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Re: How to Visit Many without lying?
« Reply #525 on: January 14, 2019, 01:21:26 PM »
I stumbed across this article on a completely unrelated website. What stood out was the following:

My ex got me into bed with her less than 6 hours after getting off the plane in the Philippines in 2007; geez, I was suckered bad.

http://www.stickmanbangkok.com/readers-submissions/2008/11/done-over-by-a-filipina-in-australia/

I'm always dubious about women who jump straight into bed. In my experiences none have been marriage material... замок, который можно открыть любым ключом, плохой замок!


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Re: How to Visit Many without lying?
« Reply #526 on: January 14, 2019, 01:23:17 PM »
Actually we both do change out of outdoor clothing when we come into the house.
One of the main reasons for me is allergens on the clothing.
Don't want to have such achieving such an easy entry into the house.
And it would be even worse to lay down on a bed, even a fully made up bed, with such clothes.
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Re: How to Visit Many without lying?
« Reply #527 on: January 14, 2019, 01:31:07 PM »
My ex got me into bed with her less than 6 hours after getting off the plane in the Philippines in 2007; geez, I was suckered bad.

I'm always dubious about women who jump straight into bed. In my experiences none have been marriage material...

I don't think this is totally true.
Depends on why the woman wants to get into bed with you (or any man) so soon.
At least two scenarios:
1) They are using sex to rope you in.  This is the bad scenario and probably they are not good marriage material.
2) They have a really, really high sex drive for a female.  Doesn't disqualify them as good marriage material.  But of course could cause trouble down the road if the man isn't willing to satisfy her.  And this doesn't mean he has to have standard intercourse and orgasms for himself at her same rate.  Men have all sorts of tools they can use to please the woman sexually;  most are unwilling to perform though.
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Re: How to Visit Many without lying?
« Reply #528 on: January 14, 2019, 02:34:57 PM »
I don't think this is totally true.
When it is straight into bed + much older man + foreigner + with kids + beard + no prior exposure to local culture + no language skills + Ukrainian girl + in her mid 20s + girl has plenty of disposable income then dubious shouldn't be a surprising default position. Good luck to BB99, wish him the best, but smells of James saying how great Ukrainian girls are and how less likely they are to wander...

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Re: How to Visit Many without lying?
« Reply #529 on: January 14, 2019, 03:40:02 PM »
I am supposed to meet her mom tonight.  I am taking her mom and her mom's boyfriend out to dinner.  This should be interesting.  Her mom is my age... but her mom's boyfriend is 26, so they are obviously used to big age gaps in relationships.

Potential for a switch of mates ?
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Re: How to Visit Many without lying?
« Reply #530 on: January 14, 2019, 05:14:34 PM »
Interesting thing about the cold stuff. I have been battling a cold and she has been only wanting me to eat hot food and drinks. She thinks if I consume anything cold it will make me sicker. 

She has no problem with raw stuff though.  We eat sushi all the time (for those who have been here, you know sushi is very popular in Kyiv).  When we were in France, I ate steak tartare many times and she never freaked out.

I am picking my battles wisely with the differences. I donít mind the clothing thing too much, because when she changes, she takes off her bra and wears very tight/skimpy things... so itís kind of a bonus for me.

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Re: How to Visit Many without lying?
« Reply #531 on: January 14, 2019, 05:49:41 PM »
Ahhh, the shoe thing.  Yea... I'm learning that one.  When we arrived in our hotel room in Paris, I immediately started unpacking.  After a couple minutes, I noticed she was just staring at me with this dirty look on her face.  She finally said, "Could you please remove your shoes?"  her words were nice, but with her tone, she might have well said, "Take your shoes off you damn pig!"

She is also REALLY anal about turning lights off.  She freaks out if I leave a room without turning the lights off... even if I am going back to the room in 30 seconds.  Once we were leaving the apartment and I had my boots all laced up and saw that I left a light on.  I looked at her and wondered if it would be okay to leave the light on, just this once... or if I could tiptoe across the floor with my shoes to turn the light off...  One look from her said it all... I unlaced my boots, took them off to walk five feet and turn off a stupid light....

Yeah, FSW can be like that, the previous girl I was with was. In most cases I was observant enough to go through the necessary delicacies. I understand that they are woman and like a bit of refinement and house care, respectful living procedure if you like. I don't mind a bit of it the shoe horn thing I don't mind, etc but sometimes it can be a bit over the top when set against covienience. Kind  of feels like you are walking on eggshells or having to make an effort on minding yourself a bit much sometimes. I did the shoe on in the hotel room and also put my generally clean suitcase on the bedpread to unpack (wheelsof the side of course) that is a big no, no also so watch out for that one ;) 
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Re: How to Visit Many without lying?
« Reply #532 on: January 14, 2019, 06:13:03 PM »
I stumbed across this article on a completely unrelated website. What stood out was the following:

My ex got me into bed with her less than 6 hours after getting off the plane in the Philippines in 2007; geez, I was suckered bad.

http://www.stickmanbangkok.com/readers-submissions/2008/11/done-over-by-a-filipina-in-australia/

I'm always dubious about women who jump straight into bed. In my experiences none have been marriage material... замок, который можно открыть любым ключом, плохой замок!

An interesting Article RWD, it kind of ties in with what I've been saying recently about being reasonably realistic and looking at oneself critically as I think the same applies to FSW. The flooeing stuff in the artle speaks to the same:


"Remember, most of these girls are beautiful enough to have their pick of men and so many of them know it too."

"But don't EVEN think about marrying them. They'll break your heart in the end unless you are a) very "guapo / pogi" meaning: good looking, b) reasonably young and c) possess a high income, preferably all three. If you're in that category, why look overseas for a wife anyway?"

"There are however, genuine Filipina girls out there, but they're much harder to find though. Land one though, and you're set up for life. Such "good girls" are wonderful wives; you'll never meet more loyal, faithful or hard-working partners than these types. Perhaps I'm making generalisations here but I've found that it's the plainer, more homely girls with good education and English, who are also not from dirt poor families that are true marriage material and the girl

"They'll advertise themselves on their Friendster, Facebook, MySpace pages or even dating sites in order to find younger / better looking / wealthier benefactors for better sex and / or to fund the lifestyles that they want (for example, regular nightclubbing and / or long morning lie-ins) without being forced to work for anything. Webcams are great for taking pornographic images or even videos! Regular nightclubbing with "friends" is also another convenient way of picking up prospective partners (so beware if your fiancťe / wife wants to go out clubbing often unless it's something you enjoy together.) These girls usually end up conducting an affair (or series of them) only after obtaining their spousal visa"


I think similar could be seen in the Indel King case, he was a balding fat guy who didn't look at all attractive and he went for a much younger girl. Some guys have the wherewithall to make it work and a very small few get lucky. Most though are a walking target. If he had got down the gym and got a decent toupee and went for a girl around her early thirties he would have been far less of a target. Not to dayhe would'nt have had problems but that he would'nt have been such a big target by underscoring in the character stakes do much.

Girls will unfortunately look down on guys who basically look past it, out of it, undesirable looking in probably at least one or more likely several ways. I think girls who view one guy as inferior will be viewed the same way by many girls, a big age gap for many will likely raise the disadvantages. I think not being taken seriously by girl after girl is a problem and best worked on before repeatedly hitting the same issue.

Another issue is when the girl gets into the UK, US etc and can see how the guy matches up to other guys around. So again ifthe guy is obviously coming up short he will face all of the above dangers of him being used as a mule and the girl hooking up with a guy in her age group. For me, reducing the affects of any obvious disparity would be the thing to do.
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More theorised bollox - courtesy of Trench
« Reply #533 on: January 15, 2019, 12:29:41 AM »
Trench,

WHY are you posting drivel, again ? !

THIS poster  advocates that you cannot truly know a person until you've lived with them a long time ...

Having a bonk with someone you met on a plane .... risky !

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Re: How to Visit Many without lying?
« Reply #534 on: January 15, 2019, 05:23:00 AM »
I stumbed across this article on a completely unrelated website. What stood out was the following:

My ex got me into bed with her less than 6 hours after getting off the plane in the Philippines in 2007; geez, I was suckered bad.

http://www.stickmanbangkok.com/readers-submissions/2008/11/done-over-by-a-filipina-in-australia/

I'm always dubious about women who jump straight into bed. In my experiences none have been marriage material... замок, который можно открыть любым ключом, плохой замок!


6 hours? Are you kidding? They slept together after 6 hours!






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What took him so long? That's playing hard to get in the Philippines. Either that or she was already having doubts him for the first 5 hours
« Last Edit: January 15, 2019, 05:24:37 AM by GenMish »

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Re: How to Visit Many without lying?
« Reply #535 on: January 15, 2019, 09:44:52 AM »
I don't think this is totally true.
Depends on why the woman wants to get into bed with you (or any man) so soon.
At least two scenarios:
1) They are using sex to rope you in.  This is the bad scenario and probably they are not good marriage material.
2) They have a really, really high sex drive for a female.  Doesn't disqualify them as good marriage material.  But of course could cause trouble down the road if the man isn't willing to satisfy her.  And this doesn't mean he has to have standard intercourse and orgasms for himself at her same rate.  Men have all sorts of tools they can use to please the woman sexually;  most are unwilling to perform though.

I have a feeling that in the OP's case it's something in-between 1 and 2.  She had chemistry with him and decided to act on it to rope him in to regard only her during the trip.  The OP initially had 2 or 3 other dates set up after her, that he cancelled.  So it worked. ))


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Re: How to Visit Many without lying?
« Reply #536 on: January 15, 2019, 11:44:57 AM »
There is little correlation between me and the guy in this story. First, Iím not a pathetic guy who canít get a date back home. She didnít rope me in with sex.  Iím the one who initiated sex and I have sex on the first date about 25% of the time... not a big deal.

This girl is not some sex vixen... she is rather inexperienced sexually and has a lot to learn.  Sex is not the centerpiece of our relationship.  She is an attorney with the high council of justice of Ukraine.  She works with the Supreme Court.  She isnít some slutty, desperate low life... if fact, she often goes back and forth about whether she is really prepared to leave everything for the US..  We have many heated debates and probably argue about things more than we should. We are currently having an argument right now... she translated a government website into English for work.  I thought her wording was confusing and sheís mad that I insulted her work.

If she is some trickster trying to rope me in for a ticket to the US, she is doing an extremely shitty job of it.  I enjoy the company and itís nice having sex with a 25 year old where nothing is stretched out or sagging... but I canít say Iím in love or anything.

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Re: How to Visit Many without lying?
« Reply #537 on: January 15, 2019, 12:17:54 PM »
There is little correlation between me and the guy in this story. First, Iím not a pathetic guy who canít get a date back home. She didnít rope me in with sex.  Iím the one who initiated sex and I have sex on the first date about 25% of the time... not a big deal.

This girl is not some sex vixen... she is rather inexperienced sexually and has a lot to learn.  Sex is not the centerpiece of our relationship.  She is an attorney with the high council of justice of Ukraine.  She works with the Supreme Court.  She isnít some slutty, desperate low life... if fact, she often goes back and forth about whether she is really prepared to leave everything for the US..  We have many heated debates and probably argue about things more than we should. We are currently having an argument right now... she translated a government website into English for work.  I thought her wording was confusing and sheís mad that I insulted her work.

If she is some trickster trying to rope me in for a ticket to the US, she is doing an extremely shitty job of it.  I enjoy the company and itís nice having sex with a 25 year old where nothing is stretched out or sagging... but I canít say Iím in love or anything.

You should probably know that being an 'attorney' is not the same thing in Ukraine as it is in the US.
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Re: How to Visit Many without lying?
« Reply #538 on: January 15, 2019, 12:44:06 PM »
You should probably know that being an 'attorney' is not the same thing in Ukraine as it is in the US.

Yes, I am fully aware of her duties and responsibilities. Her mom is a gynecologist and I know that is also different (she does deliver babies).

I lived in Korea while serving in the military and am quite familiar with the ďDrinkyĒ girls that would serve us in bars... they come from places like Thailand and the Philippines.  The clever ones would trick soldiers into marriage.  Those girls seem
Very similar to the girl in the story posted.  My situation is quite different.

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Re: How to Visit Many without lying?
« Reply #539 on: January 15, 2019, 12:54:24 PM »
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