Going to start looking for a wife (Ukraine/russia)

[dragonkid]

DK, I saw you indicate you have a Master's degree. Judging by the way you word your thoughts, your grammar, there is no way you have Master's . She may not notice it in the beginning, but the lie will surface later. The ladies who aren't sure about the man's degrees, provided they are interested in a man, usually post a portion of the man's post at a ladies' site, and , believe me, it will be subject to the strictest, unsparing scrutiny.
Later on,  coupled with other "innocent"lies, if any, this lie will play against you. If you start this game with a Russian lady, you will get a double portion of the same in return. Think about it.

I did a few months of a masters, and plan on doing a masters in the future. But great advice, i will stay true and honest

[GatoMoon]

DK, I saw you indicate you have a Master's degree. Judging by the way you word your thoughts, your grammar, there is no way you have Master's .

Not necessarily true.  I not only graduated Mathematics degree but also in the top 4 in the class, yet my grammar isn't very good too.]

You don't need perfect English to have Masters in ENGINEERING!

[dragonkid]

Not necessarily true.  I not only graduated Mathematics degree but also in the top 4 in the class, yet my grammar isn't very good too.]

You don't need perfect English to have Masters in ENGINEERING!

[Anotherkiwi]

Not necessarily true.  I not only graduated Mathematics degree but also in the top 4 in the class, yet my grammar isn't very good too.]

I agree that your grammar isn't good but, as a deaf person, you aren't going to hear the different intonations that bring the language (including grammar) alive.  So long as you write well enough to be understood, and that the ladies you're writing to are aware of that, you'll be fine.  However, FSUW aren't going to allow the same latitude to someone that they expect to have a much better understanding of their own language.

In my own (admittedly very limited) experience of Russians and Ukrainians who speak English, only a couple were actually taught by native English speakers.  The remainder all learnt through the school and university system, which seemed (at that time, anyway) to be very book-based and rigid in its application.  That is why, if you're speaking English to people who've been taught this way, you MUST construct your sentences in such a way that the other person can understand you, BASED ON THEIR OWN WAY OF LEARNING THE LANGUAGE.  If you deviate from that to any great extent, they will find it harder to follow you, and may quickly lose interest.  That is why grammar is so important in such situations.  It seems highly ironic to me that English grammar is becoming so unimportant to its own native speakers, yet is clung to like a liferaft by people who don't know any other way to communicate in a foreign language.

[dragonkid]

Update

Poem girl got back into contact with me  a few days later and said this "Excuse me that I didn't reply.
I have a frustration. And was lied. I can't trust at all now.... I'm a little lost... Pardon.", this is after i asked if she wanted to meet up. She is hot (won't attach pics), but too much drama for me. I told her " Take some time And If you want to chat I will be glad", i will let her message me. another girl asked for my whatsapp



i find her attractive but too many questions that are too serious, i can't chat freely with her. Seems like she wants a serious relationship and is trying to filter out the shit talkers.

It feels a lot better now that i talk to a few people, rather than juggling people about. I have more understanding to what i want, rather than mixed emotions on if i am going to bang or date a girl whilst i am in country X

[BillyB]

I don't see comedy in there, just cassanova talk. Talking about what you and her kids would be like and asking her to live with you in London is talk she suspects you are passing out to other girls. She'll play along as long as she feels you have something to offer.

Never once did she ask me about what i did in life, initially she was unresponsive after a few jokes and a few months later, she wanted to meet up. I am frugal with money, so talking about money for me is very bad, i would attract a girl who would probably take me to the cleaners, or want me to spend non stop. I am pretty smart when it comes to fishing for the right women, i know what to say and not to say, to attract the right women for me.

She probably didn't ask what you do in life because you said you run a company and is self employed in your profile. Based on other conversations you have with ladies that you posted it seems you tell often remind the ladies you have a business in London.


You don't want women to use you for money and take you to the cleaners yet you seem to use your ownership of a business to lure them. You're not smart when it comes to fishing for the right ladies. Challenge yourself to win the ladies over with your personality and tell them you're a manager for a company instead of an owner.

I did a few months of a masters, and plan on doing a masters in the future. But great advice, i will stay true and honest

Your profile still says you have a masters so you're not true and honest with the ladies. You are hyping yourself up to be something you're not. You will be caught lying and it will not end well.

I am a funny guy, if a girl can't take that, best to move along.

If a woman is looking for a family oriented man, being funny is not going to be an important item on her list. If you want a family oriented woman, ask her questions that will give her the impression you're a family oriented man. My wife likes to dance, I don't but that didn't factor into her decision to marry me.

[dragonkid]

She probably didn't ask what you do in life because you said you run a company and is self employed in your profile. Based on other conversations you have with ladies that you posted it seems you tell often remind the ladies you have a business in London.

Business means anything these days, in russia a business man could be a guy with  a mobile and black car. I mentioned this girl because we talked on and off for a while, we never talked about what i did.

Remind ladies? i posted one convo, and she asked me why i could stay in here country for a long time.

You don't want women to use you for money and take you to the cleaners yet you seem to use your ownership of a business to lure them. You're not smart when it comes to fishing for the right ladies. Challenge yourself to win the ladies over with your personality and tell them you're a manager for a company instead of an owner.

Are you sure you read that carefully? SMALL, managers earn more than lots of average sized business. I challenge myself enough, next you are going to ask me to photoshop my pictures to make me look indian.


Attack on spouse and later posts removed. It is not allowed to attack the wife of a poster.

[dragonkid]

Really happy, since i decided that i would be serious about finding a wife thing i stopped asking women that i have little interest in to meet up with me, i have asked the poem girl and this girl. I got a little grief from this girl, but i am managed to get out of the situation. l am still thinking about the poem girl, i am going to retry it, i just have a good feeling about her, maybe because i want something i can't have. The plan is to hit the gym, lose a couple of pounds, and look a bit sharper, maybe make my goal is to be at my peak physically and emotionally this year.

I still think about my ex now and then, but this has been the easiest break up for me, maybe because i had closure, and understand that i fucked it up myself.I am happy with myself for not beating myself up for it, and just accepting my mistakes and moving on.

[jone]

St Petersburg is a great city.  But it is difficult for a woman to justify going to meet a man that she has only talked to online.  It is much easier to go to her city and find out who she is - that is if you really want to make something work with a woman

[dragonkid]

St Petersburg is a great city.  But it is difficult for a woman to justify going to meet a man that she has only talked to online.  It is much easier to go to her city and find out who she is - that is if you really want to make something work with a woman

I like to make them travel to see me, shows me their commitment, and makes them put in the effort, they are reluctant to act flaky. I never had problems with making people come, people are fine with it, but some have work schedules, which is why i suggest for them to come for 2 days and if we hit it off i will go back with them. I tell them that i will get lost going to their city, so it would be best for them to show me how to get there. Now that i a focusing on a handful of girls rather than the old me which was many, i can persuade them much more easily with giving them more of my attention. Before i told some girls i would talk to them closer to when i come, and we never spoke for 3 weeks, and they ended up messaging me when i arrived wondering if they should still come. i think some people don't know how easy it is to convince someone to travel to see you.

[dragonkid]

update

spoke to one girl from ukraine, we added each other a while ago but she was busy, got back into contact with me today. I crossed checked her images, some are on some social media sites, but she is a model so it was expected, some weren't. got her to send me a voice message saying hello, then my name. she wants me to come over and see her in ukraine, she looks like my type, but we only spoke a day, so i am unsure.

yesterday i went looking over my old photos, and got me thinking about my ex. got back into contact with her, she just replied to my message with "you want something?". I am going to try and chat to her, she was a big part of my life, and i don't want to cut that out like that.

[Gator]

yesterday i went looking over my old photos, and got me thinking about my ex. got back into contact with her, she just replied to my message with "you want something?". I am going to try and chat to her, she was a big part of my life, and i don't want to cut that out like that.

She is your "ex" for a reason.  The reason is most probably valid.  So, move on and find someone who is more  compatible. 

I have not followed every post, so who exactly is your ex?  I ask because:

           -   Surely she can not be a British woman - you have given up on them and are looking in the FSU for your next woman, someone younger and prettier than British women in your dating pool. 

           -  Surely she  can not be the FSUW you discussed in your initial posts at RWD.   You barely knew her, the limited time you spent together did not reveal much chemistry, and by displaying her photo here as a trophy it seems you have little respect for her.  Such is not the definition of someone who was a "big part" of your life. 

[dragonkid]

She is your "ex" for a reason.  The reason is most probably valid.  So, move on and find someone who is more  compatible. 

I have not followed every post, so who exactly is your ex?  I ask because:

           -   Surely she can not be a British woman - you have given up on them and are looking in the FSU for your next woman, someone younger and prettier than British women in your dating pool. 

           -  Surely she  can not be the FSUW you discussed in your initial posts at RWD.   You barely knew her, the limited time you spent together did not reveal much chemistry, and by displaying her photo here as a trophy it seems you have little respect for her.  Such is not the definition of someone who was a "big part" of your life.

recent one, she would have made a good wife if i wasn't stupid, i am not fully over her. I keep thinking about marriage, and how she would have been perfect for me. I care about her, but not on a deep level, just on a level that i know she is the best woman a man could wish for, loyal, was a v at 23, and beautiful. We talked a bit, she is pissed at me, but hopefully she will cool down, i am going to keep my distance.

[Noch1]

I go back to my Indian rubber ball analogy.
Only now I beginning to believe not fair to the ball.

You are all over the place, everyday bouncing around.
you are as ready for this as a 14 year old Kid.

I think the girls are going to be on the bad end of all of this.

[dragonkid]

I go back to my Indian rubber ball analogy.
Only now I beginning to believe not fair to the ball.

You are all over the place, everyday bouncing around.
you are as ready for this as a 14 year old Kid.

I think the girls are going to be on the bad end of all of this.

hahahahaha, so true, i am INTP, my emotions and thoughts are very turbulent.

[Muzh]

Not necessarily true.  I not only graduated Mathematics degree but also in the top 4 in the class, yet my grammar isn't very good too.]

You don't need perfect English to have Masters in ENGINEERING!

LMFAO


Engineers, in general have the worst penmanship I have ever dealt with.


Brutal. 

[Gator]

.... i know she is the best woman a man could wish for....

How do you know?  You do not have years and years of experiences with lots of women to know the difference.   

Now add cultural and language differences.  The best you can do with such limitations is to feel strong enough about her to commit to her.  And then meet again and again and again.  Take it is far as it can go, as long as it can last, and maybe it will be forever. 

Something compelled you to stop early and she became your ex.  That "something" is the reason this woman is not the best woman for you.   

When I was your age, and even older, I also concerned myself with the ones that got away.  And like the fish that got away,  the women were probably better in my perceptions than in reality. 

Keep looking.  Enjoy getting to know RW.  Maybe the right one will come along, one that eliminates all doubt. 

[Anotherkiwi]

Maybe the right one will come along, one that eliminates all doubt.

And maybe she won't.  I'm not holding my breath.

[BillyB]

Something compelled you to stop early and she became your ex.  That "something" is the reason this woman is not the best woman for you.   

You missed important plot points in the dragonkid saga. Dragonkid dropped the girl because she became cold to him. She became cold due to his behavior he admitted to. The 23 yo was a virgin and not into rotating a lot of men in her life. Dragonkid is into rotating women in his life but now wants to settle down but most people here doesn't believe he's mature enough to do that.

[Gator]

You missed important plot points in the dragonkid saga. Dragonkid dropped the girl because she became cold to him. She became cold due to his behavior he admitted to. The 23 yo was a virgin and not into rotating a lot of men in her life. Dragonkid is into rotating women in his life but now wants to settle down but most people here doesn't believe he's mature enough to do that.

Thanks for the clarification. 

Something about dragonkid turned her off if she became cold.  And he failed to correct it while together.  Very slim chance of turning it around now.  So he should foucus his time, energy and money on fresh women until he learns how to keep them interested. 

[Gator]

And maybe she won't.  I'm not holding my breath.

Presumably you are not in sales. You must remain optimistic and prepared, because at any moment in any day, Ms. Right may be near with an opportunity for you to tickle her fancy.  If you strike out, so what.  Go to bat again.     

[dragonkid]

Presumably you are not in sales. You must remain optimistic and prepared, because at any moment in any day, Ms. Right may be near with an opportunity for you to tickle her fancy.  If you strike out, so what.  Go to bat again.   

if it was all to do with looks then yes, but she was one of those very rare girls. Anyways i tried, but i don't think she will bite, and she doesn't see how she changed. She said if someone doesn't like the way i act, they should go and leave me alone, she doesn't want to change. Her loss, she kept talking about pride, when i was the one that told her everything, how i was at the start, and how i slowly changed, the mistakes i made. I am just going to focus on these new women, that is the problem with me, i don't give people a chance. Prior to my flight to russia, a day before to be exact, i was on the phone with my russian friend, told her i wasn't sure about the trip, didn't really feel much about any of these girls, and it felt like this was going to turn into a sex trip, after i met my gf, that changed quickly.

I will be going to russia or ukraine in july.

[dragonkid]

This is the girl that will be meeting me at st peter if i decide go, she is 19, a little young for me, but i will give it a go.

[dragonkid]

me and my gf are talking again,but we aren't really together, just talking, i will go there in july and see her again for 2 months. I am pretty happy, but i will have to see, a lot of shit happened, so i can't walk back in expecting everything to be fine.

[supraman]

 I must be getting old .
   Pasting photos of girls and women you have sent a few messages to is foolish  for lots of reasons -- imo.

  Why do you refer to the girl you met previously as your girlfriend again , whilst still trying to line up other women "if you have a girlfriend" ? As i will gladly be corrected if you have stopped all other communication with the ladies , since being in a relationship again ?