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[Boethius]

No, it doesn't.


I think when WW hit their forties, for the most part, if they have been married, they want male companionship, but not marriage. 


I suspect there are WW in their thirties who have never been married and would be good wives. 


There is nothing wrong with looking abroad, but if you are striking out with women in your own country, the fault lies with you.

[AC]

No, it doesn't.


I think when WW hit their forties, for the most part, if they have been married, they want male companionship, but not marriage. 


I suspect there are WW in their thirties who have never been married and would be good wives. 


There is nothing wrong with looking abroad, but if you are striking out with women in your own country, the fault lies with you.

I am not against guys keeping a look-out for potential WW who meet their quality requirements.  Of course guys should always be receptive to all possibilities, however the guys who have dated overseas know that the quality and quantity they can get far exceeds what's available at home.  So you can make any false claim you want to about the guy -- those who make the choice to expand their horizons are happy with that choice.  Since most WW don't compare very well it's a false argument. 

[lordtiberius]

who cares?  Most of us are married anyway.

[AC]

who cares?  Most of us are married anyway.

Does that mean that you will be retiring from the forum since your services here are no longer needed?

 

[jone]

LT, I care.  How you can you not understand that the new blood for this forum is the guys who are looking.  If it were only you posting on this Board, no one would stay.  They certainly don't want to watch videos of you butchering practicing Russian.

[lordtiberius]

Does that mean that you will be retiring from the forum since your services here are no longer needed?

 

Maybe

[AC]

LT, I care.  How you can you not understand that the new blood for this forum is the guys who are looking.  If it were only you posting on this Board, no one would stay.  They certainly don't want to watch videos of you butchering practicing Russian.

+1

And butchering practicing Christianity.

[lordtiberius]

LT, I care.  How you can you not understand that the new blood for this forum is the guys who are looking.  If it were only you posting on this Board, no one would stay.  They certainly don't want to watch videos of you butchering practicing Russian.

My Russian is probably better than yours.  Unless you put up a similar video, I guess we will NEVER KNOW . . .

If he wants to go abroad to find a woman, great.  If he wants to stay home, that's ok too.  I could care less.  I don't think one is better than the other.  I will say that if you take too long, you are no longer a wife hunter but a sex tourist.  With that, how is your search going?

[lordtiberius]

+1

And butchering practicing Christianity.

You and jone are practicing Christianity?  News to me

[ML]

a wife hunter

Sounds terrible.

[AC]

Most of us would rather watch this video than a video of anyone practicing Russian:

[Pkeel1]

Actually all is going very well indeed.

Made a fall trip to Lviv a gorgeous city and met a very nice lady.

We are continuing and will see where it goes.

[AC]

You and jone are practicing Christianity?  News to me

It's news to the entire forum that you practice it.

[AC]

Actually all is going very well indeed.

Made a fall trip to Lviv a gorgeous city and met a very nice lady.

We are continuing and will see where it goes.

Great to hear.  How would you rate your experience of dating a Ukrainian woman compared to dating the average American woman?

[lordtiberius]

Most of us would rather watch this video than a video of anyone practicing Russian:


She is a public woman.  That you would prefer her company is no news item.

[AC]

who cares?  Most of us are married anyway.

Best wishes on your marriage.  I hope it will improve your life the way you would like it to.

[jone]

My Russian is probably better than yours.  Unless you put up a similar video, I guess we will NEVER KNOW . . .

If he wants to go abroad to find a woman, great.  If he wants to stay home, that's ok too.  I could care less.  I don't think one is better than the other.  I will say that if you take too long, you are no longer a wife hunter but a sex tourist.  With that, how is your search going?

The only representations made that I am a Christian are yours.   You sound like a second grader.  Is there anyone you actually like on this Board?  Or are you so insecure and immature that you cannot interact with people normally?

I guess, aside from comic relief, we are wondering what you are doing here if you are happily married and have no interest in those who are looking.  (That is the second time you've let everyone know that you could care less in the last few paragraphs.)

[Boethius]

If the quality of FSUW were so much greater than that of WW, the failure rate of WM/FSUW marriages would not be as high as WM/WW marriages.


Yes, LT is married.  Let's all wish him well.


PKeel, great, hope all goes well for you.

[Pkeel1]

In my very limited experience.  I was married for 20 years and that was really my only serious relationship in USA.  And in FSU I have only dated 2 women.

Mostly the difference is women in FSU culture have been more direct and honest in what they say and think.

The flaky woman that wanted to learn how to love herself was after me to date her 2 weeks later!  I politely declined the honor.  The other lady has managed to really screw her life up over the last 3 months.  I am not sure if she will ever dig her way out again.

[AC]

If the quality of FSUW were so much greater than that of WW, the failure rate of WM/FSUW marriages would not be as high as WM/WW marriages.


Yes, LT is married.  Let's all wish him well.


PKeel, great, hope all goes well for you.

I don't recall whether or not a marriage lasted being part of the question posed by this thread.  The question posed I thought is how has it been going for guys dating American women (versus I presume FSU women although I don't limit to that).

Certainly some women from countries with dire economic situations might be tempted to put on a good front in order to get over to the USA but that only concerns those who are looking to import a woman from overseas.

Plenty of foreign born women already here who speak English well and a guy can meet them travelling as well.

[Boethius]

Your question is silly.  There are tens of millions of AM married to AW, so overall, for most AM, relationships with AW are just fine. 

What you should be looking at is what is it in you that is unappealing to AW (and vice versa), as that will eventually be unappealing to most foreign born women (and vice versa) as well. 

Pitbull said it best.

[RoboCop]

If the quality of FSUW were so much greater than that of WW, the failure rate of WM/FSUW marriages would not be as high as WM/WW marriages.


Yes, LT is married.  Let's all wish him well.


PKeel, great, hope all goes well for you.

I am wondering where you got that stat from. Everything else I've read says that international marriages actually have a lower divorce rate than WW/WM marriages.

And my previous post was about general cultural tendencies. Of course there are American based marriages that aren't like that, but I'm sure if you ask enough people who have experience dating in the U.S.A. and FSU, Eastern Europe and even Western Europe - including the guy who started this thread - they'd probably agree the domestic dating scene is more convoluted than it needs to be.

[AC]

In my very limited experience.  I was married for 20 years and that was really my only serious relationship in USA.  And in FSU I have only dated 2 women.

Mostly the difference is women in FSU culture have been more direct and honest in what they say and think.

The flaky woman that wanted to learn how to love herself was after me to date her 2 weeks later!  I politely declined the honor.  The other lady has managed to really screw her life up over the last 3 months.  I am not sure if she will ever dig her way out again.

My experience is pretty vast.  I've dated about 100 women, most of them foreign born.  The quality of the woman is higher, the communication is more direct about what is expected.  Foreign born women step up to the plate and compete for a mans attention.  A guy who prefers younger women can find them easily, get their attention and date them. 

The single WW don't compare in quality and they don't want to step up to the plate.  The stereotypes are mostly true but you see the endless debate that goes on, which is why you see the females in the media trying to portray a negative narrative.  If they were to tell the truth that the average single WW is fatter, less knowledgeable about the World as a whole, doesn't dress as well, has multiple "issues" and that dating the average WW is like a root-canal or a business negotiation gone bad; well they would not have anyone watching the show or reading the forum.  So you have a couple of token feminists telling their version of events.   

[Boethius]

There is a cross cultural survey, several years old, on this forum, that puts the stat at about 8% lower than American marriages.  However, I believe that survey is out of date.  Even on this forum, slightly more than half the men posting from, say, six years ago, are now divorced.

Marriages between an American spouse and foreign born mate tend to be more long lasting as most of those marriages are between foreign nationals (such as Mexicans) for whom divorce is generally considered a sin.

[Boethius]

My experience is pretty vast.  I've dated about 100 women, most of them foreign born.  The quality of the woman is higher, the communication is more direct about what is expected.  Foreign born women step up to the plate and compete for a mans attention.  A guy who prefers younger women can find them easily, get their attention and date them. 

The single WW don't compare in quality and they don't want to step up to the plate.  The stereotypes are mostly true but you see the endless debate that goes on, which is why you see the females in the media trying to portray a negative narrative.  If they were to tell the truth that the average single WW is fatter, less knowledgeable about the World as a whole, doesn't dress as well, has multiple "issues" and that dating the average WW is like a root-canal or a business negotiation gone bad; well they would not have anyone watching the show or reading the forum.  So you have a couple of token feminists telling their version of events.   

And yet despite the 100 or so foreign women you've dated, you're still single.  Go figure.