucky.

What, do you check his history on a daily basis when he's at work like you did with me?  Oh that's right, you're with him 24/7.  Poor guy. 

[Southpaw1982]

I don't even know what the hell you are talking about.  I don't and never had a membership to anything.  Why would I pay for anything anyway??  And what's up with you and "Amazing TY"??  Now I'll have to google it to see what it is, because you seem obsessed with it, must be some good sh_t.

Look at that picture...It says updated daily... It used to be your phone and you gave it to our kid...wtf is wrong with you?

[LiveFromUkraine]

What, do you check his history on a daily basis when he's at work like you did with me?  Oh that's right, you're with him 24/7.  Poor guy.

Just because you are doing something doesn't mean everyone else is doing it.   There are people who do not watch porn.  This is called projection. 


You are an adult and if you get into legal porn that is your business.  You just need to protect your son from that stuff.  Watch the video I posted, because it isn't healthy over the long term.  Especially if you are into that nasty stuff that was posted earlier.


It won't help your relationships.

[die_cast]

First of all, it's a great film

Ok, people, you got my attention, let's read the description:
http://www.kinopoisk.ru/film/22292/

Жуткая, гротескная Бэбс Джонсон живет на стоянке трейлеров со своим неполноценным сынком Крэкерсом и отвратительной Мамой Эди, помешанной на яйцах. Все согласны, что Бэбс — самая «грязная тварь в этом мире»; ее статус вызывает зависть торговцев детьми на черном рынке. Они дают обет, что будут еще «грязнее», чем их соперница. Начинается соревнование, включающее поджог, скотоложество, каннибализм, кастрацию и копрофагию…

(...  Starts contest, including arson, bestiality, cannibalism, castration and coprofagia...)

You are kidding, right? Fool's Day was yesterday, but it's ok if you keep joking.
Great movie? With extremely ugly woman as a main character and bestiality, cannibalism, castration and coprofagia??? "Godfather", "The Shawshank Redemption", "The Green Mile", "Forrest Gump", "A Beautiful Mind", "The Matrix", "Hachi: A Dog's Tale"... that's what people call the "great movie"...
"Pink Flamingos" is a piece of shit.

It's full of bad acting, it's poorly filmed, the script sucks, but it proved that he could make a movie for next to nothing ($10,000) and turn a very good profit on it, and to this day it is a cult classic and people still watch it.

That fact the world is full of insane people and people with mental issues who like to watch it doesn't make it a great movie.

Was it a great movie to show someone with zero sense of humor?

Zero sense of toilet humour. It's actually normal thing for people with certain level of intelligence. They just don't find bestiality, cannibalism, castration and coprofagia funny, they find it disgusting.

jmana, did you already watch "Pink Flamingos" with your religious violoncellist Alina? Did you check if she get this kind of "humour"?

[Southpaw1982]

What, do you check his history on a daily basis when he's at work like you did with me?  Oh that's right, you're with him 24/7.  Poor guy.

He gave me all the access to his emails and devices with all the passwords, I don't have to check it, because I trust him... There is no eerie feelings that I might find anything like the feeling I had while married to u...  He does not think he is a "poor guy" though... It is quite the opposite... lol Eat your greens... lol 

[Southpaw1982]

Because she's always looking to stir up crap with me, that's how.  She'll stalk me out (and anyone I'm in a relationship with) till the day she dies.

LOL don't flatter yourself freak , I was looking for Natasha Bragg, and came across this thread.
 I found her on FB

[Southpaw1982]

...and that pretty much should sum up all these, SouthPaw

(un)fortunately, jmana will always be the father of your child. Drop the hostility with him for the sake of your son. His only connection with you is your son. You're no longer obligated to breathe a breath in your day for his benefit any longer. Sometimes the very best 'revenge' is not saying anything, just him knowing what you think of him and be done with that. Silence can sometimes be far more telling and lethal.

It is very unfortunate...Poor kid...
Exactly, I am not longer obligated to please this creep. But watch, he will keep trying to bully more. He has nothing better to do.

[Gator]

Heh, that didn't stop you from watching AND clapping in approval of burning her at the stake. 

Did hammer suggest such?

You (Muzh), GQ, and RW applaud Southpaw for what she has accomplished to advance her life after the divorce.  Guess what?  I too applaud her for that.
   
Muzh, GQ and the RW seem to say she is innocent with regard to causing family strife, suggesting it is totally jmana's fault.    This is where I diasagree.  I consider Southpaw shares some culpability with jmana.  She is no angel. 

How much culpability?  I. e, who is most to blame?  We don't have all the facts, yet I say "jmana."   Why?  As the host spouse for an intercultural marriage, it is his responsibility  to mentor her and to facilitate her adjustment and assimilation.  He failed. 

Even if there were financial problems as happens with many couples,  something with jmana's help and guidance could have been done.  Maybe not immediately, but certainly faster with less difficulty than the path she followed.   What I found sad is that  she tried to be affectionate in the beginning, and jmana pushed her away.  Then he does stuff like showing her Pink Flamingos.

Before you burn jmana at the stake, it needs to be recognized that he did accept the huge responsibility for raising their son and so far seems to have accomplished it.    You suggested to me earlier that the $500/month from Southpaw covers her share, and I assert based on my experience that it covers a small percentage of the cost.  And then there is jmana's time.   

Overall, this is a sad episode.  I wonder most about how the boy is doing, and so far neither parent has revealed anything.    Do they care, or is this just about the two of them condemning each other?  If the latter, that is more than sad.  It's tragic. 

[Southpaw1982]

Ok, people, you got my attention, let's read the description:
http://www.kinopoisk.ru/film/22292/ (...  Starts contest, including arson, bestiality, cannibalism, castration and coprofagia...)

You are kidding, right? Fool's Day was yesterday, but it's ok if you keep joking.
Great movie? With extremely ugly woman as a main character and bestiality, cannibalism, castration and coprofagia??? "Godfather", "The Shawshank Redemption", "The Green Mile", "Forrest Gump", "A Beautiful Mind", "The Matrix", "Hachi: A Dog's Tale"... that's what people call the "great movie"...
"Pink Flamingos" is a piece of shit.
That fact the world is full of insane people and people with mental issues who like to watch it doesn't make it a great movie.
Zero sense of toilet humour. It's actually normal thing for people with certain level of intelligence. They just don't find bestiality, cannibalism, castration and coprofagia funny, they find it disgusting.

jmana, did you already watch "Pink Flamingos" with your religious violoncellist Alina? Did you check if she get this kind of "humour"?

 

[jmana]

Before you burn jmana at the stake, it needs to be recognized that he did accept the huge responsibility for raising their son and so far seems to have accomplished it.    You suggested to me earlier that the $500/month from Southpaw covers her share, and I assert based on my experience that it covers a small percentage of the cost.  And then there is jmana's time.   

Not $500.  I really don't know where people got that figure.

[Gator]

Not $500.  I really don't know where people got that figure.

Southpaw's initial post.  http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=17011.msg361973#msg361973

[Southpaw1982]

I'm not defending him. I've already assigned jmana the majority of the blame for your marriage falling apart. As head of the household, he shouldn't have allowed certain things to happen that eroded the marriage.



From my point of view, it seems you both want to have the last word. It's also apparent you both refuse to change your behavior. Your son will see these hostilities and may have to choose sides or reject you both.


Did you enjoy the support you received here? Do you enjoy seeing people join you in bashing your ex on the internet? What value are you getting from it? Interaction with your ex during visitation exchanges won't be pleasant. Someday your son may repeat his parent's mistakes and waste his life away in part because you two seem incapable of moving on and getting over it. He doesn't have a parent that he can respect an learn from.


 Some people have enabled you two to continue your fight with support. Some people have given you both good advice to stop and move on. You mention the word "pray" a few times so I take it you have faith in God. Have you heard "You reap what you sow?" If you plant a bad seed in life, you're going to get bad results. Think about what you both need to do to get good results.

I suggested he got help and protected the kid from porn. That is all. Why is he so defensive? If he does not do anything wrong now, why is he so defensive.. and bitching? What happened in the past is past now, but he can't deny and say he was a perfect husband... (lol). Perfect husbands don't get dumped and ran away from. I was hoping he put porn aside and pay attention to our child when I left, which he was forced to do anyways, at least it shaped him as a father somehow, he should be grateful. I gave him a chance to be a father, he failed as a man for me. So, what is his problem?

[Southpaw1982]

Why do you keep saying you left?  Let me refresh your memory, I kicked your ass out, gave you 24 hours to find a new place to live.  I was tired of your cheating ass.  And I am defensive because I am SICK AND TIRED of you making it seem like I have, or ever had a porn "addiction".  Get it through your tiny numbskull, I do not, and never had a porn addiction.

NO, I dumped you. You had no right to "kick me out" my name was on the deed. It was my house also. My cheating ass.... lol I did not know my ass had a mind on it's own. lol  You should have been cheated on. I flirted a lot, yes Sorry about that lol You were too busy with "amazing TY"

[Muzh]

Pink Flamingos is a notorious film.  I watched it in the 1970s as part of the experimentation my generation was embracing.  The film had many perverse acts.  I believe those who rave about it see more than what is actually there. 

I doubt that a recent immigrant from the FSU could grasp the campy theme, particularly at the end when a fat drag queen picks up a real, fresh dog turd and puts it in her mouth.  Divine admits this was not in the script (assuming there was a script).  She/he/it simply got caught up in the moment and ad-libbed.

 
You describe this as a "great film."   I assert few people will agree with you.  So what are the odds that an 18-yo from Eastern European culture would understand it, much less like it.  It was too much.  And on top of this it seems that you have shown coprophagia photos to her.    Not only idiotic, it harmed the goal of building a loving relationship with Southpaw.    It really bothered her, so much that she still talks about it 12 years later.   

You seem to have a good side such as taking on the responsibility of raising a young boy.  And I guess you were doing this alone when he was really young and needed much attention.  That's splendid.  Then you have a darkside - this interest in the extreme.  If you are still  intrigued by the  eating of shit, seek help.  If not, how do you convince Southpaw you are a changed man?

Oooh, 1970s cinema experimentation. I remember that. But not with American cinema. Mostly European.
 
I remember the movies from an Italian film director, Pier Paolo Passolini. Crude and lewd.
 
The first movie of him I saw was based on Boccaccio's The Decameron. What I liked was the director's ability to transport you back to that era, The Middle Ages. It was really different. I highly recommend it.
 
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0065622/
 
The following year he ame with Chaucer's The Canterburry Tales. How can you not see that? One scene that I'll never forget was of people landing in cesspools. Not a pretty sight. Again, same magic of being transported back in time. Also, highly recommeded.
 
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0067647/
 
A few years later I saw another one of his movies. I was expecting a similar but, alas, it was not meant to be. The movie was called Salò, or the 120 Days of Sodom and nothing but sexual depravity. People eating shit, being pissed on their faces, dicks being cut off. Ouch. In addition, it was in a contemporary setting, Fascist Italy. It was really a vomiting experience.
 
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0073650/
 
Now, I haven't seen Pink Flamingos and honestly I have no desire to see it. If it is anything like Salò then I'm not curious, Yellow. Seriously, I cannot see how anyone would consider a movie like that a classic. Maybe a classic piece of shit. (Bu dum pah)
 
 

[Gator]

Why do you keep saying you left?  Let me refresh your memory, I kicked your ass out, gave you 24 hours to find a new place to live. 

Only the courts can evict anyone.  For as long as she is married to you, even if she were cheating, she still has spousal rights to include residence. 

She left either because she did not know her rights and you bullied her, or she desperately wanted out.

Where did she go?

[jmana]

NO, I dumped you. You had no right to "kick me out" my name was on the deed. It was my house also. My cheating ass.... lol I did not know my ass had a mind on it's own. lol  You should have been cheated on. I flirted a lot, yes Sorry about that lol You were too busy with "amazing TY"

Oh, so you're going to deny that I told you you had 24 hours to find a new place to live?  More lies from you, not surprising.