Down the drain...

[BillyB]

Guys, that women sent me pics of herself as naked as the day she was born. Do you want to see the proof?  I suspect she was a strip club dancer based on the availablilty of her offering videos, the type of background of one of the photos, the stage she was standing on and the pole she was holding on to.

Alfie, don't be mistaken, a "sponsor" to a RW is more like a sugar daddy than a financial investor unless you're investing in young flesh.

[DKMM]

snowm,

Don't even think about not going.  In fact, you should still meet the girl when you go in my opinion.  Who says you have to marry her. . .

Anyways, this type of thing is better to find out now than say on day 2 of your journey.  The grizzled veterans on here keep saying 2 things over and over and with good reason:  always have backups and don't fall for a girl before you meet!

I planned a trip around one girl, she fell through last June (found another guy) and I was feeling the same thing as you.  Well as it turns out, I am going in 4 weeks and looking forward to the adventure...with that attitude in mind I have since aquired plenty of backups and lo and behold a few days ago she is begging me "back" (not that I was "hers" in the 1st place). 

Keep the right attitude, she missed out on truly a great opportunity so its her loss and you should be glad to not have married someone that stupid.

[Oiler]

Snowm,

Until you meet face to face you don't have ANY real relationship at all.   90% of the guys who write never make the trip so a woman would be really stupid to write to just one guy.  Most women write to several guys.  Perfectly normal.

A lot of newcomers regard letter writing as some sort of investment.  It is nothing of the sort.  It does not matter how many letters you have exchanged.  If there is no (or negative) chemistry when you meet then it is game over....

Sponsorship and a business partner are two very different things but in your case both are negative.  A young woman who has just started a business is not going to be keen on emigration (unless the business fails)  If she has a "sponsor" in Ukraine parlance then any relationship you may have in future should be for fun 

Go to Ukraine in October.  Maybe enlist the help of an agency.  Date, have fun and learn the ropes.

I always have prbolems when people quote figures without any backup. How do you know 90% of the guys who write never go? I do agree a lot do not go and the ones that do may drop the girls as they have too many choices.

Letters are ok to past the time but in no way does it mean anything, that I agree with you. I would have at least 3 women on your A list before even contemplating on going.

[Stirlitz]

*sponsor - wealthy / upper middle class married guy who pays his girlfriend on regular basis, jewelry, perfumes and cash, ceases to be when cash runs out or finds a younger prettier girlfriend

Not necessarily. In business it often means just 'investor'. So it may be OK.

[docetae]

The time you are not married and not living together , do not even think about fidelity ... Sex is a phyisical need and this is totally normal if she is satisfying her ... like you can satisfy you. In this case you have not even meet her .. So if you continue to date someone abroad , be prepared to be hurt many times ....

And about business sponsor, sex has nothing to do with ... Do you think that all women starting business have to make love to get money ?

[ConnerVT]

I always have prbolems when people quote figures without any backup. How do you know 90% of the guys who write never go? I do agree a lot do not go and the ones that do may drop the girls as they have too many choices.

I would imagine from discussing this with quite a few people involved in the RW introduction industry -- Owners, interpreters, and women.  It's interesting to speak with some of the people whom deal with this on a daily basis.  They can tell some stories...

[Vaughn]

It's interesting to speak with some of the people whom deal with this on a daily basis.  They can tell some stories...

Like Natasha at Sweethearts in Yoshkar-Ola. We paid her a visit
back in June and asked that very question - she told us more than
90% never show up. I think Leslie's estimate is realistic across the
industry.

[Turboguy]

I think there are two aspects of it.  You have the armchair Romeos that write and never make a trip at all.  Then you have the guys who do make trips but write a lot of girls trying to find the ones they really want to visit.  I probably meet about 1% of the gals I write to.  I think many others are the same way.   Billy for example, wrote what 250 gals and did not visit a very large percentage of those.   I have no problem thnking that 90 percent never show up.

[beattledog]

Both the men and women are trying to maximaze their search for their mates. The ladies use the agencies, and the men write  many letters, narrowing it down to a few to visit.

Mourning beattledog

[Rvrwind]

 

always have prbolems when people quote figures without any backup. How do you know 90% of the guys who write never go? I do agree a lot do not go and the ones that do may drop the girls as they have too many choices.

Well I am in the industry & I assure you the percentage is even higher. I put it around 95% - 97%. Most of the guys who write aka "Keyboard Romeos" are just that. They are either married & just playing while bored at their job or they don't have the finances to commit to such an endevour in the first place.
I have been watching the dynamics for several years & when I say 95%, I even say that is conservative. A lot of guys write & write & write & then all of a sudden just stop & are never heard from again. That is the biggest reason we charge by the letter for correspondence. That allows us to keep our other costs down because all of these guys that never show up are paying for the time my translators are taken up using the service which I have to pay them for. Then I don't have to charge the guys who do show up exhorbatant prices to make up for the guys who don't show, like many other company's do.
You look at this & other boards & think this is it, this is the guys that are in contact with foreign women. I assure you, the members of this board & several other boards combined are but a mere drop in the bucket compared to the overall # of men writing to foreign women, men of whom have never heard of these boards & have never done any research into the entire process. Why? Because they never had or will have any intention of following through. They get their jolly's writing to Olga Smokinhotkova & remain literally in their fantasy world. ???

[Turboguy]

The guy who got me started with Russian women by showing me a catalog years ago was a guy on welfare who probably had never had a job in his life.  He lived in a house with no running water that looked like it was ready to fall down.   That was pre-internet so you would by addresses from a catalog and he would take the addresses I did not want and write them but only right after the first of the month when his welfare check arrived so he could afford the stamps.  That was back when the gals were basically at the near starvation level.  I felt sorry for them wasting their money on postage to write him. 

I think people stoping writing is a two way street.   One of the frequent commments I hear from the men is they want to write a lady long enough to feel they are interested before they waste the money for a trip and about the time they are conviced the girl is serious enough she will stop writing.

[PeeWee]

I think there are two aspects of it.  You have the armchair Romeos that write and never make a trip at all.  Then you have the guys who do make trips but write a lot of girls trying to find the ones they really want to visit.  I probably meet about 1% of the gals I write to.  I think many others are the same way.   Billy for example, wrote what 250 gals and did not visit a very large percentage of those.   I have no problem thnking that 90 percent never show up.

i have to think that I might me an anomoly. If I eliminate the twice email I can safely say that I have met 100% of the RW that I have written to. In the last 6 years I have maybe communicated with 15 RW total. I have met 5 of them. I dated one of the 5 for 3 years, one of the 5 for two years, and the latest for 6 months, but I have met her already. I have met one scammer but I figured her out by the Heidi Klum photo that she sent to me.

Do not ask me why I have this odds. I think it is because I really think about who it is that I am going to send an email to before I do it. I must also write a good first email because most of them respond back to me. From there I focus on just one at a time, for a long time.

Peevee

[Turboguy]

Just in contrast, I am probably communicating with 50 or more right now.   Proably 150 since the first of the year.  I am starting to slow it down a bit.  Between my upcoming tour and one that seems pretty special in Sibera I want to see what happens.

[PeeWee]

Just in contrast, I am probably communicating with 50 or more right now.   Proably 150 since the first of the year.  I am starting to slow it down a bit.  Between my upcoming tour and one that seems pretty special in Sibera I want to see what happens.

Warning, Turbodude.  Not to overlook maybe one now living in Vlad-k. For the time being try not to let her get lost in the multitudes.

I saw that Steeler game last night. Do the Steelers have their own officiating crew?

Peevee

[Turboguy]

Don't worry PeeVee.  I have 50 I write.  30 of which when the write me I have to look them up to see who they are and I have two I call, vlad-k being one of the two so she has a definate edge. 

Hey, the Steelers need all the help they can get.  Besides that I thought the officiating was wonderful, almost as good as the Super Bowl.