I search the man of my dream

[Elen]

Hm Explain:?

Actually I think it's YOU - the guys with English mother language- who should see all  banal "literature" stamps in such kind of letters. Or am I wrong??(In russian translation THAT's always so obviously)

Or "her" boobs close all horisonts for you? So there is  little chance she wrote that by herself ( I would not be surprised if there are some CDs with such letters at our black market:D) 

 

[Bruno]

Touché... Doug, you have make the point... she is desperate... her problem is that she will show her so perfect that man are afraid... man are always suspicious when all is too much perfect...

[Elen]

all is too much perfect...

You are all insane with a brain damage in your "big" head and can think only with your small one if you think THAT is perfect for marriage:? 

 

[Frank]

I sometimes think women from FSU feel the need to show off all they have to get a guys attention.  Maybe, I am wrong? Really, I don't think a decent guy will be interested in her.  Let's just say I wouldn't be interested.  My first thought is that she want's a vacation to another country.

[Bruce]

Location, location, location.  Guys just do not want to go to Kyrgistan, no matter how much of a "sure thing," may be there.  I would think most single guys would be somewhat attracted to her and would at the very least want to correspond with her to see how compatible they may be prior to considering a trip.

[Muzh]

all is too much perfect...

You are all insane with a brain damage in your "big" head and can think only with your small one if you think THAT is perfect for marriage:? 

 
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So Elen; why don't we ask her? 

Hi Marina, your expression is dazed because you need coffee.  Are you a coffee drinker or do you drink hard stuff.  Here people think that you may be a slut.  Are you, or are you an honest girl?  Some think you are too perfect because of what you wrote.  Was it you or a CD?  Why do you want to marry an old coot from the West?  For his money, better living, or is it that there are no men in Kyrg?  Do you really want to love and be loved or are you looking to trade up once you get to the USA?  Are you a scammer?  You send an email to this site, why don't you respond and defend yourself?  Is it because you've been hurt by what was said or is it because you are a dumb blonde with sagging boobs or you don't understand a word we are saying?

Pirividi Pashalsta

[jb]

Boys, this is a tough crowd~!

First of all, the girl IS attractive. Her boobs are not saggy/baggy, and her legs go almost all the way up to her neck.  I cannot speculate on her facial expression, perhaps there is a touch of embarrassment being expressed by having been asked to pose for such sexually suggestive photos, but she, (by her expression) is clearly not having fun in these shots.

Desperate? Maybe....  Desperatation may stem from the fact that she's geographically undesirable, and knows it.  Who wants to travel to Kyrgistan anyway?

For anyone to sit there in the comfort of their home office and lable her a slut based on her photos and a few lines of text is a far reach, IMHO.


You guys and girls need to lighten up a tad.

[Elen]

Pirividi Pashalsta

 What for??

She wrote enough sentences at English to understand your kind invitation

( and honestly I don't like to post such unkind answers to women:? Females solidarity suddenly waked up inside me:D Though I'll send you a translation into PM, let post it yourself if you want)

[Elen]

First of all, the girl IS attractive. Her boobs are not saggy/baggy, and her legs go almost all the way up to her neck. I cannot speculate on her facial expression, perhaps there is a touch of embarrassment being expressed by having been asked to pose for such sexually suggestive photos, but she, (by her expression) is clearly not having fun in these shots.

just wonder how does all this accord with her desire to have a family? 

Girl piked up a pose of slut for photo and got the "right" response. 

Or it's really to make you think girl is attractive it's nessesary to send such kind of photos

 

[Bruno]

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Desperatation may stem from the fact that she's geographically undesirable, and knows it. Who wants to travel to Kyrgistan anyway?
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Man who have married a woman from Bishkek ( city of "sensuality"), Kyrgyzstan :

Stephen. Erangey. ,San Pedro, California. / Josh Lachman, California / Cory., California, USA. / David L.Harrowfield, New Zealand / Mike,USA / Paul, UK / Curt, USA / Tom, USA / Vernon, United Kingdom / Iain. Wales, United Kingdom. / Tim . USA / Agus from Indonesia / Robert, Canada / Stephen , Barrington, NH, USA / Eric Estelle, California,  USA / Scott Sievert, U.S.A. / Mike Barcus,  Hackettstown, New Jersey, USA / Jim Balsover, USA / Charles Ranson. Australia. / Garry Evanson, England  / John Paulson, California,  USA / Allan Hobdell, Cairns, Queensland, Australia.

Bishkek is one of the more big city from Kyrgyzstan, with international airport, hotel, ... all needed ... Kyrgyzstan people are a mix between russian and asian, culturel side very interesting...

If you are ready to travel to Moscow, i don't see why it is not possible to travel to Bishkek... And for visa, it is very easy... you buy it for 60$ at airport ...

"Consular service uses a simplified order of drawing documents' registration at entry and departure from KR of foreign citizens through "Manas" airport, ensures a decision of practical questions of official entry and departure of foreign citizens, as well as of foreign tourists. Registration and issue of visas to the foreign citizens and persons without citizenship, arriving to Kyrgyz Republic through "Manas" International Airport is carried out upon their arrival to a check-point. The argument for issue of visas is a valid foreign passport or its demountable document, issued by competent bodies of a country of citizenship or permanent residence." http://www.airport.kg/eng/helpfulinfo.htm

Link : http://www.iaqi.com/kyrgyzstan/

All is possible in Bishkeck... same reserve plan with local marriage agency ( svetlana bride ) ... Anatoli, a retired military man can help you for organize your trip :cool:


 

[Photo Guy]

Elen,
I think you are saying that her letter is 'too composed'
and is obviously written to attract as many men as possible.
The letter looks 'formulaic'? Yes. I do not find her photo and
letter attractive. I would not write to her. You saw my
analysis. I was joking about the 'excellent photography'.
Do you think her letter was completely written by someone else?
Any woman who cannot write her own letter is pathetic,
although a translation may be required.    -doug

[Photo Guy]

I agree with jb on this one. I would not label her a slut.
She feels uncomfortable, based on her expression. The photographer
probably said 'Let's try this pose'. It may not be her idea.
I found most of her ideas in her letter attractive. I do not know
what Elen finds horrible. I would like to see some rough edges,
like 'I am not a morning person' or 'I can be moody', but that may
trun off a lot of men. She could say 'I hate capitalists' or 'I
yearn for the old days of cummunism' but she is probably too
desperate to be that honest. In the long run, honesty is the
best policy. If she hates beer-drinkers with long hair, she should
say so. For her own good.  
     By the way,   Rule #1:
Never make fun of a woman's body.
It's disrespectful.

[Elen]

I found most of her ideas in her letter attractive. I do not know what Elen finds horrible

Horrible??? Nothing!  ALL is VERY right. That's a problem. " I'm so fine, I'm so perfect, I'm so honest, I'll make you dreams come true -  blah-blah-blah.

Want to swallow a ledger-bait? let's go I'll not stop you:D

(honestly Photo Guy I wonder how such credulous guy like you could grew up in the shadow of New York)

 

[jb]

Elen,

Don't you think the profile was a bit too contrived?  I'm sure what is written was coached by someone with a sales background.  After all, the girl is only 23 years old.

If I were a 35 y.o. single guy, I'd lend no credence to 90% of what that profile reveals.   I would read into this is;  we have here a very attractive 23 y.o. girl, who for whatever reason, has little or no prospects for what she views as her life's goal, i.e., a prosperous, happy, solid, family of her own in her hometown area.  Like many of the people right here in this board, she has decided to expand her search area to include places she might find interesting or  advantagous.  I see nothing wrong with that.

The wording of the profile text is simply designed to put the best face on a dismal situation.  I'm sure that if you, or any of the other FSU ladies here, would spend a few hours with this girl, you would have written something better, something that sounds more mature, and we'd have a completely different picture of this young girl.  As it is, she is 23 y.o., and the profile text reveals the immaturity.  She wants to appear perfect because that's what she thinks men want to read.

[Elen]

I would like to see some rough edges, like 'I am not a morning person' or 'I can be moody', but that may trun off a lot of men. She could say 'I hate capitalists' or 'I yearn for the old days of cummunism' but she is probably too desperate to be that honest. 

I'm not such desperate so I'll add that into my profile

I am not a morning person 

I can be moody

I hate capitalists

I yearn for the old days of cummunism

:D:D:D

 

[Elen]

Don't you think the profile was a bit too contrived?

Agree

I always wondered who did read that profiles at all???

Any way I think you make you chose only by photo and well may be such information as ages, wants fun or marriage, wants(has)  kids or not. Just only dry bio nothing more, All other is just a fog for males minds

[jb]

I guess I was just trying to say we shouldn't place too much importance on an image that was captured in 1/120th of a second, during a small portion of one day of this girl's whole life. Other than the clothes, directions by the photographer, a little stratgic lighting, can we say we really know anything about this young woman by looking at the pictures?  I think not.  

These images were taken in the space of moments, and are meaningless in the overall context of this person's life.  A photograph will not reveal a person's inner self, their character, good or bad heart, if she will become a good spouse, a great sexual machine, or a hobo-sexual,,,, basically nothing.  I think this is why we discourage men from falling in love with a photograph, he will always be disappointed when faced with the real thing.  Nothing can top a fantasy.

That's why I said what I did.  How would you like to be judged for the rest of your life by a single bad photo session?  Scary thought, isn't it?

[Bruno]

One more profile... now, she search a man from 40 to 70 year old ... now, i am too young for her :X...

http://myrussiandreams.com/ladies_pages/marina__bogdanova.htm ( 9 photo's )

Other

http://www.allbeauties.net/profile/LI17326 ( 3487 view !!! )

http://www.matchforyou.net/Russian-Dating-Bishkek-Marina-15304-9-Rate.htm

http://www.bemylove.net/profile/LI17326

http://allbrides.ru/bycountry/ladies/84/9475P1.htm ( profil from 2003 !!! )

[jb]

All these profiles are identical, it makes me wonder about sites that steal profiles and photos which they believe they can make money from.  I really doubt this young girl knows what is happening to her online bio data.  She probably signed up with a single agency never knowing she'd be plastered all over the internet in this fashion.

I could be wrong, (I've been wrong too many times in the past).  She may be an Internet whore, but I wonder if she knows the extent of this.  In any case, she's getting a lot of exposure, I hope she finds what she's looking for.

[Bruno]

JB, she have not really a lot of profile... one woman who have post a ads on my site was surprised when i have say that she have more of 50 profile... she have post his profile in a local agency in Ukraine but these agency was closed when the owner have married a man from Canada...

Find the profile was not the big work... remove them was difficult... some agency have remove it without problem, other have ask a copy of his passport... but several have refuse... she have always 13 ads running where man pay for contact information who are no more accurate... she live in a other city, she have change her fixe phone for a mobile and she have now her own e-mail address ( don't use anymore her old one from mail.ru )...

Now, she is afraid to be listed in some black list because of the false contact data shell by agency...

[Elen]

 

I really doubt this young girl knows what is happening to her online bio data

Yeah? And I think if girl goes to professional photo salone and makes such kind of photosession she does know the real goal of her "profile" in the Net:?


(if she has not a light idea about what's going on then she has nothing exept long legs)

[Bruno]

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As for pictures. The agency requires good professional pictures and they never put a girl on the site with bad amateur pictures. At first I was indignant at it - it's a deceit, but they persuaded me in a contrary. I understood that only experienced people worked in the agency who knew how to do better, we could trust them. What happened later you know. Now I can say I don't envy pretty women. I tried it. The beauty attracts a lot of men and many of them like to have a doll near them., but what is inside isn't important... Really the problem of our century is that nobody is interested in inner person's beauty. A beautiful picture attracts us, people like to see around only beautiful things and beautiful people too... I only year on the Internet or a year, somehow, but at me already am what experience. And unfortunately, it not good...
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No, these words are not from Marina... but they are from Galana in the begin of our relation when i have ask why her photo on the internet was so sexy...

It was not his choice, but these of the agency... she have need the agency for search a man but the agency have need sexy photo for make money...

Result, during 3 year, she have only receive proposition of sex tourist and sex maniac... until she know me  ...

Don't judge Marina on her photo, certainly it is the choice of the agency... And the same about the text of her ads... if someone have some interest in these lady, let's go... ask more about her, ask photo of normal life... and don't be worry about place she life, about backup plan, about trip, ... if someone build a serious relation with her, i am sure that a lot of people on these forum will be able to give you all info needed for a stay in Bishkek... airline, reserve marriage agency, visa, ambassy info, tourist information, ....

Only problem, i am not sure that she have placed herself her ads ... Dan, have you log with IP... maybe we can check it, and if the result is good ... guys, you can begin write to her... when the result is negatif , it is the bad joke of somebody other and we can close the topic...

[Elen]

but they persuaded me in a contrary.

 

Yeah! That's the thing because I don't  "accept" such kind of acquaintances. Almost each step at that way is just "athwart" to all your "morals" you were taught.

You're forced to make photos you would never do in right mind, you should write in your letters only what opposite side wishes to hear, you should put you pride in some "place" and be nice with a man who's meeting with 10s others girls in the same time, in order to win his heart (well I think about other organ but can't post such words here:?) you should jump into his bed after couple dates as he has not time to stay next to you for more long time, and after you win the prize you shoulf forget all your past for the sake of better adaption at new place.

I would ask too high price for all that:D:D (but not only a house with a pool)

 

 

[Bruno]

Helen, the "They" was not about the man but about the people who have work in the agency she have use...

And not all western man are people who think about sex or lie... i have write to Galina about all i think, i have send my more bad picture ( work clothes, beard, white hair, fat... ), i have explain that i have not a lot of money, that i have no car and own no house... it is my honesty who have seduce her...

Do you find that it is normal that russian man say to a 31 yo woman, that she is too old... Galina cannot find a man in Ukraine because she is a old ladies ... in our country, several woman begin think to marry only around 35 yo...

The problem is not the western man but the business model of some marriage agency...

[Elen]

Actually "They are not only bad agencies but the RULES of that game.

It does not matter if "import guy" is good or bad girl just has to accept the rules of the game if she wants to get somebody from aboard. A guy may appear very good (or very bad) person but it's another story. At first girl has to go through all this.

(i'm about dating which started trough photos and letters)