The Struggle For Ukraine

[Trenchcoat]

the Von RibbenTrump-Molotov Treaty signed in Alaska between two autocrats
is meant to be openly rejected by Zelensky
so Fox/Pravda can frame Zelensky for being "anti-peace"
after rejecting Trump's "sincere efforts"  to "stop the killing"

this is why Putin HAS NO CHOICE but to kill Ukrainians in order to stop killing Ukrainians
a real connundrum

Trump has transferred the whole burden of Ukrainian support entirely upon Europe
and then he squeezes their economies with tariffs so that it puts "limits" on their support

China will not let Putin fail, and neither will Trump
Russia is well on it's way to becoming a "resource colony" for China
the way India once was for Britain

Looks like you were wrong on this one Krim, no cease fire/peace deal was reached:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clyvd3gkg1po

I was surprised I thought like you that it would be a sign the paper on land loss to Ukraine or else.

Maybe Putler thinks he can get more land by pursuing the war so isn't that interested in deals right now.

Now that Trump isn't giving Ukraine anything he's got no gun to hold to Ukraine's head. Ukraine no longer has anything to lose by refusing anything President Trump puts before them.

Now it's down to Ukraine to hold on and wait for the Russian economy to break up.

[krimster2]

I didn't expect an actual "Peace Treety", I just thought they'd coordinate to frame the failure of Zelensky to sign anything as "a failure to seek PEACE" and be "punished"
but they didn't even do that
didn't even get a "minerals deal with Russia"

Putin missed an opportunity
Trump's Treaty Show, was a "show all about nothing" like Sinefeld

on to Zapad 25

PS
it's starting to look like Trump "misread" Putin, and Putin "played" Trump
it looks like Trump expected something else from Putin and WAS VERY disappointed instead

I expect him to focus less on Ukraine in the future
which will be a GOOD thing for Ukraine

[Trenchcoat]

My guess is that it came down to the precious rare mineral deposits Ukraine has. Ukraine came to a deal with the US and Trump wants them. Putler also likely wants them, the greed will have kicked in hard there lol. So Trump was probably left dumbfounded when Putler didn't want to know about the US having any of it.

Trump was left speechless.

Zelensky is meeting with Trump on Monday at the White House.

Maybe Trump will see that his interests are with Ukraine now 🤔

[krimster2]

"Maybe Trump will see that his interests are with Ukraine now"

if Trump "doesn't get paid" by Putin
then maybe Trump and Putin will "split" the way Trump and Epstein split, which was ACTUALLY a conflict about money!

show me the money Vlad!!!
what money Donald?
DOH!!

the future of the Russo-Ukrainian war is pretty much ALL up to Europe now
this is one of the major weak links in the chain, another being draft evasion

if Trump is SECRETLY still workin for Putin, after this failed circus act
then Trump will try to break this chain or at least weaken it for Pootin

watch and learn

100% confirmation that Russians are workin on multiple WMD solutions at MAXIMUM PRIORITY

meanwhile, there is no longer any outside internet contact with Crimea, except through installing a Russian Telegram app on yur phone
this just happened
becuz Ukrainian drones were using Russian Mobile SIM Cards while being remotely piloted from outside Russia




it looks like this whole meeting was a "misunderstanding or mistranslation"
well isn't that "special"?

Russians and Chinese are "big time" weapons suppliers to the Mexican Narco Cartels
and they're rapidly expanding their sales volume

cartels now have heavy machine guns, RPGs, and Russian drones and they're being used on a regular basis

 

[Trenchcoat]

There's a possibility that Russia might use WMD'S in Ukraine. We'll have to see. I don't think Putler has long left to make the call on that one. Over the next year then economy could just get too bad for Russia to continue the war.

Ukraine has seemingly counterattacked around Pokrovsk and looks like it retook the territory Russia took that was endangering Pokrovsk. News articles cite that Ukrainian trenches were left vacant and potentially that is how Russian troops were able to get in. Was this Ukrainian conscripts not wanting to be there or perhaps allowed to let Putler go to Alaska with a sense that he didn't need to do a deal, who knows.

Anyway European Leaders are to join Zelensky at the White House on Monday. Apparently Putler wants existing lands he holds in the Donbass as well as additional lands that he doesn't hold. He is apparently willing to accept a NATO style of organisation in Ukraine to protect against further invasion. I don't think Zelensky will go for it and I think he is better off not going for it, but we shall see.

[krimster2]

look at the movement of the "Russian Front" in the last couple of years in Ukraine
there's been very little movement
so a pretty big cost that produces a very tiny gain

it depends on how long Putin can keep paying that cost
Putin has 3+ more years of Trump
so, the "window" is open from NOW until the next 3+ years
WMDs end wars quickly, just ask Japan

erstwhile....
http://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/16/world/europe/trump-putin-ukraine-land-swap.html?unlocked_article_code=1.ek8.NJai.pAfzJIZCoa4C&smid=url-share

and further more
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/2096355/donald-trump-setting-zelensky-fail-vladimir-putin-alaska

[Trenchcoat]

look at the movement of the "Russian Front" in the last couple of years in Ukraine
there's been very little movement
so a pretty big cost that produces a very tiny gain

True, I forgot to add above that when Ukraine flushed the Russians out of the villages and land around Pokrovsk that they had taken the Ukrainians found that those Russian soldiers were very poorly equipped and armed, some with just pistol and many with less than that. Sounds like they were just able to move forward as they had met no resistance. Ukraine blew up their arms & weapons dump, etc a number of weeks ago now so leaving Russian troops with not much to use. Ukraine also took out a supply train of Russian tanks and armoured vehicles around the same time. So Russia is now largely out of tanks, armoured vehicles and even small arms it seems.

Russia uses tactics if sending forward small groups of Russian soldiers at a time to probe for weak spots into which a larger Russian forces can move once they have dug in. So odds are they don't bother arming these Russian groups too well as if they are lost (most are) then so are their weapons.

My guess as to why Russian troops didn't move forward en-masse as there are around 100,000 around Pokrovsk maybe because these troops may just largely not have the weapons to be at all affective. That the are now having to wait for more small arms etc to come to the front. Otherwise if they move out into the field they probably risk being mown down in their droves with nothing to defend themselves with.

[krimster2]

with Zelensky summoned to Washington, Trump will try to corner him into a deal he cannot accept — a land swap, a false 'peace' carved out of Ukraine’s sovereignty.
And when he refuses, Trump will paint him as the obstacle, the problem, the reason peace failed.

That’s the plan. That’s what Alaska was really about

if this happens, then it's a very short path to Trump repealing US sanctions, which causes a MAJOR crisis for Europe
I like how European leaders are showing up to support Zelensky because they DON'T TRUST Trump AT ALL due to the last white house meeting Zelensky had
I wonder what Zelensky will wear this time?  Military attire or a Blue Trump suit?

PS
http://www.rawstory.com/marco-rubio-2673891188/

yup!!  it's already happening!!!!