spies are at work again

[LEGAL]

Son of Clyde,

I agree with what was written previously. You should talk about this situation with your wife and  it would be better if your wife will read what you have written on this forum. Ask her what is more important for her - happiness of family or words of a hypocritical so called "friend" who tries to destroy her family happiness.

Olga

[Makkin]

Hello SOC,

  We come here and we post ideas and feelings about issues and topics and we have fun at times and we argue regularly. What seems to happen in the long run is many people stay and contibute and read the boards with interest and we are members as well as friends. It seems to me that it gets to a point where we come and look at the boards at regular times and it becomes a habit or routine as we are creatures of habit.
  I know I'm not writing anything new here but we are habit bound to come here and learn as well as make jokes and laugh and do things we are in the habit of doing. Seems like it's that way to me because this place grows on sincere people with genuine interest.
  Are you communicating to your girl that your habits of visiting this wonderful web site are not as serious as the spies want her to believe? Are you making the effort to let her know you have friends here and you like to come here and talk with your friends?
  I feel that if you let her see why you are coming here and what your history here is and then she will easily understand that you are a member of a club of friends and that you enjoy exchanging ideas and the progress made in learning things here. Your ability to teach here on topics helps us all too.
 
  Tell your girl to come and look and see what you are doing and try to explain to her that this web site is a great place for you to explain to,teach,and acknowledge your friends. She WILL understand that it's a place most of visit in the hopes that we can become familiar and regular with the people who feel the same way we do in many many areas of this pursuit.

 Just my thoughts that may seem mundane and of basic common sense orientation as to why we come here. We come out of interest which becomes habit of learning and socializing. In my mind this web site is a very valuable place and is good to be a part of.

  Makkin

 

[Jet]

but nonetheless if her friends have something to say about their disapproval, speak directly to both SOC and his wife.     

:noidea: Seems like that exactly what they've been doing, at least with his wife, who in turn speaks directly with Clyde  .

I'm guessing that Clyde does not limit his wife's destinations or time spent on the internet, so I'm wondering why she would do so to him. I'm also having some difficulty with why "the spies" would have any outrage at all over anything he's posted here. I met the internet persona "Son Of Clyde" a long time ago under a different username, on a different message forum. I've followed his posts for years and still haven't been able to glean enough information to be able to connect the persona to a real person if I wanted or needed to chase him down "in the flesh" without his prior knowledge and help. The number of middle aged guys named Larry who work for some department within the Federal Gov't, and rent in the DC-Baltimore metropolitan area has to be well into the thousands. Even with the info we have been provided SOC is a fairly anonymous individual. So why all the outrage from the spies and the wife? ???

[catzenmouse]

 Often, for me anyway, this is a great and easy place to keep in touch with people I know (some physically and some virtually) without having to send off a dozen different e-mails or make a dozen different phone calls. I can check in see what's up, read a bit, post a bit, and get back to other things for awhile then check in again later.

 Posting here shouldn't be anything to hide from or be ashamed of and, in my opinion, SoC's posts are very tame as far as posts are concerned. Anyone (that meaning the spy or spies, yes YOU) who takes this route to go behind someones back and interfere in their marriage is lower than worm feces. A Jshopa is all you are.

 Unfortunately, there are way too many people who cannot pay attention to their own life so they simply MUST stick their faces into the lives of others.

Ken

[Daveman]

   Lordy, I hope they read Scott's post very carefully and repeatedly. They'd be
toast in this household as well.

   Exactly the kind of behavior that screams red flag to me - newbies take note.

Jeeeeeeeeeezus.... I didn't even think about that....   absolutely it does.

[wiz]

Son of Clyde,

I agree with what was written previously. You should talk about this situation with your wife and  it would be better if your wife will read what you have written on this forum. Ask her what is more important for her - happiness of family or words of a hypocritical so called "friend" who tries to destroy her family happiness.

Olga

Agree Olga

It was the cousin who started reading the "The Dilemma" on the board and reported back to Sofia in unfavoured terms to discredit me.

Everything I wrote in my post "The Dilemma" was very bad criticism for Sofia because it was my intention to humiliate her, but when I made my other trip reports before I met her there were excellent comments about the other women. Now I have been named as a "Sex tourist" reporter!

[Son of Clyde]

My post regarding my wife's friend was seen as a put down and an insult to her friend. RW band together and when they see a negative situation call a "heads up." This is how I perceive the situation. Larry made a less than flattering post because he was honest. I am out of the matchmaking business from now on.

[jb]

Clyde,

Don't you have "Caller ID" on that phone?  If not, get it ASAP so you can track who the hell is calling your wife.  Either that, or grow a set and stand up for yourself.  Crikers~! this is about the 3rd or 4th time you come to the board crying about how poor and abused you are, and you can't post because your wife doesn't understand why you need a support group.

You wanna know something, Clyde?  No man needs to live with that much nylon around his neck, getting rid of a nagging woman is not the worst thing that can happen to a man.   

[Jet]

My post regarding my wife's friend was seen as a put down and an insult to her friend. 

Then somebody needs to spend a lot more time on English lessons and a lot less time on the damn phone!

Liliya's friend Irena has a big @ss, it's not a put-down it's a fact of life. She used to be smokin' hot and now she's older and she's not anymore, life goes on and nobody is getting their panties in a twist over it  . Good thing Lil and Irena don't have "friends" like your wife has Clyde.

[Daveman]

My post regarding my wife's friend was seen as a put down and an insult to her friend.

Holy freakin' hell, Larry... all her friends put YOU down to your wife and she says nothing to them to stop it, and in fact joins in the mischief .. but some post trying to help her friend is seen as a put down and she gives YOU crap about it??

Only you know the entire situation, but damn...  this doesn't sound healthy.

[BC]

Then somebody needs to spend a lot more time on English lessons and a lot less time on the damn phone!

Yes, it does sound like good communication is an issue.  SOC reverting to the forum, his wife reverting to phone, neither understanding what's really happening on the other side and just raising the volume.

Not a pretty picture.

[Son of Clyde]

Guys, you are only second guessing what is really happening. We have discussed this issue at great length and I am not at liberty to divulge every discussion we have about the spy issue. There is more going on behind the scenes regarding this issue.

[Son of Clyde]

Gator, my scrotum is well puffed, believe me.

[Jumper]

SOC-
you posted trying to get helpful info or ideas,

 to help your WIFE, get her friend a foriegn man, and preferably one close to where you live.

The brutal honesty was that there wasnt much helpful advice to give,,
given her situation?
as the friend in question has no english, is older ,
and hasnt set the wheels in motion herself to aid in the poor statistical odds of finding a foriegn man in your wifes local..
or current home country,
by  learning even *some* english
(the very first step to improve her chances right?)


Some RW got all bent up and upset in the original thread of the shallow unfairness of the REALITY of her current odds.

Now someone has reported to your wife that thread as disparging to her friend.

It turned into a thread whining about human shallowness,and the unfairness of life everywhere.



Sack up and tell ALL of them to grow up a bit, face the realities
of life with some maturity ,and let go of the childish high schoolish drama.

when they can face the reality and look for positive and productive ways to improve your wifes friends chances  practically,
THAT will be of some benefit to the situation.

Ultimately the woman in question has poor odds in her home country, much less in a foriegn land that she hasnt worked at improving her odds at ,yet.

thats the reality.
The truth hurts

people often get upset at it..
but it doesnt change it..

while i agree that it isnt fair, it stinks ,
lifes situations often do!!
but complaining about it doesn't help thier friend , nor does whispers to your wife about your posting here.


Advising their friend to learn some english, (or another language)
will improve her odds.
there are other things to do as well..
in fact these sharp RW including your wife,
know many positive things thier friend can do , i am sure.

Tell them to use thier time more effieciently..than worrying about your posts on a net bulleton board..

"he said , she said " drama should be left to teenagers..

the very fact you posted the situation  here, at a board where foriegn men look for information about RW,
improved this "friends" chances!
not a lot,,but likely more than anything else that has been done so far, by the babushka network, or by herself.

again the truth may hurt, but it is the likely reality.

Tell them all to face it ,and to stop hanging from your eggs..  

if you have already done so , as implied,
then no need for you to stop  posting your thoughts on any subject here! or the psuedo swan song that started this thread.

[Muj]

On a liter note some of you know Olga and I have a nice 5 acre oak studded farm here in Florida and my sisters one hundred acres buts up against ours.  Today I come home to find Olga chasing two bulls and 12 cows that broke through our fence with a 8 foot horse whip with nothing on but her underpants. This truly was a video moment. I only wish I had my video camera at the time. This truly was a site to see.  I will not get Olga mad she now will just go to the barn and get the horse whip mmm could be fun.   I wonder if she will where those six inch spiked heels of hers.


LEGAL

You GO Girl!

[Muj]

SOC,

I guess the RW you mention needs no advice or even respects advice from us.  So maybe only offer postive agreement to someone depressed.

[WmGO]

It is because of these kinds of problems that I have always recommended:

1. Don't tell girlfriend or wife about these kinds of internet forums.

2. The wife needs to make indigenous friends, not FSU friends. There is just too much jealously and backbiting in the FSUW abroad community to be worth the risk.

Just my opinion..........

[Rvrwind]

2. The wife needs to make indigenous friends, not FSU friends. There is just too much jealously and backbiting in the FSUW abroad community to be worth the risk.

Believe me WimGo there is enough of it in Russia too!!

[BillyB]

my scrotum is well puffed, believe me.

I hope it wasn't because someone kicked you in the balls. Clyde, a few people who know you have told me good things about your wife and your marriage. This is what your friends talk about behind your back. It's unfortunate that your wife's friend(spy) only opens her mouth to speak of bad things. I hope your wife trust you enough to give you the name of that spy.

[groovlstk]

2. The wife needs to make indigenous friends, not FSU friends. There is just too much jealously and backbiting in the FSUW abroad community to be worth the risk.

Just my opinion..........

My wife would agree 100% with this. Since her arrival she's befriended Polish, Iranian, African, Brazilian, and other immigrants from her English classes (as well as American women) but has been completely turned off by the Russian and Ukrainian women she's met in NYC. Every single one has immediately revealed her agenda by asking probing questions about her home, my job, what kind of car she drives, etc. I give my wife a lot of credit for immediately tagging such bozos and giving them the heave ho.

[Son of Clyde]

BillyB, yes she is a good woman and she loves me but unfortunately she also listens to the gossip.

[Son of Clyde]

Dan can you lock this thread?
I think it has served its purpose.
Thank you.