Desperate or not? FSU women

[jinx13]

 

Do you meant Ukraine?
Well, this country turns into borthel unfortunatelly, it is not a big secret for anybody now
see Odessa Girls. Part 1/7. Legalised pimping or true love?

 So the whole country has turned into a brothel? Wow, I must have missed that on the International news....I have seen those videos, what do they have to do with Ukrainian women? It's more about some of the a$$hole guys that go over there, and MOB industry tactics, not about the girls. There are bad women and men in every country, why is Ukraine any different?

[Turboguy]

Turboguy,

Boredom is not even on the list of causes for divorce. The first and most common reason for divorce in America is adultry. The second is money problems (almost always due to gross fiscal irresponsibilty), then drug and alchohol abuse, physical/verbal abuse, sexual incompatibilty, and on down the line. 

Well, it may depend on your outlook on things, Wm.    If a signifigant part of the adulty is caused because someone is bored after having the same sex partner for so long or bored because they have lost interest in this person they have shared years and years with then the boredom not the adultry is the main cause.  Boredom could be a factor in several of the other things you mentioned.   Are you saying people can't be driven to drink because they find their wife (husband) and life so boring they look for an escape.

You mean a stylus? 

I don't think I do.  My impression is the stylus came after the needle when we reached the high tech age of 45's and hi-fi.  They did serve the same purpose.  

[Kvinna]

 So the whole country has turned into a brothel? Wow, I must have missed that on the International news....I have seen those videos, what do they have to do with Ukrainian women? It's more about some of the a$$hole guys that go over there, and MOB industry tactics, not about the girls. There are bad women and men in every country, why is Ukraine any different?

why? the growth of demand I suppose

02.02 15:29 MIGnews.com
Два миллиона украинских девушек добровольно уехали заниматься проституцией.
Только за первый месяц нынешнего года украинские борцы с торговлей людьми выявили шесть групп сутенеров и вербовщиков. Об этом на брифинге сообщил начальник Департамента по борьбе с преступлениями, связанными с торговлей людьми, Михаил Андриенко. Сколько сутенеры завербовали и продали за границу девушек - это милиции еще предстоит выяснить.
Известно, что сегодня в нескольких странах мира нелегально работают четыре миллиона украинцев. Половина из них уезжает добровольно, чтобы зарабатывать собственным телом.
Чаще всего среди таких девушек встречаются уроженки Харьковской, Донецкой, Днепропетровской и Волынской областей. Кроме того, стало известно, что в прошлом году за пределы Украины были вывезены на продажу и 52 подростка.

Летом Киев станет Меккой секс-туризма
http://president.org.ua/news/news-102450/
http://www.e-motion.com.ua/sex/2006/11/22/7520.html
http://www.superstyle.ru/news/1230

[Jazzyclassy]

"Don't get into a battle of wits with someone who is only half prepared."
 

exactly , you should have known that:P and broke in with someone who is easier to  be hurt and to  be offend,  who is actually younger than your majesty but that's your nature I guess, but better leave this empty talk , cos at the moment I am not able to understand you and you can not understand me......

you too good luck to you

 to WmGO

My point is this, there are people and people , there are Ukranians  and Ukranians , my experience showed them to be not genuine and chasing their own profitable purposes in communicating with this or that people , using people sometimes if you want
there are of course amazing  Ukranian but I was not lucky to meet them

actually as its been already said there is no bad nation , there are bad people so
just accept it that some people got bad experience with some of the nations that's it

To Turboguy

am not hating anybody , I am peaceful , I just express my opinion. I do not consider myself to be better than anybody,  but I should not consider myself to be worse than all of you here, and people here make me feel so recently which is minus to them

[prince_alfie]

Economics, pure and simple. And Maximum opportunities like in game theory.

[ScottinCrimea]

I have a hard time believing this article's claim that 2 million Ukrainian women are working outside of Ukraine as prostitutes.  That comes out to roughly 5% of the female population.  while I agree that the problem is significant and know several women who ply this trade in Turkey (not in the Biblical sense), I think the problem can be a bit exaggerated sometimes.

[Jazzyclassy]

   Remember my opening post on that other forum which caused so much anger....?   "Generalisations are Generally wrong". 

A line from a famous book, athough many criticise the writer, his words are true, "A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still".  Think about it.  Jazz, I know your value as a person better than most here ever will, but your posts are not living up to the standards of your real qualities.  You can do much better.  Give up on the Ukraine thing until you have spent some time there, you will find it quite different and the people very different from the way you picture right now.

I/O               

Exactly dear  I/O  I know what you've said it is true and I was wrong to actually be honest and too way sincere with those people , and  yeah maybe the pic of those people will change but again how it will change ? if I already found out that it is difficult for me to communicate with such kinda people who press with their opinion and their point of view and their so called wisdom

It is difficult to be opened with these people since they are very very critical and only accept person if he thinks like them or supports their opinion, unfortunately am not so good in expressing my opinion in a different way I am impulsive person but  nobody actually blamed me ever for lack of brains like there catzeammouse did  and some others, though I do not care but its a little out of my  control to ignore it

we are all learning and trying  to communicate  in the most positive way and  it is not only about ukrainians it is about many topics ,  I see no understanding at all here.....

even was asking myself what I was doing wrong for receiving such "pleasent" comments towards myself from the bunch of  women who left Russia and ukraine and think that they are on top of the world now and the best  and from some foreign guys who have no idea about our culture at all . I was really blaming myself and even came up to my dad and asked him , what do you think about my personality  just about me being a person do not think of me as your daughter and he told me just that I am a little too sincere and impulsive and just told it is natural for those people to defend themselves ,he is obviously the same opinion as mine about ukraines.... but no matter, he told just never be sincere with such kinda people cos they will always bring you down and will defend themselves cos they are ukraines,  and it was so silly from my side to try and defend my opinion here, I tried  to do it as being so naive , but will try to avoid such mistakes here.....

actually  it is supposed to be just forum  with laughs and funny and informative things and  I am not obliged to do a confession here

but I did .....

 

[Mir]

JC

'A little sincerity is a dangerous thing, and a great deal of it is absolutely fatal'(Oscar Wild)

[Jazzyclassy]

      Posted on: Today at 04:57:52 PMPosted by: Mir 
                           JC

'A little sincerity is a dangerous thing, and a great deal of it is absolutely fatal'(Oscar Wild)
 

truth, but well if people are always  not sincere  they should not mess up with sincere ones:P

[Mir]

Arguments are to be avoided; they are always vulgar and often convincing (Oscar Wild)

[Zhena]

I feel the same for you and stop telling me who am I and what should I do

am not Armenian my father is Cossack from Rostov on Don

Stop telling me about being stupid awful and so on
, you have  no right to tell me anything

I tell my opinion and my personal experience , I am not asking you to like me , I am standing my ground , and  plus I never insulted you and let it be shame for you to tell such words about the person you do not know

This forum is your life , it seems to me you do not live your real life outside , you are so willing to hurt and to offend people, if you are so high self esteem why then you bring down the ones who have low self esteem??? a?


This words I send back to you sending all negative you told to me back to you. thank you

I wont let somebody to bring me down for my opinion

It seems to me that you are 12 cos you are talking on the same level with me and since I am 12 so what can I say.....

you are a crowd  who is ready to kill anyone who talks and thinks differently


think about it , think about you being civilized......

You know,wehn I see something silly and evil,yes,this irritates me. And you re silly,pardon my french,cos you express just a blind hate which you cant explain properly. You think you re better than *ukraines*?(by the way a proper spelling will be ukrainians) What makes you better huh? Just for your info,my dad is a Don cossak too,so what? I look much more russian than you,so what? I like the russian people sincerely,but when I see someone crazy like you,my first emotion is to say-oh ,shut up! Fortunately,your example wont change my opinion about the russian people. And if you think the forums are a trash can for express your hate and negativiness,be ready to get kick under your butt. The other people dont have to read your bullsh*t.

[Zhena]

My point is this, there are people and people , there are Ukranians  and Ukranians , my experience showed them to be not genuine and chasing their own profitable purposes in communicating with this or that people , using people sometimes if you want
there are of course amazing  Ukranian but I was not lucky to meet them

actually as its been already said there is no bad nation , there are bad people so
just accept it that some people got bad experience with some of the nations that's it

And who are YOU and what are you to estimate those people? What if I will think all russians are just like you? You think you re very good?

[Zhena]

Do you meant Ukraine?
Well, this country turns into borthel unfortunatelly, it is not a big secret for anybody now
see Odessa Girls. Part 1/7. Legalised pimping or true love?

Yeah,and Russia is very different isnt it? Come on,give the statistics about Russia too.

[Zhena]

[/It is difficult to be opened with these people since they are very very critical and only accept person if he thinks like them or supports their opinion, unfortunately am not so good in expressing my opinion in a different way I am impulsive person but  nobody actually blamed me ever for lack of brains like there catzeammouse did  and some others, though I do not care but its a little out of my  control to ignore it

To be opened doesnt mean to be rude-tthere is the huge difference! If you cant express your opinion in the respectful to others way,you always will be beaten,in real too. That shows your lack of brains,nothing else. If you do not care about others feelings,the others wont care about yours as well.

[Kvinna]

Yeah,and Russia is very different isnt it? Come on,give the statistics about Russia too.

of course different, Russia has different visa's policy, so it is not so easy for sex-tourist to come over here. Ukraine is free country for foreign sex-torist and pimps, that is why your country turns into brothel

[Zhena]

of course different, Russia has different visa's policy, so it is not so easy for sex-tourist to come over here. Ukraine is free country for foreign sex-torist and pimps, that is why your country turns into brothel

Dont make me laugh...Or you really think that your visa policy will stop those who wants? It takes just 2 weeks to get it. Didnt you see the number of foreigners on moscows and st.peters streets?

[Kvinna]

Dont make me laugh...Or you really think that your visa policy will stop those who wants? It takes just 2 weeks to get it. Didnt you see the number of foreigners on moscows and st.peters streets?

Of course I see them
but For horny turist 2 weeks are too long for waiting, plus Ukraine is cheapier than Moscow and Peterburg, so your country rules

[Jack]

Kvinna I will only make one statement on this topic and then I'm pakaaaaa.


There are some statistic that their will never be official figures for. 

I will say with 100% certainly to my knowledge and experience,



There is no city in the world with as many beautiful bad girls as Moscow.


p.s.   this is not anything new that I'm just saying now. as some men might be able to verify, I have been saying this for years. and I know you don't want to hear this or believe it kvinna, but I KNOW their is no other city in the world that has as many beautiful bad women as Moscow.

[jinx13]

 Well, there are many free countries, and many are European, why would men only come to Ukraine for sex? You can get sex in any country, including Russia.

[Kvinna]

I will say with 100% certainly to my knowledge and experience,

There is no city in the world with as many beautiful bad girls as Moscow.

mmm Jack, can you imagine what Jim will write tomorrow as soon as he read about your experience?

[SANDRO43]

Come on, give the statistics about Russia too.

Maybe this can partially help : http://www.floriani.it/sitirussi/sitirussipro-eng.htm. The majority of these 159 sites list their girls as based in Moscow, which seems to support Jack's statement .

[Zhena]

Of course I see them
but For horny turist 2 weeks are too long for waiting, plus Ukraine is cheapier than Moscow and Peterburg, so your country rules

Dont be paranoid ok. Not all the foreigner tourists are the sex tourists. I am lazy to look for the statistics about Russia-even its on the first place of the sex tourism,what it changes? Or what it proves? To whom? Will that mean the russian girls are worse or cheaper or somethig else? And I should be proud I am from Ukraine then? Childish.

[Kvinna]

Dont be paranoid ok. Not all the foreigner tourists are the sex tourists.

mmm, The Wive, give please the link where I wrote all turists are sex-tourists

[Kvinna]

Maybe this can partially help : http://www.floriani.it/sitirussi/sitirussipro-eng.htm. The majority of these 159 sites list their girls as based in Moscow, which seems to support Jack's statement .

well, if you are interested in Kiev, then go here http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&newwindow=1&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=escort+Kiev&spell=1

[SANDRO43]

well, if you are interested in Kiev, then go here http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&newwindow=1&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=escort+Kiev&spell=1

Well, Moscow beats Kiev 150-12 and enters World Cup finals .