tver dating agency "" lifetimepartners.com""

[fred29]

richard ....!!

i don't say that to flatter you , or to push others in any way .....

BUT you are what i call an honest man by my standarts ........!!!

don't worry about peoples writing whatever , one thing that travelling taught me very well , is how to compare AND ESPECIALLY that to compare you have to know more than one or two things about any subject........!!! ( where is a saying  "" in the kingdom of the blinds , a one-eyed guy is a king "")

well , that said , yes despite the fact that i still don't  believe in agencies , the point you are making is really a sad news , if every things you see on the web is bound to belongs to some kind of supermarket  of the russian flesh ( the ones that have thousands +++ of girls from absolutely anywhere ) this kind of things is going to look very bad , very soon ..........

well you know i am coming from a part of the world , where it is absolute common saying "where is love , no needs for counting , if it is for love , nothing is expensive enough " but it doesn't mean that peoples marketing flesh have to grab as much as they can......

so the whole thing is only about making money ???? so it should be treated as such , the service you get is worth the money you paid or it is a ripp-off !!!

so i would like to call you friend , i to encourage you to keep YOUR way of doing things , whatever others have to say ( a crowd shouting a non-sens does not make it a truth ) 

have a nice day and a bright future

fred

[Rvrwind]

Thanks Fred...I appreciate that.
As for my part well, I'd pile my desks, chairs, computers & all related equipment in the middle of the street & burn it & walk away before I'd hook up with the likes of A-web or any of the other big 3!!! I don't like their busness practices & I won't stoop to their level, I have my standards & I won't compromise them & thats the bottom line.
I know many will continue to use them & not so many will use me. Its a fact I will have to live with. But as time passes, more & more are coming to me. I'm not in it just for guys to meet ladies. I have many other services that are unrelated & really like to focus more on them than meeting women. Meeting women to me is just a sideline at this point & I don't even really actively recruit them. I have deals with 2 other agencies in town that have plenty of women, so it is possible to travel through me & meet their ladies, for a price of course. But me I'd rather focus more on the travel & tourist end than the dating end, although I can help with advice & experience whenever it is needed or wanted.

[TomT]

Fred,

Western Ukraine has close ties with Western Europe and a lot of the girls speak French. A Frenchman such as yourself may have good luck there.

(My ancestors came from the Poitou province.)

[Marc Dayton]

By Richard

If anything bad could be said about them at all, that & the glamour pictures are all that could be said to be bad & really that is nothing.

I like this one the best even as you tried to clean it up at the end.

Richard Glamour photos. Too funny but I understand how you feel looking at the photos of the 10 girls on your site? Photos from a cell phone would look like Glamour photos.

Know that I took my cheep shot?

First Richard asking a question is one thing word smiting the question to fit your needs is another thing. How desperate you must be. I would burn my computers my office before I would sell out to A-web nothing but a cheep shot to try and make your self look like something your not.

Know I know Richard you’re going to have a filed day with this so go for it, but to try and get on a more positive note. Dealing with your wonderful words comparing LTP with BeHappy, and the question of working with A-web

For years men’s number 1 complaint with LTP was we do not offer a way for men to contact the girls on there own that we are a service that is to old fashion, and yes Richard that is 100% on me! Trying to keep LTP a full service agencies for the men that wanted something better from a service then a thank you for your money. This is all my bad! May God forgive me since you won’t?

Fred29 you have the right to say what you think, and feel.

Lifetime Partners morals will never change we will always provide an honest service to you! You may not like what you get like Fred29, but you are told the truth Like it or Not!

By the way Fred I will just take the easy way out with you. Sorry we could not help you. If you spent any money with us I would be glad to refund it as we were not a help to you. Good luck with your search.
Lifetime Partner is in the process of changing are service to offer two types of service first the biggest change you will see is in how the RW can use are service we will give them better accesses to are site so they can respond I hope faster to your e-mail and she can see a mans bio on line saving them from coming across town to see a man’s profile.

Second we will add services by a man’s need’s you can read it when the new site gets up some day? This Post is not about advertising.

We will also test the water by putting some of the RW profiles on other sites. The girl’s number 1 compliant in the LTP service is simple we want to find a husband why won’t you post are profiles to other service Some of the girls want to have a better chance at meeting men, but don’t want to use some of the other service in Tver.

A-web? Dennis has had long talks with A-web we talked about are concerns, and placing profiles on there service. A-web response was vary simple you must sign a contract that you will not write letters for the RW if you do LTP will be held responsible in a court of Law.

Like many of you I have some problems with how many of A_Web service providers take advantage of this service, but to be fair to A-Web they have 1000’s of service providers providing profiles e-mail services and many other types of services.

How can A-Web know witch service provider is good or bad keeping up with all agencies, and all the e-mails each day on a day to day basses can’t be done not even by you Richard how can they keep up with 1000’ a pond 1000,s RW, 1000’s of agencies? By the way aren’t you trying to do the same thing get your girls from other service if there so bad why are you trying to follow in there foot steps? Ops time to burn your computers.

Lifetime Partners is not Behappy to compare us Richard is just your way of trying to look good word smithing blowing smoke to fit your needs. Behappy works there way with A-web good or bad that’s not up to me to say, but up to the men that use there service.

Lifetime Partners will maintain control of how our service is run no matter who we do or do not work with. We will keep it honest and real no smoke Richard just the truth.

Richard my advice to you since you’re so good at it is stick to selling candy and flowers to men who have used my service and the other services in town since you’re so good at that.

Know you can say as you wish Richard I am done with you and with this petty crap this is why I have stayed off this board and all the others too. Good luck to all; if you need me you all know how to find me. Can’t we all just get along?

P.S. FYI Richard I have told my office 100% anybody talking to you about LTP office, even if we change the color of are phones will be fired with out even thinking about it so you my stay out of my office. I have sent some profiles to A-web to test the water.

I am so sick of Ex employees that were fired by LTP and or completers in this case both saying anything they want it is nothing but bitterness one day we are the good service and the next we are the bad service.

Richard if I had it to do all over firing you or my Ex mother in law I would not think twice about it as we can all see how your TverAngels has progressed in 2 years its so much better then the rest of the agencies.   

[Rvrwind]

Thanks for the explanation Marc.
Why you felt you had to attack me personally is beyond me when all that was put out there was a simple question. You answered it, that is all that was required, but to attack me personally & threaten me & your own employees seems a tad petty to me, but hey, whatever your best at.
For me I'm satisfied, I just wanted the truth & now I have it. Nuff said, it will be up to your future clients to decide whether or not your service will suffer, not me. It seems though by your heated response that you must harbour some guilt in your new association, otherwise why attack with such venom?
Anyway thanks for giving us the facts.

[Marc Dayton]

Wordsmithing dose it ever stop, Nice try Richard I will pass, and let The RWD members who no better take it from here.

[mike15]

Fred

I am not sure what point you are trying to make in your post.  You mentioned that Lifetime Partners had a good reputation, are you trying to change that.  There are 2 things that I take offense to:

1.   You slam LTP without ever talking to one of the owners and work out your problem with them.
2.   You show pictures of 3 girls and you do no post your own.

I am not here to defend LTP, but there are a few agencies that offer an excellent service and many that are SCAMS.  Lifetime Partners (and for that matter TVER Romance) are excellent companies offering a great service.  It is sad that you have the ability to post the wrong message and I am sure many people believe you.  So, three or four girls do no want to date you that is too bad, get over it.  Maybe the girls were being nice and telling you that you are too old when there may have been another reason. 

And by the way, Julia, the blond with the great smile, is my girlfriend.  And I am happy that LTP was honest with you and told she was not available.  They could have baited you and told to come to TVER just to meet her, you are upset because there were honest.  I am sorry my friend if the truth hurts.  The fact that her profile is still up probably has more to do with Mark living in California (they seem to move a step slower then us Yanks on the East Coast).

I think you owe LTP and the 3 girls an apology, and why don’t you post your picture to show why these girls are not interested in you.

Mike

[Rvrwind]

And by the way, Julia, the blond with the great smile, is my girlfriend.

Then why is she still on the website?

The fact that her profile is still up probably has more to do with Mark living in California (they seem to move a step slower then us Yanks on the East Coast).

Yeah, & I got ocean front property in Arizona. The internet works just as good in California as it does in Russia or anyplace else. Takes me less than ten minutes to remove a profile & pics when I'm asked to do so.
Marc himself told me one time why he doesn't remove them & I think I'll let him tell you why & see if correspondsto what he told me. I'm betting it won't. And it ain't got nothin' to do with him being in California & the office in Russia.

[calcowboy1]

Then why is she still on the website?Yeah, & I got ocean front property in Arizona. The internet works just as good in California as it does in Russia or anyplace else. Takes me less than ten minutes to remove a profile & pics when I'm asked to do so.
Marc himself told me one time why he doesn't remove them & I think I'll let him tell you why & see if correspondsto what he told me. I'm betting it won't. And it ain't got nothin' to do with him being in California & the office in Russia.

ummmmmmmmmm, Richard has some interesting questions there.  I know I would be questioning how real my relationship is (if indeed she told you that she was going to remove her profile).

As for the Fred29, I think all I can say is that you are playing out of your league.  There is no need to bash the agency, when it likely comes down to the girls have no physical attraction to you.  Maybe they were just trying to let you down nicely.

[fred29]

hi

well , may be the girls were trying to let me down nicely , yes may be ......

but  i DO feel that i never reached the girls , may be i should have stated my income ......or my houses  , none of them paid on credit , or the fact that in all those places , where is a sport car (like  porsche boxster or audi TT) waiting for me in the garage , and the simple fact that being 45  i  get retired before the end of the year .....................

yes , definitely , we don't play in the same league ...........

one month and a half not being able to strip off  a profile ????
are you sure you know what is a computer ???

so sorry , i do not feel i owe any kind of apologies ......!!!

[Michelangelo]

And by the way, Julia, the blond with the great smile, is my girlfriend.  And I am happy that LTP was honest with you and told she was not available. 

What?  Your girlfriend is still on that site?  Demand they take her off--instantly. Either she is deceiving you or the agency is.

In my case, the honest agency we were dealing with removed my girl's profile within 24 hours of the moment we asked them to take her off...

[fred29]

yes ..........exactly ......... michelangelino .....!!   

on top of others comments , i always tought california was part of a smoe kind of a develloped country ??????? 


may be i was wrong  ????!!!!   

anybody has any idea  if they know electricity yet ????

[fred29]

i forgot :

so for you mike , they are  honest if they told me "" not availlable""   ??

or is it supposed to taken in the way :

they are honest to whom read EVERYTHING on website , including  "" you can check availlabillity status  by sending an E-mail ""

and not so , to the ones whom do not read the small prints before buying ???

so that's still leave the question : on offer a month and a half after stated ""not availlable""  WHY ???

[fred29]

by the way :

2 months ago , for work  , i was in Kaboul (afghanistan)  i had to organize a bank transfer from my bank in Russia to my bank in Luxembourg  , i did it thru internet ....... no problems .....!!!

so california is less develloped than afghanistan  ?????   come on .......!!!!

[Marc Dayton]

Richard, I will give you credit for one thing you do know the key words, and how to wordsmith them to piss off pepole, and get them to think the way you want too mind control. I bet that not one of you checked last night to see if this girl was still on the site. Yes I am slow as hell getting photos off site. So hell take a rope and hang me!

Its seams that the point should be after a match can a girl be contacted by any other man who trys to write her. Well you see from Fred29 post that is not happening so by being slow to update the site is my bad, but good wordsmithing by Richard makes it something its not.


Its seams to me Richard you just like to make something out of nothing to get pepole fired up? You know whats so funny to me is wile working for behappy you were 100% O.K. with the things he was doing so getting paid something made it O.K. for you to work for him, but after you working for him you paint pictures in the mines of others by wordsmithing how bad he was. I just don't understand its O.K. to work for him wile your makeing a paycheck, but know your a saint?

Know after working for LTP its was o.K. to make a pay cheeck working for us, but know that you have your own service ? you want to wordsmith us to look like a saint.

Richard in your own words you talk about men useing LTP or BH, and TR the men don't belong to us, another Key word to Paint a picture in a mans mines by wordsmithing more mind control.

You state there not our men till we pick them up at the airport even after e-mailing from are service even after talking to us on the phone. let me ask some of the men on the board after 1.9 years of haveing a service or so called agencie is this not just bottum feeding slamming us as bad so he can try to undercut us? wile useing are services, and sites for his so called men to contack girls or find girls they like then he trys to buy these men off by saying I have 1000 of girls you can meet or is it just more wordsmithing? when the truth is any man in Tver can walk into any agencie, and meet girls one by one if he wants. Tver Romance only told Richard NO! I am telling Richard NO! I am shere BH won't let Richard do anything eather.

Richard men don't need you they can do it with out you, and will get treated like kings by us with out you! We have all felt sorry for you for years, but by your own Saint Hood thats all over no one agencie in town is going to give you a free ride because you can,t stand on your own two feet!

I say it ageen my best advice to you is stick to undercutting us on candy and flowers.

[Marc Dayton]

Fred,

I told you if you paid us since we failed you we would refund your money. There is no find print. I just don't understand you ? Did you send me the numbers of the girls that are 100% out of the program?

Lifematch2@aol.com ? did you ever tell me not Tver, but me I am the one who good or bad is the person you need to send the girls numbers too.

I am not talking about girls that just didnot meet you, but girls that are 100% out of the program.

[Marc Dayton]

Statement

Lifetime Partners has always stood behind our service. We have not a perfect record after sending 1000’s of men to Tver we have has our sheer of marriages and failures. Since the days of Ray & Clarke who founded the 1st service in Tver, and Doc. and today Dennis and myself. We stand behind are service. If any man out there feels that we have done him wrong we have refunded his money or sent him back to Tver at no Agencies fee.

We our only human, and like all of you we make are mistakes, but we also understand that we can not make all who use are service or any other service 100% happy the sad truth is we can’t fix all that is wrong in the world marriage, and dating. So when we have a man not happy with our service we pays the price of his past as well as the price for failing him. There is no man out there that used LTP that can say there a more honest service out there then LTP. We might not find a wife for all the men that use our service. Some girls might want to write you or meet you, but you get the truth in a nice way?

No matter how I loved this last 13 years of my life working for LTP I am only human one who makes mistakes just as many of you do. I am a people person not a computer person I am not a spelling king or a wordsmith the truth I just hate working on computers I am sick with frustration of not haveing these skills to be good with computers. I am old school just plain out a people person. My strength is common sense not wordsmith or computers.

LTP is making many changes that we simply would not make in the past that is 100% my bad as well Marc Dayton not the Tver office not Dennis or anyone else, but is there something wrong with trying to Run a service better suited to a man that wants something better is that so bad?

Salesmen less talk a bit about this it’s a fact that salesmen will say almost anything to get a man to buy his service or product. There are many lows a salesman can go to make a commission, and in the Marriage service we have seen more low roads then high roads? By salesman.

I stand on my own record I stand on my own two feet I stand on what the men who have worked with me personally say in the past as clients, and I stand on my own two feet with the men that I work with tomorrow let them be my judge! I stand on my own two feet as never stealing a thing from any agencies in Tver

I might fail you, but I give you who and what I am to try and help you find the right woman to be your wife. The truth in finding a wife has nothing to do with the salesman, but has to do with the way the service is run in the Russia office. No foreign man can understand what is going on behind the doors. Sort of speak the more I or anyone else puts him self above the program forcing the shoe to fit he will only crash and burn!

I have told this to 1000,s of men in the past if it’s not working for you just simply say next!!! Why try to force the shoe to fit? You will only crash and burn.

LTP, and Marc Dayton are who you say we are not what prentenders or competers want you to think. Wordsmithing is a form of mind control when you use key words to paint a picture in a mans mind your only wordsmithing bending the truth to suit his or her own needs a salesman. Some insite on this kind of salesman ship is just look to see if there are a lot of I's and me's in the statments made if it points you back to the person makeing the statment by saying how much better they are then its just a form of trying to wordsmith you a week form of mind comtrol a salesman game!!!!

[Admin]

RWD doesn't need to witness any more of the disagreements and counterarguments.

Take you disagreements elsewhere.

- Dan

[Marc Dayton]

Dan, maybe cutting this B.S. off from the start would be a good thing for the RWD, band me and others that use you and your service for personal Revenge or personal needs, I am 100% O.K. with it being kicked off site for trying to defend myslef!

[Admin]

Dan, maybe cutting this B.S. off from the start would be a good thing for the RWD, band me and others that use you and your service for personal Revenge or personal needs, I am 100% O.K. with it being kicked off site for trying to defend myslef!

Marc,

You have been welcomed since the beginning of RWD. So has Richard.

You guys have a serious disagreement. We all see it. No-one on RWD can 'fix' the problem between the two of you.

Take it somewhere else. When you resolve your disagreement, you are welcome to return and contribute as before.

- Dan

[Marc Dayton]

Dan I know you meal well, but this is the reason I was off the RWD and RWG too.

I would give my arm to help any man not to make the mistakes I have made, but when BS by any agenice or person runs part the board the board pays the price with many who try to help leaving the board. I stand on my Record and yes like many I can be an ass!!!


Stop this kind of BS were it starts, and I think many who have left all Russian Boards might come back to try and help others not to make the mistakes they made.

Dan I will wish you all the luck in the world, but I want to go back to my life not live my life on this board.

[acrzybear]

Personally I see no value in this "Hatfields & Mccoy" type of disagreement.  The bottom line is that both of you are in a service industry and if I were to visit Tver I would use the service I wanted, if I wasn't happy I would check out the competition. NO ONE has claim on me or my finances unless they are feeding me or F*&^ing me.

Both of these men have contributed meaningful items to this board, perhaps they can just agree to disagree and call it a day.

DAN
My opinion is that this dicussion should be either deleted or locked since I see no positive contribution to the subject matter of this board.

 

[Rvrwind]

DAN
My opinion is that this dicussion should be either deleted or locked since I see no positive contribution to the subject matter of this board.

Amen!!

[Michelangelo]

i forgot :

so for you mike , they are  honest if they told me "" not availlable""   ??

or is it supposed to taken in the way :

they are honest to whom read EVERYTHING on website , including  "" you can check availlabillity status  by sending an E-mail ""

and not so , to the ones whom do not read the small prints before buying ???

so that's still leave the question : on offer a month and a half after stated ""not availlable""  WHY ???

When and if a girl says she is committed to one guy, the agency should remove her instantly, not say she is "unavailable."