Large age difference

[Michelangelo]

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I live in a district of Tver that is just over flowin' with plenty of good lookin' ladies over thirty & some real babes between 25 & 30. Anything younger than that is nothin' more than an arm candy toy. [/size][/color][/font]

This is true....I learned from experience that under 25 just does not work.  In letters, it does.  But in person, they are still students and have not experienced real life.

[ConnerVT]

My favorite hobby is standing on the balcony & watchin' the babes go by. Sometimes my wife joins me & even points them out to me,:), I got a good one.

Do you mean a good woman, or a good balcony? 

I've seen both, and you're doing pretty good for yourself there, Cowboy... 

[BC]

Thinking about children serving as 'glue' in a relationship is not the way to go imho.

hey.. even rhymes.

[Michelangelo]

Thinking about children serving as 'glue' in a relationship is not the way to go imho.

hey.. even rhymes.

I agree...
but that was not what I meant when I wrote

"When I look at an agency profile, I first look at single women without chiildren who want children. I think having children together will help connect the marriage even more."

"Helping connect" is not the same thing as "glue."

I agree with you because it is important for the man/woman relationship to be supreme, and children of second importance.  That makes a win/win situation, because a happy marriage cretes happier kids who are not "spoiled" -- which happens when kids become of the highest priority.

[Seekandfind]

hmmm....

[Maxx]

My favorite hobby is standing on the balcony & watchin' the babes go by. Sometimes my wife joins me & even points them out to me,:), I got a good one.

No shortage of good lookin' mature women here and thats a fact.

RVR

Canadian Cowboy

Richard I will have to bring you some 10X power binoculars when I come. In fact 3 sets for me, you and Valya.

Maxx

 

[Rvrwind]

Richard I will have to bring you some 10X power binoculars when I come. In fact 3 sets for me, you and Valya.

LMAO, You do that David & I'll buy the Vodka;)

RVR-Canadian Cowboy/Agency Owner

[Warren]

Guys: Age is just a number. What is important is "biological age". According to all available medical tests, my biological age is 50 but I am a lot older. My outlook is much younger also. 

    I married a 35 yr. old Ukraine gal. I found out later she was a "nut" i.e. bipolar.  She was very aggressive, fights, striking, etc. I got rid of her after 4 months. She went back to Ukraine.  While still married to me, she went the marriage agency route again and married a Los Angeles guy that lasted 6 months (Visa Whore). I later found her on several marriage agencies and I told them she was a "nut" and bigamist.  They removed her profile.  Needless to say, I am being very, very careful.

         W.

 

[anono]

yeah, this age question is getting old..  and useless..  there are, uh, billions of people on this planet and golly, not all of them think like americans...

i am 49, soon to be 50. my girl is 22, soon to be 23

she is a walking heart..  a heart with legs..the sweetest, most wonderful girl i have ever met.

ask her if age is a problem

some of these young women are worried they are too young for you and you will not accept them. i have never been told "you are a dirty old man" like i have heard from young american girls..these women here are not that rude and uncivil.

and no, i am not talking agency girls..i live here (kiev). i do not meet many agency girls anymore...

[TigerPaws]

Good for you anono,

 I would join you if I were single and if it was not for the cold.

 

[Photo Guy]

Anono wrote:
 i am 49, soon to be 50. my girl is 22, soon to be 23      she is a walking heart..  a heart with legs..the sweetest, most wonderful girl i have ever met.

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[color="darkred"][size="3"]When you  become 70, she'll turn ...43.  ...blah, blah, blah.   So?  You've found a WONDERFUL woman. Good for you.  Maybe  you'll have 'issues' at age 70, but in the meanwhile you'll probably  have the BEST years of your life.  That's something that we can't  measure, can't quantify. There are no guarantees in life.  Some  may argue that you are taking an extreme risk, with that age gap. So?  Which risks are acceptable and which are not?[/size][/b][/color]

[Turboguy]

I have to agree with you Anono.  I just got off the plane from Kiev an hour ago.   I will take a shot at my first trip report ever in the next day or so.  One of the gals I met down in Nikalaev was 26.   She had married a guy 5 years older then her and he stuck around for 2 years and one child.   When she is 65 her ex will be 70 but what good will that do.   A guy a lot older is going to appreciate her and stick around.  Maybe twenty years later it will be an issue, but that would still be 18 more than she got with a guy close to her age.   I will add that it won't be me.  That one did not go well.

[alenika]

It was never a problem finding a young and beautiful Russian woman to marry. And I think once guys realize they will have their choice of many fine young beautiful Russian women that they will get serious and look for a woman who is just as beautiful on the inside as she is on the outside. One they have a great chemistry with. And again, that usually takes work, or that ole dumb luck.

I don't think this is a luck to find a partner who is so much younger. I think this is absence of luck - as age difference creates problems. Among those -  to be able make your partner happy to make her or him not to notice this age difference and what would be the most important for me - is that I use youth of my young partner, waste it maybe - while he could meet young girl and also be happy with someone with whom will go through all stages of life and also will be with a young partner and also enjoy moments of being with someone young. I hate being a user or to have trade relationship - that's why age difference would be unacceptable for me - especially with someone much younger me. Actually as I am a woman - 1 year younger also would bea problem.

[Photo Guy]

[size="3"][color="darkred"]Why does a  couple need to go through all of the stages of life together? I  question that requirement. Every couple must decide what is important  in their relationship. It appears to me that every couple has different  needs and characteristics.[/color]
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[alenika]

Maybe they shouldn't, but I think a normal and giving person wouldn't want woman whom he loves to refuse of those things he considered good when he was young. That is, if he liked to have fun out with others then I doubt it's justful to take a young girl and to make her refuse of that funhe had when was young.

Or if girl is the one who is serious from young age already and doesn't want this fun and wants a normal family, kids and soon - why does she need to do this together with some old man who was not serious all his life?

It's better to meet and marry a young guy who is also serious from young age. And there are such guys, no less than serious girls in their ages. Why some serious girl should marry one who was not serious all his life and had fun all his life? There is no guarantee someone can understand something in 70 if he couldn't understand things in 30. It's even hardly possible that this understading will come with age. People are either mature or never "really mature". And if they are seekign for someone 25-30 years younger deliberately - it's completely immature behaviour. Just try to find basements for this search? Besides desire of someone to have kids finally - there are no sound, or mature, reasons.

[Bruno]

some of these young women are worried they are too young for you and you will not accept them. i have never been told "you are a dirty old man" like i have heard from young american girls..these women here are not that rude and uncivil.

and no, i am not talking agency girls..i live here (kiev). i do not meet many agency girls anymore...

Difference of age... i have think before that it was one of the reason of my previous missluck marriage... but i begin think that i was wrong...

Age difference become a problem when other problem have already appear...

Now, i have more that 10 year difference with my actual girlfriend... not a agency girls, a anti-date girls ... i have know her one year ago, chat and write each other and become friend... several month, i have think she was a boy  ( yep, i have never ask her before )... these friendship have allow us to know each other, to speak about think that you don't always speak with your future wife... and of course, language is not a problem, she speak Dutch ( one national language of Belgium ), and english ( she is translator for a american firm )...

In these case, i have not take care of the difference of age... only time and two common language have help to build a strong relation... these age difference have can be a problem for me if i have try to start directly a love relation... now, it is only a detail in my actual case...

 

[Turboguy]

I think you make some good points alenika.  In a perfect world it would be nice to go through all the stages of life with someone the you love and enjoyed being with.  In reality, how often does that happen?   I would bet not often.   Half the marriages end in divorce and for a girl in Russia who is 20 and marries her boyfriend who is 21, the odds are he will not live to go through all the stages of life with her.   Here and there people who are married for 50 years or more are rare and will be even more rare with the younger generations.

The girl I mentioned in my last post married a man 5 years older.  He lost his job two months later and would not look for work.  He sat and played computer games all day.   She now looks for someone with more maturity and more stability. 

Here in America there seems to be fewer women looking for older men.  When I was 50 the three girls I dated in America that year were 21, 30 & 21.  Now I can't find someone 10 years younger than me in America that is interested in me.  All the 50 year old American women are looking for 21 year old boyfriends.   I see it being much more difficult to find younger women in the FSU as well.   Most of the profiles I see are looking for a guy 5-10 years older.   There are still a few girls who don't care about age difference but you must look hard to find them.

I was just engaged to a girl from Russia who was much younger.  It did not work out but the age difference was never a factor or did not appear to be.  I think it is an individual thing.  Some women want a younger man, some who have had a bad expereince with a younger man want a more mature and stable man.   Another girl I write now, who I belive was from Bruno's site had her heart broken by a younger man.  She was engaged to a young guy and he left her for another woman.  She too, is looking for someone who will never leave her.  An older guy will not roam and will treasure her forever.   A large age difference is not for everyone.  Many guys like Bruno want a more settled and mature woman.  My former fiancee had the emotional maturity of a 12 year old.  If I thought all young women were like that, I might change my mind too, and I will add that I don't rule out older women than what I often date.  I think when you get a very attractive woman in their late 30's and in their 40's there is more competion becasue there are a lot of guys who want a beautiful woman close to thier age and a lot of the FSU women do not age well. 

You do make some good points and what you say is right for you and for many people.

[TigerPaws]

 I am going to agree with Photo Guy, age is only one of many factors in a relationship. With a 19 years age difference between my lady and myself I am sure some issues will come up after I am in my 70's, ok that is over 20 years from now and as Photo Guy said I will have had the best years of my life with a wonderful woman. As long as both people are happy in the relationship and are willing to work together damn near anything is possible.

 On a more selfish note; having a 20 plus year run in a relationship is something to be said in todays world and having someone who cares for you in your later years is something we should be thinking about as none of us are getting any younger. I know some of you are thinking she could always pick up and leave when I am 75 and she is 56, but is that really an option? Maybe buy highly unlikely because at that age her options are far more limited than when she is in her 30' and early 40's.

[Turboguy]

Yep, I agree with you TigerPaws.   Besides when you do kick the bucket she will still not only be young enough but rich enough she will be able to go after the guys in their 20's and not have to worry if they can support her in the lifestyle to which you have gotten her accustomed.

[alenika]

[user=134]Photo Guy[/user] wrote:

Why does a couple need to go through all of the stages of life together? I question that requirement. Every couple must decide what is important in their relationship. It appears to me that every couple has different needs and characteristics.

Aha... Some couples need a trade - to exchange money or country for youth, for example. This is what I told - not giving but user attitude.

And this is what I was writing about - for me personally this would be unacceptable to be in a trade relationship. Either it is for money, or to for country. But this would be even worse for me to be in a relationship with a younger guy - either for my money, or my experience. In case of money - I just wouldn't like trade relationship - where each part seeks to use another. In case of my experience (I speak hypothetically of course) when this guy would reall think that loves me - I'd not let such relationship even start and would stop it on early stage - because I don't want to use another just because he is naive, innocent and doesn't know that is being used.

[alenika]

I was not talking about chances that things will work. I was talking if two people will be happy in relationship or no. And if they will be happy because of each other, or because they have no other options.

[BC]

There are very few women who really enjoy being in the company of an older man.. even in RU.  Many may compromise and compensate with other factors such as wealth or prestige, but if so be aware that her true preferences surely lie elsewhere.

Actively seeking a woman much younger who has had absolutely no experience with older men is asking for even more trouble on top of an already difficult venture.

[TigerPaws]

Actively seeking a woman much younger who has had absolutely no experience with older men is asking for even more trouble on top of an already difficult venture.

BC,

 Generally I agree with you, which is why I highly suggest men look for ladies no younger than 25 who have been divorced for at least a year or more. Of course careful selection is important as you do not want to choose someone with a great deal of personal baggage (like someone who was seriously abused) and of course if she has a child that would be a decision as to how old the child is and if you want or do not want any more children.

 

 

 

[KenC]

There are very few women who really enjoy being in the company of an older man.. even in RU.  Many may compromise and compensate with other factors such as wealth or prestige, but if so be aware that her true preferences surely lie elsewhere.

Actively seeking a woman much younger who has had absolutely no experience with older men is asking for even more trouble on top of an already difficult venture.

I'll take this idea a step further.  I think there is something wrong when a guy is only considering women of significant age difference.  He should question himself as to why only much younger women are attractive.  Is a trophy wife all that is important?  Hey, I will be the last guy on earth to question that two people of any age can fall in love and live happily together, but if your criteria is such that only a woman half your age is acceptable, you got to wonder about the man's motivation.

Of course most here know I met, fell in love and have been married to a RW 25 years younger for the last 6 years.  That being said, I never targeted that age group nor would I today.  And I don't think that "beauty" is an acceptable excuse because there are many fine looking women even in the fsu in their late 30's and early 40's.

KenC

[Son of Clyde]

The older the age difference the more likely the couples (both people) may not be able to survive the older partners ingrained habits of many years.

My wife seems to believe my life began when she arrived here and the 55 years preceding this were spent in seclusion.

I can safely say I was not a hermit for the first 55 years of my life. I did develop characteristics of a life long single person which drive her up a wall.

We had an argument yesterday over a sweater. I said it was blue and she disagreed that it was not blue. The background was blue with some scattered green designs. I saw a blue sweater she saw something quite different. To me blue was the primary color.

The fact that I misplace things and later can't find them drives her crazy also. I am a packrat.

These things are from over 50 years of thinking about one person. I am trying to think about three people now.