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Re: Parables to describe FSU countries
« Reply #50 on: April 15, 2015, 08:38:36 PM »
Apologies to Larry.  This started out as a light hearted and funny thread that turned into another political shit fest.  I take responsibility for dragging it down that direction.

I think Larry would be bummed if his thread did not get any posts.  Even controversial subjects are entertaining.   ;D

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Re: Parables to describe FSU countries
« Reply #51 on: April 15, 2015, 08:40:39 PM »

You're not the sharpest tack.  Probably why you need to make up stories in order to sound more interesting.  Funny you fail at that as well.


You seem to be grasping at straws here.  No one is taking their religious rights away.  They don't need to open a business.  If they do, they need to follow the laws.   For some reason you think you can open up a business and only serve white males who lie about being in the service and make up stories about traveling to Ukraine.

Nice try dull boy.  The US Constitution take precedence over any attempt by boorish hateful PC Marxists like you to replace it with authoritarian hate laws against religious liberty. 

When are you joining ISIS?  Send us a postcard.

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Re: Parables to describe FSU countries
« Reply #52 on: April 15, 2015, 08:41:41 PM »
Lol ah, big bad corporations are the problem.  Right out of the liberal handbook.   :ROFL:

Give me a break.  :rolleyes:




You got her alright.  Those corporations are only out to do what is right and will always do the right thing without even needing to ask. 

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Re: Parables to describe FSU countries
« Reply #53 on: April 15, 2015, 08:42:16 PM »
I think Larry would be bummed if his thread did not get any posts.  Even controversial subjects are entertaining.   ;D

True. I have a deal in which my subscription to RWD is discounted based on a formula involving the number of threads I create and the number of responses on those threads. I'm not paying a dime for access to RWD.

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Re: Parables to describe FSU countries
« Reply #54 on: April 15, 2015, 08:45:21 PM »
Nice try dull boy.  The US Constitution take precedence over any attempt by boorish hateful PC Marxists like you to replace it with authoritarian hate laws against religious liberty. 

When are you joining ISIS?  Send us a postcard.


haha  Is that what you middle aged skaters call people now?   

Opening a business is part of religious liberties now.  Hilarious.  What's next, rape is freedom of speech?


Let's hear about your "military" background and your "trips" to Ukraine.   It must be story time somewhere.  When are you joining the nazi groups?
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Re: Parables to describe FSU countries
« Reply #55 on: April 15, 2015, 08:49:44 PM »
It is classic, isn't it!  Let's replace those damn corporations with governmental control; after all the gov't really has our best interests at heart!  No really!

Meet up later at McDonalds corporation.  Send text messages for the invite on Samsung phone with ATT service.  Drive there in your Nissan.

Socialism conditions people to be lazy, to believe that everything will always be provided for them without effort.  Don't bother trying to do anything or be somebody.  Daddy government will take care of you and you'll like it!

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Re: Parables to describe FSU countries
« Reply #56 on: April 15, 2015, 09:14:20 PM »
The UK is basically socialism incarnate.  It's much clearer to see but I'll give you a touché, anyway.  :)

Enough... 

You are an IDIOT.. period


The UK currently has a right of centre coalition and the 'socialists' might form the bulk of the next govt because too many idiots might vote for a right of centre party with unworkable immigration policies.

IF having a near free healthcare system means 'socialism' - you may continue to delude yourself.






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Re: Parables to describe FSU countries
« Reply #57 on: April 15, 2015, 09:17:01 PM »
Enough... 

You are an IDIOT.. period


The UK currently has a right of centre coalition and the 'socialists' might form the bulk of the next govt because too many idiots might vote for a right of centre party with unworkable immigration policies.

IF having a near free healthcare system means 'socialism' - you may continue to delude yourself.

Well, at least we know what part of the political spectrum you belong to now...

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Re: Parables to describe FSU countries
« Reply #58 on: April 15, 2015, 09:24:20 PM »
Enough... 

You are an IDIOT.. period


The UK currently has a right of centre coalition and the 'socialists' might form the bulk of the next govt because too many idiots might vote for a right of centre party with unworkable immigration policies.

IF having a near free healthcare system means 'socialism' - you may continue to delude yourself.

Lol hit a nerve I see.  :D

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Re: Parables to describe FSU countries
« Reply #59 on: April 15, 2015, 09:26:19 PM »
Those corporations are only out to do what is right and will always do the right thing without even needing to ask.

Hey dull boy, you're actually right about something.  If a major corporation builds a bad product or gives bad service, they could be headed for bankruptcy, but at the very least their shares will go way down and the shareholders will demand new leadership.

Compare and contrast that to your Communist inspired version of authoritarian government.  No matter how hard haters like you try to discriminate against religious liberties, the rest of us will donate money to their cause and find other ways to keep them in business.

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Re: Parables to describe FSU countries
« Reply #60 on: April 15, 2015, 09:33:50 PM »
Hey dull boy, you're actually right about something.  If a major corporation builds a bad product or gives bad service, they could be headed for bankruptcy, but at the very least their shares will go way down and the shareholders will demand new leadership.

Compare and contrast that to your Communist inspired version of authoritarian government.  No matter how hard haters like you try to discriminate against religious liberties, the rest of us will donate money to their cause and find other ways to keep them in business.


Sure, that is exactly what happened in 2008.  I think you fell off your skateboard too many times.  Do try and wear some proper headgear to protect whatever is left up there.

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Re: Parables to describe FSU countries
« Reply #61 on: April 15, 2015, 09:34:52 PM »
Well, at least we know what part of the political spectrum you belong to now...

I suggest you tell us - as you will probably only confirm my assertion..

 
Lol hit a nerve I see.  :D

??

The only thing you 'hit' was my funny bone.. I have offered you the floor, sir .. 'entertain' us with the basis for your hilarious viewpoints
 
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Re: Parables to describe FSU countries
« Reply #62 on: April 15, 2015, 09:42:26 PM »
Nah, that's been hashed out in this thread.  Feel free to read.

ETA: Removed unnecessary comment.
« Last Edit: April 15, 2015, 09:59:40 PM by Anathema »

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Re: Parables to describe FSU countries
« Reply #63 on: April 15, 2015, 10:04:29 PM »
Nah, that's been hashed out in this thread.  Feel free to read.

''Feel free to continue being butt hurt though.''



 :D

Is this the 'tactic' you employ to 'leave the field' having realised you posted stupid  - and have no intelligent riposte ?..

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Re: Parables to describe FSU countries
« Reply #64 on: April 15, 2015, 10:05:29 PM »
Sure

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Re: Parables to describe FSU countries
« Reply #65 on: April 15, 2015, 10:08:29 PM »
The nearest we'll see to 'YES, I am clueless about UK politics ', I expect ....
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Re: Parables to describe FSU countries
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Re: Parables to describe FSU countries
« Reply #67 on: April 16, 2015, 06:48:09 AM »
The US doesn't have colonies.   Nor does it have a strong union, or even left, culture.  What Americans consider "left" politically is right wing, or, at best, centrist, in most of the rest of the Western world.


Oh dear, I hate to disagree with you but the US has at least one colony; Puerto Rico.


Here is a short definition:



col·o·ny
ˈkälənē/Submit
noun
1.
a country or area under the full or partial political control of another country, typically a distant one, and occupied by settlers from that country.
synonyms:   settlement, dependency, protectorate, satellite, territory, outpost, province


[Look at the PR constitution for the classic example.]


a group of people living in colony, consisting of the original settlers and their descendants and successors.
chiefly British term for Thirteen Colonies.
plural noun: the colonies; plural noun: the Colonies
all the foreign countries or areas formerly under British political control.
plural noun: the colonies


I better leave the British example out.


2.
a group of people of one nationality or ethnic group living in a foreign city or country.


"the British colony in New York the Gringos in PR"
synonyms:   community, commune; More

To argue with a man who has renounced the use and authority of reason, and whose philosophy consists in holding humanity in contempt, is like administering medicine to the dead. Thomas Paine - The American Crisis 1776-1783

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Re: Parables to describe FSU countries
« Reply #68 on: April 16, 2015, 06:56:08 AM »
You do realize (of course you don't) that there are already laws for half the things you mentioned?  You're trying to prove your vast knowledge of the USA and you're not even familiar with things like, The Pregnancy Discrimination Act?  Have you ever heard of places like California or New York City?  Have you maybe seen anything about a little deal called The Affordable Healthcare Act?

The freedom that America has enjoyed in the past is being eroded bit by bit, state by state.  The road to socialism is clear.  It's not exactly a secret; it's a huge fight everywhere here.

You're either more ignorant than you lead on or you're being purposefully obtuse.


Oh for heavens sake.


Show me where in the Act does it imply ANY form of socialism?


http://www.eeoc.gov/laws/statutes/pregnancy.cfm


All I see is that employers cannot fire or discriminate against the "little woman because she was a slot and got pregnant."
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Re: Parables to describe FSU countries
« Reply #69 on: April 16, 2015, 07:00:48 AM »
While I don't listen to talk radio at all, I find your repeated attempt to poison the well laughable.

Every time your pesky little fingers hit the keyboard the Marxist indoctrination "education" you received

from public University comes out.  I would think that a Socialist like you might pay attention to what Europe

does, in the case of fluoridated water.  Either way I would rather decide for myself what type of treatment my

water receives, rather than take the opinion of a government mouth piece.  That goes for Monsanto especially. 

While some of what they have done may be laudable and much of what you wrote is true, I prefer to have the freedom of choice to decide my food and water choices, and most of the World does as well.  I am not arguing the merit or lack of merit of Monsanto and fluoridated water, so much as the lack of choice and the willingness of the USA to impose these choices not only on our own country, but the developed World as well. 

We give "loans" to some third World countries, and then try to force our industries onto them as an addiction and alternative to the seeds they used for thousands of years.  Read about it in "Confessions of an Economic Hitman", that is if you're still capable of reading.  So far you haven't shown any evidence of that.

Who started government spying?  Sure Bush Jr. may have started it, but Obama has hardly been a voice of freedom.  Rand Paul had to do a nearly 13 hour filibuster on the Senate floor, the 2nd longest talking filibuster in history, to stop the Obama administration from committing drone strikes on American citizens, on American soil.

What Middle East government has more freedoms than the USA and our former parent the UK?  Try Turkey for one.  When the government there tried to put up the cameras which are over every square inch of the UK and soon enough the USA, enraged Turkish citizens shot them out with rifles or smashed them with other tools.


I see. Your freedom of being an ignorant fool choice.


Thanks for not answering the question and definitely looking like a fool.
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Re: Parables to describe FSU countries
« Reply #70 on: April 16, 2015, 08:21:15 AM »

Oh dear, I hate to disagree with you but the US has at least one colony; Puerto Rico.


Here is a short definition:



col·o·ny
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noun
1.
a country or area under the full or partial political control of another country, typically a distant one, and occupied by settlers from that country.
synonyms:   settlement, dependency, protectorate, satellite, territory, outpost, province


[Look at the PR constitution for the classic example.]


a group of people living in colony, consisting of the original settlers and their descendants and successors.
chiefly British term for Thirteen Colonies.
plural noun: the colonies; plural noun: the Colonies
all the foreign countries or areas formerly under British political control.
plural noun: the colonies


I better leave the British example out.


2.
a group of people of one nationality or ethnic group living in a foreign city or country.


"the British colony in New York the Gringos in PR"
synonyms:   community, commune; More

We actually agree on this.  Problem is though that if the US cut Puerto Rico loose they would likely fail, in an economic sense, rather quickly.  However if that's what the Puerto Rican people want, they should get it (Independence).  Keep in mind though that Puerto Rican's might not have an easy path to citizenship in the USA then.  So the two drawbacks would be economic and no more easy path to US citizenship.

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Re: Parables to describe FSU countries
« Reply #71 on: April 16, 2015, 08:23:15 AM »

I see. Your freedom of being an ignorant fool choice.


Thanks for not answering the question and definitely looking like a fool.

I answered both of your questions:

1.  Why do I believe fluoridation of our water is poison (you just don't like my answer).
2.  Which ME country has more freedoms in certain ways than the USA.

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Re: Parables to describe FSU countries
« Reply #72 on: April 16, 2015, 01:20:13 PM »
We actually agree on this.  Problem is though that if the US cut Puerto Rico loose they would likely fail, in an economic sense, rather quickly.  However if that's what the Puerto Rican people want, they should get it (Independence).  Keep in mind though that Puerto Rican's might not have an easy path to citizenship in the USA then.  So the two drawbacks would be economic and no more easy path to US citizenship.


Goodness gracious, where do you pick your words? From your Butt?


First, an independent island could immediately do trade with the rest of the world and would tell the US Congress to shove the Jones Act deep in their anus. Even Hawaii, with its full representation in congress are begging the US to dissolve such act as it is hurting their economy. Why the Congress won't do it? Two words: Puerto Rico. In addition, PR would set their own rules for manufacturing and development and make offers to the rest of the world of an investment opportunity. Why is that? Cheap and well-educated labor. Did I mention that the island population is highly educated (17% college educated and 94% literacy rate.)


Regarding easy path to citizenship, are you inferring that the US Congress is dumb?
Let me try to give you an example that you are familiar with. Have you heard Putler offer Russian citizenship to many Ukrainians? Why do you think he would do that if Ukrainians are killing Russian soldiers?
Huh?
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Re: Parables to describe FSU countries
« Reply #73 on: April 16, 2015, 01:21:20 PM »
I answered both of your questions:

1.  Why do I believe fluoridation of our water is poison (you just don't like my answer).
2.  Which ME country has more freedoms in certain ways than the USA.


I see, said the blindman. You want me to give you the answers.


Very clever.
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Re: Parables to describe FSU countries
« Reply #74 on: April 16, 2015, 01:53:13 PM »

I see, said the blindman. You want me to give you the answers.


The answers are up there.  If you don't like them or you are too blind to read them and comprehend them, that's on you.  We can agree to disagree. 

 

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