Does a RW need to speak good English, I think not.

[PeeWee]

Peewee,

Leslie is right, as usual.  It's not about Americans vs Brits here, it's about the lies, distortions, and exaggerations you fill these pages with.  Fully half of what you write doesn't hold water.  You may indeed work for an airline, but you don't travel the world as you boast, you're always right here.  I just can't remember a single time you were away from the board for an extended period.  I really doubt you've ever been to Russia or Ukraine, during those rare times when you are not running off at the mouth you ask questions that are far too basic, which reveals a lack of any in-depth first hand knowledge, you have shown us that you know very little about the Russian culture, I suspect what little you do know, you learned reading here.   Further, I don't recall seeing any pictures posted from any of the trips you claim to have made, and I don't think you have the balls to make a solo trip to Russia,,, you asked too many questions about group tours.  The experienced FSU traveler would never even remotely consider going on a romance tour.   You say you are planning a trip to Prague, I'm guessing this will be your first time over, and even this will be FSU Light.

I've seen things in your posts that make me believe you are a troll, I have thought so for a very long time, I suspect the other OMB's have seen through your BS as well.   Until I see proof positive to the contrary I'm just going to go on the assumption that nothing you post is real.  You have achieved zero credibility with this OMB. 

There is a photo of me posted on this forum that shows me standing in front of a well know fountain located at the Kremlin. This severs to prove that your assumpitions are 100% wrong. Assumtions.  That which makes an ass our of you and me and at the moment you are looking like one, jb.
Peewee

[PeeWee]

I also know quite a bit about Peewee, a goggle search of his e-mail address will point you to his website.  I also know that in his 19 month membership here he has not made a single trip.  He is a member of that 95% who write lots of letters, but don't travel.  I can also surmise that he once wrote a book, which BTW is not a best seller, (I read the best sellers, and I've never heard of Mr. Norm Harris), I also surmise he hasn't done anything since 2003.  It seems his career has gone a bit flat in the past 3 years.

He may have been to Moscow once, (I saw the picture too), but to what purpose?  His questions are those of an inexperienced newbie.

He writes about being rich, about only dating wealthy RW's who can afford to travel, etc.  Then comes right back and talks about having to put his g/f's travel tickets to Prague on his Visa Card... Huh??? If he's so rich, why does he, back in April, mention that he might be able to travel on a free ticket?  What truly rich man worries or cares about getting a free ticket if his future wife and love life depends on meeting in a foreign land?  If he's so rich, why does his son pose beside a 10+ year old Chevy?  If he's such a bigshot in JAG land, why are there no pictures with the star of the show, only bit players?

I think what we are seeing is sloppy manipulation of the facts, not the real truth.  I don't expect Peewee to post proof of anything, I've already drawn my conclusions, and I know a fraud when I see one.

You put the travel on the card so that you don't get taken for the cash if there is a fraud and the documentation is proof of the travel for the IRS. Thus far you are having a hard time finding something, jb.

Peewee

[PeeWee]

Peewee,

Leslie is right, as usual.  It's not about Americans vs Brits here, it's about the lies, distortions, and exaggerations you fill these pages with.  Fully half of what you write doesn't hold water.  You may indeed work for an airline, but you don't travel the world as you boast, you're always right here.  I just can't remember a single time you were away from the board for an extended period.  I really doubt you've ever been to Russia or Ukraine, during those rare times when you are not running off at the mouth you ask questions that are far too basic, which reveals a lack of any in-depth first hand knowledge, you have shown us that you know very little about the Russian culture, I suspect what little you do know, you learned reading here.   Further, I don't recall seeing any pictures posted from any of the trips you claim to have made, and I don't think you have the balls to make a solo trip to Russia,,, you asked too many questions about group tours.  The experienced FSU traveler would never even remotely consider going on a romance tour.   You say you are planning a trip to Prague, I'm guessing this will be your first time over, and even this will be FSU Light.

I've seen things in your posts that make me believe you are a troll, I have thought so for a very long time, I suspect the other OMB's have seen through your BS as well.   Until I see proof positive to the contrary I'm just going to go on the assumption that nothing you post is real.  You have achieved zero credibility with this OMB. 

hey, jb, ever take your laptop with you on your trips out of the country? You can be anywhere at any given time get on to the internet. I asked the questions about the group tours when I saw the movie A Foreign Affair. What I saw interested me. I am a curious person so I ask those questions. I have had luck with the one on one and I wonder how I might fair with the tour. I had not planned on posting any photos here other than the one taken in Moscow. As far as traveling to Russia, and I  have, the major reason that I did not travel as much as most is because when I dated the Aeroflot flight attendant she came her. Why not? It was free for her, saved me money, we got to know each other better than any of you would by going over there and the time we spend because each of her layovers were 7 days werre spend in my environment which is much more relevant to this process than spending the time over there is.

So far you have proven nothing, jb, and you now appear to be 100% wrong at this point.

Peewee

[Leslie]

LOL jb,

I had a very strong feeling that Peewee was pretending to be something he was not over a year ago.  I just let it go on.  All these guys eventually post themselves into a corner.  No analysis could so eloquentely surmize the base nature of his character as the posts he has made in the last few days. In his own words -

"I am going on vacation to enjoy myself, not to make myself miserable holed up in some small hotel in Bumphuck, Russia. Not so stupid when you look at it that way"

Such respect for her Rodina   

How can you expect anyone to believe that you are seriously trying to find a wife in FSU  ???

I reckon you are a wannabe sex tourist.  A very inexperienced sex tourist with an active imagination...

Nothing in your 1100+ posts on this board suggests that you have ever had a long term relationship with an FSU woman.

The game is up.  Tell your stories some place else.

[jb]

You put the travel on the card so that you don't get taken for the cash if there is a fraud and the documentation is proof of the travel for the IRS.

What's the IRS got to do with this?  The only government agency you have to prove travel with is the USBCIS.  Once again, you demonstrate a fundamental lack of knowledge.

Oh My God~!, this is too rich,  for months we have heard about Peewee Aircraft, how he travels to distant lands as he brokers airplanes for big sums.....  The big man,,, indeed.
http://www.aboutpaypal.org/what_to_do_with_paypal
It seems those airplanes are 5 inch long diecast models he sells on e-bay.  What a rip~!  You had us believing you were selling a surplus 747 IIRC.

Good grief, Peewee, don't get us to start digging into your background, everything you do online is subject to recall and exposure.

We now have the measure of you.

[PeeWee]

I also know quite a bit about Peewee, a goggle search of his e-mail address will point you to his website.  I also know that in his 19 month membership here he has not made a single trip.  He is a member of that 95% who write lots of letters, but don't travel.  I can also surmise that he once wrote a book, which BTW is not a best seller, (I read the best sellers, and I've never heard of Mr. Norm Harris), I also surmise he hasn't done anything since 2003.  It seems his career has gone a bit flat in the past 3 years.

He may have been to Moscow once, (I saw the picture too), but to what purpose?  His questions are those of an inexperienced newbie.

He writes about being rich, about only dating wealthy RW's who can afford to travel, etc.  Then comes right back and talks about having to put his g/f's travel tickets to Prague on his Visa Card... Huh??? If he's so rich, why does he, back in April, mention that he might be able to travel on a free ticket?  What truly rich man worries or cares about getting a free ticket if his future wife and love life depends on meeting in a foreign land?  If he's so rich, why does his son pose beside a 10+ year old Chevy?  If he's such a bigshot in JAG land, why are there no pictures with the star of the show, only bit players?

I think what we are seeing is sloppy manipulation of the facts, not the real truth.  I don't expect Peewee to post proof of anything, I've already drawn my conclusions, and I know a fraud when I see one.

Corrections: In 19 month membership 2 trips to Moscow. This does not mean a thing. During the rest of the time she was traveling to meet me here in the US. Any need for me to go there if she is coming here? No. Shot you down there, jb.

Book, as you know all books go through a cycle. Never do they last as a best seller. I never claimed it to be a best seller, Michaelangelo's book was a best seller. My book was ranked 999 in sales of over 2 million stocked on Amazon.com. A best seller to be sure. Shoot down number two, jb.  You are not looking good here.

You know nothing about books and publishing. Foreign translation rights and royalties and movie options, know how those work, and royalties bring money just as do residuals from movies. Shoot down number 3 for you, jb.

To buy a RW ticket on a credit card is one of the most basic protections a man can have when meeting a woman for the first time. I will explain this to you. If you pay cash for the ticket the ticket can be redeemed for cash, meaning that she can cash the ticket and then keep the money. A ticket purchased via credit card is only redeemable for credit. I am suprised that you were not aware of this, jb. what happened to the fellow who sent the cash to the Ukraine woman to meet him in Paris. He went to Paris only to learn that she did not show up. Jb, this is basic and you don't know it? Makes me wonder about your knowledge of this process. Number 4 shoot down, jb. Not looking good yet but you may hit on one yet.

Free ticket. I put more money on my Visa card in a month than most guys earn in a month. The frequent miles are huge. If you were me and  you had a choice of taking a ticket to go anywhere using miles or you pay out of pocket what would you choose? Not so dumb, jb. Let's see...peewee 5 and jb 0.

10 year old chevy. A fully restored classic IROC Z-28 Camaro. Know anything about a car that there were only 500 of them made and what it's value is, jb? That car is probably worth more than any two cars that you migh own. Little Peewee is very proud of that car so of course he is going to want his photo taken of it. He has since sold it and bought a new Scion...new Scion for a 23 year old college student. Did you have a new car when  you were attending college, jb? peewee 6 and jb 0


Picture with bit player from JAG party. JB, it is but one photo. They asked, how could I refuse? Did you notice how attractive those women were? Every year I attend that kick off party, now NCIS, we have an auction, which I participate in that raises money for military personal charitys. I meet everyone rest assured. I missed out last year but let me ask you this, jb, have you ever made any effort to raise but one dime for a needy cause? I have. Those auctions raise 20 to 30 K or more. I donate my time and my own expence to participate in that. The photos are a by product of what is truely important and that is getting money for a very good cause. Peewe 7 and jb 0.

Proof of everything is now posted, jb, and  you are now sitting with egg all over that Kenny Rogers beard of yours.

Peewee

[Son of Clyde]

I don't know if PeeWee can bury you or not. I do know that by trying to humiliate a person with a strong sense of self you will get nowhere and you will end up looking foolish. You tried to bury Photo Guy, Turboguy and me at some point. The fact is we may try to defend ourselves and lose our tempers but if you look at the big picture, some of you hard asses mean nothing to us. RWD is a diversion, not real life until you meet someone in person. I don't think I would ever want to meet some of you in person. Defamation of character does not set well with me so I think you guys should stop digging into other people's lives and just give your advice concerning RW. We will chose to listen or to ignore your sage advice. I am sick of you guys sounding off especially Leslie and jb. Do you guys have any real friends or is this board your friendship group? I am personally sick of your crap. Andrew and I are sort of friends and I think he has style. I have never known Andrew to attack, he will post his strong opinions.  Leslie and jb just go on rampages and attack the first person in sight. Please calm down. This is not the Anything Goes thread. How much is too much in the Experienced section?

[PeeWee]

LOL jb,

I had a very strong feeling that Peewee was pretending to be something he was not over a year ago.  I just let it go on.  All these guys eventually post themselves into a corner.  No analysis could so eloquentely surmize the base nature of his character as the posts he has made in the last few days. In his own words -

"I am going on vacation to enjoy myself, not to make myself miserable holed up in some small hotel in Bumphuck, Russia. Not so stupid when you look at it that way"

Such respect for her Rodina   

How can you expect anyone to believe that you are seriously trying to find a wife in FSU  ???

I reckon you are a wannabe sex tourist.  A very inexperienced sex tourist with an active imagination...

Nothing in your 1100+ posts on this board suggests that you have ever had a long term relationship with an FSU woman.

The game is up.  Tell your stories some place else.

you are going to love this, Loosley. Read on. Game on and jb is looking like the odds on favorite for goat of they year with you a close second.

Peewee

[jb]

I think most of us OMB's think exposing a troll is kinda fun.  At least we can condition the honest newbies to discount advice recieved from that quarter.

Clyde, you might be sick of me, that's your choice, but if you were an honest man you would admit that you recieved some of the best advice and the best critical review of your own misadventures from me.  Do you really want to dig up the misadventures of Barney17 here?  You are not the model of AM/RW relationships, and according to your own posts, there is still a gulf between you and your wife.

There are still lots of bets among the OMBs about whether you will make it to the 2 year mark or not.  I ain't holdin' my breath.

[PeeWee]

jb, I have a feeling PeeWee will not consider proving anything to you to be something that is high on his list of priorities.   I probably know a bit more about PeeWee than he knows I do.  I don't know enough to say everything he has said is true but I know enough to say that most is.   He has at least been to Moscow.  I have seen photos of him there.   When I need something to read the next time, I may just try his best selling book.  It looks pretty interesting.  From what I have seen the lifestyle he talks about is pretty much the lifestyle he leads.

I know you don't give me much more credibily than you give PeeWee but trust me.  He is reasonably for real.

I did take the time to blow jb out of the water. Not a problem. This has been fun but "Onward" there is much more to learn and many women to meet and we are way off topic now. I have not had such a lively Sunday in a while, be it at jb's expense, but none the less do not mind rising to the challenge.

OH...jb thought that I worked for an airline. I worked for an airline for 12 years after I left the Air Force of 6 years. Now I am what I call myself a "conglomerate" as I have 4 sources of income. Consultant for a large West Coast energy company, book royalties, small import and export business, and revenues from my portfolio of domain names. I have held the Gucci name for some time now. For the past year Gucci's reps in Italy have asked to purchase that domain name from me. The money is not big enough, yet. You would be amazed at some of the names that I own, Turbo. Sufice to say that I have it going on and the likes of jb and Loosley do not concern me.

With that said,  I do very much learn about this process from the both of them. They know their stuff when it comes to RW. They just seem to be clueless at the moment when it comes to me. But I can deal with that.

Peewee

[PeeWee]

I don't know if PeeWee can bury you or not. I do know that by trying to humiliate a person with a strong sense of self you will get nowhere and you will end up looking foolish. You tried to bury Photo Guy, Turboguy and me at some point. The fact is we may try to defend ourselves and lose our tempers but if you look at the big picture, some of you hard asses mean nothing to us. RWD is a diversion, not real life until you meet someone in person. I don't think I would ever want to meet some of you in person. Defamation of character does not set well with me so I think you guys should stop digging into other people's lives and just give your advice concerning RW. We will chose to listen or to ignore your sage advice. I am sick of you guys sounding off especially Leslie and jb. Do you guys have any real friends or is this board your friendship group? I am personally sick of your crap. Andrew and I are sort of friends and I think he has style. I have never known Andrew to attack, he will post his strong opinions.  Leslie and jb just go on rampages and attack the first person in sight. Please calm down. This is not the Anything Goes thread. How much is too much in the Experienced section?

Clyde, you are one lad who wears his heart on his sleave, as they say. I like that most about you. I have followed every word that you have posted and try to learn from them. Your value and experience is huge here. I was disappointed when you announced that you were going to stop posting for the reasons that I mentioned above.

With regard to jb and Loosley, when it comes to the likes of you, me, turbo, and others they can turn the troll ask quick as they can claim they have spotted one. Sometimes it is the pot calling the kettle black.

This has been the "Sunday Shake Up" brought to you by peewee and crew. Stay tuned for the next exciting adventure of "Monday's Morons" staring jb, Leslie, and Peewee.

Peewee

[Turboguy]

I don't even know were to start.  Clyde,  I agree with you.  I also agree with your statement that everyone should calm down.   It would be a lot better if we talked about helpful things.  Where does all this get us anyway.  As far as who would bury who.  I think there is enough self worth with everyone in the topic that no one can bury anyone and anyone who tries is just going to make themselves look bad.

OK, so jb thinks it is kind of fun to expose trolls.  I don't mean to fan the fires but some of you guys have a warped sense of fun.   Frankly some of the people who claim to be in happy marriages sure seem like miserable grumps with a bad attitude.  I can't picture someone being happy in their life and happy in their marriage and acting the way some of you guys do.  

To be honest, you guys could probably make a lot of money selling your story to the MOB businesses that specialize in South American and Oriental women.   They can go with some kind of tag line saying don't even think about Russian women.  Look what it does to you.  It turns you into a grumpy miserable SOB.  Look close at them and then look at the wonderful girls we have in our countries.  Our girls make you happy.

[Turboguy]

PS,  If Clyde does fail and I personally do not think he will, it won't be for lack of trying.  If he does succeed, I highly doubt that any of jb's posts will have contributed.  I am not saying jb does not have some good ideas and experience.  It is just too bad he can't use them constructivly.

I see an awful lot of jb's posts that are out in left field as well.  Mostly from making bad assumptions and reading things that are not there.

[jb]

T/G,

I have not yet started to have a look at you.  Don't get me started.  Let's see what I know about you,,,, you say you make landscaping equipment in Beaver Falls, Pa., i.e., the greater Pittsburg area,,,I wonder what goggle would do with that?  I might find a website that posts information that could contradict info you've posted here,,, wanna bet on it?

The point I've been trying to make is; don't lie to us once and then expect us to swallow whole all the rest of your stories.  Peewee make that mistake, now he has zero credibility, at least with me.

[BC]

PeeWee,

I must say that I also remember your 747 post and other little tidbits you've dropped here on the board.

All I can say is that you would be much better off here and out in the field just being yourself instead of puffing yourself up, putting yourself on display expecting applause.  You are much better off doing such in a proper venue.  This is not a book-signing party.

One thing to remember is that around here the 'pickled peckers' really have nothing to prove, maybe that's why newbies doing otherwise usually end up in muck.

You can defend yourself all day rebutting whatever you want but in the end it's the real 'you' that folks here and especially the women you seek are looking for.  I've watched your posts in other threads and there is not even a hint of animosity involved when you conduct yourself in a normal fashion.  If you are showing your true self here in this thread you don't stand a chance imho. 

I just took a look at your site and find your favorite quotation interesting: "He who hesitates is lunch." - Charles Darwin

This may apply to the evolutionary concept as far as dinosaurs are concerned but when it comes to RW you may indeed be the next 'lunch'.  Never forget that Darwin's theories apply across many if not hundreds of generations - You are but one, with precious little time to waste.

[PeeWee]

T/G,

I have not yet started to have a look at you.  Don't get me started.  Let's see what I know about you,,,, you say you make landscaping equipment in Beaver Falls, Pa., i.e., the greater Pittsburg area,,,I wonder what goggle would do with that?  I might find a website that posts information that could contradict info you've posted here,,, wanna bet on it?

The point I've been trying to make is; don't lie to us once and then expect us to swallow whole all the rest of your stories.  Peewee make that mistake, now he has zero credibility, at least with me.

Step by step Peewee proved  you wrong on your uncalled for attack of his credibility. You did not read it...at the moment it is you that rates a 0. Go read it, and then remove both feet from  your mouth...finally taking the time to wash the egg that has accumulated on your fuzzy face.

Peewee

[Turboguy]

Feel free to do what ever you are in the mood for jb.  I will save you the google.  www.turboturf.com is our main website.  Some of the others for my business are www.turfsprayers.com  & www.strawblowers.com and www.IceControlSprayers.com

It just seems to me that we have some people here who try to help people by answering their questions, giving them advice, sharing the things we have learned and helping them to avoid mistakes.   Then we have others who try to help by tearing them down, insulting them, calling them names and acting arrogant.  Maybe your way is the best.  Personally I think not.  I think you have a lot of knowledge and experience that could help people a lot.  I would just like to see you use it in a way that is more positive.  I would like to see you use it in a way that helps RWD and not a way that would make  a newbie afraid to open his trap.

[PeeWee]

PeeWee,

I must say that I also remember your 747 post and other little tidbits you've dropped here on the board.

All I can say is that you would be much better off here and out in the field just being yourself instead of puffing yourself up, putting yourself on display expecting applause.  You are much better off doing such in a proper venue.  This is not a book-signing party.

One thing to remember is that around here the 'pickled peckers' really have nothing to prove, maybe that's why newbies doing otherwise usually end up in muck.

You can defend yourself all day rebutting whatever you want but in the end it's the real 'you' that folks here and especially the women you seek are looking for.  I've watched your posts in other threads and there is not even a hint of animosity involved when you conduct yourself in a normal fashion.  If you are showing your true self here in this thread you don't stand a chance imho. 

I just took a look at your site and find your favorite quotation interesting: "He who hesitates is lunch." - Charles Darwin

This may apply to the evolutionary concept as far as dinosaurs are concerned but when it comes to RW you may indeed be the next 'lunch'.  Never forget that Darwin's theories apply across many if not hundreds of generations - You are but one, with precious little time to waste.

What apparently flew over your head, BC, is that the quote is a joke. Darwin never said it. When it comes to lunches and who serves them many a lad here will fall to it. So far, and after five years, I have been fortunate not to have had that experience. I have yet to meet my first scammer. I must be doing something right. Not to say that I won't but because of the forum and good advice I think my chances of that happening are slim to none. You have always seemed to be a sensative sort, BC, so i will thank you for your concern about me. But not to worry.

Peewee

[PeeWee]

Feel free to do what ever you are in the mood for jb.  I will save you the google.  www.turboturf.com is our main website.  Some of the others for my business are www.turfsprayers.com  & www.strawblowers.com and www.IceControlSprayers.com

It just seems to me that we have some people here who try to help people by answering their questions, giving them advice, sharing the things we have learned and helping them to avoid mistakes.   Then we have others who try to help by tearing them down, insulting them, calling them names and acting arrogant.  Maybe your way is the best.  Personally I think not.  I think you have a lot of knowledge and experience that could help people a lot.  I would just like to see you use it in a way that is more positive.  I would like to see you use it in a way that helps RWD and not a way that would make  a newbie afraid to open his trap.

I wonder if we were to preform a background check on jb and his ilk what we would find? How many bankruptcys, divorces...and so forth. As they say, "Those who live in glass houses...." JB's interpersonal skills have always be suspect and do leave a lot to be desired, that is a given, yet I agree with you in that his knowledge with regard to RW...based on the one that he is married to...can be used in ways that benefit all of us. I have not found a gay beard or pickle packer yet that has made me afraid to speak, I don't intimidate easily, but, yes, if they would focus on that what is important then we will continue to thrive off of the richness and wealth of information that can be gleaned from this format.

Peewee

[BC]

I would like to see you use it in a way that helps RWD and not a way that would make  a newbie afraid to open his trap.

Turbo,

A true newbie has absolutely nothing to fear.. least of all jb. I've never seen a newbie attacked.

How do I know?.. I was one and received not what I liked, but what I needed.

No, I'm not a jb 'groupie' and sometimes disagree with his thoughts, but mostly on matters that are not RW related.

[Jack]

......."I think most of us OMB's think exposing a troll is kinda fun......."

Yea, I remember in the old days when I had a little more time to read the boards it was fun to be see who was the first to bust a troll.

I really don't know anything about Pee Wee, have not read his history or his posts, just some brief comments from this thread.  Not to easy to be a troll and get by some of these OMB's  ???. However if Pee Wee has made a couple of trips to the FSU, has some experience he has commented on, then I am not sure he is going to fit into the category of "troll" that I was looking to bust some four-six years ago when new trolls were poping up every other week.

To show you how behind the times I am, what the heck is a OMB?  I am guessing 'old married bastard'    but then again maybe it's old married birdbrain, one macho bubba, only marry blondes, our married buddies, of magnificent bloodline, only marvelous babes? 

[PeeWee]

......."I think most of us OMB's think exposing a troll is kinda fun......."

Yea, I remember in the old days when I had a little more time to read the boards it was fun to be see who was the first to bust a troll.

I really don't know anything about Pee Wee, have not read his history or his posts, just some brief comments from this thread.  Not to easy to be a troll and get by some of these OMB's  ???. However if Pee Wee has made a couple of trips to the FSU, has some experience he has commented on, then I am not sure he is going to fit into the category of "troll" that I was looking to bust some four-six years ago when new trolls were poping up every other week.

To show you how behind the times I am, what the heck is a OMB?  I am guessing 'old married bastard'    but then again maybe it's old married birdbrain, one macho bubba, only marry blondes, our married buddies, of magnificent bloodline, only marvelous babes? 

True. You know how many times you have gone toe to toe with other agency owners and forum lurkers. It is the nature of the beast. When any two people with opposing viewsl, be they democrat or republican, Agnostic or Christian, then the sparks will fly and why not. Change occurs by discussion and disagreement. I welcome it.

Two trips to Moscow to meet her. She flew five times to the US to spend time with me, 7 days each. One meeting in Hong Kong for 10 days. A fair amount of experience in country and in culture. Not an expert by any means but not a neophyte either. Not a troll but certainly one who will question and put another to task. I have a different way of doing things and I  have been successful at it. Not one scammer encountered to my credit.

For some reason I threaten some of these lads and so they react. You and I had a discussion about 5 years ago when I first began this adventure. Your advice and wisdom was most beneficial to me, Jack. In fact I do believe that we exchanged either two or three emails. You were willing to help, for me the value received was what may have kept the dreaded scammer from frequenting my email inbox.

Peewee

[PeeWee]

Hey, Jack, because you are reading this I wanted to know, and you can send me a pm as it is off topic, I viewed the movie "A Foreign Affair" twice. I would like to know, first, your impression of the film, and did  you know any of the participants of the film? Also, the film has stired my interest in the tour process. I have not participated in one but based on what I viewed they seem like something that might interest me, for a number of reasons. Well, that is what I wanted to know from you. Thanks.

Peewee

[Turboguy]

Turbo,

A true newbie has absolutely nothing to fear.. least of all jb. I've never seen a newbie attacked.

How do I know?.. I was one and received not what I liked, but what I needed.

No, I'm not a jb 'groupie' and sometimes disagree with his thoughts, but mostly on matters that are not RW related.

When jb is in attack mode he doesn't care if they are new or not.  The photoguy posts are gone but if you wanted an example of it you would have found it there.

I agree BC, sometimes you chime right in with him and sometimes you don't.  I am assuming you think it is when he is right and sometimes he is.  My objection has always not been so much with the message as the way it is delivered.

Jack,  you won yourself a prize.  First guess was right.  I think they should make it shorter though and drop the first two words.  

[Turboguy]

Hey, Jack, because you are reading this I wanted to know, and you can send me a pm as it is off topic, I viewed the movie "A Foreign Affair" twice. I would like to know, first, your impression of the film
Peewee

I have been wanting to see that movie just to see what it was like.  I have heard a lot of comments.  About the only premium channel I don't get is Showtime.  I see it there a lot and when I was in the video rental store the other day I looked for it.

I have done 3 of the EC tours which are very similar to the ones AFA does.  I had a lot of fun on them.  I made some friends and have to say I enjoyed them.   Is it a good way to meet the gal of your dreams.  I think tours like AFA does are about the worst way to go as far as seriously meeting a gal.  They are magnets for scammers and serial daters.  Most of the guys I went with came back thinking they had met their women.  Myself included.  It did not happen for any of them. 

Jack takes a different approach to his tours.  You may still find a scammer but you won't be in a room filled with them.   I think I already mentioned that I am signed up to go to 4 cities on Jack's next tour.  I am also taking my son along who is 36 and has had bad luck trying to find a good American woman.  He is quite enthused about the trip.   Right now with the tour about 6 weeks off, I am very impressed with what I see in Jack's efforts.   I have seen a number of people who were raving about Jack's tours.  I have yet to see one who spoke badly about them.

To me the tour thing is fun.  You are there with a bunch of guys.  They try to help each other.  On the tours I was on we sat around over breakfast all sharing our stories.  There are some good guys and occasionally some that are not.  I have made some friends that I still have.  The only thing wrong with the big agency tour is what you really hope to do is near impossible.   I am sure I will be talking about some of my experiences on Jack's tour when I get back.  My suggestion PeeWee, if you want to do a tour, do one of Jack's.