What specific aspects?

[wiz]

On this board there are many members married to an FSU woman, many are still looking and others planning to visit there for the same purpose.

So what specific aspects of the FSU ladies character that differs from women in your homeland particularly took you down this road?

Enlighten us please!



PS : Original question posted by MAN elsewhere...sorry copying it but curious!

[Bruno]

So what specific aspects of the FSU ladies character that differs from women in your homeland particularly took you down this road?

Almost no difference... simply some cultural difference...

The fact that my first wife was Russian, that the next one will be Ukrainian are simple coincidence... It have can be a Belgium one, a French, German, Moldavian, etc ... Only, i was not wishing a colored women or a Muslim one... for the rest, i was open to all... with a little preference for Asian but it is so far away from Belgium... FSU is neighbor from Europa.

[TheHorseman]

Though the women in the FSU are extremely beautiful and that is what started my interest.  I just like the difference in the culture.  For me it is like stepping back in time.  Stepping back in time is the perfect direction for an old cowboy.

I love the cute accents too.

Will

[Jet]

Wiz the funny thing is, most of the other married guys I know, or know in cyberspace, who were/are enjoying what most would consider "success" in this endeavour, never specifically targeted FSU women. Most wouldn't even consider going the agency route, and developed their "addiction" the old fashioned way - through interaction.
In my case, (and KenC's, and BC's IIRC) I wasn't even looking to get married again, TO ANY WOMAN.

That said, some of the things that initially attracted me to her were:
*She was intelligent and articulate (before her I typically dated women 8-10 yrs older than myself just to get a decent conversation once in a while)
*She taught me to look at the world from a different perspective
*Our family and career views/goals/ethics were in line
*Although she'd been married before, and obviously had to have some baggage, she kept it neatly stacked in the closet, rather than the average American woman who likes to throw it all out on the front lawn in a big pile (I.E. I was not forced to pay for the mistakes of Ex boyfriends/husband)
*It was very refreshing to meet a woman who actually ENJOYS being a woman, and wholly subscribes to the philosophy "Equal but different" in the marriage partnership.

[BC]

Wiz the funny thing is, most of the other married guys I know, or know in cyberspace, who were/are enjoying what most would consider "success" in this endeavour, never specifically targeted FSU women. Most wouldn't even consider going the agency route, and developed their "addiction" the old fashioned way - through interaction.
In my case, (and KenC's, and BC's IIRC) I wasn't even looking to get married again, TO ANY WOMAN.

Right on the mark again Jet...

One aspect that I find truly different it is the ability to be very upfront and direct about absolutely anything in our relationship.  I can remember countless arguements with ex's over petty stuff that simply served to veil the real problem involved.  Now if something comes up we deal with the core issue and get on with our lives.  IMHO this is probably the single most difficult concept WM will have to learn during the adjustment period.. and a refreshing way of life thereafter.

The accent was the real killer.. enough to bring anyone to their knees.. 

[Nando]

Comparing them with my country counterparts I would say:

In average more direct and less shy (tried to find acquaintances through the Internet in my country and it was a disaster, 95% don't even want to show their picture)
A bigger pool of pretty single women and more interested in a family and marriage (don't want a divorced woman with children this time) and somehow more feminine
In average with good education and capable of a decent conversation, without their primary goal of becoming CEO or a workaholic wife
And of course I find them exotic 

Sorry Bruno but I find Belgian, English, Dutch and German woman lack their feminine side a lot, the way they dress and they look is many times ...dull.
Spanish and Italian women are much more interesting...in average

Just my two cents

[ConnerVT]

Wiz the funny thing is, most of the other married guys I know, or know in cyberspace, who were/are enjoying what most would consider "success" in this endeavour, never specifically targeted FSU women. Most wouldn't even consider going the agency route, and developed their "addiction" the old fashioned way - through interaction.

But not all of them.  I am an example that doesn't fit the above statement.

*Although she'd been married before, and obviously had to have some baggage, she kept it neatly stacked in the closet, rather than the average American woman who likes to throw it all out on the front lawn in a big pile (I.E. I was not forced to pay for the mistakes of Ex boyfriends/husband)

I agree with all of your bullet points, but this is the one that truly made me smile when I read it.   

[Jet]

But not all of them.  I am an example that doesn't fit the above statement.

Actually, truth be told, I had you (and Rvr) specifically in mind as the exception, when I wrote "most" 

[catzenmouse]

Actually, truth be told, I had you (and Rvr) specifically in mind as the exception, when I wrote "most" 

'nudder one here...

[PeeWee]

If you lived in the Pacific Northwest, as I do, you would soon realize that if you hope to find an attractive non single mother then you need to look elsewhere. The only decision that one needs to make is what is your mileage limit. Because I have and do travel all over the world all of the time the world seems very small to me. Because I know three men who married foreign women, two Philippine and one Argentine, I knew that I did not need to set my boundries at the next state beyond.

My only impression of RW came to me via the movie Dr. Zhivago and James Bond. That is like saying that you know NY because you saw the movie Midnight Cowboy. None the less it sparked my interest to explore. What I found were a group of women who, by in large, are intellegent, willing to team play, direct in both thought and word, feminine beyond most others, willing to purse a task without quiting. These types seem easier for me to find in Eastern Europe then most other places altough I do see many great qualities in Asian women, Scandinavian women, and German women. I'm not looking in the Middle East, Africa, UK, France..etc, in other words.

Peewee

[Momus]

If you lived in the Pacific Northwest, as I do, you would soon realize that if you hope to find an attractive non single mother then you need to look elsewhere.

Did you mean "attractive single non-mother"? Or are you looking to have an affair with a MILF, Peewee? 

Anyway, there are a lot of legitimate answers to this question, though I suspect we tiptoe around the obvious one for whatever reason. Of all those potentially legitimate answers, Peewee's strikes me as bullshit. (No offense, Peewee!)

Peewee, I'm not sure where you live in Washington. But doing a search on Match in Seattle for women 21-40, slender and athletic body types and university educated only, there are 49 pages of results. I flipped through them and plenty of them are gorgeous. So where, exactly, have you been looking? I can't think of many major American cities where it is hard to find plenty of beautiful young single women.

[PeeWee]

Did you mean "attractive single non-mother"? Or are you looking to have an affair with a MILF, Peewee? 

Anyway, there are a lot of legitimate answers to this question, though I suspect we tiptoe around the obvious one for whatever reason. Of all those potentially legitimate answers, Peewee's strikes me as bull*snip*. (No offense, Peewee!)

Peewee, I'm not sure where you live in Washington. But doing a search on Match in Seattle for women 21-40, slender and athletic body types and university educated only, there are 49 pages of results. I flipped through them and plenty of them are gorgeous. So where, exactly, have you been looking? I can't think of many major American cities where it is hard to find plenty of beautiful young single women.

I don't know. I have lived here all of my life and I do not see them very often. I know that I am looking because when I travel to Portland or Boise I often remark that there seems to be more better looking women in those two cities than there are in Seattle. It's just a fact. I will take a look at Match.com. I may discover something was under my very nose.

Ok...I visited Match. I think what it is, Momus, is that our standards are a bit different and that we are looking in different arenas. I would not look 20 to 30 range and you might. I suspect that once a NW woman reaches 30 she must lose it when it comes to her looks. I just don't see them...of course the other explaination is that my standards are over the top when it comes to looks. Like I said, our tastes, as is everyone's, are different.

Peewee

[jb]

To try to answer wiz's question.  There were so many things about my wife that I was drawn to, aside from her obvious physical good looks.  Not only is she an extremely intelligent and well educated woman, she's also very smart and clever, a possessor of mountains of common sense.  She has a finely developed sense of taste and harmony I do not find in local women, and her views about family and social traditions are so close to what I was raised with we could almost be brother and sister rather than husband and wife.  That she is always feminine goes without saying, she has such an intense pride in who she is and what's good for her family that there seems never to be a mis-step anyone could ever detect.

She may not be a perfect woman, but she's perfect for me.

[ConnerVT]

She may not be a perfect woman, but she's perfect for me.

Awwwwww......

jb, you are so misunderstood.  The truth is, you're just a big ol' softy...   

[jb]

The truth is, you're just a big ol' softy...

Among other things,,, that too....

[PeeWee]

If you lived in the Pacific Northwest, as I do, you would soon realize that if you hope to find an attractive single without children, so may or them are single moms, then you need to look elsewhere. The only decision that one needs to make is what is your mileage limit. Because I have and do travel all over the world all of the time the world seems very small to me. Because I know three men who married foreign women, two Philippine and one Argentine, I knew that I did not need to set my boundries at the next state beyond.

My only impression of RW came to me via the movie Dr. Zhivago and James Bond. That is like saying that you know NY because you saw the movie Midnight Cowboy. None the less it sparked my interest to explore. What I found were a group of women who, by in large, are intellegent, willing to team play, direct in both thought and word, feminine beyond most others, willing to purse a task without quiting. These types seem easier for me to find in Eastern Europe then most other places altough I do see many great qualities in Asian women, Scandinavian women, and German women. I'm not looking in the Middle East, Africa, UK, France..etc, in other words.

Peewee

[Bruno]

Peewee, do you try to raise your post count 

Now, you quote your own previous post without any other comment 

 ???  ???  ???

[jb]

I think what you are seeing is Peewee desperately trying to do damage control right now.  I doubt if he has a straight thought in his head at the moment.

[PeeWee]

Peewee, do you try to raise your post count 

Now, you quote your own previous post without any other comment 

 ???  ???  ???

You got me, but does it make a difference anyway?

Peewee

[PeeWee]

I think what you are seeing is Peewee desperately trying to do damage control right now.  I doubt if he has a straight thought in his head at the moment.

Damage control? How so? The post and responce was straight forward. I am confused only by your nonesensical comment here. What damage is there to control?

Peewee

[wiz]

To try to answer wiz's question.  There were so many things about my wife that I was drawn to, aside from her obvious physical good looks.  Not only is she an extremely intelligent and well educated woman, she's also very smart and clever, a possessor of mountains of common sense.  She has a finely developed sense of taste and harmony I do not find in local women, and her views about family and social traditions are so close to what I was raised with we could almost be brother and sister rather than husband and wife.  That she is always feminine goes without saying, she has such an intense pride in who she is and what's good for her family that there seems never to be a mis-step anyone could ever detect.

She may not be a perfect woman, but she's perfect for me.

Thanks for your comments and sticking to my question.

That is very helpful and makes me understand my g/f Olga better, which I am meeting for second time next month, in Greece again.

I am not an oil paint myself and in my view Olga is attractive and much closer to my age.
No I am not looking for a young very attractive woman as a trophy wife!

She is extremely well educated with 2 University Diplomas in Economics and most important she speaks very good English, trained in Oxford and Cambridge summer schools in UK and our communication is excellent.

She has never asked me about money, income etc and only knows that I am a poor pensioner, which is what I wrote in my profile!

She point blank twice, in Kos and now in Corfu, refused any help in paying for her holidays to Greece and I guess that is her way of contributing.

Early days yet but I think I am on the right track.

[PeeWee]

Thanks for your comments and sticking to my question.

That is very helpful and makes me understand my g/f Olga better, which I am meeting for second time next month, in Greece again.

I am not an oil paint myself and in my view Olga is attractive and much closer to my age.
No I am not looking for a young very attractive woman as a trophy wife!

She is extremely well educated with 2 University Diplomas in Economics and most important she speaks very good English, trained in Oxford and Cambridge summer schools in UK and our communication is excellent.

She has never asked me about money, income etc and only knows that I am a poor pensioner, which is what I wrote in my profile!

She point blank twice, in Kos and now in Corfu, refused any help in paying for her holidays to Greece and I guess that is her way of contributing.

Early days yet but I think I am on the right track.

it sounds like you are heading in the right direction, Wizzer. The only thing that you may draw fire for from the gay beards and the pickle packers is that you are meeting her in Greece and not in her native city. I found that out when I mentioned that I was soon to vacation with an RW in Prague. Best of luck to you, as always, and a trip report is to follow, I  hope?

Did you really say that you were a pensioner? Is this one of those "The Prince and the Pauper" stories? Or "Coming to America" where the prince of Zumnda traveled to Queens to find a queen that did not know that he was a rich prince?

If so. Well done, lad.

Peewee

[Bruno]

The only thing that you may draw fire for from the gay beards and the pickle packers is that you are meeting her in Greece and not in her native city. I found that out when I mentioned that I was soon to vacation with an RW in Prague.

The comment about meeting your girl in Prague was from me and not "the gay beards and the pickle packers"...  and the fact that the Wiz girl pay his own trip make a very huge difference...

[wiz]

it sounds like you are heading in the right direction, Wizzer. The only thing that you may draw fire for from the gay beards and the pickle packers is that you are meeting her in Greece and not in her native city. I found that out when I mentioned that I was soon to vacation with an RW in Prague. Best of luck to you, as always, and a trip report is to follow, I  hope?

Did you really say that you were a pensioner? Is this one of those "The Prince and the Pauper" stories? Or "Coming to America" where the prince of Zumnda traveled to Queens to find a queen that did not know that he was a rich prince?

If so. Well done, lad.

Peewee

May I please ask you to keep your exchanges with JB for the other thread? Thank you.

Yes of course I wil post a trip report at the last part of August when I am back.

It was a common decision during the summer to enjoy holiday breaks in Greece because she definitely needs a good rest and we are both away from our normal environment. That give us the opportunity to get to know each other better, 24/7 together, without the every day distractions of life in Russia or UK. That will come later.

Prague is a very nice place and I am sure you will have a wonderful holiday. I had an excellent 60 yrs birthday party there with my 18 family, friends and relatives.

No lies there I am not rich or a Prince. I am a pensioner and we will have enough for a normal life but not many luxuries. On the other hand she made it clear if we get together then she wants to work for her own sanity.

[Jet]

The only thing that you may draw fire for from the gay beards and the pickle packers is that you are meeting her in Greece and not in her native city. I found that out when I mentioned that I was soon to vacation with an RW in Prague.

Unless I missed something along the way, Wiz lived in Greece, and you haven't lived in Czechoslovakia. See the difference?