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« Reply #500 on: December 12, 2005, 08:16:09 AM »
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« Reply #501 on: December 12, 2005, 08:30:13 AM »
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 but if your criteria is such that only a woman half your age is acceptable, you got to wonder about the man's motivation.

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 I would like to disagree with you (above), I limited my search to women over 24 and under 30 who were divorced and without children. They had to be slim, intelligent and to my eye very attractive, the ladies were all from Russia and most from Siberia (away from the large cities). Sure I was looking for a life partner but I was also looking for a trophy, as I have often said a man can have both if he chooses well.

 

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« Reply #502 on: December 12, 2005, 08:41:48 AM »
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 the ladies were all from Russia and most from Siberia (away from the large cities). 

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 Where is your wife from? Elena is from Omsk.

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« Reply #503 on: December 12, 2005, 08:44:20 AM »
Tiger,

But why only 24 to 30?  I can certainly understand that a man is attracted to beautiful women, but why not open up the criteria to include women 31 and up?

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« Reply #504 on: December 12, 2005, 08:57:41 AM »
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Tiger,

But why only 24 to 30?  I can certainly understand that a man is attracted to beautiful women, but why not open up the criteria to include women 31 and up?

KenC

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 With unlimited choices why settle for anything less than exactly what you want, why compromise when you do not have to? Besides the available women over 30 who are without children is far smaller group then those between 24 and 30 and I did not want to put up with the "my" child vs "our" child issue. Then there is the attractiveness factor, Ken how many women over 30 could pose for Playboy? Very few so why not go for the gold ring and have it all.

 

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« Reply #505 on: December 12, 2005, 09:28:29 AM »
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Then there is the attractiveness factor, Ken how many women over 30 could pose for Playboy? Very few so why not go for the gold ring and have it all.

 
I disagree.  There are more and more beautiful women over the age of 30.  (I only use that age because it is your benchmark)  This months Maxim has Cindy Crawford on the cover and she is still a knockout (and well over your 30 barrier)  Think about this: By your criteria, you would exclude Angelina Jolie, Selma Hyaek, Halli Barry, Charlize Theron, .....

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« Reply #506 on: December 12, 2005, 09:43:16 AM »
Since I am one of the guys that seem to go after gals with a large age difference I will throw in my two cents worth.   My age range that I look at is 21 to 40.   I do find it easier to find gals I like that are in the under 30 catagory.   One of the factors I like about the younger ones is sorta the reverse to what son of clyde said.   I think a youger gal will adapt quicker to life in America than a gal, lets say 50.  

I have had gals that I found interesting that were closer to the upper range.   One gal that I met at a social and looked hard at doing a fiancee visa with was 38.   One gal I went to Omsk to meet was 36.  Both had teen aged kids.   The 38 year old had a 16 year old gal that was more trouble than I wanted to deal with.  The 36 year old had a teen aged son that was a great kid.  To be honest, if I got involved with someone with a kid or two, I would rather they were younger kids.  A 16 year old girl that is a spoiled brat is going to be a spoiled brat for a long time.   A three year old, like the gal I just met but am not going to persue is going to have an entirely different relationship with you than a 16 year old will. 

I won't say I don't like a beautiful woman, but I never thought of myself as looking for a trophy wife.   Actually the gal I was very interested in before Luda was almost ugly but had enought great qualities that I was happy with her.  I think I made a mistake dropping her for Luda actually.   There is that old calipso song, if you want to be happy man, make an ugly woman your wife.   Well, hopefully there are other ways to be happy.

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« Reply #507 on: December 12, 2005, 09:45:02 AM »
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Then there is the attractiveness factor, Ken how many women over 30 could pose for Playboy? Very few so why not go for the gold ring and have it all.

Several women over 30 are enough financial secure and don't feel the need to show her body for a few $$$... and it is not proved that a woman who don't show her naked body in play-boy is not a attractive and sexy women... and several of these play-boy women are "usual" women when you see them in "natural" , without make-up...

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« Reply #508 on: December 12, 2005, 10:07:41 AM »
I'm just fearful that a newbie reading the last few pages of this  thread are going to think 20-25 year age differences are the  norm.  That would be a bad impression, I think.

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« Reply #509 on: December 12, 2005, 10:35:51 AM »
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 Ken, sorry but all of your examples my be good looking to you but as for me they do nothing to wind my clock (ok maybe Crawford 20 plus years ago but not now).
Ken it is like I said with unlimited choices why compromise, go for the gold ring and have it all.

 
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« Reply #510 on: December 12, 2005, 10:38:34 AM »
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Then there is the attractiveness factor, Ken how many women over 30 could pose for Playboy? Very few so why not go for the gold ring and have it all.
Several women over 30 are enough financial secure and don't feel the need to show her body for a few $$$... and it is not proved that a woman who don't show her naked body in play-boy is not a attractive and sexy women... and several of these play-boy women are "usual" women when you see them in "natural" , without make-up...
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Bruno, please do not take offence but you are missing the point, maybe it is a language issue. Very few women over 30 (over 25 for that matter) have the looks and the body to be able to pose for a publication such as Playboy, it is simply a factor of age, little more.

 

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« Reply #511 on: December 12, 2005, 10:41:43 AM »
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I'm just fearful that a newbie reading the last few pages of this thread are going to think 20-25 year age differences are the norm.  That would be a bad impression, I think.
Agreed! Disclaimer read the complete thread from page 1 before making any judgement about what is the best age difference for you, then think long and hard about what you need, want and desire in a lady.

 
« Last Edit: December 12, 2005, 10:45:00 AM by TigerPaws »

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« Reply #512 on: December 12, 2005, 11:26:31 AM »
Christy Brinkley (a former model who was married to Billy Joel) is about 51 now and looks great.

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« Reply #513 on: December 12, 2005, 11:43:40 AM »
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Christy Brinkley (a former model who was married to Billy Joel) is about 51 now and looks great.

The point is that she looked a lot better at 21 than she dose now at 51, are you saying that you would prefer to sleep with her now or when she was 21?

 

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« Reply #514 on: December 12, 2005, 11:53:53 AM »
It's not the age of the girl, but the connection you feel together that matters.  The main reason I searched for ages 25-33 was that I wanted childen with the women I was to end up with. if you wisely allow a couple of years to live together and get to know one another better as a couple before having children, going past 33 pushes the envelope if you want more than one child.
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« Reply #515 on: December 12, 2005, 12:09:25 PM »
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Christy Brinkley (a former model who was married to Billy Joel) is about 51 now and looks great.
The point is that she looked a lot better at 21 than she dose now at 51, are you saying that you would prefer to sleep with her now or when she was 21?

 
[/quote]If I were single the answer would be yes I would sleep with her now. She looks almost the same at 51 with a few more lines on her face. She looks better than Farrah Fawcett looked at the same age.

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« Reply #516 on: December 12, 2005, 12:10:34 PM »
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It's not the age of the girl, but the connection you feel together that matters. The main reason I searched for ages 25-33 was that I wanted childen with the women I was to end up with. Wisely allowing a couple of years to live together and get to know one another better as a couple, going past 33 pushes the envelope if you want more than one child.

My point exactly men you need to think in the terms of TIME, the time it takes to find then discover if the girl is right for you, then the time it takes to bring her over on a K1, plus the time it will take her to get used to you and her new home. We are talking at a minimum of a couple of years, so if you start out with a girl wh is 30 to 31 do you really want her to be having a child at 35?

 

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« Reply #517 on: December 12, 2005, 12:28:53 PM »
[color="red"][size="3"]'I disagree.  There are more  and more beautiful women over the age of 30.  (I only use that age  because it is your benchmark)  This months Maxim has Cindy  Crawford on the cover and she is still a knockout (and well over your  30 barrier)  Think about this: By your criteria, you would exclude Angelina Jolie, Selma Hyaek, Halle Berry, Charlize Theron, .....[/size][/color]

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[/size][/color][color="#ff0000"][size="4"][color="darkred"]WHO are those women you mention?
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[size="4"][color="#ff0000"][color="darkred"],  I was AMAZED at the number of beautiful women over the age of 30. I  think it's definitely possible to find an attractive woman around age  40 there. I urge newbies to take a good look at those older women. They  have a lot to offer in terms of maturity, emotional stability, [/color][/color][color="#ff0000"][color="darkred"]and  you may have more in common with them. In our society, too much  emphasis is placed on superficial beauty. Haven't you guys ever been  attracted to a woman who was not a 9 or 10? Don't you deserve more than  just a 'trophy'? -doug[/color][/color][/size][color="#ff0000"][size="3"][color="darkred"]

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« Reply #518 on: December 12, 2005, 12:44:28 PM »
[user=134]Photo Guy[/user] wrote:
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When I was in Kiev, I was AMAZED at the number of beautiful women over the age of 30. I think it's definitely possible to find an attractive woman around age 40 there. I urge newbies to take a good look at those older women. They have a lot to offer in terms of maturity, emotional stability, and you may have more in common with them. In our society, too much emphasis is placed on superficial beauty. Haven't you guys ever been attracted to a woman who was not a 9 or 10? Don't you deserve more than just a 'trophy'? -doug

Photo Guy,

 Over 40? Are you kidding? Why bother? Why take on an old maid with grown or near grown children and all of the baggage that will come along with that?

 You are also missing the point, in much of Russian and the Ukraine a man has unlimited choices so why settle for anything less than exactly what you want, need and desire? Ok if you want an old bag with a 16 to 17 year old kid and are willing to put up with a truck load of crap then go for it. As for me; not a chance, I passed up any number of ladies for much less and met with enough to weed trough all but the best (in my opinion). Why settle for second best when you do not have to.

 

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« Reply #519 on: December 12, 2005, 12:59:34 PM »
[user=134]Photo Guy[/user] wrote:
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Haven't you guys ever been attracted to a woman who was not a 9 or 10? Don't you deserve more than just a 'trophy'? -doug

To answer your first question Uh! NO!

Photo Guy; So what is wrong with having a Trophy wife?

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« Reply #520 on: December 12, 2005, 02:00:08 PM »
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Christy Brinkley (a former model who was married to Billy Joel) is about 51 now and looks great.
The point is that she looked a lot better at 21 than she dose now at 51, are you saying that you would prefer to sleep with her now or when she was 21?

 
If I were single the answer would be yes I would sleep with her now. She looks almost the same at 51 with a few more lines on her face. She looks better than Farrah Fawcett looked at the same age.[/quote]
No offence please but to each their own, I would not!

 

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« Reply #521 on: December 12, 2005, 03:41:34 PM »
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 Over 40? Are you kidding? Why bother? Why take on an old maid with grown or near grown children and all of the baggage that will come along with that?


 You are also missing the point, in much of Russian and the Ukraine a man has unlimited choices so why settle for anything less than exactly what you want, need and desire? Ok if you want an old bag with a 16 to 17 year old kid and are willing to put up with a truck load of crap then go for it. As for me; not a chance, I passed up any number of ladies for much less and met with enough to weed trough all but the best (in my opinion). Why settle for second best when you do not have to.

Again, with or without children is another subject all together and not relevant to this discussion.

Do you really think women lose their beauty at 30?  I don't.  In fact, if a woman takes care of herself, I think her prime years of beauty are from 35 to 45.  I certainly would not look at a woman of that age as second best at all.  In fact, with the added maturity, there are many more positives than negatives.

I will say that women from the fsu do tend to "hit a wall" beauty-wise at an earlier age.  Maybe it is because of their more difficult lifestyle or lack of something else.  I don't know.  Another factor is that 7 or 8 years ago, there just wasn't many women available over 30.  That seems to have changed now though.

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« Reply #522 on: December 12, 2005, 03:43:13 PM »
I would sleep with her at 51 without a minutes hesitation.  Of course with my sex life lately, I would probably not kick an 80 year old out of bed, well that might be going a little to far.

Sleeping with someone and marrying someone is two different things.  I have only found a few gals in the last 15 years I would marry.  If I had to feel the same things to sleep with them I would be really horny by now.

 

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« Reply #523 on: December 12, 2005, 05:54:39 PM »
I've been to Ukraine four times and met dozens of women, watched many hundreds pass by on the street and in cafes.

The woman who was by far the most beautiful was 35 years old. It  doesn't hurt that when she wears jeans and a halter she looks to be  about 17. I realize she's a diamond in the rough, but she's not some  pampered US model with a plastic surgeon and a team of personal  trainers on retainer.

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« Reply #524 on: December 12, 2005, 06:25:37 PM »
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I would sleep with her at 51 without a minutes hesitation.  Of course with my sex life lately, I would probably not kick an 80 year old out of bed, well that might be going a little to far.

Sleeping with someone and marrying someone is two different things.  I have only found a few gals in the last 15 years I would marry.  If I had to feel the same things to sleep with them I would be really horny by now.

 

Turboguy,

 While I tend to agree with your second statement I personally would not bother with her, it is just a metter of choices.

 

 

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