Different perceptions of RW and UW

[Bruno]

those guys who are fond of ukrainian women will never look for Russian ones, and those ones who look and appreciate Russian women will never even go to that Ukraine and will never even have a slight desire to hit on those women......

I like FSU... don't care about a political border who exist now between two country... I have look, appreciate, marry and divorce a Russian... I am now with a Ukrainian because she have contact me first... if she was Russian, it was the same...

Hey, i like the women from everywhere... maybe not these who are too much black but it is personal taste... the more beautiful lady that i have know was a mix between a Japan father and a African woman... only stay with her one week... i was out of my ligue, she was model...

My point is that a man go where his heart lead him... and love don't know any border !

[55North]

How true Gator.  Commend your trip report on another site by the way.  Kyiv grows on you in it's own right (after 5 visits).  I think a reason why some return to Ukraine is that it has the potential to really develop beyond the restrictions of its past (and present government) as a millenium subject of Russia, which is itself ultimately doomed for inexorable decline on present indicators.  One likes the idea of being related to Ukraine (albeit by marriage).
 
Question, having re-entered the chase, I notice a significant no. of RWs calling from the US and Australia.  OK, I guess they are the divorced from this 'business'.  Is that so?  But why do they register on FSU contact sites.  Is it that men on these sites maybe considered more 'sympathetic' to their culture, etc.  A lady from Sydney has written me, so I guess I have my opportunity for research at least.  But are there any particular reasons?

[El Rock]

I have clearly experienced a difference.
As I stated before , and I have  heard    or read    that others agree  to the  difference  , too.

Here is a email from my  journalist  friend  in Odessa .
I guess it was his  journalist friend   wrote this below.

Paul, this is answer of my German friend, famous journalist and writer
Tatjana Okomenjuk. She knows this subject very good.
 
Различия есть. Украинки более хозяйственные, более породистые, менее претенциозные. Проще подчиняются авторитету  мужчины, реже курят и пьют, чем их российские коллеги, более экономны. И вообще на рынке невест отмечаются знаком качества. Здесь, в Германии, немцы предпочитают их русским.
 
The differences really exist. UW more housewifely, more highbred, not so grandiose. They easily fall into line with husbands, smoke and drink less than RW, more economical. They more prestigious in the FUSSR bride's market, have the highest qualitative attestation. Therefore here German men prefere UW.

[Jazzyclassy]

Here is a email from my  journalist  friend  in Odessa .
I guess it was his  journalist friend   wrote this below.

Paul, this is answer of my German friend, famous journalist and writer
Tatjana Okomenjuk. She knows this subject very good.
 
Различия есть. Украинки более хозяйственные, более породистые, менее претенциозные. Проще подчиняются авторитету  мужчины, реже курят и пьют, чем их российские коллеги, более экономны. И вообще на рынке невест отмечаются знаком качества. Здесь, в Германии, немцы предпочитают их русским.
 
The differences really exist. UW more housewifely, more highbred, not so grandiose. They easily fall into line with husbands, smoke and drink less than RW, more economical. They more prestigious in the FUSSR bride's market, have the highest qualitative attestation. Therefore here German men prefere UW.

hahahaha of course this  nonsense wrote Tatiana Okomenchuk , who is ukrainian, who would have thought she could write something different ah???

if she was russian she would write exactly the same about russians

El Rock , you do not rock here:P

[Nat]

From topic Why I like Ukrainian girls....:

Final attempt:)
Some men are crazy about ukrainians, some about latin america girls, some about asian, some about african and so on
but guys you should remember women are women everywhere they got some special features which are common among all the women nationalities
So while choosing a woman make sure she is what you want in your soul spiritual demandments and not her nationality
nationality does not matter at all
I think it is just the fashion of 21 century to marry wives abroad..........

From topic here:

though I see the difference between Ukrainian and Russian women. But that is already my personal observations and my private point of view

Jazzy, I really don’t understand you. Here you're proving, that difference really exists, in topic Why I like Ukrainian girls.... you're proving, that it doesn't exist. I agree with you completely that nationality doesn’t matter at all. I respect you as a person, because when you appeared here, on this forum, you've posted some reasonable posts in your introductory topic. But after you began to discuss UW/RW your posts became puzzling...

[Jazzyclassy]

From topic Why I like Ukrainian girls....:

From topic here:

Jazzy, I really don’t understand you. Here you're proving, that difference really exists, in topic Why I like Ukrainian girls.... you're proving, that it doesn't exist. I respect you as a person, because when you appeared here, on this forum, you've posted some reasonable posts in your introductory topic. But after you began to discuss UW/RW your posts became puzzling...

I pointed the thing that though all women in the world are similar  in some way , at the same time they are all different, do not you understand?

You , as ukrainian woman  think yourself the same with russian one?

of course not

so why are you asking obvious things......

Once again  it is my personal private point of view that those UW and RW are different

is that some kinda problem or discomfort for you personally???

I guess you are puzzling yourself...

[Nat]

I pointed the thing that though all women in the world are similar  in some way , at the same time they are all different, do not you understand?

This I can understand, and here I agree with you completely

You , as ukrainian woman  think yourself the same with russian one?
of course not

You see, I live in Ukraine, but I can't say I'm Ukrainian. And I can't say I'm Russian either So I can discuss this topic just as an observer

Once again  it is my personal private point of view that those UW and RW are different

Ok

is that some kinda problem or discomfort for you personally???

Hm... No.

[Jazzyclassy]

   is that some kinda problem or discomfort for you personally???


Hm... No.         

That is amazing:) that is the main thing:)

[timothe]

Are you pulling our leg?  I never noticed BO on any woman.  Perhaps you were visiting Ukraine in the summer when the central hot water plant was closed for its annual two-week maintanance.  Even then, women would bathe from a one-quart sauce pan.

Too funny!

Are you kidding me?  I've met many a Russian woman with odorus significantus, in Moscow and the provinces.  I have not been to the Ukraine yet, but I would assume to find it there as well.  (I'm going to Kiev this summer, but if my ladyfriend notices me smelling another woman's scent, there will be hell to pay)

[ScottinCrimea]

I've been in Ukraine a long time and I have yet to smell any body odor on a woman.  Even with the old babushkas from the villages selling their goods at the market, I find nothing offensive.  I know my wife keeps herself cleaner than any woman I knew in the US.

[William3rd]

Way back in 1997-98, when the choice was having dinner or buying deodorant or detergents, many of the women that I met at the St. Petersburg summer socials had noticeable odors. Not so much from them but from the dress clothing that they wore. This was pretty much a non-issue by 2000.

[DKMM]

I was wondering if it was common or not.  For me it was the only UW i'd ever been close to.  She's very much upper class and westernized so it isn't a needs thing.  Funny thing is, after a few days I didn't notice it much and even began to like it(!)

[catzenmouse]

The differences really exist. UW more housewifely, more highbred, not so grandiose. They easily fall into line with husbands, smoke and drink less than RW, more economical. They more prestigious in the FUSSR bride's market, have the highest qualitative attestation. Therefore here German men prefere UW.

This is one of the biggest crocks of $hit I have ever read. If that is truly how German men think then Great! Because it leaves the best of the choices available to the rest of us. Honestly, rockie do you ever have an original thought? Oh that's right you won't read this because I'm on ignore from you because I call you on this continous crap that you write. Sorry. I'll try to be more forgiving in the future... NOT!

There are wonderful women in all countries! Simple fact. How hard is it to understand that? Your German buddy is as simple minded as you are.

Ken

[I/O]

Generalisations abound all too often, however, I have always kinda thought that Ukraine was a stepping stone on the way to the "Real Deal".  Haven't seen much to justify changing that view.

I/O

[ScottinCrimea]

And you won't unless you look up.

[I/O]

And you won't unless you look up.

  Bit hard when we spend our lives down here walking around upside down.

I/O

[Daveman]

Are you kidding me?  I've met many a Russian woman with odorus significantus, in Moscow and the provinces.  I have not been to the Ukraine yet, but I would assume to find it there as well.  (I'm going to Kiev this summer, but if my ladyfriend notices me smelling another woman's scent, there will be hell to pay)

Really? you found smelly Russian women?  I don't discount your experience, but good lord, I don't see how a single molecule of odorous stench can remain when these girls shower in the morning, shower before going anywhere, shower before sex, shower after sex, shower before bed, shower for the sake of showering, shower to celebrate that they are alive.  I thought I was a clean freak with showering twice a day until I began to meet these showering maniacs.

Dave