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[Jazzyclassy]

well even I agree with JB and Ken C and others

I think DKMM is rushing a bit with her well I do not want to tell anything bad but ...........

He is a very  nice guy:) very positive and cool and well her I do not know she is a "dark horse" , you do not know where are you with her

I am telling this cos  I met them both in reality , I did not like her too much , not cos she is a woman and I am a woman ( I love my boyfriend so I do not have any intentions for other men) just cos she was not sincere and opened , that is not my type of friends really, I would never be her friend in reality and would never even come across her in my life

but I wish DKMM all the best cos he is very genuine lovely guy he deserves to be happy and if he is happy with this woman , why not.... obviously they need time to proceed with their relations of course, I think he is rushing, but at the same time I understand as he wants a family and a nice wife beside him, so it is just we never know what happens, he should go with the flow
, but be very very very careful with her, plus he does not know her enough to do such things like presenting her expensive gifts

[Sohkay]

Before too many more people start getting their underpants in a wad over this detail, please re-read what DK wrote.

"btw i'm bringing a ring just in case, but I'm not planning on using it.  I think the best way to go is to use a fake rock and tell her she gets the real one when she gets here; so she can choose the type of rock of course and also not change her mind and walk off with a 5k diamond."

If they love each other, it should be no problem. Furthermore, if she pitches a hissyfit about it, it's a good character test that she may be more interested in jewelry than him.

Some of you guys should be a little more careful with the advice you give.

BTW, where's Gator? Russia?

[jb]

Sohkay,

In light of the recommendation given by JC, I'd say DKMM has some more work to do.   

[Sohkay]

jb,
Agreed.

[Mir]

JC has given a thumbs down so he should run.

[groovlstk]

Furthermore, if she pitches a hissyfit about it, it's a good character test that she may be more interested in jewelry than him.

Some of you guys should be a little more careful with the advice you give.

Why does a guy need to use fake diamond rings or carnival tricks to test a girl's character?

Honestly, some of the "strategies" is see here that are meant to smoke out scammers or insincere girls have all the logic of a Rube Goldberg device.

Get to know the person you intend to marry, there are no shortcuts...

[Jazzyclassy]

JC has given a thumbs down so he should run.

well not really Mir I did not give any thumbs down , it is just I did not like her personally ,Oh well there are many people who do not like me so we can not be liked by everybody , cos it is enormous World full of so many different people, just her emotions are not going one way with mine,but that does not mean she  does not suite DKMM , I think they are quite compatible but at the same time I know they need to know each other much more to talk about marriage and stuff

just she is not simple lets say it straight , that what made me uncomfortable during the meeting with them , he was perfectly cool nice down to earth  lovely guy really
she was very like careful herself , never talked about herself ..... but that is again my subjective point of view, she was some kinda proud of herself or something , maybe it's me being with low self esteem I do not know really what it is , these were my impressions about her- doubtful , uncomfortable and hidden

I am sure if they are patient with knowing each other more, they could be a nice couple , let's just hope am mistaken about her...

[Daveman]

Isn't he back at home now anyway?  He might perhaps be in a bit of the infatuation stage with this one girl, don't know for sure, but as cool and level headed as he's been thus far on this trip, I think he'll continue this same level of prudent thought prior to making any monumental, life altering decisions.

I certainly understand the reasoning behind the 'fake' ring.  Probably not an approach I would take but I do get it.

Good luck with it DKMM.. I hope this one turns out to be a dream come true for you.

Dave

[jakeob]

Dkmm

Just read your TR and thought it was just great,,Dude if you want to take a fake ring with you,, "Just in case" Then do it. I dont see it a as big problem to a smart guy like you. You can make up some story that your saving for an expensive ring for her but just wanted to show her how you feel right now blah blah,,, Reading your trip report, i am sure you know how to handle it,

Ps i am going to Tver 2 weeks tomorrow myself, hope i have half the luck you had.

neil

[Kuna]

I think we should all be very careful when giving opinions on other people's partners.  The fact that JC said she didn't really like DKMM's girl only means that JC shouldn't pursue a relationship with her.

The only thing that matters is how DKMM and his girl feel about each other and that they've let those feelings develop in "as natural as possible" way - considering distance etc.

I understand DKMM's concept on the fake ring because I've battled with the same concept.  Should he go and buy "the real deal" and risk giving her something she doesn't adore or should he give her something to wear and then let her choose the ring of her dreams when it's possible?

I haven't decided what I'm going to do but I'm leaning towards "no ring" until we can shop for it together.  

Kuna

[groovlstk]

You can make up some story that your saving for an expensive ring for her but just wanted to show her how you feel right now blah blah,,,

Some of you guys crack me up. God forbid some agency babe wraps you around her pinky and works you for a trip to Hurghada, after which you find out she has a local boyfriend or three on the side and then come running here crying to have her added to the Scammer section. Yet you have no problem lying or advocating lying to the same women, among whom you hope to meet someone honest and pure.

[BillyB]

Well DKMM, if you went WOVO on this trip, who would you end up with? S, who admitted to being a former gold digger that is capable of calling you 70 times in a matter of hours and is willing to drop all her future dates with guys if you propose or someone else such as E? I don't think S is too smart. Sure she has lots of friends at clubs and she trained herself well in gold digging older men, but she has little skills a decent man want.

As for a ring, here's what you guys should do if you feel compelled to get one and learn something about your woman. During your visit, tell your gal you want to get her a ring to symbolize your commitment together, take her shopping and let her choose any ring she wants. My fiancee chose a gold ring with a cubic sirconia that costed me $42. Since she's a modest person and I trust her with money based on her behavior, I did leave her $1000 after my second visit for her to use for emergencies or whatever she needs. She has not spent any of it and was able to purchase her airline tickets to Moscow on a previous trip to meet me and now to St.Pete. She's such a responsible person with money, I'll let her run our finances.

[catzenmouse]

Some of you guys crack me up. God forbid some agency babe wraps you around her pinky and works you for a trip to Hurghada, after which you find out she has a local boyfriend or three on the side and then come running here crying to have her added to the Scammer section. Yet you have no problem lying or advocating lying to the same women, among whom you hope to meet someone honest and pure.

It surely does boggle the mind doesn't it. To think that this mentality is acceptable while you expect her to be pure as the driven snow really shows that though the synapses are firing they sure aren't firing in the same direction.

[START2]

You can make up some story that your saving for an expensive ring for her but just wanted to show her how you feel right now
 

Now that's a helluva way to start a relationship. You'll need all the luck you can muster fella.

[Jazzyclassy]

I think we should all be very careful when giving opinions on other people's partners.  The fact that JC said she didn't really like DKMM's girl only means that JC shouldn't pursue a relationship with her.

The only thing that matters is how DKMM and his girl feel about each other and that they've let those feelings develop in "as natural as possible" way - considering distance etc.

I understand DKMM's concept on the fake ring because I've battled with the same concept.  Should he go and buy "the real deal" and risk giving her something she doesn't adore or should he give her something to wear and then let her choose the ring of her dreams when it's possible?

I haven't decided what I'm going to do but I'm leaning towards "no ring" until we can shop for it together.  

Kuna

I should have missed this comment  and I will miss it:)

I fully support this point of view ,

Some of you guys crack me up. God forbid some agency babe wraps you around her pinky and works you for a trip to Hurghada, after which you find out she has a local boyfriend or three on the side and then come running here crying to have her added to the Scammer section. Yet you have no problem lying or advocating lying to the same women, among whom you hope to meet someone honest and pure.

[Kuna]

Jazzy...some things are best left unsaid!

[Jazzyclassy]

Jazzy...some things are best left unsaid!

 I regret I ever post anything here in this thread , deleting my opinion here

[Jazzyclassy]

What I wanted to say is  that DKMM is a cool nice friendly person  and his girl is just a little reserved or how to say different, but that does not mean they do not suit each other . They do , it is just they need time to know each other and grow a little bit together before marriage , of  course nobody is telling them to wait like 5 years or something, but at least they should not marry after 4 days of knowing each other ! that was my opinion and not what  Kuna was trying to label on me!!! I do not criticize anyone once again I repeat !!!

[Mir]

JC

There is nothing wrong with giving your honest openion

[wiz]

I do not criticize anyone once again I repeat !!!

Oh yes you do.....LOL

You cannot escape the fact that you are a woman.......and women always critisise each other! It is natural despite you had No interest on DKMM. She would not open to you because you were not her friend or you knew her for a long time!

Regards from a sunny....place somewhere. LOL
Wiz

[Jazzyclassy]

Oh yes you do.....LOL

You cannot escape the fact that you are a woman.......and women always critisise each other! It is natural despite you had No interest on DKMM. She would not open to you because you were not her friend or you knew her for a long time!

Regards from a sunny....place somewhere. LOL
Wiz

hey Wizzushka:)

how you doing there in a sunny place, I bet having a great time

Yes am a woman and not a man I have my own personal opinion  about people I have my right

[DKMM]

Hello all!  

Well I'm glad to give you all something to think about, I seem to have a knack for doing that with my TR's.  

No before anybody gets any more worked up, I really dont' know how to respond to the many different angles on here but I'll do my best.

1.  Why am I thinking of an engagement ring already?  Because I'm sure after all my looking that I've found the one girl that understands me, somehow still likes me and is everything ELSE that I've been looking for too.  Now, assuming I know who and who I don't want to pursue, why the ring?  Well I already said it, if I decide to get engaged, I want to have one.  If I want to marry her, I sure as hell don't want to put it off.  I will be very busy for a while and probably can't get married for 12 more months if I don't get engaged on this trip (so we can marry this fall).  That's life.  No I'm not in a rush to get married before I turn 30 in December, its more like I can't stand living without her here.  She's ready too, although not pushing it at all.  This isn't something I would do at the beginning of our trip, but more near the end and again its less than a 50/50 chance at this point.  btw I'm leaving in 4 weeks and we have 12 days together.

2.  Why the "fake" ring?  This is something I would do with any girl, because A) I want to surprise her and not go ring shopping and B) I want my girl to pick her cut and setting.  I'm getting her a "real" setting but with a zircon the same size as the diamond I would get her later on.  All of my female friends have advised me its okay (save one) as long as I explain all this to her.  If I know E, she will think its just dandy this way.  Also, I am going to spend 12 days in the 3rd world DR, and I don't feel safe lugging around a $5000 ring that I MIGHT use.  I appreciate the comments though because I'm still thinking of just getting a real rock in a standard solitaire setting...and if RW have an aversion to this maybe I will drop the CZ idea.  Can you guys ask your ladies for more opinions?  

3.  I don't see any reason for this discussion to descend into JC's feelings for my E.  Girls have all sorts of reasons for not liking a girlfriend of a guy they know and I don't care to unravel them, especially on here.  I'm not offended either, I just don't see any reason to continue on that subject.  Yes she is "proud of herself" because shes a damn fine woman.  

I certainly will not lie to her about anything I'm doing.  The only thing I can think of that I'm hiding from her is that I'm posting on RWD.

Good luck in Tver Neil, but I found my girl in Moscow.  If I have to find another, I'd stick with Moscow or St. Petersburg as that is where the best educated ladies are.  My E is a world class lady with zero incentive to leave Russia unless she was totally in love and believed in her man.  However, Tver girls are pretty good in their own right and certainly more motivated.

[I/O]

Some bizzare reasoning happening here. :noidea: :noidea:

I/O

[Mir]

No I'm not in a rush to get married before I turn 30 in December,

You are 29!! Somehow I thought you were younger, much younger

[DKMM]

Its not exactly easy to explain everything that's been going on in a few paragraphs on here.  I tried but I see its obviously not working for some of you, which makes sense because you dont know me or E.  If the people that actually know me said these sorts of things I guess I'd be more worried.

And how old are you Mir?  Mad that I'm taking the best 27 y.o. in Russia?  Don't worry there are plenty more, but you should probably stick to more provincial areas.