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Re: Hi, my name is Natasha :)
« Reply #50 on: March 10, 2015, 11:17:30 AM »
Wow, it seems like you have no control over your own profile. You should definitely close that account and sign up with some of the sites that have already been suggested here.  ;)

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Although I doubt if they will allow her to close it.  She's basically in internet purgatory for a good long while.

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Re: Hi, my name is Natasha :)
« Reply #51 on: March 10, 2015, 11:18:54 AM »
Wow, it seems like you have no control over your own profile. You should definitely close that account and sign up with some of the sites that have already been suggested here.  ;)
Yes, you're right. This is not very convenient. I can not change your own data. What would change the name, photo, height \ weight, personal information I need to go to the agency. Only an administrator can change my profile.
That's not all. The site russiandesire.kom an interesting feature. This is a hidden album with photos. Not see it all site users (men). I could open it only to those to whom I want. BUT. I can not load a photo itself. And I can not see - that to be in my album. It is not convenient.

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Re: Hi, my name is Natasha :)
« Reply #52 on: March 10, 2015, 01:07:49 PM »
my nickname came up I did not. I went to the agency. There have basic information about me. Then I went home. They register a me. Name they come up with themselves not interested in what I want.A week later, my profile has been approved. They say my password to access the site. Only later did I find out - what my nickname. I ask - can I change it? They said yes. I then propose several new options to name. But they were denied (they were already on the site. That's why I could not use them again. They are busy). why I decided not to change the name.

I'd like to clarify something with you, Natali.  If I'm interpreting what you've posted correctly you went personally (in person yourself) to either an HRB office or an affiliate (an agency in partnership with HRB) agency's office, is that right (please correct me if I'm wrong)?

I ask this because the sign up procedure on line for the HRB website itself requires the lady, and I'd assume the gentlemen, to pick a username themselves as outlined in their sign up instruction video...

http://russianwomenblog.
hotrussianbrides.com/post/
How-to-Join-HotRussianBridescom-Video.aspx

My questions is did you sign up with HRB over the counter(with a real person) at an agency office or sign up on line at the agency office at a computer station?

In any event did you change your password at least. I assume the agency issued the password as well, yes?

Also, does this paragraph/link hold true with you (is this what happens)?

..."So, how do the ladies get your emails? Independent Company/agency Representatives located within the former Soviet Union. We work with over 150 Independent Representatives throughout Russia and Ukraine. In order to access our website, a lady must visit the office of a local Independent Representative. When you send an email to a lady, it is sent to her inbox on our website and a copy is forwarded to the office of her Independent Representative. The Independent Representative will contact the lady to let her know she has a letter waiting for her."...

[copyright issues may preclude me from posting the narrative above. Mods remove if there is a concern, the link is sufficient]

http://www.hotrussianbrides.com/
russian-bride-dating-tip/email-reply-length.htm

Personally I don't see a problem with the username 'wild energy' myself. It doesn't convey anything suggestive or untowards to my mind but if you're unhappy with it maybe you should take the time to request the change if you didn't pick it.

I do note, however, HRB does state that you cannot change your username on their resources page...

..."How do I change my username or password?

While you cannot change your username, you can change your password by logging in and clicking "My Account," located in the navigation bar at the bottom of your homepage. On the following page, click "Edit Account" and proceed to change your password. When finished, click "Submit".

Quick Steps from My Home:
1.Click "My Account"
2.Click "Edit Account"
3.Change Password
4.Click "Submit"...

[again Mods, if there's a concern with copyright please remove the narrative the link is sufficient]

http://www.hotrussianbrides.com/
russian_brides_resources/hot_russian_
brides_frequently_asked_questions.htm#My%20Account-5

The reason for not allowing a username change may be two fold: Minimizing complaints from male (or female) members thinking they've discovered the same woman/man under two usernames if they happen to have uploaded an older version of a member's profile then find her/him under the new name; and

Administration keeping track of usernames that have been changed for email/forwarding or even abuse of account purposes.

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Re: Hi, my name is Natasha :)
« Reply #53 on: March 10, 2015, 03:29:18 PM »
I'd like to clarify something with you, Natali.  If I'm interpreting what you've posted correctly you went personally (in person yourself) to either an HRB office or an affiliate (an agency in partnership with HRB) agency's office, is that right (please correct me if I'm wrong)?

I ask this because the sign up procedure on line for the HRB website itself requires the lady, and I'd assume the gentlemen, to pick a username themselves as outlined in their sign up instruction video...

My questions is did you sign up with HRB over the counter(with a real person) at an agency office or sign up on line at the agency office at a computer station?

In any event did you change your password at least. I assume the agency issued the password as well, yes?

Also, does this paragraph/link hold true with you (is this what happens)?

..."So, how do the ladies get your emails? Independent Company/agency Representatives located within the former Soviet Union. We work with over 150 Independent Representatives throughout Russia and Ukraine. In order to access our website, a lady must visit the office of a local Independent Representative. When you send an email to a lady, it is sent to her inbox on our website and a copy is forwarded to the office of her Independent Representative. The Independent Representative will contact the lady to let her know she has a letter waiting for her."...

[copyright issues may preclude me from posting the narrative above. Mods remove if there is a concern, the link is sufficient]

Personally I don't see a problem with the username 'wild energy' myself. It doesn't convey anything suggestive or untowards to my mind but if you're unhappy with it maybe you should take the time to request the change if you didn't pick it.

I do note, however, HRB does state that you cannot change your username on their resources page...

..."How do I change my username or password?

While you cannot change your username, you can change your password by logging in and clicking "My Account," located in the navigation bar at the bottom of your homepage. On the following page, click "Edit Account" and proceed to change your password. When finished, click "Submit".

Quick Steps from My Home:
1.Click "My Account"
2.Click "Edit Account"
3.Change Password
4.Click "Submit"...

[again Mods, if there's a concern with copyright please remove the narrative the link is sufficient]

The reason for not allowing a username change may be two fold: Minimizing complaints from male (or female) members thinking they've discovered the same woman/man under two usernames if they happen to have uploaded an older version of a member's profile then find her/him under the new name; and

Administration keeping track of usernames that have been changed for email/forwarding or even abuse of account purposes.

Brass

Привет! Я с удовольствием отвечу на все интересующие Вас вопросы.
К сожалению я не все поняла, что вы писали. Но все же я попробую дать вам ответы. И я решила дать ответ на русском  языке дабы избежать путаницу( я выше писала, что я не владею Английским языком. Если я попытаюсь все это перевести- возникнет еще большая путаница).
If I'm interpreting what you've posted correctly you went personally (in person yourself) to either an HRB office or an affiliate (an agency in partnership with HRB) agency's office, is that right (please correct me if I'm wrong)?
Да. Моя знакомая пользовалась агентством. Благодаря нему она нашла себе мужа и уехала в Америку. Она посоветовала мне это агентство . Она дала мне адрес и я пошла туда .Когда я пришла в агентство у меня потребовали паспорт(я должна была доказать, что я совершеннолетняя и что я не состою в браке) . Затем они отсканировали  мой паспорт для сайта. Потом они дали мне договор, который я должна была подписать и прочитать на камеру( договор они тоже отсканировали .Видео тоже прикрепили ко всему остальному ).
* когда я читала договор, в другой руке я держала открытый паспорт.На видео должно было четко слышно,что я говорю и хорошо видно мое лицо и мой паспорт. Я должна была показать, что я реальный человек.
- это я прочитала на камеру
- это я подписала
После этого они записали мои данные (возраст, параметры, профессия…У них был список вопросов, на которые я должна была ответить).Так же я принесла несколько фото на флешке для анкеты и они их забрали. После этого они  сказали, что когда данные будут обработаны и одобрены сайтом они свяжутся со мной. Все данные на сайт вводила администратор агентства. Я в этом не принимала участия.
Ваша видео-инструкция… Я не делала ничего подобного .
Через неделю мне позвонили из агентства. Они сказали, что моя анкета одобрена и доступна на сайте. Они сказали, что бы я снова пришла в агентство. Когда я пришла, они дали мне мои данные (имя пользователя и пароль, необходимые для входа на сайт).Потом они показали, как нужно пользоваться сайтом ( этот сайт частично на английском языке. Они показали, как искать мужчин, как писать письма и как общаться в чате).
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Я не все поняла, что тут сказано. Я просто расскажу то, что я знаю.
Я обратилась в агентство. У этого агентства есть филиалы по всей Украине. Они представляют собой офисы. В этом офисе есть администратор и переводчик. Так же в этом офисе есть несколько компьютеров с веб-камерой. Если девушка не может общаться дома по какой-то причине, она может делать это в агентстве . Т.е. агентство предоставляет все необходимое, для общения на сайте. Некоторые девушки не имеют компьютера дома ( по той или иной причине ). Но много девушек хотят найти мужа –иностранца. Агентство дает им такую возможность . Девушка всегда может прийти в офис и воспользоваться компьютером ( но предварительно нужно позвонить и записаться на определенное время. Что бы компьютер был свободный и в офисе был администратор и переводчик, если потребуется помощь).

Personally I don't see a problem with the username 'wild energy' myself. It doesn't convey anything suggestive or untowards to my mind but if you're unhappy with it maybe you should take the time to request the change if you didn't pick it.
Лично я думаю, что этот ник не подходит для меня. У меня оно вызывает ассоциацию с девушкой легкого поведения ( я считаю себя серьезной девушкой . И так думают многие мужчины, которые долгое время общаются со мной и хорошо меня знают. Это ник вводит многих мужчин в заблуждение). Но все имена, которые на которые я хотела изменить , были уже заняты . На сайте не может быть 2 пользователя с одинаковыми именами .
Теперь по поводу этого :

Дело в том, что у меня нет такой функции .Сейчас я попробую вам объяснить – почему. Дело в том, что я вхожу на  другой сайт. Все девушки зарегистрированы и используют сайт http://www.zolushka.net/ . Т.е. для мужчин и для женщин разный вход на сайт. Это 2 разный сайта. Но они связаны  между собой . Я не знаю, как это объяснить .
Я вхожу на сайт ЗОЛУШКА. И общаюсь с мужчинами. Но эти мужчины заходят на сайт РУССКИЕ ГОРЯЧИЕ НЕВЕСТЫ и общаются со мной .
Так вот. На моем сайте (ЗОЛУШКА), с которого я  общаюсь нет возможности менять данные. Он отличается от сайта РУССКИЕ ГОРЯЧИЕ НЕВЕСТЫ.
Я прикреплю вам скриншоты моего сайта.( это все доступные страницы на сайте. Тут ничего нельзя редактировать  кроме презентационного письма).

*презентационное письмо, это первое письмо, которое я могу послать мужчине. В нем обычно пишется краткая информация о девушке. Это заранее заготовленное письмо. Его отправляют нажатием одной кнопки возле фото мужчины.

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Re: Hi, my name is Natasha :)
« Reply #54 on: March 10, 2015, 05:32:24 PM »

Those pictures refreshes my memory. Zolushka Love is the site women in the FSU use to sign up at the agency. Many don't realize they are actually signing up for Hotrussianbrides which is not as romantic sounding as Zolushka Love. Not many family oriented women would sign up for a company named HRB.


It's unfortunate you can't change your profile name. Would you like to write a man named Wild Fire? Your profile tells me you're a family oriented woman and you should be able to choose a name that fits your personality and character. I've seen much worse names than yours. There was a woman with big breasts and the agency named her profile "Huge Melons".


It's best to use other agencies. You may not have as many men writing you at those agencies but they would be better quality men. Good luck.
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Re: Hi, my name is Natasha :)
« Reply #55 on: March 10, 2015, 05:49:13 PM »
There was a woman with big breasts and the agency named her profile "Huge Melons".
It's funny)))

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Re: Hi, my name is Natasha :)
« Reply #56 on: March 10, 2015, 05:55:30 PM »
It's funny)))

It is to us but we don't know if it was funny to her.  So you see "Wild Energy" is not so bad.  The reaction you get may help you to know the character of the man responding.

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Re: Hi, my name is Natasha :)
« Reply #57 on: March 10, 2015, 06:52:33 PM »
Привет! Я с удовольствием отвечу на все интересующие Вас вопросы.
К сожалению я не все поняла, что вы писали. Но все же я попробую дать вам ответы. И я решила дать ответ на русском  языке дабы избежать путаницу( я выше писала, что я не владею Английским языком. Если я попытаюсь все это перевести- возникнет еще большая путаница).

Don't be concerned about translation, Natali. Fortunately, you're narratives are well written and easy to translate. I will try and do the same for you and not use slang, idioms or contractions and that should assist you with translation as well.

Thank you for answering my questions. I'd like to tell you I don't think you've done anything wrong by joining this agency. My questions were asked to determine the process you used to sign up and if you yourself understood the process. It's clear by the Attestation below you did understand and that alleviates some of my initial unease.

You will get advice from other members here who are experienced and successfully married. This is good and appropriate. Some members will tell you what you should be doing. That's O.K. too, it's the nature of advice.  I'll  comment on what's been done so far and try assist you in that way.

So, moving on...

If I'm interpreting what you've posted correctly you went personally (in person yourself) to either an HRB office or an affiliate (an agency in partnership with HRB) agency's office, is that right (please correct me if I'm wrong)?
Да. Моя знакомая пользовалась агентством. Благодаря нему она нашла себе мужа и уехала в Америку. Она посоветовала мне это агентство . Она дала мне адрес и я пошла туда .Когда я пришла в агентство у меня потребовали паспорт(я должна была доказать, что я совершеннолетняя и что я не состою в браке) . Затем они отсканировали  мой паспорт для сайта. Потом они дали мне договор, который я должна была подписать и прочитать на камеру( договор они тоже отсканировали .Видео тоже прикрепили ко всему остальному ).
* когда я читала договор, в другой руке я держала открытый паспорт.На видео должно было четко слышно,что я говорю и хорошо видно мое лицо и мой паспорт. Я должна была показать, что я реальный человек.

A recommendation from someone you trust and has been successful using this agency or method is important and a good start. Nothing you've posted regarding Zolushka.net is out of the ordinary. It shows they themselves are employing due diligence with their female clients in so far as determining age and marital status.

This is relevant because 100 girls can be honest with serious intentions and one girl dishonest. The one girl who is dishonest will be the one remembered by the male clients not the 100 who were honest. So the Attestation is not out of the ordinary in and of itself and I don't see a problem with you having signed it unless it was under duress or false pretenses neither of which you've made mention of.

- это я прочитала на камеру
- это я подписала
I have a law enforcement background but I'm not a lawyer so I can't comment to the legality of the wording or Attestation but reading through it there appears to be no duplicity in the content. I would leave any further comment to members like Boethius who do have some experience with contract law.

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Re: Hi, my name is Natasha :)
« Reply #58 on: March 10, 2015, 07:29:22 PM »

LMAO - Somehow I have this picture in my head of a beautiful model named Natasha coming to Can/US in the not-too-distant future and spewing out  "You Doucha Bag!" expletives to any and all men that cross her. Watch what you say to ESL girls - they may take you literally (or maybe that was the point?)  ;)

Natasha of course sees nothing wrong with calling someone a SHOWER PACKET, aka douche bag. :ROFL:

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Re: Hi, my name is Natasha :)
« Reply #59 on: March 10, 2015, 08:09:33 PM »
После этого они записали мои данные (возраст, параметры, профессия…У них был список вопросов, на которые я должна была ответить).Так же я принесла несколько фото на флешке для анкеты и они их забрали. После этого они  сказали, что когда данные будут обработаны и одобрены сайтом они свяжутся со мной. Все данные на сайт вводила администратор агентства. Я в этом не принимала участия.
Ваша видео-инструкция… Я не делала ничего подобного .
Через неделю мне позвонили из агентства. Они сказали, что моя анкета одобрена и доступна на сайте. Они сказали, что бы я снова пришла в агентство. Когда я пришла, они дали мне мои данные (имя пользователя и пароль, необходимые для входа на сайт).Потом они показали, как нужно пользоваться сайтом ( этот сайт частично на английском языке. Они показали, как искать мужчин, как писать письма и как общаться в чате).

This is where I run into a problem with the signing on procedure. What might have been more appropriate for the office administrator was to affix a temporary username/password for her own data base entry then had you look over the profile, approve it or make any changes then assigned your preferred username and password while you were right there in the office.

This isn't outright wrong behavior by the office administrator but it does suggest that (at least) some of the female clients are using usernames not selected by themselves. Which, depending on the username, could denote physical assets, characteristics or personality the user (female client) doesn't possess.

If there is a suggestion box or if input is welcomed. I'd recommend allowing the female clients pick their own usernames at this stage when the office administrator is present and the profile hasn't already been aggregated in the database yet.

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Я не все поняла, что тут сказано. Я просто расскажу то, что я знаю.
Я обратилась в агентство. У этого агентства есть филиалы по всей Украине. Они представляют собой офисы. В этом офисе есть администратор и переводчик. Так же в этом офисе есть несколько компьютеров с веб-камерой. Если девушка не может общаться дома по какой-то причине, она может делать это в агентстве . Т.е. агентство предоставляет все необходимое, для общения на сайте. Некоторые девушки не имеют компьютера дома ( по той или иной причине ). Но много девушек хотят найти мужа –иностранца. Агентство дает им такую возможность . Девушка всегда может прийти в офис и воспользоваться компьютером ( но предварительно нужно позвонить и записаться на определенное время. Что бы компьютер был свободный и в офисе был администратор и переводчик, если потребуется помощь).

Nothing really out of the ordinary so far. As long as the girls are not getting paid by the agency to chat with men or the girls aren't booking excessive amounts of time to chat or chatting with multiple men on a routine basis it should be fine.

If you witness any of the above this would be an indicator that maybe something was not right.

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Re: Hi, my name is Natasha :)
« Reply #60 on: March 10, 2015, 08:32:53 PM »
Great analysis Brass.  You have a lot of patience to shift through all of this.  What is really interesting to me is that the agency in Ukraine is called Zolushka love yet the name of the site in the USA is "hot Russian brides" which clearly has a potential for attracting the wrong kind of attention.  And the women in Ukraine apparently are never told this.  I agree with you that there is nothing wrong with her nick-name, but depends on the man.  Looking at her photos she looks elegant, serious, intelligent, etc. but nothing with the wrong connotation mentioned by BB.  What is wrong with the nick-name is it was not chosen by her but someone else.  Hopefully over time it is a non-issue for her.

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Re: Hi, my name is Natasha :)
« Reply #61 on: March 10, 2015, 09:01:18 PM »

Somehow I have this picture in my head of a beautiful model named Natasha coming to Can/US in the not-too-distant future and spewing out  "You Doucha Bag!" expletives to any and all men that cross her.

A Ukrainian boy of around 8 years old had an uncle who had immigrated to Canada.

This uncle was coming back for a visit and his mother (the boy's grandmother) asked the grandson to teach her a greeting to say in English.

The boy said to greet him with "Fock you."

He had heard this a lot watching USA movies, etc.

So the grandmother said the words when her son arrived . . . and the boy got in a lot of trouble!
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Re: Hi, my name is Natasha :)
« Reply #62 on: March 10, 2015, 09:27:00 PM »
Лично я думаю, что этот ник не подходит для меня. У меня оно вызывает ассоциацию с девушкой легкого поведения ( я считаю себя серьезной девушкой . И так думают многие мужчины, которые долгое время общаются со мной и хорошо меня знают. Это ник вводит многих мужчин в заблуждение). Но все имена, которые на которые я хотела изменить , были уже заняты . На сайте не может быть 2 пользователя с одинаковыми именами .
Теперь по поводу этого :

Дело в том, что у меня нет такой функции .Сейчас я попробую вам объяснить – почему. Дело в том, что я вхожу на  другой сайт. Все девушки зарегистрированы и используют сайт http://www.zolushka.net/ . Т.е. для мужчин и для женщин разный вход на сайт. Это 2 разный сайта. Но они связаны  между собой . Я не знаю, как это объяснить .
Я вхожу на сайт ЗОЛУШКА. И общаюсь с мужчинами. Но эти мужчины заходят на сайт РУССКИЕ ГОРЯЧИЕ НЕВЕСТЫ и общаются со мной .
Так вот. На моем сайте (ЗОЛУШКА), с которого я  общаюсь нет возможности менять данные. Он отличается от сайта РУССКИЕ ГОРЯЧИЕ НЕВЕСТЫ.
Я прикреплю вам скриншоты моего сайта.( это все доступные страницы на сайте. Тут ничего нельзя редактировать  кроме презентационного письма).

I understand what you are saying. Unfortunately, this is the crux of the problem, the inability to change your username without a system administrator.

My only suggestion at this point is (if you already haven't done so) to call the office during working hours when office staff are present, ask for the office administrator, explain your concern and dislike of your assigned username just as you've written it here and ask about the possibility of having it changed to something you feel is more suitable.

You can always alter the spelling/wording on a username you like and is already assigned. For instance:

Flower Blossom = Flowery Blossom, Flower Blossom1, Blossoming Flower, etc.

Or a synonym Flower = Floret, Floweret, etc.

In the meantime, as to your other concern that men might be led astray as to your true serious intentions. I don't think it's an issue. Keep in mind these men are looking among dozens maybe hundreds of profiles. Unless a profile reads "I'll do anything just get me out of Ukraine" or "If you've got the money, honey, I'll be your trophy wife" it probably won't cause a man who also has serious intentions to pause or misinterpret who you are after reading your profile details and if someone did show enough interest to ask you about it you can always explain it's origin then.

*презентационное письмо, это первое письмо, которое я могу послать мужчине. В нем обычно пишется краткая информация о девушке. Это заранее заготовленное письмо. Его отправляют нажатием одной кнопки возле фото мужчины.

Надеюсь, что я ответила на все интересующие вас вопросы

The presentation letter is also not unusual. It let's a man know he's caught your eye and are interested. If you start receiving correspondence from men who are writing in response to a letter you didn't send then the agency or someone within the agency is using your username/account and this can cause you problems.

I hope you are as successful in finding your man as your friend has been, Natali. I wish you the very best in your endeavor.

Brass
« Last Edit: March 11, 2015, 08:05:27 AM by AnonMod »
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Re: Hi, my name is Natasha :)
« Reply #63 on: March 10, 2015, 09:58:08 PM »
Great analysis Brass.  You have a lot of patience to shift through all of this.  What is really interesting to me is that the agency in Ukraine is called Zolushka love yet the name of the site in the USA is "hot Russian brides" which clearly has a potential for attracting the wrong kind of attention.  And the women in Ukraine apparently are never told this.  I agree with you that there is nothing wrong with her nick-name, but depends on the man.  Looking at her photos she looks elegant, serious, intelligent, etc. but nothing with the wrong connotation mentioned by BB.  What is wrong with the nick-name is it was not chosen by her but someone else.  Hopefully over time it is a non-issue for her.

Thanks, AC. (My bolded) Ah, but they are told. Read the edit: Sorry, that should read Website Participation Attestation, Para 1, Line 9.

She is an intelligent, attractive young women. I hope all her dreams come true.

Brass
« Last Edit: March 10, 2015, 10:04:20 PM by Brasscasing »
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Re: Hi, my name is Natasha :)
« Reply #64 on: March 11, 2015, 12:57:24 AM »
Natalie-welcome.
A couple of points--you may or may not be aware of. Part of the Hot Russian Brides group via Zolushka is also Russian Love Match,Dream Marriage,Jump4 Love  & more etc A girls profile can appear on all or some of their sites-- HRB & RLM are the same people on both sites.
The agency may also place a girl on AnastasiaDate  as well--although AD prefers girls to be exclusive to them.
There are numerous agencies in Odessa -- and depending on which one ,girls can be treated reasonably to shocking!!

I have to comment on  something from Natalie's post-- it was mentioned about girls not having computers and internet access at home-- and the agency will make arrangements for them to access website. Often--it is a very specific use of that computer and internet and confined to agency website. Fact & not fiction !!
I mention this specifically as all too often the forums advise guys that EVERYONE has internet access virtually at anytime -- and any girl who says otherwise is dubious. While the situation today is improved  for most--it is absolutely not a conclusive reason to decide a girl is dishonest.
I had to mention it here--there are a few people reading thread who know a little history!! When I first came to forums-- I made comment similar to the paragraphs above-- my comment was seized upon by 2 people who said I was a liar--based on the incorrect allegation that I had never been in Ukraine to know what I was talking about!1  One of those people has NEVER been there and the other was so long ago that it was irrelevant. Now a few others( not many--but a few) picked up on that created lie-- and ever since the 2 primary instigators  still attempt to troll me to this day.
My comment about difficult internet access in some places in Ukraine-- has since been confirmed by some well respected knowledgeable members.
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Слава Украине! Слава героям слава!Слава Україні! Слава героям!
 translated as: Glory to Ukraine! Glory to the heroes!!!  is a Ukrainian greeting slogan being used now all over Ukraine to signify support for a free independent Ukraine

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Re: Hi, my name is Natasha :)
« Reply #65 on: March 11, 2015, 05:36:35 AM »
It amazes me how JayH can make an introduction thread about him.  Insecurity at it's best.

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Re: Hi, my name is Natasha :)
« Reply #66 on: March 11, 2015, 05:58:36 AM »
It amazes me how JayH can make an introduction thread about him.  Insecurity at it's best.

LFU, you frequently analyze RWD members and characterize them using psychological labels as if this is your profession.   

What is your psychology label for someone who criticizes people much more than compliments them, even criticizing those who had not interacted with him?  The term that comes to my untrained mind is sourpuss.  What is your psychological term for such a person? 


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Re: Hi, my name is Natasha :)
« Reply #67 on: March 11, 2015, 06:01:38 AM »
LFU, you frequently analyze RWD members and characterize them using psychological labels as if this is your profession.   




Nothing different to what you do, Gator.  You do realize you point out things about fellow members, right?

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What is your psychology label for someone who criticizes people much more than compliments them, even criticizing those who had not interacted with him?  The term that comes to my untrained mind is sourpuss.  What is your psychological term for such a person?


Yet, you have penned your thoughts about people whom you have never met.  So, how do you define yourself, then?  Or do you blame that on the booze as well?


I would have thought you would be on the phone already telling Natali about the bad people here.  ;)  Sourpuss, indeed.


You can start a thread in the Anything goes if you would like to continue your session.  The introduction thread isn't the place for this.
« Last Edit: March 11, 2015, 06:19:01 AM by LiveFromUkraine »

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Re: Hi, my name is Natasha :)
« Reply #68 on: March 11, 2015, 06:42:46 AM »

Nothing different to what you do, Gator.  You do realize you point out things about fellow members, right?

I knew what your reaction would be, so I had thought about this.  Yes, I have been very critical of two members over the past six months.   And before that, one for sure.  Small in number compared to your parade.  And I did not use psychiatric terms to label them, the closest being the terms "idealistic" and "liar."

And I have interacted with them, not just on the board but one in an actual meeting.   


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Yet, you have penned your thoughts about people whom you have never met.  So, how do you define yourself, then?  Or do you blame that on the booze as well?

Booze?!  I admit to being observed on occasion, perhaps 1-2 times per  month.  And rarely would I turn to RWD to ride the mood.


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I would have thought you would be on the phone already telling Natali about the bad people here.  ;)   

You have misconstrued what occurred, but that happens when you embrace a snake.


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  Sourpuss, indeed. 

You mentioned booze.  Maybe the occasional beer would kill that bug up your ass. 


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  The introduction thread isn't the place for this. 

Agree, So why jump on Jay?


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Re: Hi, my name is Natasha :)
« Reply #69 on: March 11, 2015, 06:56:26 AM »

 

You mentioned booze.  Maybe the occasional beer would kill that bug up your ass. 




Are you going to pretend that quote is yours and not Jack Nicholson's in the movie "Terms of Endearment"?



I just happened to be browsing about the internet....

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Re: Hi, my name is Natasha :)
« Reply #70 on: March 11, 2015, 06:56:26 AM »
I knew what your reaction would be, so I had thought about this.  Yes, I have been very critical of two members over the past six months.   And before that, one for sure.  Small in number compared to your parade.  And I did not use psychiatric terms to label them, the closest being the terms "idealistic" and "liar."



Yes, no doubt your narcissism had you believe you were two steps ahead of me.

No, you may not use those types of terms, but you do make it a point to describe what people are feeling or their motivation.  For example, on several occasions I have seen you make comments about Bo and her motivations as a mod.  Obviously the same type of thing only using different jargon.

Just recently you made a "crazy" comment about other members you don't agree with. 

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And I have interacted with them, not just on the board but one in an actual meeting.   




Doubtful you interacted, in real life, with everyone you have made comments about.

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Booze?!  I admit to being observed on occasion, perhaps 1-2 times per  month.  And rarely would I turn to RWD to ride the mood.


I can only go based on what you post here and how you have used booze as an excuse to post rude comments.  I do think your true nature comes out with booze so it was good to see who you really were.

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You have misconstrued what occurred, but that happens when you embrace a snake.


I find FT's story more plausible than your side when taking in your past posts and his into consideration.  I have read Dan's other forum where FT posted frequently and was aware of the type of poster FT is. 

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You mentioned booze.  Maybe the occasional beer would kill that bug up your ass. 


Ha!  And you say you don't make comments about people you never met.  I don't need self medication to loosen up but it doesn't surprise me that is what you would think is needed.  I have seen quite a few cranky posts from you in the past month or so.  I take it the booze isn't helping with your bug.

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Agree, So why jump on Jay?


Jay jumped into this thread sprouting off old flame wars and you apparently believe that is ok.  You are not being honest here but that also doesn't surprise me.
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Re: Hi, my name is Natasha :)
« Reply #71 on: March 11, 2015, 07:41:14 AM »

Nothing different to what you do, Gator.  You do realize you point out things about fellow members, right?

That got me thinking of a Billy Joel classic....


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Re: Hi, my name is Natasha :)
« Reply #72 on: March 11, 2015, 08:05:14 AM »
That got me thinking of a Billy Joel classic....



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Re: Hi, my name is Natasha :)
« Reply #73 on: March 11, 2015, 08:07:41 AM »
Who is Billy Joel?


Some one hit wonder dude back in the 80's.  ;)

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Re: Hi, my name is Natasha :)
« Reply #74 on: March 11, 2015, 09:51:24 AM »
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