Going to start looking for a wife (Ukraine/russia)

[dragonkid]

I must be getting old .
   Pasting photos of girls and women you have sent a few messages to is foolish  for lots of reasons -- imo.

  Why do you refer to the girl you met previously as your girlfriend again , whilst still trying to line up other women "if you have a girlfriend" ? As i will gladly be corrected if you have stopped all other communication with the ladies , since being in a relationship again ?
 
   
   
       
   

Me and my gf or whatever are rocky, not sure even if i want to go back anymore, but i will visit st peterburg in july, i will tell her to meet me there, spend a week and see if it can be salvaged. If not there is two other girls i got at the moment from russia that i might meet up (girl above is third choice).

Problem first time was i gave too much to my gf at the end, and got little in return. I won't give her much till she gives me something.

[dragonkid]

I got talking to this girl again, i asked her about her religion, and it got really interesting, Her mum is Christian, dad is jewish, she and her brother are Buddhists. She was interested when i said i was coming to july, but she might have reservations because we talked prior to me meeting my gf, so she saw pics of me and my gf on whatsapp. She repeated that she is not from st Petersburg or moscow, she is from saratov, so i doubt she will come to see me, but i could persuade her if we talk a while. I might meet my gf, if it does not work , fly and see this girl, and have the others.

At the moment i got 4 girls with my gf included, i might squeeze in a one more, but what i need to do is solidify these bonds. The one with the girl coming to st peter is strong, my gf one is alright, she will come no doubt, this girl just started, and one more from russia is alright, early days but she makes an effort to talk to me.

[dragonkid]

Life lesson learnt at 24 ( 25 next week), never got back to ex's, a break up is due to underlying problems, going back just brushes those under the carpet,  unless both want to change, there is no point.



She is more cold to me than ever, she is telling me about all these guys that want her hand blah blah blah. Big waste of time and energy.

[dragonkid]

quick update
found myself a new job in a field that i love, which is great, so excuse the lack of posting and time spent on RWD. I have solidified a few relationships with the girls i posted, but nothing on a deep level, all are interested in coming to meet up provided i supply the tickets. I am going in july to russia or ukraine, not sure which. Will update later.

[dragonkid]

i am chatting to a few more girls, physically these girls are great, but i am still drawn to my ex. I feel like i want to slam dunk it this summer, find myself a good girl, but these girls like 99% of fsu girls are not my type emotionally. I just dont trust anyone, i fucked around with too many fsu women who have foreign guys already but kept them a secret, married fsu women.Maybe because i haven't given them a chance, initially i never gave my ex a chance, so it might be my fault.

[Trenchcoat]

Maybe its just me but you seem a bit random, one time your doing one thing the next another. In July the girls are likely to have moved on with some other gut, got bored of you. They are not necessarily just corresponding with you on these dating sites. Are you sure your ex-girlfriend is not just trying to make herself look in demand by stating loads of blokes are after her but really wanting you, Might be better to talk through your disagreement with her - it might not be insurmountable after all.

[Anotherkiwi]

She's an ex for a reason.  Don't EVER go back - look at Richard Burton and Elizabeth Taylor for starters! 

[dragonkid]

Maybe its just me but you seem a bit random, one time your doing one thing the next another. In July the girls are likely to have moved on with some other gut, got bored of you. They are not necessarily just corresponding with you on these dating sites. Are you sure your ex-girlfriend is not just trying to make herself look in demand by stating loads of blokes are after her but really wanting you, Might be better to talk through your disagreement with her - it might not be insurmountable after all.

Valid point, but my experience with girls between 20 to 25, is guys hardly do what they say. It will just be a few more months, some of them even stopped using the site. i have a few on the go for a reason, when the time comes i will organise my trip better, at the moment i am just talking. I never been flaked on, there is no reason for these girls to flake on me.

She wants nothing to do with me anymore we can't settle our differences, yesterday we talked and we agreed it won't work out, now i can leave that relationship alone and focus on others. I need to keep an open mind with dating new women, at the moment i don't trust anyone. I keep thinking most women in Russia/Ukraine are liars, i have ran into married women, girls with foreign guys, i even know a girl who had a bf who was selling his flat in Ukraine so he could move to Czech with her, whilst she was sending me nudes and telling me how much she wants me.

[cc3]

... at the moment i don't trust anyone. I keep thinking most women in Russia/Ukraine are liars..   

Not going to go too far with FSU women with that attitude. Maybe you're in need of an attitude adjustment.

[dragonkid]

Not going to go too far with FSU women with that attitude. Maybe you're in need of an attitude adjustment.

After you seen the stuff i have seen you would realise there is not much difference between british and eastern european women. I don't trust people, which is a good thing when dating fsu women especially.

[cc3]

My standard of comparison is American women (AW). I know nothing about British women. Compared to AW's with whom I've been personally involved, my Ukrainian wife is immeasurably superior in every respect: intellectually, morally, physically, sexually, spiritually, and, most importantly, in dedication and commitment to our relationship.

[GuppyCaptain]

Guys I think a big factor here is the age group he's dealing with. 20-25 year olds. Even if they are FSUW I'm confident that they're of a somewhat different mentality than FSUW who are 30+ year olds. This might be some of the reason Dragon's  attracting the types of women that he's attracting.

Additionally, his dating profile's content and general "feel" might also be the cause of attracting women that seem to be a little bit less serious about wanting a relationship.

[cc3]

Roger, concur.

[BillyB]

I don't trust people, which is a good thing when dating fsu women especially.

 If you use sh!t for a lure, you're going to attract flies. Figure out why you are having a hard time tracking family oriented girls.  Many girls you've communicated with have disappeared and went silent on you but maybe you are proving to be just like the other guys based off the way you talk to them. You mention many girls lying and cheating on their men but you did meet a virgin before. There are many honest and loyal women out there. Figure out how to attract and keep them before some other guy does. Most married men here do not share the same view you have about women over there. Figure out out to surround yourself with good women and you'll have the same view as us.

[dragonkid]

 If you use sh!t for a lure, you're going to attract flies. Figure out why you are having a hard time tracking family oriented girls.  Many girls you've communicated with have disappeared and went silent on you but maybe you are proving to be just like the other guys based off the way you talk to them. You mention many girls lying and cheating on their men but you did meet a virgin before. There are many honest and loyal women out there. Figure out how to attract and keep them before some other guy does. Most married men here do not share the same view you have about women over there. Figure out out to surround yourself with good women and you'll have the same view as us.

1) They are not going cold on me, i got meets already planned with the girls below
2) I am comparing all the new girls to my ex
3) Guys here think it is normal to send money to their girls i dont
4) you assume too much, i fish girls perfectly, they are not interested in what i have , just me as a person and a better life in the UK
5) i am simply just not interested anymore in fsu women for something long term, unless they can better my ex, which i doubt. All these girls put no fight against flying to see me and coming to my apartment, i lost all respect for them. It feels like fsu women are like most women, they are all sluts if you know what to say.

What i perceive a good woman differs to what a good woman is for yourself.

[BillyB]

5) i am simply just not interested anymore in fsu women for something long term, unless they can better my ex, which i doubt. All these girls put no fight against flying to see me and coming to my apartment, i lost all respect for them. It feels like fsu women are like most women, they are all sluts if you know what to say.

The mode you're in doesn't allow you to find a good woman. The things you say online to women to get them to stay with you in your apartment will scare away the good girls. You may be a master at getting sluts to sleep with you but if you want to get a quality woman like your ex, you need a different attitude and change the way you talk to women.


As of now you have devoted the majority of your time to talk to sluts and scheduled them to stay with you in your apartment when you arrive to the FSU. You have chosen women to meet that you don't respect instead of holding out longer to find and meet women that are respectable. Many here will question your desire to find a good woman. If you want to have fun, have fun but hanging around all the wrong girls will hamper your ability to find the good girls. Imagine going to church regularly and being a good boy all your life and then trying to jump into a gang culture. Are you going to fit in right away? You like to party with the bad girls but it's going to take some time before you're a good fit with the good girls for them to be attracted to you. The longer you wait to make adjustments, the longer it's going to take to accomplish your goal of finding a good woman.

[Trenchcoat]

Dragonkid, could go for an older woman say going towards 30, many in this direction are VERY family, i.e marriage, baby focused as its seen as late in the day for it by RW standards apparently. 20-25 year olds will have too many options and guys chasing them. I had one seemingly very interested for a while (just correspondence) around 25 but she drifted off after a while as no doubt she got a lot of interest from guys. I don't mind though as a girl a little older is more suitable on the relationship front I think. Even if you do get with a girl 20-25 that's attractive you could have guys hitting on her in the UK every time your back is turned. So, I would definitely consider a girls a few years older as they have a different focus I think you'll find. After all, if you like the girl what does age matter? a few years extra is nothing over the course of a lifetime. Plenty of hot women out there in their late twenties/early thirties.

[GuppyCaptain]

1) They are not going cold on me, i got meets already planned with the girls below
2) I am comparing all the new girls to my ex
3) Guys here think it is normal to send money to their girls i dont
4) you assume too much, i fish girls perfectly, they are not interested in what i have , just me as a person and a better life in the UK
5) i am simply just not interested anymore in fsu women for something long term, unless they can better my ex, which i doubt. All these girls put no fight against flying to see me and coming to my apartment, i lost all respect for them. It feels like fsu women are like most women, they are all sluts if you know what to say.

What i perceive a good woman differs to what a good woman is for yourself.

WOW!!! 

[Steamer]

All these girls put no fight against flying to see me and coming to my apartment, i lost all respect for them. It feels like fsu women are like most women, they are all sluts if you know what to say.

Being a little harsh wouldn't you say?


By contacting FSU women on various singles sites they assume that you're looking for a relationship and that you are serious about it. If not they will find out a poser soon enough.
It sounds like you're still carrying a torch for your ex and now you're blubbering in your beer, downing all the women in the world. I understand, we've all been there.


Perhaps you'd be better off just dating for a while and get your poop together then revisit the marriage scene in the future.

[dragonkid]

The longer you wait to make adjustments, the longer it's going to take to accomplish your goal of finding a good woman.

i don't have much time

Dragonkid, could go for an older woman say going towards 30, many in this direction are VERY family, i.e marriage, baby focused as its seen as late in the day for it by RW standards apparently. 20-25 year olds will have too many options and guys chasing them.

The girls i talk to want to get married and have kids, the issue is not finding a marriage focused girl, it is finding a girl that i can respect. They are eager for me to marry them, some of them asked me what will i do once i return to london.



These are girls as an example of who i am chatting to, want me to meet up, and want something long term, there are more but i can't be bothered looking through messages.

[dragonkid]

It sounds like you're still carrying a torch for your ex and now you're blubbering in your beer, downing all the women in the world. I understand, we've all been there.

A big one, i am considering going there and speak to her face to face, and proving to her i am actually serious about her. It is frustrating because i messed up at the start, and now that i am serious, she hates me for being a dick at the start with her.

[cc3]

 It feels like fsu women are like most women, they are all sluts if you know what to say.

Are you truly as misogynistic as your anti-woman utterances portray you to be? You should give up searching for a female partner and go asexual for a period of time, while you try to figure out which team you want to play for. 

[dragonkid]

Are you truly as misogynistic as your anti-woman utterances portray you to be? You should give up searching for a female partner and go asexual for a period of time, while you try to figure out which team you want to play for. 

Hence most, which is why i am attached to my ex.

[Trenchcoat]

i don't have much time


The girls i talk to want to get married and have kids, the issue is not finding a marriage focused girl, it is finding a girl that i can respect. They are eager for me to marry them, some of them asked me what will i do once i return to london.



These are girls as an example of who i am chatting to, want me to meet up, and want something long term, there are more but i can't be bothered looking through messages.

You could always try dominatrix if you want a girl to slap you down 😕lol.

Seriously though, what all these girls have in common is that they are dressed sluterly. Nice to the eye but if they dress like a slut odds on there a slut. Loads of guys will go for girls like this for that reason. Try going for girls dressed a little more conservatively, longer dresses, knee length or longer rather than up to the bum. Also avoid girls posing in their knickers, an obvious slut. After you get with a girl you can persuade them to wear something a little more racy. Elena's Models might be worth a shot, seem to have a fair number of respectable girls on there. I only came across one, maybe two girls on there in three months that might be deemed sluty. Some girls even state inthere profiles they arnt into sex tourism, lol as of course they arnt wishing to get mail from guys into that as they want a serious respectable relationship. What women wear in their pics is key though wherever you are I think.

[Muzh]

You could always try dominatrix if you want a girl to slap you down 😕lol.

Seriously though, what all these girls have in common is that they are dressed sluterly. Nice to the eye but if they dress like a slut odds on there a slut.

Okay, lesson #1 and I mean this seriously


Keep your preconceptions home when you are dealing with these babes. You should immerse yourself into some of their culture and you'll find that dressing like that has no bearing if a woman is a slut or not.

Loads of guys will go for girls like this for that reason.

That, my friend, is the answer. NOW, it is your job to understand why the behavior. 

Try going for girls dressed a little more conservatively, longer dresses, knee length or longer rather than up to the bum.

LMFAO


I didn't see any convents out there. I'm pretty sure there are a few but hidden, therefore, more difficult to find the women you suggest. 

Also avoid girls posing in their knickers, an obvious slut. After you get with a girl you can persuade them to wear something a little more racy.

Please stop, you are killing me. 

Elena's Models might be worth a shot, seem to have a fair number of respectable girls on there. I only came across one, maybe two girls on there in three months that might be deemed sluty. Some girls even state inthere profiles they arnt into sex tourism, lol as of course they arnt wishing to get mail from guys into that as they want a serious respectable relationship. What women wear in their pics is key though wherever you are I think.

Egads, you do have a lot to learn.


In all seriousness, you better arm yourself with a bit of knowledge before you screw you chances with a good woman.


Just trying to help.