Christian Girls

[jb]

How about a good cigar?  Have you outgrown those too?  I occassionally get some good Cubans when I go south to Mexico.  I know I'm not supposed to buy them, but the BP looks the other way when I go to pay the booze tax on the Tequila.

[TigerPaws]

How about a good cigar? Have you outgrown those too? I occassionally get some good Cubans when I go south to Mexico. I know I'm not supposed to buy them, but the BP looks the other way when I go to pay the booze tax on the Tequila.

Sorry jb I do not smoke, never have and never will, again sorry I can not stand to be around people who do smoke.

 

[jb]

"I'm a smoker, a drinker, a f*cker, a fighter, and a sea going SOB".  

Let me know when you want to catch up.  Nobody lives forever.

[Elen]

Well, well, well:D

A topic about Christian girls ended with cigars, rum and whiskey. And these men  accused me in off-topics:P

[BC]

It's friday night Elen.. so it's allowed :D

[jb]

There are no Christian girls available, only girls who want to get married.  They may be Christian, but it has no bearing on the need or wish to get married.

I think 'Slick has this figured out by now.

Religion is not the #1 reason for picking a spouse, if that were true he'd have picked a girl from his local Church long ago.  He wants something different, something exotic, maybe someone with a cute accent, and probably something about 20 y.o. with  a hard body, who can be convinced Amarillo is the seat of American culture.  I don't think he'll find what he wants east of the Danube, but good luck on all counts.

[philb]

I just got home from test driving a Z3 Roadster and am feeling a little feisty.  Some rum and a cigar sounds kind of good right now

[jb]

I also find it highly instructive that the thread starter hasn't been seen here since March 14th, can we write him off now?

Let's get on with our lives and not get distracted by the trivial nonsense

[philb]

He wants something different, something exotic, maybe someone with a cute accent, and probably something about 20 y.o. with a hard body, who can be convinced Amarillo is the seat of American culture. I don't think he'll find what he wants east of the Danube, but good luck on all counts.

Kind of sounds like what I was thinking as I test drove the Z3

[jb]

Yep,, test driving a new car can qualify,,, test driving a new woman is not acceptable.

[TigerPaws]

Yep,, test driving a new car can qualify,,, test driving a new woman is not acceptable.

WHAT? I thought thats what the engagement was all about?

 

[jb]

Naaaaaah~!!!!!

Wrong answer~!

While I respect your retirement rank..I personally think you are full of sh*t, you have no idea of WTF you are talking about. Courting and wooing a RW is a lot tougher than you think.  

I'd advise all men here to ignore your advise and comment and pay closer attention to those of us who have been there and done that.

It ain't easy, but it's possible.......

[TigerPaws]

Naaaaaah~!!!!!

Wrong answer~!

While I respect your retirement rank..I personally think you are full of sh*t, you have no idea of WTF you are talking about. Courting and wooing a RW is a lot tougher than you think.

I'd advise all men here to ignore your advise and comment and pay closer attention to those of us who have been there and done that.

It ain't easy, but it's possible.......

jb,

 Been there done that, married to a wonderful Russian girl going on almost 5 years now (she arrived in America 5 years ago on the 18th of this month) so I do know what I am talking about. If you do a search on the forum you will find our story, if you are too lazy to search for it please PM me and I will e-mail it to you.

[Leslie]

Well I don't want to get involved in any arguments tonight but the best advice you have had is from Dan.  One of my wife's work colleagues is a member of a Baptist congregation.  In fact she organizes and helps play the music.  She is also the choir mistress.  I would describe this congregation as charismatic.  Based on this and other limited experience I will offer you one bit of advice.

DON'T LOOK FOR A WOMAN LIKE THIS AT A MOB AGENCY.

There is no way that any woman in that congregation would register at an agency or publish photos of themselves on the internet.  To do so would risk ostracism by that community.

 

The good news is that several women from this community have expressed an interest in  marrying a foreign guy to my wife.  Of course such a man must share their fundamental beliefs. Don't think you can date or "test drive" (fiancé visa) this type of women at all.  You will court and marry them in their church in Ukraine and then file for a spouse visa.

 

I think the best way of making contact is through the church.  Volunteer for a "goodwill program"  Like Dan, I have met several Americans and Europeans who are doing such voluntary work.  You will have to "rough it" and live with few (if any!) western luxuries but you will certainly learn a great deal about Ukrainian culture very quickly.  Be prepared to experience  real poverty in rural areas. 

 

This isn't going to be easy but if you are looking for fervent loyalty and family values one of these women could redefine your current understanding of these concepts.

 

Les

 

[Amarillo Slick]

Thanks Les, your information was very helpful and encourging. Sorry If I offended any other readers with my questions, I did not intend to do so.

[Photo Guy]

 SNIP
As I understand it, Ukraine is one of the fastest growing Christian mission fields in the world - and I believe it.

All major denominations are represented with missionaries in Ukraine, and most have growing congregations    SNIP
- Dan

Excellent post, Dan. As a 'basic' Christian, I found it interesting to read about the missions in Ukraine. I remember reading how the Baptist
religion was growing there. I had done a google search back in December. I myself would prefer a Christian wife. For Elen, I'd say that it does affect how husband and wife raise their children, because values like forgiveness and the Golden Rule are promoted.  Doug

[Photo Guy]

[user=228]Amarillo Slick[/user] wrote:

I do not understand how it was growing up in the former USSR, but I would like to understand:cool:

How old are you? ...Just curious. The Soviet Union viewed religion as an actual or possible threat to their power structure. Rather than having comrades directed/instructed by both religious leaders and political leaders, the government sought to eliminate any disharmony between the two by promoting atheism. This was a way to eliminate opposition to the government. I know that in Poland, the Catholic Church lived on and survived discreetly. I don't know much about how churches survived in Russian and Ukraine. It's a fascinating topic. I do know that Kiev still has hundreds of old domed churches from the
Princely era.   Doug  

[Amarillo Slick]

Hello Photo Guy,

To answer your question first here we go...I am 38 white male with M.A. education. I kept up with the the Soviet Union only in politics, especialy during Carter's, Reagan's and the Bush I administration and of course recently. I did no keep up with the Christian mission work after the fall of the FSU, but I should have. I do understand how the elimination of religion helps communisim and that is why my Hero Reagan is one of my Heros. I know some churches were allowed to remain, as long as they did not seem to be serious about it (recent pope death excluded, and I don't know why they allowed him and others like him in Poland to remain, maybe to control the religious population, but I don't know, I am not a religious scholar.)

Just from my research this evening, the old religions are not thriving, but the evangical (sects as the FSU refers to them) seem to be thriving. A friend of mine heard on the radio that our basic types of churches seem to be thriving and 85% of the membership seem to be female (that seems hard to believe to me, I will have to verify where he got that information.)

Amarillo Slick

[Amarillo Slick]

OOps, I mentioned politics, please dont flame me again:)

[Elen]

PhotoGuy

I'd say that it does affect how husband and wife raise their children, because values like forgiveness and the Golden Rule are promoted.

Why do you think that those who don't go to any Church teach their children

opposite values?

 

How old are you? ...Just curious. The Soviet Union viewed religion as an actual or possible threat to their power structure. Rather than having comrades directed/instructed by both religious leaders and political leaders, the government sought to eliminate any disharmony between the two by promoting atheism.

I think he is not SUCH old that to look for wife who was born in 20s-30s when that events took place.

To my mind if religions (any of them) were occupied with their own business like to "save souls" and didn't stick noses in such dirty business like politic then they would  have less prolems with government in Russia. (like it was in 70-80s when I was raised. There were Churches, nobody denied people to go there, but nobody tried to   thrust any religion into our head with the help of "official tools" like TV, schools, press and etc.  as well. It was only "private" business )

And BTW I didn't understand what those "both religions"?? What did you mean because we have THREE official religions in Russia

 

[Amarillo Slick]

Did we not talk about this yesterday, but I will let you talk to Photo Guy for his opinion

 

[Elen]

I was busy yesterday and beside when I return here after job I found only a company of guys who were discussing rum and sigars:D

[Amarillo Slick]

Well I do not drink anymore (I was too good at it) and I do smoke a cigar every now and then, but they were not my posts.

I am the guy from Texas "Amarillo Slick" but I do not wish to go thourgh this again, although I did enjoy our conservation. You told me you would help me learn about the FSU's culture, and I would like to learn.:?

[Elen]

I did no keep up with the Christian mission work after the fall of the FSU, but I should have. I do understand how the elimination of religion helps communisim and that is why my Hero Reagan is one of my Heros

Well I hope you will visit Russia and do see by yourself how moral slipped dowm here after the fall of the USSR. May be you then understand that why we have different "Heroes" with you.:?

[Amarillo Slick]

I will be visiting two times a year, just to learn.