Yet another bonbon eating dis-satisfied AW reporter that knows what's best

[acrzybear]

Mail-order brides in an Internet age

BONNIE ERBE

 
Let's not just make it tougher for American men to hook up with "mail order brides" over the Internet and import them, let's ban the practice altogether.

In one of the more laudable acts of his tenure in the White House, President Bush earlier this year signed into law the "International Marriage Broker Regulation Act of 2005" or IMBRA. The law imposes some tough restrictions on men seeking to import wives. Some of the men complain the law presumes all such American men are abusers.

But I say the mere act (to wit, the bizarre act) of deciding to marry someone from a foreign country who is just about guaranteed to be less well educated and a lot less well off financially, creates such an incurably unhealthy imbalance of power in the union,even horrifically burdensome regulation won't suffice.[/b]

The law requires before any foreign woman's contact information is sold (by an Internet marriage broker) to an American man, he must disclose his criminal and marital background. It also requires the agency brokering such relationships to obtain the man's record from the National Sex Offenders Public Registry database, translate it into the woman's native language and give her a copy.

An Internet search for the words, "mail order brides abuses" brings up articles entitled, "A license to Abuse" and "Mail Order Misery" among many others. Tales of brutalized and murdered women are legion. The situation is not new, although the Internet is clearly increasing opportunities for men to find developing-nation wives (very few so-called mail order marriages if any are between American men and women from other developed nations.)

The New York Times reports, "In 1998, fewer than 2,500 foreign women applied to become permanent residents under the Violence Against Women Act [of which IMBRA is a part] which allows abused wives to apply for residence without the support of their husbands. In the fiscal year that ended in September, 9,500 applied." That's a 400 percent increase in six years. The paper quotes the INS saying some 37,500 women entered the country last year on fiancee visas or temporary visas for spouses of American citizens - up 50 percent from three years before.

A 1993 Yale Law Journal article described several cases of unimaginable abuse including the tale of one Maria who came to the United States from the Dominican Republican to marry a man who began brutalizing her shortly after they married.

"I had eight stitches in my head and a gash on the other side of my head, and he broke my ribs. . . . He would bash my head against the wall while we had sex. He kept threatening to kill me if I told the doctor what happened."

Who pays these women's health care bills when their husbands beat and abandon them? Most likely, the American taxpayer.

I don't assume all such marriages end badly. Perhaps many last long and end blissfully "until death doth them part." nice little dig there That aside, it still seems a bizarre and unappealing choice for an American man to set out to marry a woman on the basis of a preconceived notion that she emanates from a submissive culture. And submissiveness is key, as the men portrayed in the Times article make clear. I've heard many things said about Russian women, but submissive was not one of them

" It all started with women's lib'," said Sam Smith, a former salesman of insurance and mutual funds, who founded I Love Latins in Houston six years ago. 'Guys are sick and tired of the North American me, me, me attitude.' "

Two thoughts in closing. We are already a nation divided on mass immigration with polls showing more and more Americans want limits to the number of foreigners granted citizenship. Do we really want another 40,000 plus people entering the United States per year to satisfy men who cannot seem to find suitable mates among America's already copious supply? And, if the mail order marriage industry is so great for women, then why aren't American women flocking to the Internet to find foreign husbands?

This is one growing phenomenon that our government ought not to endorse.
 
I'm going to out on a limb here and guess this reporter is
1) a Democrat
2) lives alone with several cats
3) has a freezer full of Ben & Jerrys ice cream
4) hasn't been on a date for at least six months.
5) Has Gloria Steinem's home phone number

[viking]

http://www.pbs.org/ttc/host.html

Some bio info

[Bruno]

BONNIE ERBE

Now, i really understand why so much American seek a foreign bride !!!

[Rvrwind]

ROTFLMAO
Yep Bruno, the plague of western man - western woman!!!

[acrzybear]

Now, i really understand why so much American seek a foreign bride !!!

Aside from her views, she is rather manly looking. 

[TexasBoar]

Wasn't this article linked to in a recent thread already? Seems I remember someone digging up a not-unsurprising tidbit about MS. Erbe's grandmother comparing marriage to slavery. 

Apple, tree.

~Boar

[Bruno]

Wasn't this article linked to in a recent thread already? Seems I remember someone digging up a not-unsurprising tidbit about MS. Erbe's grandmother comparing marriage to slavery. 

Apple, tree.

~Boar

Yep, i am the guilty... it was in a topic started by Dan ( i think )...

[Admin]

Yep, i am the guilty... it was in a topic started by Dan ( i think )...

Topic found here --> Click Here.

- Dan

[acrzybear]

GGGeeeezzzz! Just when I thought I was going to the head of the class   This article was printed in the local paper today, so foolish me thinking it was new ???

[Admin]

GGGeeeezzzz! Just when I thought I was going to the head of the class   This article was printed in the local paper today, so foolish me thinking it was new ???

Hey - You done good. That tripe written by a frigid (and frustrated) AW was worth appearing twice on the board. No problem at all.

- Dan

[andrewfi]

So, a woman who is critical of what your peers do is automatically " frigid (and frustrated)"
It seems unlikely that one would be both frigid and frustrated at the same time (in a sexual context -about the only way to read those words). But there is probably at least one man who might disagree with them in any context - her husband, for yes, this 'frigid and frustrated' woman is married.

She does have a thing about overpopulation and the contribution made by immigration. It looks as though she takes the Sierra Club line on the issue: Immigration is not bad per se, but it has an effect upon the living space that has become intolerable.

[Admin]

So, a woman who is critical of what your peers do is automatically " frigid (and frustrated)"
It seems unlikely that one would be both frigid and frustrated at the same time (in a sexual context -about the only way to read those words). But there is probably at least one man who might disagree with them in any context - her husband, for yes, this 'frigid and frustrated' woman is married.

She does have a thing about overpopulation and the contribution made by immigration. It looks as though she takes the Sierra Club line on the issue: Immigration is not bad per se, but it has an effect upon the living space that has become intolerable.

Yes Andrew - an AW who writes ignorantly about an entire class of people is, indeed, "automatically frigid (and frustrated)," at least, in the pejorative sense. It is precisely the same way that you claim that all agencies and all women who work with agencies are automatically part of your "dirty barrell" theory.   

I am afraid I will need to defer to your superior knowledge of the incompatibilities between frigid and frustrated in a sexual context.

- Dan

[Michelangelo]

...to satisfy men who cannot seem to find suitable mates among America's already copious supply?

Already copious supply?  American women?  HA!

Sounds like what Detroit used to say about auto imports :-)

So we passed laws to limit the competition.

Deja-vu !

[Bruce]

6.  She is married to a closet homo.

[viking]

We are all a culmination of our life experiences. That is what makes each of us unique. Something happened to her and that experience(s) makes her who she is today.
Need to find the root of the problem. Cause and effect.

[acrzybear]

We are all a culmination of our life experiences. That is what makes each of us unique. Something happened to her and that experience(s) makes her who she is today.
Need to find the root of the problem. Cause and effect.

Good point viking, I'm guessing she wasn't asked to the prom in high school and was never asked to play reindeer games with the others

[LatinSwede]

Before my petition was apporoved I had to sign this blue sheet confiriming that I don't have a criminal record, not convicted of any of the listed offences like trafficking, spousal abuse, robbery, murder, etc.  It was rediculous, but I got it out of the way.

She has another appointment in Kiev, because I forgot to include my financial information (aka got a decent job and can afford her, etc).  She's got everything now, and I sent it to her and the embassy case officer.  Despite all this trouble, I'm still glad I didn't settle for whatever silly redneck female threw herself at me over the years.

I agree that it's angry jealous American women pushing this.  To many AW's just the fact your male, means your a potential abuser and/or a sexual predator.

[acrzybear]

I agree that it's angry jealous American women pushing this.  To many AW's just the fact your male, means your a potential abuser and/or a sexual predator.

I know what you mean I have extremely high standards for a potential mate;

1) has to have a full set of natural teeth
2) cannot have been in jail (I've been to jail, but not in)
3) must be intelligent enough to have a conversation regarding a
    variety of subjects (soap operas and cosmo don't count)

and most important
must be able to deal with me

[viking]

Good point viking, I'm guessing she wasn't asked to the prom in high school and was never asked to play reindeer games with the others

And not to take her side, but maybe her father was abusive to her mother?

[Louie]

Aside from her views, she is rather manly looking. 

            Not the type of gal you would grab on the ass in a dark ally!

[viking]

            Not the type of gal you would grab on the ass in a dark ally!

More like the 'do not touch with a 10 foot pole' type.

[Bruno]

Good point viking, I'm guessing she wasn't asked to the prom in high school and was never asked to play reindeer games with the others Roll Eyes Smiley

And not to take her side, but maybe her father was abusive to her mother?

In high school, she was with a boy friend during 3 year...

After this, she have find a man and marry him... no children and divorce after a little more that 5 year...

She is married with her actual husband for more of 11 year...

She don't like hunting, specially when hunting gooze... She don't agree with her actual husband specialy when these find not normal that a women receive 25% of the fortune of a man when these man have ask divorce after having discover that his wife was cheating... and a lot of more story...

Maybe not a bad woman but she work in media... Money is only make with strong story... Not sure that what she write for media is really what she think... everything is like a show !!!

[viking]

In high school, she was with a boy friend during 3 year...

After this, she have find a man and marry him... no children and divorce after a little more that 5 year...

She is married with her actual husband for more of 11 year...

She don't like hunting, specially when hunting gooze... She don't agree with her actual husband specialy when these find not normal that a women receive 25% of the fortune of a man when these man have ask divorce after having discover that his wife was cheating... and a lot of more story...

Maybe not a bad woman but she work in media... Money is only make with strong story... Not sure that what she write for media is really what she think... everything is like a show !!!

Bruno
When money talks.....we know what happens next.

[andrewfi]

Dan, you know exactly the true context of the words you used and to try to claim otherwise is simply dishonest and insulting to your readers!

You were seeking to insult a woman, whose ideas you disagree with, by crude allusion to her sexuality. You know it, you are much too bright to mistake the context of the words. I expect better of you than that.

[Admin]

Dan, you know exactly the true context of the words you used and to try to claim otherwise is simply dishonest and insulting to your readers!

You were seeking to insult a woman, whose ideas you disagree with, by crude allusion to her sexuality. You know it, you are much too bright to mistake the context of the words. I expect better of you than that.

Andrew,

I was not "dishonest" with anyone. I fully believe my pejorative description of that author is every bit as valid as her characterization(s) in her article. Tit for tat.

In any case, it is hardly worth anyone getting their knickers in a twist, IMO - though I do recognize that some have a propensity (innate or agenda-driven?) for making mountains out of molehills.

- Dan