could you take a city RW and move her to the country

[tjk]

Hello everyone again.

I would like to thank everyone for there help with my last post and would like to know everyone’s thoughts about this.

As you may or may not know I live in the country with nothing really around me but me, myself and I. The closest town is 2000 people where my kids go to school 10 miles away. To get a little bigger would be 30 miles away with 13,000 people. Or there is Sioux Falls South Dakota 120,000 75 miles away. And then there is the twin cities (Minneapolis) 4 hours give or take.

Would this be a major problem for a RW. I know that this way of life is not for everyone. But I have to wonder if you could take a woman from say Kiev and move her to the country, if she would be able to adjust to everything and be happy? Of course there are many wonderful things that the country life has to offer that the city can not, but the there are a lot of things that the city has that the country does not... Like people and shopping     Just wanted to know what everyone thought about this..

I know that the other girls that I have written to have said that it would not be a problem but we all know what kind of girls they turned out to be
Well at least two of them anyway.


So the search continues..

[Simoni]

Marina was a big city girl.  All of her life she had lived downtown in a city of 1.5 million.

Our first year here was in a city of 300,000.  But we lived about 3 miles from the city center.  She missed having the city around her and all the sights and sounds.  She called our apartment complex "a village."  Village, BTW, is NOT a good thing to most FSU girls...

She was a trooper, and we made it ok, but I felt bad for her.

Now we are living downtown and she is much happier.

Everyone is different, but I suspect that you can't "take the city out of the girl."  In most cases, anyway. That's just my opinion...

[catzenmouse]

Can it be done? Yes. So can finding the perfect woman on your first trip and marrying some 40 years younger than you.

Question is would she be willing to do it.

Better make sure you let them know up front about your situation as I believe that most ladies would feel that you are living in a village and would not ever want to live like that.

They are city centric while we here are suburb/country centric in a lot of ways. We think nothing of hopping int he car and driving an hour to the city if we want what it has to offer while we enjoy our country laid back lifestyle. An hour outside of most cities there will be more like what we would think of as backwoods in the Ozarks with outdoor plumbing and one store in town (and not much of one either).

You've got your work cut out for you.

Ken

[jb]

tjk,

Not impossible,,, but not a walk in the park either. 

I just observed one of the toughest women I've ever known absolutely dissolve when a baby burro ambled up a fence line,,, turns out this lady cop, an investigator for the local township is a sucker for barnyard babies.  Every woman has her weakness,,, you just need to find one that would be turned on by what you have to offer.

[jb]

I had my camera at the time, she's 30'ish, quite pretty, and a mean 'muther.  My kind of woman.

[DizzyD]

Hi Tjk..

I think RW thoughts on country living is a product of knowing what country living is like in their own country and from what i understand it is quite different from the way it is for us...

I to live in the country and have had this discussion with my friend... her initial reaction was "why would you want to live in the country?" I think from their perspective only "unfortunate" people live there...

This however is still something that my friend and I need to talk about, and i don't know if her perception, will change or not.. :noidea:

Dizzy

[I/O]

Doable but difficult I suspect. I'd suggest you looked to use on the ground agents or newspapers rather than the websites.

I/O

[wxman]

tjk,

Since I am from Sioux Falls, I can give a little perspective about that. I honestly don't think a woman from a big city like Kiev, would enjoy living in Sioux Falls or just about any other city in South Dakota or adjacent areas of southwest Minnesota and northwest Iowa. Not that the living conditions are bad, but that there really is not much to do in these cities. The night life is non existant, and if she likes to go out dancing, she better like country music and dancing, as that is all there really is, and the nightclubs, if you can call them that are nothing more than saloons. The restaurants in our area are nothing more than chains, so she will be use to much better quality in Kiev.

This area is a rural area, with farming the main part of the economy. I honestly don't think a woman from a city of 5 million would last in a farming city of 2000. These little communities of 2000 to 3000 people are nothing more than gossip colonies, and she would be an outsider from day 1. Sure the people will smile to her face, but the minute she is out of site, the women of these communities will talk about her and call her the little MOB from Kiev. Not to mention they will be envious of her looks. Think about it, she will be all dressed up with no place to go, few friends if any, and not be able to do anything without people talking about her. Seems like a pretty lonely life and far far away from home.  Sioux Falls does have it's Russian community of 2000 to 3000 people, so if there is any place she would make some friends it would be here. I'm not saying it won't work, but living around this area for 25 years I can definitely say it is much different than Kiev, and much different than many other places in the US.

Sioux Falls is roughly 150,000, and the nearest cities with a population of greater than 150,000 are Minneapolis which is 250 miles away, Des Moines about 250 miles away, and Omaha around 200 miles away. Travelling west, the nearest city of more than 150,000 people is Denver, which is more than 700 miles away. So this area really is out in the middle of nowhere.

[tjk]

wxman- are you still in Sioux falls?

[tjk]

I/O- ya I was wondering about the newspaper thing, I read the post with THOR the other day and didn't know what to really think about it and the possibilities..

jb- oh yea there is nothing like a baby animal to bring a woman to her knees and go oh isn't that just the cutest thing

DizzyD- well at least I'm not the only one.

I have and do tell the girls right up front about where I live and I also try to explain some of the benefits to it as well.

But one will not know if one does not try?? I know that it is not a life for everyone but there are some of the best people in the world that live in the country....

Always up for a challenge..

[BillyB]

I have and do tell the girls right up front about where I live and I also try to explain some of the benefits to it as well.

Also let them know your daily routine throughout correspondence so they don't forget. I'm sure there are guys that try to deceive their living conditions but it'll come back and bite them in the ass when their woman gets depressed.

I'm fortunate that I have country like surroundings and live next to the city of Seattle and enjoy both Worlds. Got plenty of trees, and wildlife such as deer, rabbits, coyote and about 10 Ukrainians walking to church every weekend cross through my property.

[bigrbull]

Hi

I'll have the same problem as you since I am also from a small farming community in NE.  I think we just need to be honest with the women and let them decide.  I was engaged to a woman from a big city and she loved the country lifestyle.  Love will find a way.

[aikorob]

tjk,
I'll let you know in a few years. N. is from Odessa, and we currently live about an hour SW of Atlanta. She says the house would be great if we were retired, but she wants to live in the city. However, she does enjoy watching the deer, possums and other critters in the back yard. I told her from the beginning that I was completely against living in an apartment, but moving closer to civilization would not be out of the question. She was very perceptive about life in small town America-after all, they do watch television over there

[William3rd]

DO they show Green Acres in the former FSU?

[Shadow]

DO they show Green Acres in the former FSU?

Any show of before Perestrojka is bound to be unkown there. 

[Adrian]

How old is she? If she is in her 20s or 30s, I would say definitely not. Don't even try.

She will want to go out. Shop, dinner, cafes.. etc..

She will be MISERABLE.

[tjk]

You know that just because you say that you live in the country does not mean that you have to hook up the cart and buggy to go to town. It is very easy to go to town and get what ever you would want to get. Might have to drive for a couple of hours but what is the difference from you people who live in the city and have to drive two hours just to get to work across town. That IMO does not sound like fun at all. I would rather not be able to shake my neighbors hand out the window of my house. I am not saying that you are wrong and that I am right but I really do not see the difference here. I have to drive to town or a hour or two to maybe do something that you would think would be fun, but you also have to drive thru all that traffic and it takes you just as long. I can tell you that I know a lot of people that are the happiest they could ever be living in the country. Here you can concentrate on the things that are important in your life like family. You do not have to worry about the trees mugging you or worse yet. Yes this way of life is not for everyone but the CITY is not for everyone also. If you like the city so much, where do you live in the city or outside the city. No matter where you are you are going to drive or rely on public transportation to get where ever you want to go. I do not think that you are walking across town to eat and maybe a little dancing. If you are well great have a fun walk back at night in the dark. That's when the bogey man comes out to get you, you know....

Well I would go on a little more but I got to get ready for bed so I can get up at 5:00 to get the horse and buggy hooked up to take the kids to school.. I will say one more thing and that is if these da*& gas prices keep going up maybe I could sell you a horse or two to ride to work might save you a dollar or two...........  

I respect everyones advice on this site because I think that it has saved me allot of heart ache and not to mention money and more money.. But...... what would you eat without us people in the country raising something for you....All that concrete and asphalt might lose its appeal.....

[Misha]

You know that just because you say that you live in the country does not mean that you have to hook up the cart and buggy to go to town.

The thing to keep in mind is that in many Russian villages PEOPLE DO HOOK UP THE CART AND BUGGY TO GO TO TOWN! You will have to do a bit extra in terms of communication to explain what life in the country is really like in the United States. 

[deccie]

.. But...... what would you eat without us people in the country raising something for you....All that concrete and asphalt might lose its appeal.....

Rather than eating concrete or asphalt I guess they eat food from China, Phillipines, Europe or where-ever else they wanted to. Perhaps even start growing something themselves?

[I/O]

Tjk: A quick comment from my finace' who has been here before, but now has had a little time to again assess a few different areas and her comments about the rural areas......"Zis is very beautiful, but I is from inside cities and I think this living very difficult for me early because I will being bored a little bit, maybe I can learning, but I think very difficult for me." BTW I originate from some of the more remote rural areas in this country and can adjust to almost anything, but FWIW, I think you need to approach this with caution.

I still think, doable but difficult.

I/O

[deccie]

Tjk: A quick comment from my finace' who has been here before, but now has had a little time to again assess a few different areas and her comments about the rural areas......"Zis is very beautiful, but I is from inside cities and I think this living very difficult for me early because I will being bored a little bit, maybe I can learning, but I think very difficult for me." BTW I originate from some of the more remote rural areas in this country and can adjust to almost anything, but FWIW, I think you need to approach this with caution.

I still think, doable but difficult.

I/O

I/O, I think your fiance's comments are very pertinent. I had a bit of a wake up call on this with my own fiance on our trip to Europe in June/July. We were staying in a part of Paris outside the main centre of town BUT it was still PARIS. To my fiance though she was staying "in a village".

[BC]

Much of Europe, and many FSU cities are made so that somehow one can navigate well 'by legs'.

During a visit to the USA, even I noticed that in smaller cities just getting across a 'normal' street (mostly 4 lane with center turn lane) was quite impossible.

Crosswalks and sidewalks were quite rare unless you were in the very center of the town.

[Turboguy]

I will agree with I/O.   To me it is doable but will take some good explaining and finding the right woman who will be happy with country life will make the weeding out process more challenging.

Most people in the FSU and nearly all the women looking for a Foreign husband live in something that we would call a fairly good sized city.   They are used to public transportation and lots of shopping and restaurants.  It will be a big change for them.

One case I can think of is my former Ukrainian friend who visited RWD a few weeks ago.  She married a guy and lived in a very beautiful house in the woods overlooking a lake in a country setting.  Many would look at her living conditions there as paradise.  She totally hated it but did learn to like it in time.  Shopping there was a drive but excellent. 

I can look at my own fiancee.   She comes from what she considers a small city but by American standards it is a big city.  She sort of enjoys scenery and nature and long walks and is not big on restaurants.   We spent our summer in Barbados and Grenada.  Barbados had many things to do but a dense population.  Grenada had next to nothing to do but was more like being in the country.   We both liked Grenada much better.   As much as she enjoys nature I don't think she would consider living that much in the country to be a dream life.

My last look is at a friend from Northern Michigan who married a gal from Moldova.  I think things there are about like you described or on the same general order and they get along fine.

I think you will have to look harder but I think it can be done.  You will be facing a bigger challenge than most do. 

[Misha]

Most people in the FSU and nearly all the women looking for a Foreign husband live in something that we would call a fairly good sized city.   They are used to public transportation and lots of shopping and restaurants.  It will be a big change for them.

I think you will have to look harder but I think it can be done.  You will be facing a bigger challenge than most do. 

The important thing is wanting to change one's life. If a woman wants things to be exactly like home, why would she leave in the first place?

Also, it is important to keep a few things in mind. Yes, there are a lot of restaurants in Russian cities, but that does not mean that most women in Russia will go to a restaurant very often. My wife (28-years-old), for example, used to go to a restaurant a few times a year at most. She is the one who is now training me on eating at home more often.

As for shopping, this is not something that you need to do EVERY day. I live in a smaller city, but most of everything that we need can be bought locally. However, we travel to a big city (close to 1 million people) every month or so, and my wife can do some shopping there for things she can't buy at home. And, of course, there is catalog shopping and shopping via the web which can be done anywhere in North America.

In this case I agree with Turbo, it might be more of a challenge, but if you find the right person who loves you, she will be happy in the smallest of villages.

[Blues Fairy]

I am a Moscow girl but come from a small town (a university and research community near Novosibirsk, 30 min. drive).  I would NEVER move to the country for a kind of life tjk describes, even if I become a housewife or a hippie.  Being able to see a variety of people around me is essential to my sanity.