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« Reply #3800 on: November 30, 2015, 07:16:30 AM »
The $40/bbl price is curtailing investments in the US in fracking.  The same destimulus is happening in OPEC countries and will reduce their reduction. 

OPEC countries had no large fracking programs, yet  production from many OPEC's existing oil wells decline over time, with the gushers eventually becoming stripper wells.   The wells  must be replaced with new investments.  Likewise, infrastructure must be maintained. 

Reduced oil revenue will slow both, so production from  OPEC will decline over time.  This constrains how low prices will drop, and encourages price increases.  When?  Not soon, but eventually. 

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« Reply #3801 on: November 30, 2015, 08:12:45 AM »
You are incorrect, things are not that good for terrorists, at least the ones in the Middle East

I was referring to you.

....But in terms of the Iran/Major powers nuke deal, things are fine, despite your around the clock hand-wringing. 

Iran threatens to cancel nuclear deal if UN probe isn't closed

..."Senior Iranian official says his country will cancel deal if IAEA probe into past nuclear activities isn't dropped."...

..."Iran on Sunday threatened to cancel the nuclear deal with world powers unless a probe into allegations of its past weapons research is closed, AFP reported."...

..."The UN watchdog recently released a report which determined that Iran had violated the terms of its nuclear deal with the West by increasing its stockpile of low-enriched uranium in the past three months by 460.2 kilograms."...

..."Earlier this month it was also revealed that Iran had stopped dismantling its centrifuges at the Natanz and Fordow uranium enrichment plants, breaching the nuclear deal that calls for the dismantling."...

..."Despite revelations that his country is breaching the deal, Iranian President Hassan Rouhani recently threatened to abandon the accord all together, if the United States imposes any new sanctions unrelated to Tehran's nuclear program."...

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/204150#.VlxkrZuFPMw

As I've already posted...For those that place their allegiance and declare their homage to the terrorist cause I'm sure it is "still fine".

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« Reply #3802 on: November 30, 2015, 08:18:18 AM »
I was referring to you.




No durrrr!  :rolleyes:




Sorry, but your 'ideas' aren't panning out...thankfully.  The deal is done, and bumps along the way are expected.


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« Reply #3803 on: November 30, 2015, 08:26:13 AM »
Sorry, but your 'ideas' aren't panning out...thankfully.  The deal is done, and bumps along the way are expected.

On the contrary. It's "panning out" exactly as I predicted.

1. They can start with...*Iran has no intention of honoring the agreement.*

2. Because it's easier to reconvert nuclear facilities back to making bomb grade uranium after the inspections are over and the sanctions are fully lifted then it is to convert uranium. So appearing to comply with the small stuff while feigning a "Gee, how did that happen?" with the big stuff allows the weapons grade uranium production to proceed on schedule.

3. Obama and Kerry are complete feckless morons and Iran is thumbing their noses at them knowing there's no way that either of them will put a hold on the final deal even though they're already in non compliance of the interim accord.

Take your pick boys because it doesn't really matter. Iran will have their bombs regardless.

Seriously...Are the people we've put into the positions of leading our countries really this fcuking stupid?...

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« Reply #3804 on: November 30, 2015, 09:29:52 AM »
On the contrary. It's "panning out" exactly as I predicted.

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When Iran has the nukes that you insist they will, then you can rightfully gloat about being 'right'.  That hasn't happened.   Meanwhile the deal is moving forward for now. 


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« Reply #3805 on: November 30, 2015, 10:31:04 AM »
When Iran has the nukes that you insist they will, then you can rightfully gloat about being 'right'.  That hasn't happened.   Meanwhile the deal is moving forward for now. 

Which in no way negates the fact that your terrorist leaders are already trying to alter the terms of the Obama deal and weasel their way out of the agreement altogether.

The links in my last three posts have clearly demonstrated that the deal is not moving forward.

..."The Iranian regime did not sign the nuclear deal negotiated earlier this year, and the deal itself is not legally binding - that's according to an astonishing letter sent by the US State Department to Congressmen Mike Pompeo (R., Kan.) last week."...

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« Reply #3806 on: November 30, 2015, 11:10:11 AM »
Which in no way negates the fact that your terrorist leaders are already trying to alter the terms of the Obama deal and weasel their way out of the agreement altogether.

The links in my last three posts have clearly demonstrated that the deal is not moving forward.

..."The Iranian regime did not sign the nuclear deal negotiated earlier this year, and the deal itself is not legally binding - that's according to an astonishing letter sent by the US State Department to Congressmen Mike Pompeo (R., Kan.) last week."...

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Boy are you and YOUR terroristic intentions going to be disappointed when you find out things ARE moving forward, despite your continued hopes and wishes.     

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« Reply #3807 on: November 30, 2015, 11:45:09 AM »
Russian ships waiting for hours to cross Bosphorus Strait in Turkey   :clapping: :clapping: :clapping: :clapping:


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Vessels sailing under the flag of Russia are now facing challenges while passing the Bosphorus Strait that connects the Black Sea with the Sea of Marmara, Kyiv-based Center for Transport Strategies reported with reference to data of an online vessel tracking system atmarinetraffic.com.


As reported, on Sunday Russian vessels were moving on a zig-zag and curved course, waiting for hours for permission to cross the Strait.

Movements of vessels from other countries were without a delay on that day. Russian vessels entered the Bosphorus late in the evening of November 29.

As UNIAN reported earlier, on November 28, Russia imposed sanctions against Turkey in response to the downing of a Russian Su-24 warplane by the Turkish Air Force. In addition, Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered to suspend the visa-free regime with Turkey starting from January 1, 2016. Also a ban on charter air transportation between Russia and Turkey will be introduced.

Read more on UNIAN: http://www.unian.info/economics/1197904-russian-ships-waiting-for-hours-to-cross-bosphorus.html

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« Reply #3808 on: November 30, 2015, 12:14:57 PM »
. . . will reduce their reduction. 

Which will lead to induction or deduction ?
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« Reply #3809 on: November 30, 2015, 08:13:18 PM »
 
 
...the terms of the Obama deal.... 

What a brilliant chess master that guy.
Trades two knights, two bishops, and a rook for a pawn.

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« Reply #3810 on: December 01, 2015, 09:52:14 AM »
Boy are you and YOUR terroristic intentions going to be disappointed when you find out things ARE moving forward, despite your continued hopes and wishes.     

Iran’s Nuclear Stockpile Grows, Complicating Negotiations

..."WASHINGTON — With only one month left before a deadline to complete a nuclear deal with Iran, international inspectors have reported that Tehran’s stockpile of nuclear fuel increased about 20 percent over the last 18 months of negotiations, partially undercutting the Obama administration’s contention that the Iranian program had been “frozen” during that period.

But Western officials and experts cannot quite figure out why."...

 
Let me assist the 'Western officials and experts' with some helpful ideas to ease their conundrum...

1. They can start with...*Iran has no intention of honoring the agreement.* 

2. Because it's easier to reconvert nuclear facilities back to making bomb grade uranium after the inspections are over and the sanctions are fully lifted then it is to convert uranium. So appearing to comply with the small stuff while feigning a "Gee, how did that happen?" with the big stuff allows the weapons grade uranium production to proceed on schedule.

3. Obama and Kerry are complete feckless morons and Iran is thumbing their noses at them knowing there's no way that either of them will put a hold on the final deal even though they're already in non compliance of the interim accord.

Take your pick boys because it doesn't really matter. Iran will have their bombs regardless.

Seriously...Are the people we've put into the positions of leading our countries really this fcuking stupid?...

..."There is little doubt that in the absence of the interim accord, called the “Joint Plan of Action,” Iran would have made even greater strides. But the numbers published Friday by the atomic energy agency show that Iran has continued to enrich uranium aggressively, even though it knew that it was not meeting its goals of converting its stockpile into reactor rods."...

www.nytimes.com

Call Iran’s bluff, Mr. President

..."Once upon a time, the Obama administration insisted that any enforcement scheme would require a complete accounting of Iran’s PMDs (possible military dimensions). The administration then suggested it would be a condition for lifting of sanctions, but that did not make it into the deal. Then Secretary of State John F. Kerry pleaded that the PMDs and other inspection-related issues were in a document it did not have and could not produce. Now Iran insists on an ultimatum: either the deal or continued investigation of the PMD issue.

This should shock no one. “Iran has learned that its repeated threats will be met with climb-down after climb-down from the Obama administration,” says sanctions expert Mark Dubowitz. “So it’s no surprise that it is threatening to scuttle the Iran nuclear deal if the file is not closed on its weaponization activities.” He expects the administration will once again capitulate."...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2015/11/30/call-irans-bluff-mr-president/

You're still managing to stink up this forum with your unintelligent seditious trolling.

My "hopes and wishes" are that your terrorist leaders don't immediately escalate to thermal nuclear war once Obama has handed them the nucs.

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« Reply #3811 on: December 01, 2015, 10:04:17 AM »
Call Iran’s bluff, Mr. President

..."Once upon a time, the Obama administration insisted that any enforcement scheme would require a complete accounting of Iran’s PMDs (possible military dimensions). The administration then suggested it would be a condition for lifting of sanctions, but that did not make it into the deal. Then Secretary of State John F. Kerry pleaded that the PMDs and other inspection-related issues were in a document it did not have and could not produce. Now Iran insists on an ultimatum: either the deal or continued investigation of the PMD issue.

This should shock no one. “Iran has learned that its repeated threats will be met with climb-down after climb-down from the Obama administration,” says sanctions expert Mark Dubowitz. “So it’s no surprise that it is threatening to scuttle the Iran nuclear deal if the file is not closed on its weaponization activities.” He expects the administration will once again capitulate."...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2015/11/30/call-irans-bluff-mr-president/

You're still managing to stink up this forum with your unintelligent seditious trolling.

My "hopes and wishes" are that your terrorist leaders don't immediately escalate to thermal nuclear war once Obama has handed them the nucs.

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This is more disingenuous fear mongering....if you had your way (Which thankfully you will not), we would already have massive war.   The deal continues to be implemented, despite your war and dominance hopes disguised as 'a stern ultra hard line'.   


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« Reply #3812 on: December 01, 2015, 10:08:53 AM »
What a brilliant chess master that guy.
Trades two knights, two bishops, and a rook for a pawn.

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowe_Bergdahl

Maybe. Over the years I've come to adopt the Israeli position on prisoner exchange, though - One American (NATO/Western) soldier is worth a 100 Taliban terrorists. Get the hostage(s) freed and home. We can always sort the terrorists out later.

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« Reply #3813 on: December 01, 2015, 10:22:02 AM »
This is more disingenuous fear mongering....if you had your way (Which thankfully you will not), we would already have massive war.   The deal continues to be implemented, despite your war and dominance hopes disguised as 'a stern ultra hard line'.   

...And your seditious trolling is nothing more than uninformed promotion of your terrorist leader's agenda.

You just keep repeating your lies and mantras without regard for substantiation or the truth. *There is no deal*. Iran has not signed anything and it's not legally binding.

Read what I'm posting/linking you silly little man...

And the Obama/Kerry final insult to the American people and by extension the civilized world...

Iran Nuclear Deal Is Not ‘Legally Binding,’ Obama Administration Admits

..."The nuclear deal agreed upon in July by the P5+1 world powers (US, UK, France, Germany, Russia, China) and the Islamic Republic of Iran has no “legally binding” basis. The deal, paraded by President Obama as a surefire measure to stop Iran from developing a nuclear weapon, is held together simply as a “political commitment” by the parties to the accord, the State Department admitted in a recent letter."...

www.breitbart.com

Iran Nuclear Deal Isn't A Bad Deal After All; It's No Deal

..."Nuclear Charade: The Obama administration admits to Congress that its nuclear pact with Iran has not been signed by the Iranian regime and has no legal force. Obama's "tough diplomacy" is puff diplomacy."...

news.investors.com

Iran didn't sign the nuclear deal - and it isn't legally binding



..."The Iranian regime did not sign the nuclear deal negotiated earlier this year, and the deal itself is not legally binding - that's according to an astonishing letter sent by the US State Department to Congressmen Mike Pompeo (R., Kan.) last week."...

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/203986#.VliAfpuFPMw

Nuclear Deal: Iran Will Not Comply Until Commitments Are Met, Says Foreign Minister



..."Iranian Foreign Minister Seyyed Abbas Araqchi said Thursday that before Iran complies with the nuclear deal, nuclear inspectors must close their investigation into possible military dimensions of its nuclear program."...

http://www.hngn.com/articles/154352/20151126/nuclear-deal-iran-will-comply-until-commitments-met-foreign-minister.htm

Just look at the grins on the faces of these two terrorist leaders...You betcha, boys, your nuclear breakout is now guaranteed.

Bet you're thinking "Too bad Obama doesn't have another term in office...we'd rule the world with one or two more of these scam "historic" agreements like the one we just pulled here".  ;)

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« Reply #3814 on: December 01, 2015, 10:58:40 AM »
Maybe. Over the years I've come to adopt the Israeli position on prisoner exchange, though - One American (NATO/Western) soldier is worth a 100 Taliban terrorists. Get the hostage(s) freed and home. We can always sort the terrorists out later.

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Brass, do you know the details about Bergdahl? He abandoned the Army for the terrorists. When searching for Bergdahl who deserted, soldiers lost their lives. I'd rather Obama spend the effort to free the doctor out of prison in Pakistan who led us to Osama Bin Laden than trade 5 terrorists who are basically at the rank of general for a private who deserted. Sorting out the terrorists later may not be a preferred method if we learn one of the freed generals masterminded the deaths of hundreds before they're caught again.


Obama has gone against America's policy of trading hostages with terrorists. What this does is let terrorists know kidnapping Americans is a good thing. Obama made Americans less safer doing what he did.
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« Reply #3815 on: December 01, 2015, 11:35:44 AM »

Brass, do you know the details about Bergdahl? He abandoned the Army for the terrorists. When searching for Bergdahl who deserted, soldiers lost their lives. I'd rather Obama spend the effort to free the doctor out of prison in Pakistan who led us to Osama Bin Laden than trade 5 terrorists who are basically at the rank of general for a private who deserted. Sorting out the terrorists later may not be a preferred method if we learn one of the freed generals masterminded the deaths of hundreds before they're caught again.


Obama has gone against America's policy of trading hostages with terrorists. What this does is let terrorists know kidnapping Americans is a good thing. Obama made Americans less safer doing what he did.

Only what I read in the wiki link. There are conflicting reports of the circumstances of events leading up to his capture.

Dempsey put the controversy in perspective, as far as I'm concerned...

""The questions about this particular soldier's conduct are separate from our effort to recover ANY U.S. service member in enemy captivity" and that the military will investigate how Bergdahl was captured. "Like any American, he is innocent until proven guilty.[...] Our Army’s leaders will not look away from misconduct if it occurred. In the meantime, we will continue to care for him and his family."

If this soldier is guilty of a crime(s) it's best the American (military) judicial system now has the ability to investigate and deal with him, imo.

Yes, I'm aware my stance on this particular aspect of trading terrorists for hostages isn't popular. You might even be proven correct in that it allows freed terrorists to reenter the fight.

It's not something I arrived at immediately, however. Over the last 7 years or so we've been releasing terrorists on a regular basis...we should be at least be negotiating for the release of western hostages using the terrorist scum as currency.

Just my thoughts.

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« Reply #3816 on: December 01, 2015, 02:03:33 PM »
Only what I read in the wiki link. There are conflicting reports of the circumstances of events leading up to his capture.


There's really not any conflicting reports on his desertion. The guys in his unit were sure of it. Any conflicting reports were on the part of the Army. Some surmise the claim of a "capture" were to tamper any media coverage of a desertion.

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« Reply #3817 on: December 01, 2015, 04:25:07 PM »
There's really not any conflicting reports on his desertion. The guys in his unit were sure of it. Any conflicting reports were on the part of the Army. Some surmise the claim of a "capture" were to tamper any media coverage of a desertion.

Agreed. However, Bergdahl's desertion was not the first or last instance. ..

..."But beyond the debate over the trade that brought Bergdahl out of captivity, the questions around his conduct are part of a bigger -- and largely unexamined -- legacy of America’s two most recent wars.  An estimated 59,000 soldiers deserted the military during the 13 years of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, according to figures from the Army, Navy, Marines and Air Force."...

http://www.ibtimes.com/debate-rages-over-bergdahls-alleged-desertion-awol-soldiers-reveal-motivations-1594816

The other question is was he a deserter or would he have returned if not captured reducing his actions to an AWA (Absent Without Authority) charge which carries no where near the penalty of Desertion.

I'm not defending his actions. I'm of the opinion that the "No man left behind" tradition (both Canadian and US military) supersedes any charges that may result from his actions.

He's an American soldier first. Bring him home. If he's committed crimes contrary to the code of service discipline then prosecute him in due course but don't leave him to die.

..."Critics of the deal -- including some members of Bergdahl's Army unit, the 25th Infantry Division in the 1st Battalion, 501st Infantry Regiment -- assert that he did not deserve such a strenuous effort to bring him home if he wandered off his base intending not to return, as some contend. Supporters of the deal say the traditional military code applies regardless: Soldiers do not leave their own behind, period."...

As a Recruit this was the first thing they drilled into us at Battle School. It stays with me to this day.

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« Reply #3818 on: December 01, 2015, 05:55:22 PM »
I'm not defending his actions. I'm of the opinion that the "No man left behind" tradition (both Canadian and US military) supersedes any charges that may result from his actions.



I'm all for "No man left behind" too. After Bergdalh deserted, military units went looking for him and it cost lives. The problem with trading terrorists generals for soldiers is that policy could get hundreds more killed and more Americans kidnapped. There needs to be better judgment used when a policy may get more killed than saved.


He's an American soldier first. Bring him home. If he's committed crimes contrary to the code of service discipline then prosecute him in due course but don't leave him to die.



Soldier or not, his American life isn't any more valuable than the next American. Justice is currently serving Bergdalh. He'll probably end up in prison. Let's just hope his and Obama's actions doesn't get anybody else killed. I can't imagine any of those terrorist generals retiring. Once in those terrorists groups, always a terrorist and always active.
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« Reply #3819 on: December 01, 2015, 06:40:39 PM »
...And your seditious trolling is nothing more than uninformed promotion of your terrorist leader's agenda.

You just keep repeating your lies and mantras without regard for substantiation or the truth. *There is no deal*. Iran has not signed anything and it's not legally binding.

Read what I'm posting/linking you silly little man...

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Almost 5 months since the deal was agreed upon...still no nukes for Iran...nor will there be for the length of the deal, I suspect.  So all your whining and would be efforts to sabotage the deal is for naught. The more time that passes without Iran having nukes, the more wrong you are proving to be...


For all your rumbling, you have proven to be incredibly ignorant of how to bring a capable country into fold....which is to be done by working with the country to construct a fair deal...just as Obama and company did.....you foolishly think the US will just continue to make a one-sided demands coupled the threat of bombs...Obviously Iran wasn't withering very much to that...and leaders know starting a war (like you advocate)is the less optimal strategy.


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« Reply #3820 on: December 02, 2015, 03:31:49 PM »

Despite the caterwauling from the militaristic ultra-far right....moving forward as planned.....
US ready to move ahead with Iran deal after UN bomb report



Washington (AFP) - The United States said Wednesday that it was ready to take the next step in implementing the Iran nuclear deal after an IAEA report on Tehran's weapons program.


State Department spokesman Mark Toner said that the UN watchdog had confirmed Washington's long-standing allegation that Tehran had once been working on a nuclear bomb, but he added that Iran had cooperated adequately with IAEA investigators.


"The IAEA report is consistent with what the United States has long assessed with high confidence,".................................

Under the deal, Iran will scale back its nuclear enrichment program dramatically -- a program it has always maintained was for purely peaceful purposes -- and submit its nuclear sites to international inspection.

In return, outside powers will end some of the international sanctions that have severely squeezed the Iranian economy.....


http://news.yahoo.com/us-ready-move-ahead-iran-deal-un-bomb-210053302.html


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« Reply #3821 on: December 03, 2015, 08:02:20 AM »
I'm all for "No man left behind" too. After Bergdalh deserted, military units went looking for him and it cost lives. The problem with trading terrorists generals for soldiers is that policy could get hundreds more killed and more Americans kidnapped. There needs to be better judgment used when a policy may get more killed than saved.

I disagree. What is fundamental in our military training and traditions is it's understood we try to bring our people home. We don't leave them on the battle field and we do everything we can to rescue them if captured.

It's what makes us different. We don't write our soldiers off as a bad investment.

Soldier or not, his American life isn't any more valuable than the next American. Justice is currently serving Bergdalh. He'll probably end up in prison. Let's just hope his and Obama's actions doesn't get anybody else killed. I can't imagine any of those terrorist generals retiring. Once in those terrorists groups, always a terrorist and always active.

Obama's releasing them anyways. These generals, as you call them, are going to continue where they left off regardless. We may as well use them as currency to get our own back.

Again, I'm not defending Bergdahl's actions. If he's found guilty then he'll answer for it.

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« Reply #3822 on: December 03, 2015, 08:09:47 AM »
Almost 5 months since the deal was agreed upon...still no nukes for Iran...nor will there be for the length of the deal, I suspect.  So all your whining and would be efforts to sabotage the deal is for naught. The more time that passes without Iran having nukes, the more wrong you are proving to be...


For all your rumbling, you have proven to be incredibly ignorant of how to bring a capable country into fold....which is to be done by working with the country to construct a fair deal...just as Obama and company did.....you foolishly think the US will just continue to make a one-sided demands coupled the threat of bombs...Obviously Iran wasn't withering very much to that...and leaders know starting a war (like you advocate)is the less optimal strategy.

You can't answer to the truth contained in my posts and links so you just continue to spew your lies and nonsensical propaganda.

You personify the term "useful idiot". Your terrorist masters would approve.

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« Reply #3823 on: December 03, 2015, 08:32:50 AM »
Despite the caterwauling from the militaristic ultra-far right....moving forward as planned.....
US ready to move ahead with Iran deal after UN bomb report



Washington (AFP) - The United States said Wednesday that it was ready to take the next step in implementing the Iran nuclear deal after an IAEA report on Tehran's weapons program.


State Department spokesman Mark Toner said that the UN watchdog had confirmed Washington's long-standing allegation that Tehran had once been working on a nuclear bomb, but he added that Iran had cooperated adequately with IAEA investigators.


"The IAEA report is consistent with what the United States has long assessed with high confidence,".................................

Under the deal, Iran will scale back its nuclear enrichment program dramatically -- a program it has always maintained was for purely peaceful purposes -- and submit its nuclear sites to international inspection.

In return, outside powers will end some of the international sanctions that have severely squeezed the Iranian economy.....


http://news.yahoo.com/us-ready-move-ahead-iran-deal-un-bomb-210053302.html

Absolute stupidity.

It's already documented the reason why Iran was incapable of moving forward (since 2009) with their nuclear breakout was the sanctions imposed on them. The same sanctions Obama and the other countries are now lifting...

U.N.: Iran's nuclear weapons research lasted until 2009

..."Iran worked on developing nuclear weapons in the past, but there's no evidence of such activities after 2009, the United Nations nuclear watchdog group said in a report released Wednesday.

The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) said many of Iran's nuclear activities were consistent with elements of a weapons program, despite Iran’s claims that its program was always peaceful.

The agency looked at several facets of Iran’s nuclear program to answer questions listed in its 2011 report to the United Nations Security Council. That report described evidence that Iran worked on nuclear detonators, developed highly enriched uranium fuel that could be used in a bomb and studied how radiation would spread after a hypothetical nuclear test."...

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2015/12/02/un-irans-nuclear-weapons-research-lasted-until-2009/76679130/

This is exactly what I've been posting about over whatever many pages while you've attempted to shout me down with your lies and terrorist propaganda.

Obama moving forward was never in doubt. As I've already mentioned Iran could be denying they have the bomb while standing in front of a bomb and Obama would lift the sanctions. He has to or admit Iran scammed him.

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« Reply #3824 on: December 03, 2015, 09:28:04 AM »
You can't answer to the truth contained in my posts and links so you just continue to spew your lies and nonsensical propaganda.

You personify the term "useful idiot". Your terrorist masters would approve.

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Despite what you view as 'truth', all the major powers continue to disagree and move forward....which doesn't much credence to your angry partisan complaints.




Absolute stupidity.

It's already documented the reason why Iran was incapable of moving forward (since 2009) with their nuclear breakout was the sanctions imposed on them. The same sanctions Obama and the other countries are now lifting...
 
This is exactly what I've been posting about over whatever many pages while you've attempted to shout me down with your lies and terrorist propaganda.

Obama moving forward was never in doubt. As I've already mentioned Iran could be denying they have the bomb while standing in front of a bomb and Obama would lift the sanctions. He has to or admit Iran scammed him.

Brass


Nobody is trying to 'shout you down'...it is funny that YOU view it that way though....


It is completely fair to say that if you had your way, we (The US) would be involved in another full scale needless war.   Meanwhile the deal IS moving forward just the way it is supposed to.  If there was truly a problem like you continue to complain there is, I don't think ALL the major powers would be in unanimous agreement to continue the forward movement. 
Another week is passing and still no nukes or war in Iran....I label that a good thing....if anything it is YOU that is advocating terrorism although nobody in power is listening.   


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