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Re: Top U.S. general says it is time to consider arming Ukrainian forces
« Reply #50 on: March 04, 2015, 10:58:58 PM »
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Neville , not at all , how can one be upset by a fool ??




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Re: Top U.S. general says it is time to consider arming Ukrainian forces
« Reply #51 on: March 04, 2015, 11:07:36 PM »
Neville , not at all , how can one be upset by a fool ??




SX  just thought it might be easier to talk with you at your level under the bed  :)
Don't blame me that western representatives don't agree with your foolish viewpoints.   I'm a little worried for you if you now are fantasizing about being in my bedroom under our bed.  Very odd place this fantasy is taking you,  but continue.

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Re: Top U.S. general says it is time to consider arming Ukrainian forces
« Reply #52 on: March 04, 2015, 11:11:26 PM »
Girls, let's get back on topic...

This photo of a 21 year old Russian soldier makes me sad...such a young life to be lost, and what for?

All for the ego of a ruthless dictator.  I recently read of an opposition journalist who stated that these young men are not dying for Russia, they are dying for Putin.  Tragic.

Contrary to the viewpoint of fathertime, US and other Western weapons will not increase these deaths in the long run.  It's proven time and time again throughout history that a very good defense can save lives.


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Re: Top U.S. general says it is time to consider arming Ukrainian forces
« Reply #53 on: March 04, 2015, 11:12:35 PM »
AC , nailed it right there ,

if there was to be any troops on the ground ''we'' australia have always kept our obligations with our allies , our word means something ,

im young enough to fight if it was required ,not 30 , but well expereinced & happy to defend my values and those of my family .
 ukraine is home to some of my family , so we have skin in the game , and if things got into  a WW3 SCENARIO i would put my hand up ,

unlike our resident neville ,still hiding under his bed , just pull your blanket tighter ft  neville it will all be ok soon ft neville   ;D ;D ;D  still got your torch there matey ?  yes i thought so , thats it , switch it on , yes its ok to be scared off the dark  little neville ft

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SX ,edit .. this low siggy is so neville can see it from under his bed , if he peeps from under the blanket  ;D


Funny, coming from someone who posts from the comforts of his own home.  It's easy to act tough knowing you will never be called upon.  You sound like AC who wants everyone to fight on behalf of him.  Next you will be using manly words like "panty waist".

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Re: Top U.S. general says it is time to consider arming Ukrainian forces
« Reply #54 on: March 04, 2015, 11:19:24 PM »
Girls, let's get back on topic...

This photo of a 21 year old Russian soldier makes me sad...such a young life to be lost, and what for?

All for the ego of a ruthless dictator.  I recently read of an opposition journalist who stated that these young men are not dying for Russia, they are dying for Putin.  Tragic.

Contrary to the viewpoint of fathertime, US and other Western weapons will not increase these deaths in the long run.  It's proven time and time again throughout history that a very good defense can save lives.


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AC -it is strange that the apologists for Putin want to divert every thread to be about the posters here-- and have shown zero concern for young Russian men being killed. My preference is for them to pack up and leave Ukraine alive--but they are under orders to fight there.
So why is it that these apologists are not criticising Putin and his Kremlin cronies?
SLAVA UKRAYINI  ! HEROYAM SLAVA!!!!
Слава Украине! Слава героям слава!Слава Україні! Слава героям!
 translated as: Glory to Ukraine! Glory to the heroes!!!  is a Ukrainian greeting slogan being used now all over Ukraine to signify support for a free independent Ukraine

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Re: Top U.S. general says it is time to consider arming Ukrainian forces
« Reply #55 on: March 04, 2015, 11:22:41 PM »
AC -it is strange that the apologists for Putin want to divert every thread to be about the posters here-- and have shown zero concern for young Russian men being killed. My preference is for them to pack up and leave Ukraine alive--but they are under orders to fight there.
So why is it that these apologists are not criticising Putin and his Kremlin cronies?


Not any more strange than you demanding other people to say what you want to hear.  If anyone says otherwise, you go into crazy mode and start calling people kremlin trolls.  You have some issues and Ukraine isn't one of them. 

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Re: Top U.S. general says it is time to consider arming Ukrainian forces
« Reply #56 on: March 04, 2015, 11:22:53 PM »

Funny, coming from someone who posts from the comforts of his own home.  It's easy to act tough knowing you will never be called upon.  You sound like AC who wants everyone to fight on behalf of him.  Next you will be using manly words like "panty waist".

Aren't you the guy who believes 9/11 never happened? Or was it you that believes the US never landed men on the moon?
Seriously-- this little bunch of  pro-Putin apologists have some seriously nutty beliefs-- in more recent times-- "there are no russian military in Ukraine"-- their craziness just keeps coming !! :welcome: ;D
SLAVA UKRAYINI  ! HEROYAM SLAVA!!!!
Слава Украине! Слава героям слава!Слава Україні! Слава героям!
 translated as: Glory to Ukraine! Glory to the heroes!!!  is a Ukrainian greeting slogan being used now all over Ukraine to signify support for a free independent Ukraine

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Re: Top U.S. general says it is time to consider arming Ukrainian forces
« Reply #57 on: March 04, 2015, 11:23:44 PM »
Aren't you the guy who believes 9/11 never happened? Or was it you that believes the US never landed men on the moon?
Seriously-- this little bunch of  pro-Putin apologists have some seriously nutty beliefs-- in more recent times-- "there are no russian military in Ukraine"-- their craziness just keeps coming !! :welcome: ;D


Then there is more crazy talk with accusations of nonsense like believing 9/11 never happened.  Really, you need a doctor.

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Re: Top U.S. general says it is time to consider arming Ukrainian forces
« Reply #58 on: March 04, 2015, 11:24:48 PM »

Then there is more crazy talk by accusing others of nonsense like believing 9/11 never happened.  Really, you need a doctor.

Not you? How about the moon landing? That is you correct? :)
SLAVA UKRAYINI  ! HEROYAM SLAVA!!!!
Слава Украине! Слава героям слава!Слава Україні! Слава героям!
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Re: Top U.S. general says it is time to consider arming Ukrainian forces
« Reply #59 on: March 04, 2015, 11:25:13 PM »
Not you? How about the moon landing? That is you correct? :)


Still looking crazy, dude.  Keep it coming.  It's like you have tourettes.

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Re: Top U.S. general says it is time to consider arming Ukrainian forces
« Reply #60 on: March 04, 2015, 11:26:12 PM »
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Funny, . 
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none of whats going on in ukraine is funny , its tragic and devastating to millions of people

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  coming from someone who posts from the comforts of his own home. .   

incorrect ,  im not at home


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It's easy to act tough knowing you will never be called upon.  .   

''never''  is a very long time , escalation of the situation is quite probable at least a 50/50 id say , defending my values is just facts , no bragg

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Re: Top U.S. general says it is time to consider arming Ukrainian forces
« Reply #61 on: March 04, 2015, 11:28:09 PM »
incorrect ,  im not at home


''never''  is a very long time , escalation of the situation is quite probable at least a 50/50 id say , defending my values is just facts , no bragg

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You are correct, nothing happening in Ukraine is funny.  You can defend your values anytime you want.  You do not need to wait to be called up.  You can go to Ukraine and serve those values right now. 


What's stopping you? 

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Re: Top U.S. general says it is time to consider arming Ukrainian forces
« Reply #62 on: March 04, 2015, 11:33:50 PM »
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whats stopping you ?

lol go back and read what i wrote

the situation has not escalated to the point of ww3 yet , if ukraine is given access to better weapons to defend itself it very well may go either way ,if it where to erupt into a more global war scenario  then  in that case id go if i could

just facts

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Re: Top U.S. general says it is time to consider arming Ukrainian forces
« Reply #63 on: March 04, 2015, 11:35:45 PM »
lol go back and read what i wrote

the situation has not escalated to the point of ww3 yet , if ukraine is given access to better weapons to defend itself it very well may go either way ,if it where to erupt into a more global war scenario  then  in that case id go if i could

just facts

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Ah, ok, only until the time arises where it directly affects you and Australia will you fight for your values. Until then, you will make fun of FT who is saying the same thing when it comes to involving US men and women in Ukraine.

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« Reply #64 on: March 04, 2015, 11:38:54 PM »
Aren't you the guy who believes 9/11 never happened? Or was it you that believes the US never landed men on the moon?
Seriously-- this little bunch of  pro-Putin apologists have some seriously nutty beliefs-- in more recent times-- "there are no russian military in Ukraine"-- their craziness just keeps coming !! :welcome: ;D
These are ridiculous statements YOU  are making and attributing to others.  It is a desperate attempt to marginalize another viewpoint that you don't like.  There are plenty of very sane and intelligent people that believe US  military involvement is the wrong move to make. 

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« Reply #65 on: March 04, 2015, 11:43:17 PM »
lol go back and read what i wrote

the situation has not escalated to the point of ww3 yet , if ukraine is given access to better weapons to defend itself it very well may go either way ,if it where to erupt into a more global war scenario  then  in that case id go if i could

just facts

SX

Since you say you believe so strongly it seems pretty yellow of you to sit around cowering when you could be fighting for the cause you SAY you hold so dear.   Why continue to hide under your bed?

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« Reply #66 on: March 04, 2015, 11:50:16 PM »

Ah, ok, only until the time arises where it directly affects you and Australia will you fight for your values. Until then, you will make fun of FT who is saying the same thing when it comes to involving US men and women in Ukraine.
Hey LFU, what you have here is several cowards who are waiting for someone else's children to go fight a war FOR them.  They are just like the politicians they complain about. .all talk no action.

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« Reply #67 on: March 04, 2015, 11:58:34 PM »
Hey LFU, what you have here is several cowards who are waiting for someone else's children to go fight a war FOR them.  They are just like the politicians they complain about. .all talk no action.

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Yes, I have noticed a lot of bravado being thrown around. 

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« Reply #68 on: March 05, 2015, 12:01:05 AM »
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LFU Ah, ok, only until the time arises where it directly affects you and Australia will you fight for your values. Until then, you will make fun of FT who is saying the same thing when it comes to involving US men and women in Ukraine.

ah , no it is affecting us now , & we have been  helping  to defend our values 

however if as i support,  ukraine is given weapons to defend itself  they would be in a much better position to enforce peace on their land

ft is arguing for total apeasement ,however  given the US signed the budapest agreement after convincing ukraine it should remove its nuclear arsenal , there is a moral obligation to help ukraine defend itself i believe by the US as well as the UK ,

if a war  was to ensue it would be all in ,

show me where in my posts i  said the US or australia should send troops ??


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Since you say you believe so strongly it seems pretty yellow of you to sit around cowering when you could be fighting for the cause you SAY you hold so dear.   Why continue to hide under your bed?

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tap away neville  you little troll

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Re: Top U.S. general says it is time to consider arming Ukrainian forces
« Reply #69 on: March 05, 2015, 12:05:04 AM »

Funny, coming from someone who posts from the comforts of his own home.  It's easy to act tough knowing you will never be called upon.  You sound like AC who wants everyone to fight on behalf of him.  Next you will be using manly words like "panty waist".

What a surprise.  Fathertimes douche-bag doppelganger shows up just in the nick of time!

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« Reply #70 on: March 05, 2015, 12:11:58 AM »
ah , no it is affecting us now , & we have been  helping  to defend our values 

however if as i support,  ukraine is given weapons to defend itself  they would be in a much better position to enforce peace on their land

ft is arguing for total apeasement ,however  given the US signed the budapest agreement after convinving ukraine it should remove its nuclear arsenal , there is a moral obligation to help ukraine defend itself i believe by the US as well as the UK ,

if a war  was to ensue it would be all in ,

show me where in my posts i  said the US or australia should send troops ??




lol  Now, we are getting somewhere.  FT was correct, you and others like 'fight for me or be a coward" AC want others to fight the fight while you sit back and say you are willing to do what needs to be done.  Yet you won't do anything until you are "called up" to fight.


Surely your values are strong enough to warrant action without being told.  I am sure the Ukraine army will love to have you fighting the good fight.


Would you be for giving Ukraine weapons if you absolutely knew it would start world war 3? 


In any case, you posted this...



AC , nailed it right there , if there was to be any troops on the ground ''we'' australia have always kept our obligations with our allies , our word means something , im young enough to fight if it was required ,not 30 , but well expereinced & happy to defend my values and those of my family .  ukraine is home to some of my family , so we have skin in the game , and if things got into  a WW3 SCENARIO i would put my hand up , unlike our resident neville ,still hiding under his bed , just pull your blanket tighter ft  neville it will all be ok soon ft neville   ;D ;D ;D   still got your torch there matey ?  yes i thought so , thats it , switch it on , yes its ok to be scared off the dark  little neville ftSX SX ,edit .. this low siggy is so neville can see it from under his bed , if he peeps from under the blanket  ;D 



You say FT is scared yet you want the US and UK to handle this situation while you sit back in your cozy chair telling us how you would fight at a moment's notice. 


You have skin in the game.  You have family there yet you sit in Oz doing nothing.

So much bravado and so little substance.
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Re: Top U.S. general says it is time to consider arming Ukrainian forces
« Reply #71 on: March 05, 2015, 12:14:14 AM »
What a surprise.  Fathertimes douche-bag doppelganger shows up just in the nick of time!


Hey LT, how is your dress?

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Re: Top U.S. general says it is time to consider arming Ukrainian forces
« Reply #72 on: March 05, 2015, 12:17:43 AM »

Yes, I have noticed a lot of bravado being thrown around.

Amidst the cowardly comments of a couple of trolls who would give Ukraine and the whole World away to Putin if it was possible.

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« Reply #73 on: March 05, 2015, 12:21:32 AM »
Amidst the cowardly comments of a couple of trolls who would give Ukraine and the whole World away to Putin if it was possible.


Let me guess, you are preparing for Putin by playing more video shooting games.  You go girl!

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« Reply #74 on: March 05, 2015, 12:31:44 AM »
lfu   read what i have posted,
your comprehension skills need some work id say mate ,

 you dont work for RT by any chance do you ?


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