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« Reply #175 on: April 18, 2019, 10:36:14 AM »
More men go to Ukraine because RW in general have a better economy and are less interested in the concept of marrying a foreigner and leaving Russia.   I found it difficult to convince my wife to move because she was for the most part happy with her life.  I assert such is exactly the type of woman a man should romance, whether from Ukraine or Russia.

Also, are tourist visas not easier for Ukraine?


Unlike in Ukraine, the Russian government took a lot of actions to close down the "MOB" industry.  There was also a lot of press on how there "is no place for Russians in the West".


I think the reason more men go to Ukraine is because of the lack of visas.


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« Reply #176 on: April 18, 2019, 10:45:12 AM »
I mentioned once before on here the cost of visits back to other halfs home country, if that is Russia then expense and bother of getting visas can add up. For me my upcoming trip in May, may be the last to Ukraine or towards the end of them if no joy is forthcoming. I like Ukraine as a country but I've seen enough of it now that I see little need to see other parts of it unless a real need. Ukraine is an easy fly in country.


So, in your serious pursuit of a wife, the £100 visa fee is going to be a serious obstacle? You're going to live in notorious Odessa instead? Hmmm...if you think £100 in the grand scheme of this is expensive you need a reality check.

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« Reply #177 on: April 18, 2019, 10:45:57 AM »
In the current climate, many men wouldn't touch a RW or Russia itself with a 10 foot pole.


Yet there is only you that seems to be scared on this forum?

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« Reply #178 on: April 18, 2019, 12:08:35 PM »

So, in your serious pursuit of a wife, the £100 visa fee is going to be a serious obstacle?

Dewd,

Trenchie prefers women who only drink tap water on dates because he doesn't
want a spoiled woman. He is looking for a woman who nicks the toilet paper
from the ladies room at the restaurant and brings it back to his apartment to
help him save a quid because you know it adds up. 

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« Reply #179 on: April 18, 2019, 12:10:01 PM »
In the current climate, many men wouldn't touch a RW or Russia itself with a 10 foot pole.

It's only you.
FSUW are not for entry level daters
FSUW don't do vague
FSUW like a man of action. Be a man of action 
If you find a promising girl, get your butt on a plane.
There are a hundred ways to be successful and a thousand ways to f#ck it up
Kiss the girl, don't ask her first.

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« Reply #180 on: April 18, 2019, 12:31:30 PM »

Yet there is only you that seems to be scared on this forum?


He isn't scared. 


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« Reply #181 on: April 18, 2019, 12:57:17 PM »
You can reach Ed here


Igor can be reached here -


http://www.odessaguide.net/


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« Reply #182 on: April 18, 2019, 01:13:11 PM »
BTW, a couple of years from now Odessa will be part of the Russian Federation
and...
The WAR is going to change EVERYTHING
вы думаете, что любой из этих людей, даже российских, подозревает, что я русский?

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« Reply #183 on: April 18, 2019, 01:50:41 PM »
BTW, a couple of years from now Odessa will be part of the Russian Federation
and...
The WAR is going to change EVERYTHING

All good for this May though I hope :-\

Guess that's the problem with Ukraine at the he moment, investment may not be that secure.
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« Reply #184 on: April 19, 2019, 02:49:31 AM »

He isn't scared. 


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Maybe not, because he's no longer in the same situation as the men here on the board searching. But he is certainly scaremongering.

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« Reply #185 on: April 19, 2019, 05:19:25 AM »
"So what is that?"

http://images.amcnetworks.com/ifc.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/pcu2.jpg

kinda...
just look nicer...
otherwise foreigner + shabbily dressed = sex tourist
foreigner + nicely dressed = biznessman


Got it. I thought maybe it was tight pants, wrap around sun glasses and wearing a lot of bling.

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« Reply #186 on: April 19, 2019, 05:54:50 AM »

So, in your serious pursuit of a wife, the £100 visa fee is going to be a serious obstacle? You're going to live in notorious Odessa instead? Hmmm...if you think £100 in the grand scheme of this is expensive you need a reality check.

£100 ? a one off Tourist visa would be Trench's style..  A yeats's biz visa ( max for a UK citizen ) costs a LOT more - including the invitation - defo keeps Russia Trench-free ;)


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« Reply #187 on: April 19, 2019, 06:52:21 AM »
  You're going to live in notorious Odessa instead?
Can you elaborate on that?

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« Reply #188 on: April 19, 2019, 10:12:34 AM »
Odessa has a certain historical "notoriety" for criminality
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« Reply #189 on: April 19, 2019, 12:09:45 PM »

Unlike in Ukraine, the Russian government took a lot of actions to close down the
"MOB" industry.  There was also a lot of press on how there "is no place for Russians
in the West".


I think the reason more men go to Ukraine is because of the lack of visas.


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What you and Gator said are not mutually exclusive because everything
both of you posted is true. I tend to agree that the number one reason
for Americans is Visa's but for Aussies and Kiwi's they need one in either
case.

Russia did put a damper on the MOB industry and the economy is significantly
better in Russia than in Ukraine. The anti West propaganda has had it's effects
as well.

FSUW are not for entry level daters
FSUW don't do vague
FSUW like a man of action. Be a man of action 
If you find a promising girl, get your butt on a plane.
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Kiss the girl, don't ask her first.

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« Reply #190 on: April 19, 2019, 12:25:55 PM »
Beel,

I have been in Russia more recently and I believe you are mistaken re RW attidute to moving overseas

I think there is heightened interest in western partners in Russia...

The reason? Well you would have to ask the

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« Reply #191 on: April 19, 2019, 12:38:50 PM »
Russia and Ukraine have a completely different ďvibeĒ
itís like the difference between Weimar and Nazi Germany
the stuff you can get away with in Kyiv is amazing
in Moscow you can get busted for Jay Walking in an empty street

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« Reply #192 on: April 19, 2019, 01:00:00 PM »

Maybe not, because he's no longer in the same situation as the men here on the board searching. But he is certainly scaremongering.


No, he isn't.  His point has always been that the inhabitants of a country who support their country's illegal invasion of another country are morally bankrupt.  That is not scaremongering.


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« Reply #193 on: April 19, 2019, 01:19:36 PM »
So, what about places like Líviv? Is that a little further away from the whole sex tourism/professional dating mess?

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« Reply #194 on: April 19, 2019, 01:22:12 PM »
Relatively few women in Western Ukraine are interested in dating foreign men.  Far, far, fewer than in Central/Eastern Ukraine.  That's because most of them have relatives in the West, and many work in Western countries. 


I'm not suggesting it's impossible, but you won't find the numbers you do in, say, Kyiv.


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« Reply #195 on: April 19, 2019, 01:45:29 PM »
HUGE measles epidemic in Western Ukraine now centering in Ternopil
check you vaccination before you go - if you were vaccinated as a kid you might want a refresher - google it

If I were to pick a location...
Dnepr, Chernigov/Nezhin, Kharkhiv, would be at the top
plus all the little satellites that orbit these cities

if you really get desperate, try Moldova!!!






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вы думаете, что любой из этих людей, даже российских, подозревает, что я русский?

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« Reply #196 on: April 19, 2019, 01:51:52 PM »

No, he isn't.  His point has always been that the inhabitants of a country who support their country's illegal invasion of another country are morally bankrupt. That is not scaremongering.


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well.. selectively in that case , I never seen him criticize Americans.

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« Reply #197 on: April 19, 2019, 01:53:18 PM »
Relatively few women in Western Ukraine are interested in dating foreign men.  Far, far, fewer than in Central/Eastern Ukraine.  That's because most of them have relatives in the West, and many work in Western countries. 


I'm not suggesting it's impossible, but you won't find the numbers you do in, say, Kyiv.


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I understand what you are saying, but I would only go there if I met someone online that I wanted to visit... we have beat the WOVO vs. WMVM debate to death on another one of my threads, but I would probably only go if I felt really good about a WOVO prospect.

I realize I wasnít meeting the right women on my last trip to Kiev because I didnít properly screen dates... it was a WOVO visit that turned into a visit many after the first one didnt work out.  I have met two girls on fdating (those were two WOVO trips) and can say they were genuine girls...  not professionals or looking to scam men or to accommodate sex tourists. There were other issues, so it didnít work out.  The other ďnot so greatĒ girls I met in country through sites like Ukrainedate and Tinder.... not a big surprise that a Tinder girl isnít marriage material... but I chose to go out with who was available instead of just staying home alone in my apartment.

That said, It doesnít matter if most Lviv girls arenít interested in wester men... I just need one. It is nice to know that if it doesnít work out, I may have a lonely time in the city.

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« Reply #198 on: April 19, 2019, 01:56:55 PM »
well.. selectively in that case , I never seen him criticize Americans.

 :popcorn:


He's not suggesting men seek out American brides.


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« Reply #199 on: April 19, 2019, 01:58:40 PM »

He's not suggesting men seek out American brides.


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 ::) I think you need to revisit my post and what I commented on because that answer made no sense whatsoever. 
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