Explosion on St Petersburg metro

[Bounder]

Read again...I wasn't blaming Stalin Jr for the tragedy. May be I should translate into Russian? But google translate isn't that good.

I'm not sure what you meant then. By the way, you would do well to read up on Stalin and his crimes. Calling Putin Stalin Jr is way off the mark and trivializes Stalin's crimes.

While you're at it, and if you're up for it, perhaps learn something about Putin that isn't spoonfed to you by Western MSM.

[wallm]

I'm not sure what you meant then. By the way, you would do well to read up on Stalin and his crimes. Calling Putin Stalin Jr is way off the mark and trivializes Stalin's crimes.

While you're at it, and if you're up for it, perhaps learn something about Putin that isn't spoonfed to you by Western MSM.

Oh boy! I was saying Putin is a version of Stalin. Sure he hasn't killed millions, yet. But he is a vile scumbag and a thug. Perhaps you find some redeeming qualities in him but I don't. Bone up on inferential skills.

[Bounder]

Read again...I wasn't blaming Stalin Jr for the tragedy. May be I should translate into Russian? But google translate isn't that good.

Sorry, I mistakenly attributed Hammer's comment to you. That's my mistake.

I can infer. I don't think the comparison with Stalin is in any way appropriate. And again, I would encourage you to seek out less biased assessments of Putin. I'm not saying it will change your view, but the world isn't black and white and you may find that Russia's President doesn't quite match the extremes of your rhetoric.

[jone]

I've ridden that metro quite a bit.  Although not between the stations where the attack occurred.  I can imagine many on the forum have also ridden it.  It kinda gives you a shiver down your spine, visualizing images of the event happening. 

I never liked the metro cars as they were always full.  At least in Moscow you could pick your times when there wouldn't be as many people riding.  The closer you got to Nevsky, the more people there were.  Russians consider Peter as one of their top in-country tourist destinations.

I'm sure that the bombing of the metro would have the same feeling in Russia of having one of our major cities bombed.  NYC comes to mind.  Although nothing on the order of 9/11.

[Boethius]

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Where does the 'G' in Russian fit in.. IGIL ?

Gosudarstvo (state).

[msmob]

Thank you, Boethius

[JayH]

Russia's Investigative Committee has formally named the man behind Monday's deadly attack on the St. Petersburg subway system.

The Name and Face of the St. Petersburg Subway Bomber

Twenty-two-year-old Akbarzhon Dzhalilov, a Kyrgyz-born Russian citizen, killed 14 people when he detonated a homemade explosive in a subway car traveling between the city's Technologichsky Institut and Sennaya Ploshchad metro stations.

While much of the information about Dzhalilov remains unverified, sources within Russia’s police and emergency services have started piecing together more information on his background, the bomb he used, and any organizations with which he may be associated.
http://themoscowtimes.com/articles/st-petersburg-bomber-identity-confirmed-57628

[Boethius]

I'm not sure what you meant then. By the way, you would do well to read up on Stalin and his crimes. Calling Putin Stalin Jr is way off the mark and trivializes Stalin's crimes.

While you're at it, and if you're up for it, perhaps learn something about Putin that isn't spoonfed to you by Western MSM.

So what can be learned?  That he is part of a cabal of former KGB officers that orchestrated the bombings of a apartment buildings in Russia in order to gain power?   That his group has controlled the Kremlin for almost two decades?  That he cheated on his wife with a much younger woman, thereby humiliating her?


I concede the group now running Russia has rebuilt a sense of nation, and national pride, not only in Russia but, inadvertently, by their invasion, in Ukraine for Ukrainians.   They have combed the archives and attempted to take anything that worked in the Tsarist period and applied it now.  Ironic for a bunch of former commies, as they were all taught that absolutely nothing good came from the Tsarist period.

[JayH]

Right from the time the news broke many were immediately suspicious of the timing of this news.Given Putin's personal history it is not an unreasonable suspicion.( much the same as pumping up Korean "threat" or dropping a few bombs as a diversion to domestic issues)!
Martynyuk calls attention to the fact that before the tragic events in the Metro the all mass media in Russia was occupied by the unexpectedly huge protests against corruption and the speeches of long-haul truckers, and therefore it was quite convenient for the Russian authorities to change the news of the day.


Kremlin may have been behind the St. Petersburg terrorist acts

Leonid Martynyuk did his own investigation of the tragic events and noted some oddities that in his words indicate with a high degree of certainty that the Russian Special Services organized the terrorist act.

“First, from the beginning Russian mass media reported two explosions because they relied on information from the Ministry for Emergencies and the Investigative Commission. I find it difficult to imagine that such organizations could mistake one explosion for two. Subsequent information revealed that there was no second explosion and that a bag containing explosives was found (on Rebellion Square) and was disarmed. It would seem that the Investigative Commission and the Ministry for Emergencies knew beforehand that there were supposed to be two explosions but only after the fact learned that the second device malfunctioned,” concludes Leonid.

The Russian dissident also finds odd the identities of the people who disarmed the second device.

“According to the first media version the bag was discovered by a member of Zolotov’s Russian Guard (National Guard) who by a happy coincidence knew all about this type of explosive device and possessed the skill required to disarm it. This information appeared in particular on the “Zvezda” and “Moskovskiy Komsomolets” TV channels. Later the Russian Guard spread a second version according to which they send four men in response to a normal call. But these versions are mutually exclusive. The TV screens displayed a member of the Russian guard, for some reason wearing a mask, who improbably described how he himself disarmed the device in tones reminiscent of the bad actors from soap operas on the First Channel,” enumerates the expert.

http://www.kyivpost.com/article/opinion/op-ed/kseniya-kirillova-experts-say-kremlin-may-behind-st-petersburg-terrorist-acts.html?utm_content=bufferbb8de&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer