Six and a half years and still going strong!

[KenC]

Not everybody can afford a 'model'. Along with those model looks comes 'high maintnence'. Me I'm a low maintanence kinda guy, but I still got a hot babe!!!
I figure to each there own, if your pockets are deep enough, go for it. But I still figure whats on the inside is more important & all that beauty don't last forever unless you got reeeeeaaaal deep pockets! Plastic surgery ain't cheap & vanity will win out over wrinkles every time!

Richard,
So if one is to marry a "model" type beauty, it automatically means the woman is high maintenance and he had better be able to afford plastic surgery for his vain wife's future?  Where do you get this stuff from?  Do you just make it up as you go?  I am here to say you are full of crap from my personal experience.

Lena has had many an opportunity to cash in on her good looks since coming to America and still has the healthiest outlook on things.  There is no paranoia in regard to her looks fading over time, even though she does pay attention to and is always maximising her beauty.  I still remember her comment to me when I complimented her looks.  She said, "Yes, OK, I am beautiful, but so what?  My beauty will eventually fade and I will be left with the person I choose to be in real life.  It is that person that I am most concerned about."

You, like Jazzy, make conclusions based on BS you pull out of your butt.
KenC

[Gator]

John,

Congratulations.  We all know that women such as Marina are approached everyday by other men.  The fact that she has stayed with you for over six years in the prime of her youth says something for the strength of your marriage, her character, and your qualities.

JazzyClassy,

Everyone is different.  Your words make you sound like an American woman - you know what is best for other people and express such in public.  John's and Marina's decision is a matter of private choice.  

Personally, I would object to my wife (if I had one) posing for such photos and furious if they ever appeared on the Internet.  However, I would wish for my wife to feel fulfilled about her life, and if she really wanted to be a partial nude model, I would reluctantly support her with the caveats that Marina wrote in her webpage.  

My RW girlfriend was a professional ex-model over 14 years in Russia, Germany and Austria, working into her mid-30s.  She was a runway fashion model (evening dresses) in her earlier years and with age and a few more kg  ended her career doing catalog photos for bed and bath linens.    And Richard, she is not high maintenance, not even close to it.

I questioned her if she ever made nude photos.   She  replied "never" in an indignant tone.  Even though she still has a fantastic body at age 41, her photos in her marriage agency profile were face, an old fashion photo revealing only slender ankles, and one sitting in jeans showing long legs but hiding her ample breasts.  

I have noticed that many RW, while sexy in private, are very proper and reserved in public.  And I like that classy attitude.  Again, that is me, and other men may prefer flaunting.  

It is all a matter of personal choices and I will not judge other people.  So, Jazzy, stop behaving like an American woman and judging people.  It is not very becoming and does not show inner beauty.

[pitbull]

Just looked at Marina's pictures. And she IS successful in the model business?  Model business must be in deep crisis then.

[Admin]

Hello everyone!

I used to be a regular poster on Planet Love, but the whole marriage thing seems to take all my time now.  Marina and I have been married for about 6 1/2 years now and have lived in Iowa, California, and back in Iowa again. 

For those who don't go that far back, here's our general details:
* Marina is Ukrainian
* She came over on K1 visa, in July 2000
* She's 26, I just hit 43

Marina has settled in remarkably well.  She is currently pursuing a modeling career and was selected as 93x.com 's "Hot Chick of the Day" today (March 28th).  She finally got her page up on Maxim's "Hometown Hotties" contest today.  If any of you would like to cast a vote, you can do so at the following link:

http://www.maximonline.com/hotties/profile_2007.aspx?id=22863&gallery_week=5
(yes, it's a blatant plug, but I'm shameless :-) )

If you'd like to see one of her online portfolios, here is a link:
http://www.kindindustries.com/myProfile.php?UID=9598

For only being in the business half a year, she's already starting to make some waves out there.  I'm very proud of her.

Well, I've got to go.  Marina is tapping her toe and it's time for me to say "Yes, Dear" and get back to my "Honey Do's".  :-)

John,

Glad to see you here. There are quite a few PL transplants here - among them are KenC, Jack, WmGO, Bruce (HockeyBrain at PL), and many others.

Your wife is quite lovely. Best of luck to her in the contest.

- Dan

[KenC]

Just looked at Marina's pictures. And she IS successful in the model business?  Model business must be in deep crisis then.

Was that really necessary?  No class at all, man.
KenC

[pitbull]

KenC,

If a guy posts pretty much naked shots of his wife in the open forum, bragging about her body, he should be ready to hear different opinions. Has nothing to do with class.

[KenC]

Pitbull.
IMO it is classless to slam another man's woman's looks here.  Your opinion was not solicited, but offered voluntarily.  You are of course entitled to your opinion, but it is not necessary to share it.  Sometimes it is better to leave some things unsaid.  Posting a photo of one's wife should not open the door for disparaging remarks like you made.  There are certain lines that should never be crossed and you crossed one.  Why don't you post a photo of your lady and let everyone have a shot at her?  But then, I would hope that the membership here would have more class than you displayed in your comments.  And yes, it is all about class.
KenC

[pitbull]

Ken,
If I had a lady  and posted her naked pic here bragging about her body as her greatest achievement, I would understand I'm actually inviting people to evaluate it, and would be prepared for different opinions.
But I have enough class not to do this (And yes, here it IS about class) 

[jb]

pitbull,,,

Since you don't have a lady, perhaps you'd just post a photo of yourself and let us evaluate that.  Or,,, just maybe you look too much like your namesake to ever get a lady as nice as John K's.  One always has to be careful before throwing stones when they live in glass houses.

[KenC]

Pitbull,
if you wanted to make comments about the posting of such photos on the forum, then I wouldn't say a thing, but to make such comments about another man's wife is not cool in any way.  I get the feeling that you are some old prude with your "almost naked" comments too.  There have been other members here that have posted photos of their wives in much more revealing bikini's and such that didn't evoke the criticism you posted.  But then, that was before you were here to guide us all with your puritanical input.
KenC

[pitbull]

OK, guys, it's pretty easy:

If I wanted my looks get evaluated, I would have posted my pic here and let you evaluate my looks. But I don't want to get my looks evaluated-therefore, I didn't post my pic (and am not going to).

John has posted Marina's pic-therefore, he does expect people to evaluate the way she looks, and actually he invited people do that by starting this thread.

P.S. I guess, I could get a lady if I wanted  

P.P.S., Sorry for the comment, but just couldn't help posting my opinion.

Adios

[Admin]

pitbull,,,

Since you don't have a lady, perhaps you'd just post a photo of yourself and let us evaluate that.  Or,,, just maybe you look too much like your namesake to ever get a lady as nice as John K's.  One always has to be careful before throwing stones when they live in glass houses.

Since she does not post a lot, most probably do not recall that pitbull *is* a RW.

Just thought you might want to know.

- Dan

[John K]

Hmmm, let me see if I have this straight.  Because I mention that my wife is working as a model, I'm some sort of classless neanderthal?  Because I'm proud of what she has achieved in a short amount of time, and I support her in her choices I am some sort of unenlightened lout?  Fine.  I'll take the hit.  It doesn't bother me in the least.

My original post was intended to be a positive statement, showing that there is yet another successful marriage out there.  True, I did plug my wife's career, but again, it was meant as a positive statement.  I am proud of what my wife has accomplished in the limited time she has done this.  Apparently, others cannot accept our good fortune without trying to drag us through the mud.  That is sad.

My wife's career choice is simply that, her choice.  Whether she succeeds or not is irrelevant.  What is relevant is that I support her and believe in her.  What is relevant is that she makes an honest effort to succeed.  What is relevant is that she is doing what she wants to do, and is happiest when she out there in front of the camera.  For that, I will support her, no matter what she wants to do.  That is what is relevant.

That being said, I understand that Marina's career choice is a bit controversial.  Many people assume it is simply some girl who thinks she should be famous on her looks alone.  People will throw out terms like "narcissism" and "vanity" and pontificate to show how much better they are.  Let them.  They are their own worst enemy.

We approached this career choice, not as some flight of fancy, but as a long term career choice requiring commitment, hard work, professionalism, and a lot of upfront investment.  While "long term" is often not a term associated with the modeling field, it is possible to have a successful long term career.  You simply have to know how to do it.

I apologize for stirring up some kind of anthill.  That was not my intention.  I am not sorry for my and my wife's choices, however.

[El Rock]

Hmmm, let me see if I have this straight.  Because I mention that my wife is working as a model, I'm some sort of classless neanderthal?  Because I'm proud of what she has achieved in a short amount of time, and I support her in her choices I am some sort of unenlightened lout?  Fine.  I'll take the hit.  It doesn't bother me in the least.

My original post was intended to be a positive statement, showing that there is yet another successful marriage out there.  True, I did plug my wife's career, but again, it was meant as a positive statement.  I am proud of what my wife has accomplished in the limited time she has done this.  Apparently, others cannot accept our good fortune without trying to drag us through the mud.  That is sad.

My wife's career choice is simply that, her choice.  Whether she succeeds or not is irrelevant.  What is relevant is that I support her and believe in her.  What is relevant is that she makes an honest effort to succeed.  What is relevant is that she is doing what she wants to do, and is happiest when she out there in front of the camera.  For that, I will support her, no matter what she wants to do.  That is what is relevant.

That being said, I understand that Marina's career choice is a bit controversial.  Many people assume it is simply some girl who thinks she should be famous on her looks alone.  People will throw out terms like "narcissism" and "vanity" and pontificate to show how much better they are.  Let them.  They are their own worst enemy.

We approached this career choice, not as some flight of fancy, but as a long term career choice requiring commitment, hard work, professionalism, and a lot of upfront investment.  While "long term" is often not a term associated with the modeling field, it is possible to have a successful long term career.  You simply have to know how to do it.

I apologize for stirring up some kind of anthill.  That was not my intention.  I am not sorry for my and my wife's choices, however.

I would not of taken the time to explain anything as you did .
It is not necessary .

[WmGO]

JohnK,

Good to hear from you. Congratulations to you and Marina on 6 1/2 years of marriage.

Best wishes.

WmGO

[LEGAL]

all the women are beautiful on their own way , I consider  all women to be models

I think you are right, Jazzy  Standard of woman's beauty is one's own taste of  men. Who usually says that a woman is not beautiful and ugly?  Who creates an inferiority complex in woman's mind?

Olga.

[ScottinCrimea]

Boy, this really hit a nerve with all of the insecure women out there!  Congratulations John on a successful marriage and on your support of your wife.  Some make a career out of their brains, some their athletic ability, and some their looks.  They are all about making use of what God gave you in the best manner you can.

[WmGO]

Olga, I could have done without that second photo

[Jazzyclassy]

What can I say

all these old men are attacking  youth

your tongues are too sharp for who you really are

How can you tell things about somebody's  self esteem?

It is better to have it lower than higher

it shows your low Class by dividing women into models and into the other women, who according to your opinion do not deserve  attention

What is the bad habit or bad taste to rate women ,you are justifying your personal  unfoundedness

I think it is obvious.......

[Rvrwind]

My beauty will eventually fade and I will be left with the person I choose to be in real life.  It is that person that I am most concerned about

That just goes to how you Ken that she has brains as well as beauty, a fact I already knew.
But like has been said before your Elena is one in a million in more ways than one. I have met & dated & yes even married a Beauty Queen & will never travel that path again. The marriage lasted 4 years until the well started to dry up. I wasn't as lucky as you & it would seem not as lucky as the OP either seeing as they have been together for 6 and a half years. A deffinet achievement under any circumstances.
And no I don't make this stuff up, I been around & I've seen a lot, and although some are luckier than others the majority are not!

[LEGAL]

How can you tell things about somebody's  self esteem?

It is better to have it lower than higher

Jazzy, I think it is better to have a high self-esteem; to be happy with what god has given you, and living to love life.

http://show-tolstushek.narod.ru/photoalbum.html

[KenC]

What can I say

all these old men are attacking  youth

your tongues are too sharp for who you really are

How can you tell things about somebody's  self esteem?

It is better to have it lower than higher

it shows your low Class by dividing women into models and into the other women, who according to your opinion do not deserve  attention

What is the bad habit or bad taste to rate women ,you are justifying your personal  unfoundedness

I think it is obvious.......

Jazzy,
What planet are you from?  No one divided women in this thread except YOU.  Are you so stupid or immature to understand that?  No one put down women that are not models, only you chose to attack a model that you know nothing about except that she might be prettier than you.  "Sleepless souls" and all, you are making a fool of yourself.  But then again, it wouldn't be the first time and unfortunately probably not the last.
KenC

[Jazzyclassy]

Jazzy,
What planet are you from?  No one divided women in this thread except YOU.  Are you so stupid or immature to understand that?  No one put down women that are not models, only you chose to attack a model that you know nothing about except that she might be prettier than you.  "Sleepless souls" and all, you are making a fool of yourself.  But then again, it wouldn't be the first time and unfortunately probably not the last.
KenC

I am normal and pretty in my own way and I do not need to send my pic to any kinda magazine to prove to myself that I am worth it or how you call  it, my self esteem is in balance and normal , If I had it low I would be searching for this artificial things  such as models and all these naked magazines and bla bla to raise it

the person who has normal selfesteem is not screaming all the year round about how beautiful he is and look how he succeed in showing his naked body....

that is ridiculous

and  I beg your pardon I did not  insult you , you do not know me in a million years, it is very rude  of  you no matter how old  are you   and instead of telling somebody about their class, maybe first of all you should appeal to yourself.....

[KenC]

I am normal and pretty in my own way and I do not need to send my pic to any kinda magazine to prove to myself that I am worth it or how you call  it, my self esteem is in balance and normal , If I had it low I would be searching for this artificial things  such as models and all these naked magazines and bla bla to raise it

Sounds like jealousy to me.  I hate to tell you, but ALL women are not equal, some just are prettier than others, no matter how "beautiful" they are on the inside.  The classic, "I wouldn't do that even if I could" excuse tells it all, baby.

the person who has normal selfesteem is not screaming all the year round about how beautiful he is and look how he succeed in showing his naked body....

that is ridiculous

So all models are insecure?  And you didn't exhibit any insecurities in your rant about all women are beautiful? Oh, OK whatever.

and  I beg your pardon I did not  insult you , you do not know me in a million years, it is very rude  of  you no matter how old  are you   and instead of telling somebody about their class, maybe first of all you should appeal to yourself.....

I don't have to know you, anyone can easily surmise your insecurities from what you wrote,
"the old man with a sharp tongue"
KenC

[sunandsail]

Did someone miss taking their medication?