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[BC]

PeeWee,

With all due respect, Your book does not exist until I see it.

I am a goose that lays golden eggs.

See the parallel?

[Son of Clyde]

BC, I have seen PeeWee's book advertised online and I have seen reviews posted on various sites. Amazon.com may have been one of them.  It may or may not have been a bestseller but I know it sold many copies and received rave reviews. This was only one of his books I know there were several others.

[Turboguy]

PeeWee,

With all due respect, Your book does not exist until I see it.

I am a goose that lays golden eggs.

See the parallel?

I have a feeling he does not care if you believe it or not. 

[BC]

BC, I have seen PeeWee's book advertised online and I have seen reviews posted on various sites. Amazon.com may have been one of them.  It may or may not have been a bestseller but I know it sold many copies and received rave reviews. This was only one of his books I know there were several others.

Great SOC.. pm me the details then.

[ConnerVT]

the reason why an intellegent, well trained, competent doctor, able ot practice medicine in US would marry a relative stranger is because her desire is not to further her career but rather to find her, as some of you sappy guys call it, "soul mate." What she happens to do as a career choice is secondary but since it is a career choice that she both knows and loves then of course she may want to pursue that option when she arrives in her new country.

Only a very small percentage of women will look for a "soul mate" outside of their own country.

Only a very small percentage of FSU trained doctors have the knowledge and skills to easily become a doctor in the US without further training.

(A very small number) X (another very small number) = (An incredibly small number)

A number that is so small, it probably doesn't deserve the bandwidth it has received here...  

[Son of Clyde]

Great SOC.. pm me the details then.

Ok, with PeeWee's permisson gladly.

[BC]

I have a feeling he does not care if you believe it or not. 

Turbo,

Then the very last thing he should have done here is mention it here.

I hope the book is more coherent than some of his posts.

Maybe it's just Friday eve..

[BC]

Ok, with PeeWee's permisson gladly.

Maybe its been secreted in the Vaticans archive.. that I would maybe understand.

[Turboguy]

I am sure it is not the first or last thing that was posted here that should not be.  I can agree with the feeling where that part of his life is separate and if he chooses to keep a wall there that is his right.  I can also understand what you are saying.   Just like the Dr thing, I don't plan on having a lot to say.

[andrewfi]

In your response to my last post you suggested that a woman might have to change her country to find a soul-mate. Excuse me please whilst I stop choking with giggles.

There is no good reason why a woman HAS to change country to find a husband. Even less if she is well enough educated, trained and skilled to be able to transfer her skills to another country. Such a woman is always going to be able to find a husband, even if she is also a tad homely in appearance.
I have known a few physicians over the years, most of them, indeed all that have been likeable, have shared a dedication to their profession that would preclude what would be, in effect, premature retirement.

There is nothing magical about middleaged American men. You do not carry Merlin's magic wand in your trousers, your farts smell as bad as those of the rest of us and socially you are as personable as the next guy. So if one is of the opinion that a woman with a genuinely succesful career and the ability to attain her goals socially, economically and professionally is going to choose a middleaged foreigner who she knows only passing well, then one is probably fooling oneself and the surprises will come later in the relationship.

Look, it gets boring repeating this over and over, but once again! If she could she would, just as if YOU could you would. That you have to travel to a foreign country to find a bride suggests there is something odd with you and that a 'succesful' professional woman needs a foreign man to enable her to progress her career, or to marry, suggests something missing on the distaff side as well. What you are likely to find is that the package you are buying is not the package you think you are buying.

Most of these women are a lot more ordinary than you guys give them credit for.

It is interesting that you still buy into the fantasies of the lonely guys and the people who would seek to prey upon them.

[Turboguy]

Well OK I don't mean just stay at home but I don't want a career climber.  And staying at home while the kids are younger than 9 is a must.  Funny i have no problem finding 30-something AW that LOVE that idea. . .

I think this has gone enough off topic that a little more is no big deal.   I answered your question really quickly because I thought I had a plane to catch.  I have more time now so I will give you a little deeper view into my two cents worth on the subject.

I have been at this longer than most.  I am sure jb could tell you in 10,000 words why without repeating himself if he chose to,  that is intended as a compliment to jb for his analytical abilities, not a dig, really!  I have probably discussed this subject 300 times over the last 10 years with various gals.  When I started this back 10+ years ago, 95% of the gals said they would rather stay at home if they did not have to work.  When I discuss this now with gals 95% say they would be bored sitting at home and would want to work even if they didn't have to.   My guess is the work ethic has changed as the days off the USSR have faded into the background.  

I saw a long discussion on the subject of raising kids not long ago.  I don't remember if it was here or someplace else I go to occasionally.  The three or four FSU women who chimed in were not too eager to sit home with Jr.   Of course the forums tend to attract the more liberal and outspoken types of FSU women who are those less likely to want to play Suzy homemaker.

You can find FSU women who will be happy to sit home until Jr doesn't need her there anymore.  I have a feeling the percentage who would consider that their dream life is smaller than what you would find with American women.   The other aspect of this is that if you are clear it is what you want, many who might prefer to work would agree to that and understand the logic of it.  In Russia a lot of times the kids are raised by the grandparents so the mother can work.  The mothers are however fiercely loyal to their kids.   If this is one of your priorities, it is just something you should discuss with the gals while you are in the process of getting to know them.  You can find it I am sure.   If you have any problems finding it there are always other hunting grounds where the gals would love that life.  Of the 7 or so gals I had expected to meet over the next few weeks, I would say 2 would be quite happy to stay home and not work and the other are hard core career gals.

Most of the FSU women I have met are great cooks.  Of course the things they know how to cook may be things you are not very well acquainted with but they have some unique and interesting foods.   A small percentage look at cooking like we would look at taking out the garbage.  When my friend from Rostov visited me 6 weeks ago, the first day I said "Lets go to the supermarket and get some groceries for you".  She stared at me with a shocked look and said "You expect me to cook"  I said no, we will eat Lunch and Dinner out but I ususally eat Breakfast at home and wanted you to have things you will enjoy.  She seemed much happier with that thought.   I have a feeling if I end up with her I may want to shop for a cooks apron and hat for myself.

[Turboguy]

That you have to travel to a foreign country to find a bride suggests there is something odd with you

Isn't that a little like going to an NAACP rally and saying bad things about blacks.  Now we know Andrewfin thinks we are all odd,  ok,  Thanks.

[PeeWee]

BC, I have seen PeeWee's book advertised online and I have seen reviews posted on various sites. Amazon.com may have been one of them.  It may or may not have been a bestseller but I know it sold many copies and received rave reviews. This was only one of his books I know there were several others.

Yep, to blow my own horn a bit. At one time my first book was ranked 999 on Amazon.com. That means of all of the over 2 million books held in their inventory that only 998 were selling better at that time. That book went on to draw the interest of 5 movie producers. Including Miramax and Neufeld, and others. It was later reprinted in Japan by the same publisher that publishes Tom Clancy in Japan. I was hot stuff for a while over there.

I have another book in publication at the moment. Each year I am invited to attend the annual season kick off party for the past JAG and the NCIS seasons. I get to party witht he cast and participate in a celebrity auction where the proceeds are donated to various military, Navy and Marine Corps charities.

Still, as I said before, I am not here to promote books, so you won't know about this stuff. Michaelangelo wrote a NY Times bestseller so we know one another as a result of our mutual interests in that regard. So now you have the full story on that and let's move on. Sorry, BC,  you are just going to have to sit on that egg of yours.

Peewee

[PeeWee]

I have a feeling he does not care if you believe it or not. 

True. What I care about is my bank account, my many fans, both in the US and Japan...and my agent who keeps finding me more money. I have two agents. One that represents me for  book deals and one that represents me for movie deals. I have the same agent as Hillary Swank and others. Ok...now are we all up to speed on this? My ego is huge...can you tell?  I've made over 1,000 posts and have not mentioned harldy anything about this. But BC egged me on...so that is the story. I'm both rich and famous all because I am one very creative SOB.

Peewee

[PeeWee]

Ok, with PeeWee's permisson gladly.

No. I swore you to secrecy, as I did Michalangelo. I am serious about it. I am not here to sell books.

Peewee

[PeeWee]

Only a very small percentage of women will look for a "soul mate" outside of their own country.

Only a very small percentage of FSU trained doctors have the knowledge and skills to easily become a doctor in the US without further training.

(A very small number) X (another very small number) = (An incredibly small number)

A number that is so small, it probably doesn't deserve the bandwidth it has received here...  

The number of FSU women that seek partners outside of their country is small when compared to the total population. If I buy into your logic are you suggesting that this forum does not deserve the bandwidth because "A number that is so small, it probalby doesn't deserve..." ? 

peewee

[PeeWee]

Turbo,

Then the very last thing he should have done here is mention it here.

I hope the book is more coherent than some of his posts.

Maybe it's just Friday eve..

It was mentioned, BC, because the discussion centered around human trafficing. I cited my research into the subject as my resource for the statistics that were being quoted at the time. No other reason to mention it other than that. No reason now for you to take that intent out of context as you now have.

If I were a foreign doctor involved in this discussion would I not mention that I had some qualification to speak to the subject at hand? Sure I would and so would you. So let's not grab something, out of context, from a past thread and then use it to make a point, BC.

Peewee

[PeeWee]

Isn't that a little like going to an NAACP rally and saying bad things about blacks.  Now we know Andrewfin thinks we are all odd,  ok,  Thanks.

By the way, how are you feeling, Turbo dude? You postponed a trip for it. Everything ok?

Is Andrew not married to an RW? Would he not include himself in his comments because of it? I agree with Andrew, anyway. Sometimes what is considered as "odd" actually attracts those of us who seek the exotic, unusual, and uncommon.

Peewee

Peewee

[Turboguy]

It seems to me, BC that if we were into a discussion about the oil production or reserves in Russia, and jb posted and said he had worked in the oil fields for decades and this was the situation.......... you would not think a thing about it.

It seems to me that if we got talking about construction in Ft Lauderdale and Jet came on and said he had worked in construction there for x years and this was the situation.......... you would not think a thing about it.

It seems to me that since we were talking about the sex slave thing that PeeWee did a good thing by modestly and in a non promotional way saying he had some expertise in that field and sharing his knowledge and research.  There seems to be enough corroboration to the fact that he was correct in his statement that continuing to go in the way you are is making yourself look bad. 

By the way, how are you feeling, Turbo dude? You postponed a trip for it. Everything OK?

Still fell like crap PeeWee.   Can't even get into the Dr till Wed.  Grrrrr.
Is Andrew not married to an RW? Would he not include himself in his comments because of it? I agree with Andrew, anyway. Sometimes what is considered as "odd" actually attracts those of us who seek the exotic, unusual, and uncommon.

Maybe he is right.  If I think about it, thinking we are all odd might explain a lot of the things that go on here.


Peewee

[PeeWee]

It seems to me, BC that if we were into a discussion about the oil production or reserves in Russia, and jb posted and said he had worked in the oil fields for decades and this was the situation.......... you would not think a thing about it.

It seems to me that if we got talking about construction in Ft Lauderdale and Jet came on and said he had worked in construction there for x years and this was the situation.......... you would not think a thing about it.

It seems to me that since we were talking about the sex slave thing that PeeWee did a good thing by modestly and in a non promotional way saying he had some expertise in that field and sharing his knowledge and research.  There seems to be enough corroboration to the fact that he was correct in his statement that continuing to go in the way you are is making yourself look bad. 

Yeah, man, unholy odd homos. I hope someone comes up with a few more handles for me. I'd like to run a nice string of them in some kind of signature line or something.

On a serious note. If you take a turn for the worse keep me posted on that. I hate to see a brother down. Especially when he was due to fly away.

peewee

[jb]

T/G

It seems to me, BC that if we were into a discussion about the oil production or reserves in Russia, and jb posted and said he had worked in the oil fields for decades and this was the situation.......... you would not think a thing about it.

It seems to me that if we got talking about construction in Ft Lauderdale and Jet came on and said he had worked in construction there for x years and this was the situation.......... you would not think a thing about it.

then further:

It seems to me that since we were talking about the sex slave thing that PeeWee did a good thing by modestly and in a non promotional way saying he had some expertise in that field and sharing his knowledge and research.

If you held Peewee to the same standards as Jet and myself for our alledged expertise, Peewee would have to have been in the sex slave trade for 'X' years to be a competent, reliable, quotable authority.  Not, as you suggest, just a simple researcher.

I point this out to you just so you don't wander too far down that slippery slope, ya know, apples must be added with other apples.  This is akin to the problems we so often see in academia where someone becomes an expert in some field by taking a few courses, studying a few books, and publishing a few papers which are not widely read by anyone other than a few more academicians, and having never really gotten their feet wet by actually doing something concrete within the field.   Now,,, if Peewee came out and said he was a "sex slave trade pimp" for the past decade, my ears would perk right up to hear the voice of a real expert.

[Bruno]

Now,,, if Peewee came out and said he was a "sex slave trade pimp" for the past decade, my ears would perk right up to hear the voice of a real expert.

 

Do you think that for be a good expert, a policeman need to be a criminal ?

Do you think that for be a good expert, a fireman need to start fire ?

Do you think that for be a good expert, a historian need to go back in time ?

 

JB, when you go to the church and listen to the cleric, do you think that he have visit God or be a angel for the last decade ? 

JB, if i good remember, your wife is astro-physician, from a very high level... so, how much time she have go in space ? 

I don't have the element/evidence for believe or not Peewee but your argument about the need to be a "sex slave trade pimp" for be expert in human trafficking is flaw... a lot of chance that so "sex slave trade pimp" will have very limited knowledge, mainly at the local level, without having knowledge of the big international picture... This explain why it is so much difficult to fight Human Trafficking... Group who take the women in home country are different of these who train the women, are different of the who import/export the women, are different of these who are pimp, are different from the user of these sex slave...

If you take a US organisation like CIA, they collect information, analyse them and it allow them to have a relative good general picture without be specialised in something.

[BC]

Clyde,

Seems the book you refer to in your post was not the one PeeWee mentioned that I was interested in.

I'll leave it at that.

Moving on....

[ConnerVT]

Only a very small percentage of women will look for a "soul mate" outside of their own country.

Only a very small percentage of FSU trained doctors have the knowledge and skills to easily become a doctor in the US without further training.

(A very small number) X (another very small number) = (An incredibly small number)

A number that is so small, it probably doesn't deserve the bandwidth it has received here...   

The number of FSU women that seek partners outside of their country is small when compared to the total population. If I buy into your logic are you suggesting that this forum does not deserve the bandwidth because "A number that is so small, it probalby doesn't deserve..." ? 

There are over 70 million women in Russia alone.  Of this, USCIS issues only a few thousand Resident Alien cards each year to Russian immigrants (both male and female, for K-1/3 and other family based reasons).  So we are speaking in the thousands of a percent for this.

I am unsure how many doctors are graduated from programs there, but we need the ones that are:
-- Female,
-- Graduate at near the top of their class,
-- Attended one of the highest Universities in the FSU (Moscow State, Kiev, etc),
-- Have chosen to also study Western medicine, and
-- Wish to find a soul mate in the West.

I can't put an exact figure on that one, but I'm confident if I could, it would be even less than a thousand of a percent (if she even exists at all).

So yes, it probably isn't worth the bandwidth we have given it.  As for RWD (and other forums), the Internet has always been a home for people with less than universally common interests to share ideas.  There are a number of documented cases of people from the West marrying people from the FSU.  How many do you know that fit the above example?

[PeeWee]

T/G
then further:

If you held Peewee to the same standards as Jet and myself for our alledged expertise, Peewee would have to have been in the sex slave trade for 'X' years to be a competent, reliable, quotable authority.  Not, as you suggest, just a simple researcher.

I point this out to you just so you don't wander too far down that slippery slope, ya know, apples must be added with other apples.  This is akin to the problems we so often see in academia where someone becomes an expert in some field by taking a few courses, studying a few books, and publishing a few papers which are not widely read by anyone other than a few more academicians, and having never really gotten their feet wet by actually doing something concrete within the field.   Now,,, if Peewee came out and said he was a "sex slave trade pimp" for the past decade, my ears would perk right up to hear the voice of a real expert.

Although, jb, the person that has some knowledge is clearly more versed in the subject than the one who has no knowledge. Hence the one with some knowledge is the reining authority until someone else comes along with even more knowledge. Anyone think that they know more about the subject on human trafficing than I do? If not then SUY. LOL!

Peewee