The Struggle For Ukraine

[2tallbill]

I'm sorry to have to tell ya this, but as a guy who is EXTREMELY FIXATED on transexuals seeing his tiny
white boy genitalia in public rest rooms I wonder how long before this post gets deleted?

I don't know and care even less. I have a ten year old boy who loves to play catch, shoot a basketball,
swim, or a hundred other things. This forum isn't my life. I am not playing with you, feel free to play
with yourself. 

[krimster2]

ok...
you lost the game, so take yur ball and go home in a "huff"
that's how I always know when my posts hit the mark

you're just like my senator Ted Cruz
who says, "we shouldn't point fingers at which Republican is responsible for the flood death toll. we should all be with our families" (in Can Cun or Greece)
BTW the death toll for the entire county will be around 200!!!!!

between this and "the other board" you post more than me
so i'm SURE you have plenty of time, when no one is calling out yur BS for what it is



 

[Trenchcoat]

Trench,
well, at least you won't be sharing a bathroom with yur lodgers
but...
if they don't have separate entrances, then they will share yours
and you will lose more than just privacy

what if Tiny Tim Trench, a poor wee defenseless lad, is home without mommy or daddy
and the lodgers are there?

now do you KNOW what you're trading in exchange for yur lodgers
yur NOT ACTUALLY MAKING money
yur just selling yur privacy and security
and yur not counting this loss, against the gain
IMHO, a poor exchange
I stopped living with room mates 40 years ago

I know that's what my Father said after he and my Mother took on a lodger several decades ago. That it would have been better for them to have a separate entrance. Their lodger was find some kind of art student. My place shouldn't be too bad as with separate toilets & wash basins, TV and possibly mini fridge/microwave in rooms mean that they can essentially stay in their rooms if they do wish without going around the house a lot. I don't so much mind if they do, I won't be their all the time. As soon as finances allow I'll get a separate place for me and my girl.

[Trenchcoat]

Trench I was shocked at what you make (or don't make). I've never had problems finding women who were interested in me. I never told women how much I make, why would I lead with that? The best way to catch a gold digger is to use money as bait. 

Losing everything is tough but I have already made money before, so I can and will do it again.

I told women that it was difficult in North Dakota, that the weather is worse than in the FSU.
A good girl will hitch her wagon to you and go over the Oregon trail to make a new life. So I went looking for a good girl. Pursuing FSUW ain't for sissies. 

This is all way off topic about the Struggles in Ukraine.

It's about my and your struggles in Ukraine

I bet you never told any of the FSW you met you were sleeping in a trailer

Kind of like, 'Yerr I'm sleeping in this ice box of a trailer, wanna come and join me?'

Even most of the good girls would have run away at that and you know it. I bet you kept that part hidden duping the girl all the time you were with her, with her unawares as to your hidden secret of living in a trailer lol.

Just think, those girls were thinking they were meeting a tall handsome comfortably off US dude and all along they were being lined up for becoming the next trailer trash

They would have been stunned!

[2tallbill]

It's about my and your struggles in Ukraine

I bet you never told any of the FSW you met you were sleeping in a trailer

Kind of like, 'Yerr I'm sleeping in this ice box of a trailer, wanna come and join me?'

Yet the moment that I found a good girl, I moved into a house. You are trying to excuse your
own financial shortcomings with me. I was in a temporary situation, which I resolved and you
don't know what I said or did. You can't even recall simple facts about something you've read.

I camped outside in Alaska for an entire summer while working in construction as a Uni schoolboy.
They had a KOA campground where I could take a shower for a dime. I did spend a night with
a hot young Canadian woman in her bed and she knew for a fact I had no bed (or shower) of
my own.

[2tallbill]

It's about my and your struggles in Ukraine

No it's about Ukraine and the problems that they are having with Russia, go back and read
the first post.

[Trenchcoat]

No it's about Ukraine and the problems that they are having with Russia, go back and read
the first post.

I was joking Beel. Anyway here's something for Shadow:

http://www.euronews.com/2025/07/08/in-an-attempt-to-avoid-mobilisation-kremlin-now-allows-foreigners-to-serve-in-russian-army

Shadow will now be able to sign up in the Russian Army!

I don't think they will be many takers I doubt it will be a popular offering for foreigners. Who would want Russian citizenship I don't know

Looks like Russia might be facing a dilemma over keeping it's military manpower up in Ukraine. They are still pouring more men in but look like they are getting near the limit without seriously effecting the economy in an even worse way with man power shortages and high labour costs - even if Russia were to win they might struggle to get out of that one.

[olgac]

North Koreans and Laotians I heard

[krimster2]

BEEL said that..."I went to look at your last 75 posts"

I am so flattered for all the attention you pay me
but...

please consider a little self-reflection instead

you actually don't have a personal conflict with me
instead, you have a much deeper conflict with yur own ignorance (due to a lack of education) vrs reality
that I have pointed out to you on this board
as well others on the "other board"

and in both cases, you responded like a petulent child

[2tallbill]

I am so flattered for all the attention you pay me
but...

I am happy that makes you happy

you actually don't have a personal conflict with me

No, I have no personal conflict with you at all. I am sure if I met you in person,
we would get along swimmingly.

instead, you have a much deeper conflict with yur own ignorance (due to a lack of education) vrs reality
that I have pointed out to you on this board
as well others on the "other board"

I am not an engineer, I was a business major with a minor in Economics from Oregon State University.
You talk like someone who knows nothing about economics because of your own ignorance vs reality.

I didn't point out all of your errors written in your pigeon English post above. I could call my 10 year
old to come over to proof it for you, but Angel Eyes has him busy doing something already. 

[Trenchcoat]

Trump claims he DOESN'T KNOW WHO STOPPED THE AID TO UKRAINE LAST WEEK!!!
LOL!!!!!

zelensky's "european drone deals" have NOTHING at all to do with the USA

defensive weapons is all I hear from Trump, no HIMARS for example

Europeans were planning to supply THEIR OWN purchased Patriots to Ukraine
this way Trump can short circuit that plan, and delay thei delivery as much as he possibly can of any patriots Ukraine buys
likely delaying to AFTER the Sept breakout offensive

watch the price of $TRUMP and $MELANIA crypto now

http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/official-trump/

Looks like that planned September Russian Offensive is over before it has begun:

http://www.kyivpost.com/analysis/56009

The Ukrainians have taken out their HQ and massive Ammunition dump that has been storing Ammunition for the offensive. It's all over already lol, now just a load of undertrained and underarmed 110,000 troops with nowhere to go

[Trenchcoat]

More on the Storm Shadow here:

http://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/britain-boosting-production-of-storm-shadow-cruise-missiles/

I think once the UK, France and eventually Germany start boosting their military production and military capabilities together (though not in one army) then they could become quite a force.

Russia is likely going to struggle, they need to get more Armaments in but by paying China in it's gold reserves they are potentially on the road to ruin. China will end with all their gold reserves and Russia will end up broke, poor and with a collapsing economy.

If Ukraine can continue making hits like this and make Russia use up any wealth it has by having to re-buy expensive military hardware and ammunition all the time then I think Ukraine could see Russia off. Probably only a year or so longer that they will have to do it for.

[krimster2]

the relationship between Russians and Ukrainians reminds me of the relationship between the English and Oirish
same dynamic, same holodomor history

let "alfie Solomns" from Peaky Blinders played by Tom Hardy (a genuis actor IMHO) suss it all out fer ya mate


big always phuques small

when putin decides that the consequences of using WMDs are less than the consequence of losing the war
then Ukraine is phuqued, cuz it has no WMDs to retaliate with, and the USA will snd it's "thoughts and prayers" to the Ukrainian victims
and nothing else

China, Russia, North Korea and Iran

Ukraine is the first domino for the alliance to topple
but clearly will NOT be the last one

the enemy of my enemy, is my friend
Ukraine's SBU should make an alliance with mossad, it would "kick ass"
unfortunately there is "bad blood" between them over "what really happened" to Ukraine Airlines Flight 752 and the selling of Ukrainian cruise missiles and factory to Iran to bomb israel
so unfortunately, that ain't gonna happen

the traditional plot, is to use a "false flag" operation like the Reichstag fire to trigger a retaliatory response
so I'd expect the FSB to set off a "dirty bomb" somewhere in Russia and blame it on Ukraine, like the Ryazan apartment bombings were used as an excuse to attack Chechens

I don't see how the war can end any other way
at best, Ukraine can only hold the line for some limited period of time
after American aid was cut, Ukraine no longer has a path to take Crimea

timing is EVERYTHING
after Zapad-25 't'will be the wrong season
too cold for Novichok-Z

all things come to he who waits

PS
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/state-department-reacts-to-lavrov-s-new-ideas-on-ukraine/ar-AA1In1rn?ocid=winp1taskbar&cvid=68709366a48c410383defca19223500d&ei=1

why all the secrecy?

[Trenchcoat]

How come Putin is letting Russia's military and economy be ground down by the war in Ukraine and hasn't used WMD's already?

Doesn't make sense to hold out in using them until no other choice.

My only guess would be that he fears a permanent blockade on all trade with Russia by the West as Russia needs trade particularly on oil & gas to survive long term it seems. I'm not so sure that being on the edge will change that but instead events might overtake Putler and the Russian Government, Oligarchy, etc moves to remove him as he becomes increasingly elderly and I firm. Once many at the top see his presence as no longer desirable and a block to an exit strategy from an unsuccessful invasion I think they will have many paths open to them to get him out the way and use him as the fall guy. No doubt there are many ambitious in Government to replace him as he gets past his sell by date.

[krimster2]

"How come Putin is letting Russia's military and economy be ground down by the war in Ukraine"

for the same reason Hitler did
At the end, Hitler ranted that the German people had not fought with enough heroism and they “deserved to perish”
http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/news/world/hitler-ranted-germans-deserve-to-perishquot-wartime-diaries/article64121799.ece
this war is fundamentally about pootin's megalomania
all dick taters have this in common

Pootin believed/believes that by cutting off US Aid, which was about 60% of Ukraine's total aid, that he'd have the upper hand, especially while at the same time his allies are supplying him vast quantities of weapons

China is now Russia's primary resource buyer and not europe
the new law on non-citizens serving in the Russian military is about "volunteering"
if you're a foreigner who gets into trouble in Russia, you were always given this choice

instead of Shadow talking about prescriptions, he should talk about conscriptions
and whether or not his sons will be working in a nearby munitions factory while in high school before they become conscripts

update
Trump has NOT supplied a single thing to Ukraine
since he's been in office, the only aid that Ukraine has received from the USA was authorized by Biden
not even a slingshot was sent by Trump

now he's allowing Europe to purchase US weapons to provide to Ukraine
but still NOTHING from him

the senate is trying to pass a new russian sanctions package in August
and Trump has some kinda announcement regarding Russia to make on Monday

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/trump-says-he-will-make-an-important-statement-about-russia-on-monday-and-russia-says-the-us-is-acting-aimlessly/ar-AA1Ip8se?ocid=winp1taskbar&cvid=43b79ee667974fada19fbe763d2753ca&ei=141

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/us-senators-pushing-bipartisan-bill-on-new-russia-sanctions-brief-european-allies-and-ukraine/ar-AA1In51J?ocid=winp1taskbar&cvid=43b79ee667974fada19fbe763d2753ca&ei=206

[Trenchcoat]

Apparently Zelensky says the US has now resumed weapons shipments:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crl04200dp4o

Apparently Ukraine will get Patriot Missile systems from the US through NATO with NATO reimbursing the US in the cost of the systems through NATO members fees.

I think Ukraine will be grateful to get them at this stage.

Hopefully the US will hit Russia with new sanctions.

I see the best way of ending this war still as letting the war run out it's course and Russia running out of money, it's economy collapsing and hopefully a breakup of Russia so it is never a threat again to anyone.

This strategy is working and coming about I believe so it's just a case of staying the course for another year or so. Most of the problems in the world, particularly the Middle East and Africa have been from Russia's presence in propping up Dictators who will then ally with it. Many it inherited from Soviet days but many of them have now fallen and Russia is increasingly left with few allies in the Middle East and Africa as it's global reach shortens to being tied up in Ukraine.

I am hoping that Israel will take out the Iranian regime by weakening it through missile strikes in a resumption of missile bombarded soon. Allowing your enemy to exist and come back at you when it gets stronger over time is a bad thing. Iran apparently is trying to buy fighter jets of China to challenge the Israeli air supremacy.

[krimster2]

the "arsenal of democracy" now accepts all major european credit cards

this way, Trump can say to the media that "HE IS supplying weapons to Ukraine"
without HIM ACTUALLY supplying ANYTHING to Ukraine

after losing ALL US aid, Ukraine's existence is NOW 100% dependent on european financial support
while at the same time, europe is struggling with the economic impact of tariffs which impacts what it can provide to Ukraine

Trump keeps mentioning "DEFENSIVE WEAPONS"
which is highly reminiscent of Trump's first term and the "perfect phone call" with Zelensky
which eventually required Ukraine to store all "defensive weapons" like Javelins in locked bunkers, more than 100 miles from the "contact zone"

as the outrage over the Epstein conver-up is rapidly growing, especially within MAGA
this increases the likelihood that Trump will try to create a distraction to stop it from further growing

i'm gonna take a guess that Trump removing sanctions from banks tied to Putin
and US approval for Russia to build a Nuclear Power Reactor in Hungary
is why Pootin is now supporting a "non-enrichment" option for Iran's nuclear power

in reality, Iran doesn't need enrichment for weapons AT ALL
in can process nuclear waste from it's low enriched reactors and extract plutonium and make bombs this way
Iran doesn't need big multi-megaton bombs for Israel, there is no target that requires that
Nagasaki plutonium bombs are just the ticket, and they'd only need a small number of them to put an end to the thorn in their Islamic side

[krimster2]

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukraine-moves-toward-dual-citizenship-zelenskyy-ready-to-sign-bill/ar-AA1IurkJ?ocid=winp1taskbar&cvid=9e952e2670bd4e8ec62689bdb3dff5cd&ei=12

it looks like next week, dual citizenship will be fully legalized in Ukraine
previously, my wife would've had to renounce her American citizenship, if she regained her Ukrainian citizenship
the WAR changed all that

with that bit of news
my wife has requested that I handle the paperwork for "reestablishing her Ukrainian citizenship"

my first stop will be the Embassy of Ukraine in Washing Tundy Sea
although I may just hand it over to a Ukrainian "advocat"
I'll make that decision in a few weeks

my wife ONLY would want to return to Ukraine, even to visit, when the war is over
if this happens...
we'd like to buy property south of Uzhhorod
and be as close as possible to Hungary (I can speak a little Hungarian)

a strong possibility that in a future Russian/Ukrainian war
this area would go to Hungary and not Russia, and be known as Magyr Ruthenia
Ukrainian citizens would become Hungarian and hence EU citizens
and we could live in Amsterdam without learning Dutch

SWEET, i'd be the happiest person who over lived
every time I tried to learn Dutch, I'd get it mixed up with German
no way could we pass the Dutch citizenship test, doesn't count even if you buy a golden visa, ya still gotta learn Dutch

what a freakin paradise Amsterdam is
even without Hungarian/EU citizenship, having a "travel base" so near to Europe, means we could spend much more time there
without even getting on a plane
I love European train travel, although the first time I rode on a bullet train, it scared me a little, cuz of how damned fast we were going

[Trenchcoat]

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukraine-moves-toward-dual-citizenship-zelenskyy-ready-to-sign-bill/ar-AA1IurkJ?ocid=winp1taskbar&cvid=9e952e2670bd4e8ec62689bdb3dff5cd&ei=12

it looks like next week, dual citizenship will be fully legalized in Ukraine
previously, my wife would've had to renounce her American citizenship, if she regained her Ukrainian citizenship
the WAR changed all that

with that bit of news
my wife has requested that I handle the paperwork for "reestablishing her Ukrainian citizenship"

my first stop will be the Embassy of Ukraine in Washing Tundy Sea
although I may just hand it over to a Ukrainian "advocat"
I'll make that decision in a few weeks

my wife ONLY would want to return to Ukraine, even to visit, when the war is over
if this happens...
we'd like to buy property south of Uzhhorod
and be as close as possible to Hungary (I can speak a little Hungarian)

a strong possibility that in a future Russian/Ukrainian war
this area would go to Hungary and not Russia, and be known as Magyr Ruthenia
Ukrainian citizens would become Hungarian and hence EU citizens
and we could live in Amsterdam without learning Dutch

SWEET, i'd be the happiest person who over lived
every time I tried to learn Dutch, I'd get it mixed up with German
no way could we pass the Dutch citizenship test, doesn't count even if you buy a golden visa, ya still gotta learn Dutch

what a freakin paradise Amsterdam is
even without Hungarian/EU citizenship, having a "travel base" so near to Europe, means we could spend much more time there
without even getting on a plane
I love European train travel, although the first time I rode on a bullet train, it scared me a little, cuz of how damned fast we were going

Good news, it will make relationships between WM and Ukrainian women a bit easier I think as it will other family members. How about your daughters Krim is Ukrainian citizenship something they seek/have? I think it will give more potential for opportunities.

As a WM one of the things I noticed for WM interested in Ukrainian citizenship was the requirement for those seeking citizenship to have gained proficiency in the Ukrainian language lol. I assume that knowing the Russian language is no longer desired or a suitable substitute as far as fulfilling the language requirement for Ukrainian citizenship. For many WM the last thing they probably want is Ukrainian citizenship at the moment as it can potentially mean them being drafted into the Ukrainian Army and sent to the front even if a dual citizen. Being a temporary/permanent resident is probably a lot better option.

I don't know if this requirement to show proficiency in the Ukrainian language would be needed for your wife if she is seeking to regain/re-establish her Ukrainian Citizenship Krim?

I think in general this move will make Ukraine seem more open and friendlier to the West. Immediately though because of the war I don't think it will have people rushing in though.

Uzhhorod is very near the Hungary border and hasn't really been hit like other Ukrainian cities by Russian air strikes from what I hear so I guess it's pretty popular at the moment for those wanting relative safety in Ukraine. Potentially that Hungary may be interested in that territory may be telling as to the reason why Russia has kept away from airstrike. I guess the risk of accidentally overshooting into EU terrority may be another reason also.

I don't know though, I think the scenario for the Ukraine war may not go the way you describe here Krim. Potentially if Russia go bankrupt and the remnants of its Army forced to leave Ukraine as a result they might be never coming back. It took Russia about twenty years to get over from the fall of the Soviet Union economically, if it goes bankrupt even if Russia doesn't break up it could take them a long while just to get their economy steady enough again, even that isn't assured as we move away from fossil fuels.

[krimster2]

no, unlike Russia, Ukraine is OFFICIALLY a multi-lingual society
it's in their constitution
and WOW! English is NOW one of the officially recognized languages of Ukraine
in theory, it means I can take a written driving test in English

how did WWI end?
from exhaustion!

when Russia is exhausted, then the WMDs come out
like Novichok did in Syria
then what happens?

[Trenchcoat]

no, unlike Russia, Ukraine is OFFICIALLY a multi-lingual society
it's in their constitution
and WOW! English is NOW one of the officially recognized languages of Ukraine
in theory, it means I can take a written driving test in English

how did WWI end?
from exhaustion!

when Russia is exhausted, then the WMDs come out
like Novichok did in Syria
then what happens?

Many sources around but Wikipedia states it here:

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_nationality_law#:~:text=Foreigners

"Foreigners may naturalize as Ukrainian citizens after living in the country for a continuous period of at least five years. Applicants must have been issued an immigration permit and must demonstrate proficiency in the Ukrainian language."

My guess is that Russia will use WMD's just on the front line Ukrainian military, but I fear being Russia they might use WMD's on Civilians in the cities also.

Hopefully their economy will suddenly start cracking up before then and other internal matters in Russia will overtake them using WMD's.

The way this is going even if Russia did take Ukraine I think Ukraine would be so stripped of population with Ukrainians piling into the EU and the economy and cities so bad in Ukraine that Russia might gain more of a economic dead weight than anything rather than any economic gain from taking Ukrainian territory.

[krimster2]

"Foreigners may naturalize as Ukrainian citizens after living in the country for a continuous period of at least five years. Applicants must have been issued an immigration permit and must demonstrate proficiency in the Ukrainian language."

that's the old law, it will be supplanted by the new law, that Zelensky will sign next week

i've had residency in Ukraine before
if my wife decides to return to Ukraine, super easy for me to seek residency
I have 2 ukrainian grandparents, and one ukrainian wife, kids went to school in Ukraine
we would not be full time residents, more like a summer home, to be used as a travel base

think of the benefits if Western Ukraine switched it's rail system from the old Soviet guage to the common european guage
western Ukraine to Vienna in 90 minutes!!!!
dear where would you like to go to dinner tonight, Vienna or Budapest?

blast from the past (literally)

http://x.com/i/status/1944293520254329226

there's what you tell the masses, and then 180 degrees opposite of that there's the truth
the ministry of truth ALWAYS tells lies

[2tallbill]

How come Putin is letting Russia's military and economy be ground down by the war in Ukraine and hasn't used WMD's already?

Putin isn't going to use Nukes unless there are Ukrainian tanks outside the Kremlin. When Chernobyl melted down there was fallout
radiation scattered all over Europe. Detonating a nuke device above ground in the open air in Ukraine would be an act of war against
NATO because of the deadly fallout. That's actually something that Siloviki/nomenklatura in Russia would actually assassinate Putin for. 
Putin knows this.

http://www.grida.no/resources/7418

[Trenchcoat]

Putin isn't going to use Nukes unless there are Ukrainian tanks outside the Kremlin. When Chernobyl melted down there was fallout
radiation scattered all over Europe. Detonating a nuke device above ground in the open air in Ukraine would be an act of war against
NATO because of the deadly fallout. That's actually something that Siloviki/nomenklatura in Russia would actually assassinate Putin for. 
Putin knows this.

http://www.grida.no/resources/7418

Didn't say Nukes specifically. He could use Neutron bombs or a lot more chemical warfare, etc.

[olgac]

A Texas family who moved to Russia citing traditional values and a desire to escape Western propaganda is facing a difficult situation. The father, promised a non-combat role, was sent to the front lines in Ukraine shortly after signing a contract with the Russian military. His wife reports that he is struggling with the language barrier and receiving inadequate training.