Google Ranking

[Rvrwind]

I'm sure someone out there knows the answer to this, unfortunately, it ain't me, LOL.
How do I find out the Google Ranking for my website?
Just curious as I was asked & I really don't know & don't know how to find out.
Thanks in advance!

[jb]

Do a Google search of your site, and then count how many other sites are listed before yours.

Incidentally, I noted the other day that this site is at the top on Google when doing a "Russian Women" search, I was impressed.

[Admin]

I'm sure someone out there knows the answer to this, unfortunately, it ain't me, LOL.
How do I find out the Google Ranking for my website?
Just curious as I was asked & I really don't know & don't know how to find out.
Thanks in advance!

There are some Page Rank Engines that can help also.

For example, go to this link -- http://pr.blogflux.com/

Type in your URL - and it will return a result. I just checked for www.tverangels.com - and it returned a PR of 3 - which is the same PR score as www.RussianWomenDiscussion.com.

As jb points out, the very latest Google search results are a better indication of how your site is rated. Even though RWD has a PR of 3, we are more and more, among the highest results on a search.

Just FYI

- Dan

[Rvrwind]

Thanks Guys...
So I got a 3 is that good or bad, relatively speakin'? I had a place I was going to exchange links with but they won't with anybody under a 5, , bummer.
Guess I gotta wait till it climbs up there.

[Admin]

Thanks Guys...
So I got a 3 is that good or bad, relatively speakin'? I had a place I was going to exchange links with but they won't with anybody under a 5, , bummer.
Guess I gotta wait till it climbs up there.

Oh great! Now we get to contend with PageRank snobbery too!   

- Dan

[catzenmouse]

 Yahoo comes up as a 9 so look at it this way Rvr. You are 1/3 of the way to being a Yahoo!

 That ought to put a little zing in your cowboy boots...

 Ken

[Admin]

Yahoo comes up as a 9 so look at it this way Rvr. You are 1/3 of the way to being a Yahoo!

 That ought to put a little zing in your cowboy boots...

 Ken

Yeah - I think even Google comes up as a 9 on the Page Rank score.

BTW - if you are REALLY into the P/R numbers - you can get an MSIE or Firefox toolbar add-on which will show you the PR of every page you visit. Kind of handy - sometimes.

- Dan

[catzenmouse]

 In Yahoo doing a search on "Russian women" RWD comes up 89th with the following in the description area:
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Last Shout - not visible. You are not authorized to view Shouts. Main Menu. Personal Menu. Welcome Guest. User: Pass: Auto-Login: Online Users. 7 users online: Site Stats. 33921 Posts: ... G8 meeting in July, Russian Energy Minister Viktor Khristenko said ... been changed from 'both Russian 22-year-olds to 'both ... element" and Moldova into a Russian protectorate (Moldova.org ...
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 Used to be that you had meta tags for the description for the site. Haven't dealt with search engines for a long time so don't know if that is still the case or not. Will have to research that one.

 Funniest one I saw was "ArmCandyInternational" where they "... get fresh girls for each client..."

 Talk about trying to hook the Gomers out there!

Ken

[Rvrwind]

I was mostly just curious as to the rating because that puts you higher up on the search rating & you get more hits. I don't have a hit counter on my original site but on the newsite I have had over 800 hits to the homepage since launching. Too bad they aren't translating into members.
I think the problem is they see not too many members & don't sign up but what they fail to see is that if they signed up the membership would grow expodentialy. Very few people ever stop to look at the big picture & that is where they fail.
Thanks Ken, a 9 Kool, thats gotta be good, LOL.
Now if I can just get people to take the time to sign up. The women say there are not enough men & the men say there are not enough women, well, if nobody joins, there never will be. DuHHH!!!

[Michelangelo]

You can also pay to be listed first and have a sidebar ad, too!  Cost you a dime or so everytime someone clicks it!

But in my businsses, it is VERY EFFECTIVE advertising.

see Google Ad Words

[Admin]

You can also pay to be listed first and have a sidebar ad, too!  Cost you a dime or so everytime someone clicks it!

But in my businsses, it is VERY EFFECTIVE advertising.

see Google Ad Words

If you are getting away with $.10 CTR - that is PHENOMENAL! Low that is.

- Dan

[andrewfi]

PageRank is pretty much irrelevant. What you need to know is where your pages come in the rankings for a given search term. That said, for link exchanges, if you must do them, PR does still have relevance for the lazy webhamster. Better is to write your own content and get it published around the internet, those links are good quality and serve as advertising. Reciprocal link exchanges are being deprecated becasue they are usually artificial. Article distribution is a very natural form of one way (much better) linking.

Here is a useful tool that allows you to check your site/pages for rank for keywords, number of pages indexed as well as Pagerank and more importantly the quantity and quality of your backlinks.
http://www.linkadage.com/linkadage-info/metrics_checker.htm

Here is the current report for Tver Angels: http://reladvance.com/metrix/find_metrics_results.php?user_request_id=8962
You might wanna keep tabs on the datacentres that have only a few pages indexed. It could be that you are going to get delisted. Run the search every day or so and see what changes.

You are probably not adding enough new content to the site so the relevance of the pages decreases. You either need more women, or to write a load of original articles about the business, your business, Tver as a region etc etc. Add one or two pages a day, or change significantly the content on the same number of pages

[Rvrwind]

Thanks Andrew...
I'm not quite sure what it all means but I think I understand the concept & what I need to do. That being said there are more changes coming down the pike that will do exactly what you suggest, I think.
Pages changing & adding pages. Lot more happening in the future of Tver Angels.
On a side note, did you get my PM?

[andrewfi]

sorry no PM

[Rvrwind]

Okay, I'll resend it.
Thats why I made the query in the other thread about confirmation for PM's.

[Bruno]

Thanks Andrew...
I'm not quite sure what it all means but ...

Not sure the tool is reliable... by curiosity, i have use the URL of my dead site ( 6 month ago )... in the Yahoo line, i have 426 page indexed and 119 back link  Not bad for a site who don't exist since end 2005 !!!

Run the search every day or so and see what changes.

Waste of time and energy... the robot of main search engine scan the web one time every two week... if the search give different result each day, it can mean that the tool is not working very good... Give a delay of one month after some change to the site for see the result of it...

[BillyB]

Rvrwind, If you can't beat them in rankings, join them. Why not put words such as Yahoo, Google, Microsoft, etc... in your site in some way or form or in the metatags? You're sure to get more hits and you might even attract people that never thought about RW to begin with because your target customer base is going to go to the bigger, more popular agencies to start with when they do a search. You've got an uphill battle so you need to be more creative and aggressive if you're going to get a bigger share of the market.

[Rvrwind]

LOL, Billy. As much as that sounds like a good idea I'm pretty sure I could get into some kinda trouble, especially putting them in the Meta Tags.
That would be similar to puting Aweb, CC or EC in my meta tags. I think Iwould be a wanted man, LOL.
Also I'm not so sure the Meta Tags make a big difference anymore. From what I understand it is the content of the site that they judge now for the search engines.
Acually I am getting the hits, lots of hits, turning them into registrations is the problem. Although many are looking they are not registering. That is the part I am working on now.

[Rvrwind]

While I am at it, I have a Question.
Is there a reliable tool out there to search a site & tell me how many pages are on that site?
I used this Metrics tool but it says the site has 150 pages & I am pretty sure that ain't right.
I just need the #of pages without actually flipping through each page.

[Bruno]

While I am at it, I have a Question.
Is there a reliable tool out there to search a site & tell me how many pages are on that site?
I used this Metrics tool but it says the site has 150 pages & I am pretty sure that ain't right.
I just need the #of pages without actually flipping through each page.

Again, you can use Google but the result will not be reliable at 100% since the datavase is updated each two week...

Simple go to "www.google.com" and in the seach box, type "site:domain_name"... and click "search"

By example, type "site:www.tverangels.com"... the result is 93 page... don't forget click "repeat the search with the omitted result included" after the first search.

LOL, Billy. As much as that sounds like a good idea I'm pretty sure I could get into some kinda trouble, especially putting them in the Meta Tags.

No trouble but the result will be bad... robot scam the text of page and decide if the term in the meta tag are relevant... in my previous site, i have use a tool who count words in each page and place in the meta tag the 10 best result... use the same procedure for each page...

Adding article like you make here can be a big help for generate traffic... keywords will be different but always related to russia... these article will be side door for your site...

About link from other, the result can be very little if they are non related site... if you place a banner on a site about "car", search engine will reduce the value of the link since it is not related...

A good link over page rank : http://www.webworkshop.net/pagerank.html

[Shadow]

While I am at it, I have a Question.
Is there a reliable tool out there to search a site & tell me how many pages are on that site?
I used this Metrics tool but it says the site has 150 pages & I am pretty sure that ain't right.
I just need the #of pages without actually flipping through each page.

Richard, just count the number of HTML files in your backup 

I'll post some link in the afternoon.

[Shadow]

[urlhttp://www.iwebtool.com/domain_lookup[/url] is one I use.

about your ranking 
 
Current Pagerank 3 / 10
Predicted Pagerank Cannot determine 
Alexa Ranking 5,143,098 (Click here)
 

about your links 
 
Pages linking to entire www.tverangels.com website 87 
Listings on Google Search 65 (Click here) 
Listings on MSN Search 223 (Click here) 
Listings on Yahoo Search 41 (Click here)
 

[andrewfi]

Not sure the tool is reliable... by curiosity, i have use the URL of my dead site ( 6 month ago )... in the Yahoo line, i have 426 page indexed and 119 back link  Not bad for a site who don't exist since end 2005 !!!

Waste of time and energy... the robot of main search engine scan the web one time every two week... if the search give different result each day, it can mean that the tool is not working very good... Give a delay of one month after some change to the site for see the result of it...

Bruno, the tool can not count what is not there. If it really does not exist in cache form or whatever then it could not be found. eh? For backlinks, it is very likely that backlinks for an unused site will still show, unless, by magic, all the other links were removed at the same time as you took down your site. As you know Google maintains a cache of pages, as you obviously do not know, so do Yahoo and MSN. Those cached pages will hang around for quite some time, especially if the domain name is still valid.

Also you are wrong about indexing. Google uses two different sort of spider, other than the ones for fetching feeds and checking context ads and other specialised functions. THe two indexing spiders work in different ways. One spider visits sites very often and picks up top level pages that have chenged, these results are, for sites with traffic, reflected straight away, the second type does a deeper search, following link paths through the whole site, again the depth of the search varies according t the traffic and the pattern of updating of the site. I have one search engine, not Google, that seems to live at my site, it takes a page roughly every 5 seconds in order to provide up to the minute site search.
My active sites are spidered at least daily and the number of pages varies. Also, Bruno, as you probably missed from the tool's page, there are numerous Google datacentres, these deal with, mainly, different geogrpahic areas and each sends out its own spiders, thus, an active site may find it gets hit by spiders from more than one datacentre. They are however designed in such a way that they should not overduplicate the work.
They do this by sharing data between the centres. This leads to the phenomenon that you claim does not exist. It is called in the business the 'Googledance' and this can be seen from the results from the different datacentres. Over time the results do tend to average out, but in some cases they do not. I have a site that displays to me, in Estonia only about 150 pages in the index. Google has spidered the 30,000+ pages and shows in the index, in the US, a few thousand of them. In fact in all the English speaking parts of the world it shows a large number of pages, less in the heavily non-english speaking.

Billy - It is a VERY VERY bad idea to spam up metatags. Although almost all search engines deprecate their use these days, they are still read as a guide to content, context and relevancy. If one were to have a site that had metatags that were at severe variance to the search engine visible content the chances are that the pages and possibly the whole site would be removed from the index.

Shadow is correct about the number of files. Bruno again has forgotten that it is rare that ALL pages from a site are presented in the index.

Richard, if you do not already have one, you should generate a site map for the search engines, make it easier for them to find you and see what you have: http://www.sitemapbuilder.net/ Follow the instructions and if not already mentioned there, place a copy in your web sites main folder and have a link to it from your home page. As a side benefit, it will show you all the pages that you have, as long as they actually have a link to other pages. No need to manually count files.

Whoops, sorry for all the words.

[Rvrwind]

Okay, I can see I didn't explain myself well enough, LOL.
Its not for my site. I had a program that would go to any site on the internet & read it & report the # of pages to me. It was put in my puter by an associate & was working fine until I had that puter crash about a month or so ago & I lost it completely. Now I need to replace it. I can't even tell you the name of it as it was a Russian program & all in Russian. I just knew which buttons to hit & where to print what to make it work. Thank God #'s are the same in all languages.
I suppose your wondering why I would need such a tool. Well I'd tell ya' but then I'd havta' kill ya'!!! Lets just say it's buisness related & I charge by the page, so I need to know how many pages are on the site to give an estimate for the client before they decide to hire me or not.
Think I'll try the one John mentioned & see what happens. I don't want all the linked pages though, just the actual pages on the clients website.

[Bruno]

Lets just say it's buisness related & I charge by the page, so I need to know how many pages are on the site to give an estimate for the client before they decide to hire me or not.

A page count !!! Very easy, visit http://www.netmechanic.com/page_count.htm

Simple to use and in english...