Four Year Wonders Got Married: Ochka and ML

[ML]

Nice body Olga; thanks for sharing.
Your husband is a lucky man.

[krimster2]

yes...
that IS a flashlight in my pocket!!!!

[olgac]

Thanks! My husband knows!   I just realized some photos didn't get inserted. I fixed it. Should show 4 photos now just took them today

[ML]

Ladies, there is a benefit from marrying a much older man.

When you are losing your beauty; he is losing his eyesight.

[olgac]

LOL Have never heard this reasoning!
Women say that for an older man You will always be young

[krimster2]

a starry kazul with experience
is better than a kid with none

[olgac]

Did fotoshoot for fall colors with my young friend form belarus

[olgac]

OK fixed the photo sizes

We did this so she has photos for her dating profile

[krimster2]

do you haz bikini photos????
don't be shy...


this is a Ukrainian captive I brought back home from pillaging in Ukraine!!!
I showed her old reruns of "I Dream Of Jeannie"
so now she calls me "master"
such a sweet and innocent village girl
I like to put her in Victoria Secret Lingere and have her do a Rita Hayworth pose

say whay you want about babboons
but I think human beings have the finest asses in the primate world
though generally not in the range of colors as babboons

[olgac]

do you haz bikini photos????
don't be shy...

Wow Your wife is beautiful!
Yeah my friend and I are going to a spa next week for her 33 rd birthday, so we might take some

[krimster2]

anticipation...

I didn't marry my wife for her beauty
she is THE STRONGEST woman I ever met!!!
and can carry what 3 average women can carry
so that means I can carry less...

it was a coincidence that she's attractive as well...
I never really thought about it

[ML]

say whay you want about babboons
but I think human beings have the finest asses in the primate world
though generally not in the range of colors as babboons

Mine (her's) is quite OK.

[olgac]

Wow! Lucky You and lucky students

[olgac]

For my friend, Lena, I basically MADE her buy this dress and several others! She doesn't have any dating profile photos in a dress or skirts
She doesn't own any high heel shoes either! So for this photoshoot she wore combat boots LOL.
I have a different size so I couldn't lend her any of mine

I told her that her normal athletic/outdoorsy look is perfectly fine if she just wants to meet her equal, but if she wants a guy making much more and of course 6 feet high and up and fit and below 40, she needs a more feminine looking photos I think

[ML]

My wife's tomatoes.

[olgac]

anticipation...

I didn't marry my wife for her beauty
she is THE STRONGEST woman I ever met!!!
and can carry what 3 average women can carry
so that means I can carry less...

it was a coincidence that she's attractive as well...
I never really thought about it

I LOVE strong fit women! I am taking my excercise seriously too, especially free weights etc

[olgac]

My wife's tomatoes.

Awesome photos!
I guess Your wife doesn't even need the gym as You guys do a lot of physical work for fun
BTW: how do You insert photos here, I am having to insert a public photo link.

I really like the guy who made our photos. in March we have a 25th wedding anniversary and i booked a nice suite
and spa treatments and the same guy will do sexy/bodoir photoshoot for us and a regular photoshoot in our suite

[ML]

OK fixed the photo sizes

We did this so she has photos for her dating profile

Olga, 'Little black dress' always a classic, but you must 'up the game' for a dating profile.

http://www.amazon.com/Mokoru-Bodycon-Sleeveless-Dresses-X-Small/dp/B0CRYFCLDC?source=ps-sl-shoppingads-lpcontext&ref_=fplfs&psc=1&smid=A3NKAJ0UR1X5SI

[olgac]

we need to go shopping again, shoes are a priority now.
my friend already spent at least 1K
nice dress!

[Trenchcoat]

we need to go shopping again, shoes are a priority now.
my friend already spent at least 1K
nice dress!

ML is right while the black dress and black tights combination is a good one to go for that will likely have broad appeal the dress is a bit too conservative. It's not real bad or anything but not as good as it could be with a shorter more revealing dress. I think one of the work mistakes a woman can make and many women do this in their thirties is go too conservative too soon. Most women in their thirties can still look pretty decent in body form if they keep a reasonable diet, so there is no need to go for a dress that covers more unless a woman is fairly old or let herself go a bit at a younger age.

The boots in my opinion also need to go in favour of more ladylike black shoes, something simple is fine and even flats are ok though some guys have a preference for women in high heels maybe even a fetish even. I do not so flats or high heels are fine with me so long as they look reasonable feminine/elegant. I don't know I just find that some younger women these days just tend to have the idea that they can dress bad and still hook the guy they want. It's kind of ridiculous as the guy of course wants something too and that is usually in the wanting a hot feminine looking woman department. I am kind of shocked that your friend was trying to hook guys online without any dress or skirts photos in my opinion they are what guys most want to see, bikini photos also.

That in itself brings in a slight problem and one I came across when I was on Fdate. There were some girls who never really wore dresses & skirts but only did so for a photo shoot. Even if some non dresses & skirts photos are included it can be a little misleading if the girl turns up in anything other and only wears anything other as it's not lining up what a guy wants with what a girl really is and the guy can feel duped and/or disappointed.

Essentially the attire doesn't really have to cost a lot but to appeal to most men it needs to be the right style. Men are often less bothered with cost of clothing and more about how the stuff if clothing looks in my opinion. Of course cheap Supermarket clothing is probably going too far though.

Anyway, unfortunately I come to a much bigger problem for your friend Olga. Lena is ok looking but I would say she is everyday looking, average looking rather than above average/model looking. Most people are average everyday looking so nothing to be ashamed off and we don't get a choice in it anyway. However if she is looking to bag a wealthy guy earning $150k or more they are likely to go for the more pretty girls. I personally think she is shooting out of her league and isn't grounded enough to reality. I'm not saying it's impossible just probably very unlikely, never say never as they say. I mean if the guy is socially inept, or a bit unattractive looking or has bad character traits and earns $150k then who knows. If Lena has good character traits over some pretty girl who may strays who knows. However I think she is likely over pricing herself and not in tune with what the market place can realistically garner for her. If she is on the materialistic side that can put of guys also, as can high expectations of what she wants in a man, particularly if she expects a wealthy man, that can be like a repellant to men.

If in doubt about her looks the Photofeeler online website is a good one to use to check on looks. You can upload dating profile photos and male users rate them, then a computer algorithm is used to adjust for erroneous responses, it's pretty accurate I find. My guess is your friend might score between a 5 to a 6 out of 10. That is generally an everyday average looking person score. Most pretty girls will consistently score around the 7 to 8 range for comparison. I have been with at least a couple of pretty girls so have the priveledge of knowing the terrain

Also the art of showing of the right amount of breast in the right way is a good one for your friend to try to master

[olgac]

Well this is what my friend is saying that she normally doesn't wear dresses or skirts or feminine shoes so the photos will be misleading. Some of the dresses she bought are more revealing.
But need shoes.
SO my response is then START wearing dresses, skirts, nice shoes or sandals etc. We will see.
I think going to dates in jeans is not a good idea

BTW 150K is by no means wealthy at all! Any engineer will make this much with programmwers with few years of experience usually making over 200K even if they work for regular companies not high flyers with huge stock grants.

Photofeeler is a good idea I will let her know. And I guess we will see whom she can attract, she IS getting dates she just drops the men because of no sexual attraction or because they are not paying for everting and not taking initiative in planning all the outings. Recently she stopped dating a guy because he was Romanian LOL even though he is in US for 10+ years and is successful and tall.

I honestly tink she is much cuter than 5

[Trenchcoat]

Well this is what my friend is saying that she normally doesn't wear dresses or skirts or feminine shoes so the photos will be misleading. Some of the dresses she bought are more revealing.
But need shoes.
SO my response is then START wearing dresses, skirts, nice shoes or sandals etc. We will see.
I think going to dates in jeans is not a good idea

I agree going to dates in jeans is not a good idea and if your friend can take to wearing dresses & skirts then that will be better. It will have a lot better appeal with men I think. Really while women have kind of put across the idea that is ok for women to wear jeans it's not really a winner with most men or what they really want to see, men will generally accept it but rarely jeans do anything extra for them, tight fitting ones aren't bad if a woman is in shape and girls that are very pretty will look good in virtually anything of course, but did most women they aren't usually the best move.

I think as a girl gets past her teen years, even twenties it's better to move on from that kind of casual sometimes depending on style almost sloppy gear especially as you say if looking for a wealthy man they are likely to want to see it even less.

If you'd friend is into sport then I do wonder if she might be more content giving up on chasing wealthy men and going for men that are into the sane thing as she is and to hell with where they live and what accomodation they are in. A room at the end of the day is a room it's somewhere to live in, it will function much like any other room.

I remember what my form Tutor in High School once told the class, he advised to, 'find someone like you' and I think that's pretty good advice. Doesn't have to be exactly the same but being with a person who is generally like you can help I think.

[olgac]

again 150K-170K is BY FAR not wealthy around here! It's just a normal experienced professional salary, and it didn't come out of nowhere, this is literally THE salary required to purchase a small modest house in our area on a single icome!
Without making at least 150K a man can not be a provider with wife staying at home! Unless of course he bought his
house 10+ years ago! But then he is too old for her!

But You are right! She CAN find her equal to go hiking, skiing, SUP, gym whatever with, and then if she keeps working they can together afford a house, and for this she doesn't need to dress up or anything

A guy in his mid 30s without kids who is a good provider does have options though and normally in my experience
working with high earning men (not 150K much higher ) these do tend to marry younger women 25-28.
And yes You need to look more faminine and be in a sense a traditional woman if You want to attract a traditional
guy who is willing to take a financial responsibility for a woman.

And I agree already in Your 20s You need to stop dressing like a teenager. Well You don't NEED to, this day and age
a woman can do whatever the hell she wants, my own daughter has always been a tomboy, played with cars and trains,
hated princesses and hated wearing dresses and color pink! Even though I always dressed very feminine as she was growing
up, sometimes it's just a child's personality! But hey she doesn't want a traditional guy to support her either, she is studying
computer science 3rd year, so she can dress whatever way she wants really. Luckily she is naturally slim and is fit/healthy. Same for my friend! I am the last person
to dictate how a woman should dress And in case of my friend my concern is only dictated by what her requirements
are for a spouse and the fact that she will be 33 already next week and wants children!

As far as shoes I have always preferred heels as they make Your legs look much longer and your buttocks stick out LOL . But I guess there are nice looking
flats especially sandals. in 30s dresses can be more revealing for sure especially if a woman is in good shape.
When I turned 45 I stopped wearing miniskirts to work and parties, only on tropical vacations, but it's just me.
I also cut my hair shorter, just below shoulder, as I find weird when a middle aged woman has really long hair.
But again, my own personal preference
I now mostly wear knee length narrow skirts like on my photo on the previous page.

And going out to a restaurant or a club is for sure not a jean occasion. If You are going to do outdoor activities
and show off how strong and fit (krimster! ) You are then of course You dress sporty
I think we need to invest much more $$$ into my friend's wardrobe especially shoes and different boots.
Unfortunately she just spent $180 on some new combat looking boots I think Thursday Boot Company and rejected
all the more feminine boots I suggested because they would make her look too matronly
I think this is the boots she got and again she won't have anything for dates in the winter
http://thursdayboots.com/products/womens-coda-boot-black-leather
I mean same company at least had these:
http://thursdayboots.com/products/womens-knockout-chelsea-boot-black-leather
which are A LITTLE better

And btw I do like tight fitting flattering jeans especially with high heels but my friend has HORRIBLE baggy jeans which make her look much heavier. I literally have a photo from my birthday of me, her and another 53 year old Ukrainian woman where me and an older woman are wearing skirts/dresses and my friend wears baggy unflattering jeans with holes and she looks much bigger than both of us! I do tell her my opinion honestly about her jeans but she claims this is what Young people wear nowdays.
oh well ...

[krimster2]

"Your legs look much longer and your buttocks stick out LOL"

function follows form
it's supposed to do that

accentuates gluteal and leg muscles
a tightly built FSU woman
dressed like this can stop traffic in the USA

my wife is VERY useful to me when I shop in electronics stores especially when she's wearing a low-cut top

takes forever for me to get service
my wife just walks up to the front of the line, like it's her right
and everyone makes way for her
everyone just stares at her with their mouths hanging open, looking her up and down
while she buys what I need
and we leave

saves me a good 10 minutes, each time
my wife will never get a traffic ticket, for the same reason, unless it's a female cop

[Trenchcoat]

again 150K-170K is BY FAR not wealthy around here! It's just a normal experienced professional salary, and it didn't come out of nowhere, this is literally THE salary required to purchase a small modest house in our area on a single icome!
Without making at least 150K a man can not be a provider with wife staying at home! Unless of course he bought his
house 10+ years ago! But then he is too old for her!

But You are right! She CAN find her equal to go hiking, skiing, SUP, gym whatever with, and then if she keeps working they can together afford a house, and for this she doesn't need to dress up or anything

A guy in his mid 30s without kids who is a good provider does have options though and normally in my experience
working with high earning men (not 150K much higher ) these do tend to marry younger women 25-28.
And yes You need to look more faminine and be in a sense a traditional woman if You want to attract a traditional
guy who is willing to take a financial responsibility for a woman.

And I agree already in Your 20s You need to stop dressing like a teenager. Well You don't NEED to, this day and age
a woman can do whatever the hell she wants, my own daughter has always been a tomboy, played with cars and trains,
hated princesses and hated wearing dresses and color pink! Even though I always dressed very feminine as she was growing
up, sometimes it's just a child's personality! But hey she doesn't want a traditional guy to support her either, she is studying
computer science 3rd year, so she can dress whatever way she wants really. Luckily she is naturally slim and is fit/healthy. Same for my friend! I am the last person
to dictate how a woman should dress And in case of my friend my concern is only dictated by what her requirements
are for a spouse and the fact that she will be 33 already next week and wants children!

As far as shoes I have always preferred heels as they make Your legs look much longer and your buttocks stick out LOL . But I guess there are nice looking
flats especially sandals. in 30s dresses can be more revealing for sure especially if a woman is in good shape.
When I turned 45 I stopped wearing miniskirts to work and parties, only on tropical vacations, but it's just me.
I also cut my hair shorter, just below shoulder, as I find weird when a middle aged woman has really long hair.
But again, my own personal preference
I now mostly wear knee length narrow skirts like on my photo on the previous page.

And going out to a restaurant or a club is for sure not a jean occasion. If You are going to do outdoor activities
and show off how strong and fit (krimster! ) You are then of course You dress sporty
I think we need to invest much more $$$ into my friend's wardrobe especially shoes and different boots.
Unfortunately she just spent $180 on some new combat looking boots I think Thursday Boot Company and rejected
all the more feminine boots I suggested because they would make her look too matronly
I think this is the boots she got and again she won't have anything for dates in the winter
http://thursdayboots.com/products/womens-coda-boot-black-leather
I mean same company at least had these:
http://thursdayboots.com/products/womens-knockout-chelsea-boot-black-leather
which are A LITTLE better

And btw I do like tight fitting flattering jeans especially with high heels but my friend has HORRIBLE baggy jeans which make her look much heavier. I literally have a photo from my birthday of me, her and another 53 year old Ukrainian woman where me and an older woman are wearing skirts/dresses and my friend wears baggy unflattering jeans with holes and she looks much bigger than both of us! I do tell her my opinion honestly about her jeans but she claims this is what Young people wear nowdays.
oh well ...

Your selection of boots are far better than hers in my opinion, a more feminine edge to them.

Baggy jeans are the worst, just so boring on a woman and do nothing to enhance it show off the figure. She won't stick out to men wearing those and could be condemning herself to a life of miserable singledom for it.

I think your friend Lena is still in the mindset of her youth and hasn't moved on, of a girl in her teens to her early twenties. Her fashion for combat boots etc gives me the impression of that age group.


So my sketch artist profile in my mind of her counterpart goes something like this:

Her counterpart is a Male perhaps around his thirties or older who hasn't grown up and is still playing video games in his free time and wears graphic t-shirts, jeans & trainers like he did so growing up in his teenage years.That or maybe shorts or combat trousers.Suits & shirts are a no go for him unless no other choice for the office. Potentially he may earn well though as a computer programmer, the computer programming industry seems to attract many of these overgrown kids that haven't grown up but are good at computer programming. He may be somewhere around the 6ft mark but almost certainly skinny possibly a bit lanky and either everyday looking or not so attractive looking. Possibly also he might be a bit socially inept or the odd not so great character trait but probably overall not such a bad guy.

How would someone like that sound to your friend?