Why I like Ukrainian girls....

[Thor]

Dazzler,

Yes even the Beatles had a song about Ukrainian girls....The best and most beautiful girls in the world!!!!
First time I came to Ukraine back in 2005 so did at ONCE notice all this hot girls walking on high heels and miniskirts, AND unlike back home it was the girls you really wants to see in this outfit that had miniskirts and high heels.... . FSU girls have the most sexy legs I ever have seen. But the Ukrainian girls are also high educated and clever....Oh..I just love this girls...But of course I am happily married to my Ukrainian Zhenna (wife).

[Ste]

My Nadia is interpreting in Berlin on Friday for a group of Ukrainian Lesbians!

That'll probably be all of them then.....

[ScottinCrimea]

Guess that's the last you'lll see of her.   

[Ste]

Guess that's the last you'lll see of her.   

Why? She hates Ukrainians!

[Jazzyclassy]

Why? She hates Ukrainians!

 

[ScottinCrimea]

So I'm sure than that she also hates the Ukrainski yasik.   

[Kuna]

I tell you what, I think I'm heading towards Kharkov sometime soon

Ahhhh....  the bait was set... the hook was taken... and the fish will now slowly be reeled in via PM.   

dazzler...  you may have just fell for the oldest trick in the book AND justified it all in the same post.

Agencies (including thors) use sex to lure men.  Supple young bodies and everything you could imagine in your dreams is available "so come on over and choose your poison". 

Once you're motivated you'll become a buyer instead of a shopper. 

In your post you tried to justify the (very natural) lust we men have to wrestle with by saying:

But seriously, although there is much talk of the beauty factor e.g. legs, high heels, mini skirts ets, beneath that whole exterior lies real beauty in my opinion   Who's with me on this one? 

Deep down you know it's personality and character that will define the success of a relationship but what really motivates us is our desire for [insert your own personal weaknesses here].

Be very careful with any agency/helper/guide/web site that use sex to sell (even though sex does sell)... and don't be fooled when you're confronted with things that are not as they first seemed.

P.S. Whats the general feeling towards Dnipro women just out of interest? I mean apart from their obvious good looks and amazing legs

Women in Dnepropetrovsk are just like women all over the world.  There are good ones and bad ones. Beautiful ones and not so beautiful ones.  The challenge is to find a good girl who is beautiful to you.

My Girl is from Dnepropetrovsk and like MANY women in central and eastern UKR she is ethnic Russian.  Personally I think Dnepro women are the best because I've found a perfect example to base my beliefs on.  Of course every man here thinks the city where his partner is from is the best place to search for a girl... but in reality if you're choosing a location to search you should consider the city, sites, interests and geography not the girls.  The girls will be similar in many places you go to...  just stay focused on character and try not to be reeled in by short skirts and high heels.

Kuna

[Thor]

Agencies (including thors)

 

[FSUrookie]

Wow Thor,

Some guys (Kuna) definitely have too much time on their hands!
I hope you can take it as fast as you give it Kuna.... Lighten up a bit....

Thanks for all your advice Thor.... I have already begun my road to recovery....

I'll tell you more later.....

[Kuna]

Wow Thor,

Some guys (Kuna) definitely have too much time on their hands!
I hope you can take it as fast as you give it Kuna.... Lighten up a bit....

Thanks for all your advice Thor.... I have already begun my road to recovery....

I'll tell you more later.....

FSURookie...

I don't need advice from you but thanks anyway... If you have another train wreck please feel free to come back for another reality check.

Good luck in your continued search...  I'm sure things will improve in future.   

My advice to dazzler hold true for you too... try to aim for more than a short skirt or VERY young girls....  Everyone is welcome to take a high risk approach but they shouldn't cry scam when their own decisions created the scam.

Kuna

[dazzler]

Oh Kuna,  ligten up lad!  Yes I do like short skirts and legs etc, but just tonight I saw plenty of that around Sheffield as the students have just come back and boy is it noticeable.  But.. did that mean I was drooling all night as I was delivering takeaway food to customers ???  Not on your life for these young women tonight may have the figure and look good, but they lack something more basic beneathe their exterior.  they lack what I call real beauty.  This real beauty is what I notice in not only Dnipro, but all over the FSU where I have visited and also Poland too.  I can't explain everything as I am but a mere spectator, but I notice a huge difference in the way FSU/East European women carry themselves. Thats all I was saying!!! 

Honestly, you'll give me a reputation spreading rumours about me coming to FSU to choose my poison to use your expression  

I simply want to meet someone special who will be my other half, my lover and my friend all in 1.  I am the old fashioned traditional romantic type Kuna, not some sex crazed man just looking for sex adventures like too may men and women seem to be looking or these days   In fact that has never interested in me even when I was 18 or 20!!  Funny how things get misinterpreted though

[Jazzyclassy]

Wow Thor,

Some guys (Kuna) definitely have too much time on their hands!
I hope you can take it as fast as you give it Kuna.... Lighten up a bit....

Thanks for all your advice Thor.... I have already begun my road to recovery....

I'll tell you more later.....

It's unbelievable, to hear such words from the person who does not know what he wants from life (though he lived almost half of it ...) and is posting such a fantastic stories about him being scammed -Let it be very strict spoken , but it is true!

Kuna is underlining something very important here

Ahhhh....  the bait was set... the hook was taken... and the fish will now slowly be reeled in via PM.   

dazzler...  you may have just fell for the oldest trick in the book AND justified it all in the same post.

Agencies (including thors) use sex to lure men.  Supple young bodies and everything you could imagine in your dreams is available "so come on over and choose your poison". 

Once you're motivated you'll become a buyer instead of a shopper. 
 

I am truly convinced there are guys and guys and such guys like Thor , FSURookie and such staff from their category , it is just sad that they can pull the leg of somebody who is completely naive and newbie in this case

I do not know , my dad is always laughing at such guys who are like 45-50  y/o never been married and then found someone got married and then start drooling over school girls in shirt skirts and sings about them on every corner these guys are pathetic - no other words for them. What can you say about their development, if the only thing you can hear from them is- Wow oh what a chick such legs, such body ooo Dnepro girls are the sexiest girls ever    and so on . Are people seriously expecting help from such guys when you are in trouble or being scammed? of course not, they are melting in this shirt skirts business for years already , calling and inviting such kinda green newbie guys , who are deprived of sexual attention, they need such guys , as they will provoke them spending money on some strange girl and then after something bad will happen , they will just tell , -Sorry you lad, should not have fallen for her-its your fault! meanwhile they will be  advertising and provoking newbie rookie guys  for committing such deeds......

in the end of the days one should chose the road for himself ..... none will protect those guys when they are willing to jump into these doubtful adventures themselves...

[FSUrookie]

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
And certainly, everyone has the right to believe that their opinion is best....
You know, just because I screwed-up and had a unfortunate FSU experience, does not mean that I do not have the right to express my opinion.
Unlike a few others, who can give it but not take it, I am not "holier than thou".
I must say though, I certainly am happy to have shed some light to those new to the FSU dating scene and some of the real pitfalls it offers.
And I also give thanks to the postings of many of the RWD members, which has helped me tremendously!
As for me, I will not make personal judgements about others Jazzy, and I think that I have honestly and openly poured my heart and guts on my thread regarding my fiancee. No, I am not perfect, but I will not resort to judging people so quickly and simplistically as you do Jazzy. But then again you seem to be outspoken on RWD, but have also wrote some valuable advice here, as has Thor.
However, I think it is is totally inappropriate to make a comment as Kuna did; "Agencies (including thors) use sex to lure men."
I am not too proud to admit that I made mistakes and I hope my experience will be of value to other newbies.
As for childish and inappropriate comments, it serves no one any purpose to judge others so harshly without all the facts.
To be fair, Jazzy and Kuna and Thor and others have made some valuable input to this RWD forum,and it is the experiences of all that really make this board work to educate others...
Anyway, all newbies should review all comments, and do their own researchas well, and make an educated decision.....

[Jazzyclassy]

FSURookie,

I never meant to hurt you or your feelings about this Ukrainian matter, what I was saying that I do not really trust those people with agencies and things

since the beginning of my postings here in RWD , I noticed from the start Thor's posts and never was impressed by the style of his words and his one way train  thinking

You , guys do what you want and use any agency you wish , express your opinion how you like , as I will do the same,

About judging people, surely I might be wrong here, but you need to be here on this site for a while to fully understand how many people can judge you without knowing you for real , people always judge me here , so what , that's the peculiarity of how many sites are working

so please take no offence

[jb]

Jazz,

I have judged you and found you to be a delightful child.

God bless you.

[Turboguy]

Jazzy, there is a certain amount of luck involved in the search for a RW.   The amount of the effect luck can have can be affected greatly by the amount of knowledge someone has.  No matter how much knowledge someone has there are still some very sexy and beautiful women with their own agendas that can turn a mans brain to mush.  

Personally I believe RWD is the best learning experience in the world about the persuit of an FSU wife.  We can learn a lot reading threads like Kuna's posts where he asked a lot of great questions and made his first trip armed with the experience of many here.   I think we can learn a lot to from the experiences of guys like FSU rookie whose efforts did not have the happy ending he dreamed of.  If it were not for the difficulties that some face we would see only the good side and and walk though the forest unaware of the dangers that can lurk in this venture.  Sharing the frustration and hurt that is a potential for all of us is one of the best contributions anyone can make.

Kuna has criticized FSURookie and FSURookie has criticized Kuna.   Well to me Kuna has sort of taken on the mantle of an OMB even though he has yet to marry and has a very limited experience in meeting FSU women.   I have no real problem with the advice he gives.  His posts in repines to someones request for advice are usually among the best given.  They are usually well thought out, complete, correct and worded in a clear and easy to understand way.  He makes a very positive contribution here and I am glad he does.

Unfortunately he has also taken on a holier than thou attitude and some of the intolerance and bluntness that a few of the OMB's also have on occasion and as FSU Rookie has pointed out and unlike the other OMB's shown himself to be someone who likes to dish it out but can't take it.   He can say very nasty things to someone like FSU rookie but if a negative comment is returned he seems to totally loose self control.   The judgemental nature and temper I see in Kuna I think will present real challenges once the rosy glow wears off his relationship.   I want to see Kuna succeed in his relationship and I think this is an area that he needs to be very careful of and to work to improve himself.  

I appreciate FSU sharing his sad story and pain.  I think the best lessons are often the hardest but hopefully many will read his tale and learn without suffering the pain.  

[Thor]

FSURookie,

I never meant to hurt you or your feelings about this Ukrainian matter, what I was saying that I do not really trust those people with agencies and things

since the beginning of my postings here in RWD , I noticed from the start Thor's posts and never was impressed by the style of his words and his one way train  thinking

You , guys do what you want and use any agency you wish , express your opinion how you like , as I will do the same,

About judging people, surely I might be wrong here, but you need to be here on this site for a while to fully understand how many people can judge you without knowing you for real , people always judge me here , so what , that's the peculiarity of how many sites are working

so please take no offence

Miss jazzyclassy,

I am not impressed by your posts either. It seems to me that you are very naive, maybe I am wromg but this is how I feel it. I have posted a lot of posts like how to find your princess and why I like Ukrainian girls. DA DA DA, I like the Ukrainian girls because of their look, the way they dress and because they seems to be so educated and clazzy. Maybe this is to much for you, but this is how I feel it.

By the way, who cares if your father is laughing at guys comming to FSU to find a nice girl. He can laugh as much as he wants . I have helped several guys with advise about Ukraine, the culture, the girls and so on, and I will continue with this.

ALWAYS listen to they who had sucess, yes sometimes you need to have some luck, but I trully belive that by doing my homework before I came to Ukraine so was I well prepered to find the ONE!!

[Thor]

Wow Thor,

Some guys (Kuna) definitely have too much time on their hands!
I hope you can take it as fast as you give it Kuna.... Lighten up a bit....

Thanks for all your advice Thor.... I have already begun my road to recovery....

I'll tell you more later.....

Hi John,

Dont care about Kuna, he seems to be very negative all the time. Look at the bright side of life and work hard. You will be sucessfull and look for the girl you WANT to find. Dont let other guys tell you how and what kind of girl you are looking for. ONLY you know what you are looking for. Some members here seems to point a finger to you because you had a young girlfriend, but dont care. If you want to find a young girl so look for a young girl, BUT there is not easy to find a SERIOUS young girl John.

[Thor]

Kuna has criticized FSURookie and FSURookie has criticized Kuna.   Well to me Kuna has sort of taken on the mantle of an OMB even though he has yet to marry and has a very limited experience in meeting FSU women.   I have no real problem with the advice he gives.  His posts in repines to someones request for advice are usually among the best given.  They are usually well thought out, complete, correct and worded in a clear and easy to understand way.  He makes a very positive contribution here and I am glad he does.

Unfortunately he has also taken on a holier than thou attitude and some of the intolerance and bluntness that a few of the OMB's also have on occasion and as FSU Rookie has pointed out and unlike the other OMB's shown himself to be someone who likes to dish it out but can't take it.   He can say very nasty things to someone like FSU rookie but if a negative comment is returned he seems to totally loose self control.   The judgemental nature and temper I see in Kuna I think will present real challenges once the rosy glow wears off his relationship.   I want to see Kuna succeed in his relationship and I think this is an area that he needs to be very careful of and to work to improve himself.  

I appreciate FSU sharing his sad story and pain.  I think the best lessons are often the hardest but hopefully many will read his tale and learn without suffering the pain.  

 

Yes yes. Kuna has been only 2 or 3 times in Ukraine, he has hardly spend any time with his girl, BUT he act like God on RWD. He cant handle critic, he judge other members, he tells other members that I run a agency... , he act rude to other members like to FSU Rookie. Yes he has some good advises here no doubt about that, but maybe he should be more humble until he has some more experience with Ukraine and he has try-ed to live with a Ukrainian girl over some longer time...

Kuna,

Keep up your good posts, BUT stop your rud words when somebody dont agree with you. Maybe this is your thrue colours, what will happend when you future wife dont agree with you........

[icqu2]

Well, this was a most interesting read.  What started out as a good, insightful, educational topic soon turned south.  I must admit however, I chuckled to the end.   

I shoulda bought a program  but here's what I learned of the players in this the first act, in no particular order.  (Verdict is still out as to if this was Act I from the Twilight Zone of from a daytime Soap Opera.)

Jack - takes great pictures of great looking ladies and of.......um..... well dressed overly large ladies in his attempts to please all.  He's a people pleaser.

Jazzy - well,,, she seems to be not too fond of how men let their Johnson do the thinkin' for 'em.  BUT, she had very good and valid points about the beauty of the heart and soul outweighing outward appearances.

Wayne - Easy going and has the ability to see into the future.

Scott - He likes to rub it in and feels good about doin' so.  It's a cryin' shame he must look at all that eye candy everday, a burden, a cross he has to bare. (bear?)

Start2 - Easily entertained.  All The World's a Stage.  Box a crayons and piece of paper and he's set for the day.

Ken - Too knowledgeable.  Knows too much.  Involved in some kind of conspiracy, must watch him closely.

Wiz - Couldn't figger out if that was Scotch, Bourbon, Whiskey or Coffee in his cup, but I'm leaning towards one of the first three mentioned.

I/O - He's short and likes tall women.

FSURookie - Trouble maker.  Cleverly pits one against another and sits back in the shadows to watch the sparks fly.  His way of gettin' even for being double crossed by someone at sometime.

Legal - Much be a teacher, possibly Historian.

Rivardco - He JUST DOES IT

Thor - Likes UK girls, gets paid under the table to take nu b's to certain clubs.  Lures others with promises of beautiful ladies who just want to have sex all the time.  Doesn't play well with some.  Puts sand in Kuna's PB&J when hes' not looking, teacher made him write "I will not....." 100 times on the blackboard.   

Kuna - Must be an Aussie. Knows all about everything.  If you've done it, he's done it better.   Mad at Thor for puttin' sand in his PB&J, also doesn't play well with others and spends a lot of playtime in time out.   

JB - Well, he's from Texas and I STAND BEHIND HIM 100% - unless he says somethin' stupid then he's on his own.

Lily - Where have you been the last 3.5 years of my life????????   

Forgive me for the ones I failed to mention but, as I said, I didn't buy the program, DARN IT!!!

Have a good 1 all!!  'Preciate the fun of banter!!

Latr Daze,
GG   
(ICQU2)  'Sposed to a been ICQ2 but screwed up in registration.  Can you change that Jack??

PS - If anyone has better insight - I welcome your input

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[Jazzyclassy]

       Ken - Too knowledgeable.  Knows too much.  Involved in some kind of conspiracy, must watch him closely.

Wiz - Couldn't figger out if that was Scotch, Bourbon, Whiskey or Coffee in his cup, but I'm leaning towards one of the first three mentioned.

I/O - He's short and likes tall women.

FSURookie - Trouble maker.  Cleverly pits one against another and sits back in the shadows to watch the sparks fly.  His way of gettin' even for being double crossed by someone at sometime.


Thor - Likes UK girls, gets paid under the table to take nu b's to certain clubs.  Lures others with promises of beautiful ladies who just want to have sex all the time.  Doesn't play well with some.  Puts sand in Kuna's PB&J when hes' not looking, teacher made him write "I will not....." 100 times on the blackboard.   

             

ahhahah that is funny , especially about I/O ahahhaha

[jb]

We had a brief chat yesterday on the phone, icq2 and me, he is indeed a pleasant and humorous guy.

Just a suggestion, icq2, read the thread:
http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=5797.0

I know about the lifestyles of smallish TX towns and I'd almost say for certainty that the average FSU big city woman would quickly go nuts in your town.  I've spent too much time is such places and know that you can't take a dump in the morning without everyone in town knowing how much and what color by noon.  That, plus the fact that many of the folks who reside in our rural central TX behave like what happens when cousins get married.

Just something for you to cogitate over.

[icqu2]

Thx for the kind words JB, 'preciate it.  Humor is so much better for the soul than the alternative.  That's why I always wear a smile, try to find humor n everthing and can still laugh at myself better than anyone else.

Of course I realize it will take a very special lady who would want to live the quite, peaceful, relaxfing, easy going, slow as snail's pace lifestyle.  But afterall - that's what I'm after - a very special lady.  One who knows how to appreciate the kindness and charm of country folk, where good manners are part of everyday life.  You see, I lived in the rat race, had my share of the city life, almost 20 years of it, and despised all the rudeness of others, the road rage, the gotta have it now attitude. 

   

[justanotherguy]

lol why is there not a single guy on the dance floor with any of them?

[Kuna]

lol why is there not a single guy on the dance floor with any of them?

Maybe they are just "marketing"...   

It might explain it if you read some of jb's previous comments about many (not all) girls that go to "discos" in the bigger cities in FSU.

If you ever go to Kiev and feel like you're about to get lucky in a disco doin't be too shocked when they tell you how much they like you - and then tell you how much (in dollars) they expect you to like them!

CHI-CHING